David Møller Wolfe

Boukari was good - but a bad signing from a medical point of view. I'm sure his injury record before signing for us was already poor.

Overall, though, Solbakken has to be one of our worst managers in the past 30 years. Some of the football he oversaw was painfully boring - the Ipswich home match over the Christmas period was particularly appalling. No shots on goal. Players barely ventured outside our own half.

Even the clueless Dean Saunders had us playing better football than Solbakken did - and he was fielding dross like Cassidy up front.

The difference was that Saunders spoke like a complete buffoon and took most of the flak for that relegation season, while Solbakken got away with it because he spoke well and came across as intelligent.

In reality, Solbakken was a Norwegian Glenn Hoddle.
I recall the Ipswich game. Many of our players just sauntered around and didn't break sweat.
 
I still talk about that Ipswich game now , to some fans who have no clue because they wasn't there and some who was there who are just a bit thick.

I remember that game so well , I felt like we was gonna loose.

the feeling before the game, the cold and wet , the air

the cloud / smog on the pitch, it was like there was toxic atmosphere in the air

some will read this and go he's ****ed wa he on about

some will read it and know exactly what I'm saying

That was the game Henry and Foley were laughing on the pitch at mistakes they were making. Regardless of if he was a good or bad manager, the disrespect a lot of that squad showed to Solbakken was disgusting, and i got that directly from a former striker of ours we signed from Reading.
 
TBF Solbakken has proved he is a good manager. He was just absolutely the wrong choice for us at that point in time. He'd have done fine with the players of higher technical quality we've had since we got promoted. Better than Lage and GON, I think, with the same squads. Better than VP too. Though not as good as Nuno or Lopetegui. Maybe ironic that a player like Andre, whose never seemed that happy here, would have like to play under a more technically sophisticated manager like Solbakken, compared to Karl Henry who seemed to resent the guys existence on earth.
 
That was the game Henry and Foley were laughing on the pitch at mistakes they were making. Regardless of if he was a good or bad manager, the disrespect a lot of that squad showed to Solbakken was disgusting, and i got that directly from a former striker of ours we signed from Reading.

Interesting. Seems a fab guy from what I’ve seen of his commentating too. I’d rate Doyle as being right up there too in our recent years, aside from obvious Ruben, Raul and Diogo.
 
I just recall reports that he didn't like the way Solbakken was asking us to set up, so recruited some colleagues to argue the toss and refuse to play that way. Who was involved (apart from KH) I don't know.

Stephen Ward
 
Interesting. Seems a fab guy from what I’ve seen of his commentating too. I’d rate Doyle as being right up there too in our recent years, aside from obvious Ruben, Raul and Diogo.

Yeah Doyle was not happy with several players at the time and hinted at a few being out of line, I forget where he said it but one interview made it quite obvious who they were.

Doyle was a classy player, in a better side he wouldn't have been out of place.
 
Yeah Doyle was not happy with several players at the time and hinted at a few being out of line, I forget where he said it but one interview made it quite obvious who they were.

Doyle was a classy player, in a better side he wouldn't have been out of place.
He was class in his first couple of seasons.

By the end though, he was part of the problem - lazy, spent more time falling on his **** than staying on his feet, and couldn't hit a cows **** with a banjo. The opposition could have played without fielding goalkeepers - and he'd have still somehow put it wide or hoofed it onto the stadium roof.

That whole team was completely dislikable - and that relegation to league one was a blessing in disguise. It gave us the opportunity to start afresh with a huge clear out.

If Saunders had kept us up (which was looking possible until Ebanks-Blake got injured), the following season would have started off with many of the same toxic players.
 
That was the game Henry and Foley were laughing on the pitch at mistakes they were making. Regardless of if he was a good or bad manager, the disrespect a lot of that squad showed to Solbakken was disgusting, and i got that directly from a former striker of ours we signed from Reading.
It was made worse by the fact that Ipswich were managed by Mick who had received a rousing reception from Wolves fans.
 
Yeah the players completely gave up in those games over Xmas against Ipswich and Peterborough, you can hate on Solbakken all you want but no manager can work with a squad that toxic, absolutely disgusting performances, I've hated where I work loads of times but personal pride means I always do my best, those players though, I've no time most of that squad
 
Yeah the players completely gave up in those games over Xmas against Ipswich and Peterborough, you can hate on Solbakken all you want but no manager can work with a squad that toxic, absolutely disgusting performances, I've hated where I work loads of times but personal pride means I always do my best, those players though, I've no time most of that squad
Dean Saunders did though - and he was a moron.

Every week, Solbakken talked the talk and said "I need to make changes" - only to play the same side and formation after saying changes were coming.
 
He was class in his first couple of seasons.

By the end though, he was part of the problem - lazy, spent more time falling on his **** than staying on his feet, and couldn't hit a cows **** with a banjo. The opposition could have played without fielding goalkeepers - and he'd have still somehow put it wide or hoofed it onto the stadium roof.
To be fair, Doyle had a debilitating head injury that ended his career shortly afterwards, you’d probably need to take that into account for that season…
 
He was class in his first couple of seasons.

By the end though, he was part of the problem - lazy, spent more time falling on his **** than staying on his feet, and couldn't hit a cows **** with a banjo. The opposition could have played without fielding goalkeepers - and he'd have still somehow put it wide or hoofed it onto the stadium roof.

That whole team was completely dislikable - and that relegation to league one was a blessing in disguise. It gave us the opportunity to start afresh with a huge clear out.

If Saunders had kept us up (which was looking possible until Ebanks-Blake got injured), the following season would have started off with many of the same toxic players.
I am not sure it’s fair to say he was lazy, istr he had a long term back injury but was still played as a lone striker.
 
Yeah the players completely gave up in those games over Xmas against Ipswich and Peterborough, you can hate on Solbakken all you want but no manager can work with a squad that toxic, absolutely disgusting performances, I've hated where I work loads of times but personal pride means I always do my best, those players though, I've no time most of that squad
Yeah I remember them well that Blackpool game too (home one) I think we won the away one somehow

Literally threw a decent manager under the bus
 
Johnson,Henry,Ward and Doyle all admitted not giving 100% for SS
They were a disgrace and treated as such the next season
At least Doyle admitted he was wrong unlike the others
Saying SS was the worse manager ever is way off the mark
Just wrong place wrong time wrong players
 
If Wolfe can continue to avoid actually playing, he will become world class in a couple of months.
The longer he stays out of the side, the better he will be. That's the same for all of our players. ;) Fosun probably realise this with their player trading and it's only the existence of fixtures that has prevented them from recouping millions more. SHi's 9/10 transfer window will yield a gross profit for Fosum, due to none to the signings actually playing any football. :p
 
Solbakken was a manager I didn't take to and his signings including Sigurdarson, Nouble, Margreitter, Doumbia, Peszko and Pennant (loan?) weren't great. Certainly not a 9/10 transfer window that we've become accustomed to under Fosun. :p. Boukari came with a decent rep, but suffered through injuries. Stale has got tunes from other sides including international sides, but he never gelled at Molineux; the graveyard of coaches reputations!
 
Solbakken was a manager I didn't take to and his signings including Sigurdarson, Nouble, Margreitter, Doumbia, Peszko and Pennant (loan?) weren't great. Certainly not a 9/10 transfer window that we've become accustomed to under Fosun. :p. Boukari came with a decent rep, but suffered through injuries. Stale has got tunes from other sides including international sides, but he never gelled at Molineux; the graveyard of coaches reputations!

We always seem all over the place when it comes to how the club is organised, I'm not defending Solbakken but we didn't feel set up for success and you hear rumours that most of the signings were Moxeys not his, the one time I felt we were fully aligned was when Nuno came in and Mendes was pretty much in control and they were in step together, it felt like everyone was pulling in the same direction, we never usually set up well enough for a manager to succeed

I'm not explaining this very well but we flip flop from one plan to another, succession planning is none existent and this makes it hard for any manager/coach coming in, we just never feel aligned from top to bottom
 
That was the game Henry and Foley were laughing on the pitch at mistakes they were making. Regardless of if he was a good or bad manager, the disrespect a lot of that squad showed to Solbakken was disgusting, and i got that directly from a former striker of ours we signed from Reading.
The one I never understood was how it was widely accepted that Foley was one of the key figures in undermining Solbakken, and then he went to Copenhagen?
 
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He got an assist for one of the best strikers in history against a lg1 standard international opposition don't you know, means he'll tear it up

(For what it's worth, I think we should play him)
 
The one I never understood was how it was widely accepted that Foley was one of the key figures in undermining Solbakken, and then he went to Copenhagen?

Probably because of his attitude in that Ipswich game. Who knows what went on behind the scenes, but in that game it was all there in public view. Mind you, Foley only played 4 games in 6 months for Copenhagen, maybe Solbakken was just getting a bit of revenge :laughing:
 
2 goals and 1 assist in just 240 minutes of football so far this season…what more can the guy do? Plus he’s regularly playing and assisting in a very good Norway side. Has to be first choice now surely?…
 
To be fair, Doyle had a debilitating head injury that ended his career shortly afterwards, you’d probably need to take that into account for that season…
It wasn't just that season.

He was with us for 6 years - and only the first two seasons were stand-out really.
 
The longer he stays out of the side, the better he will be. That's the same for all of our players. ;) Fosun probably realise this with their player trading and it's only the existence of fixtures that has prevented them from recouping millions more. SHi's 9/10 transfer window will yield a gross profit for Fosum, due to none to the signings actually playing any football. :p
A lot of Wolves' ills can be put down to the existence of fixtures.
 
He was class in his first couple of seasons.

By the end though, he was part of the problem - lazy, spent more time falling on his **** than staying on his feet, and couldn't hit a cows **** with a banjo. The opposition could have played without fielding goalkeepers - and he'd have still somehow put it wide or hoofed it onto the stadium roof.

That whole team was completely dislikable - and that relegation to league one was a blessing in disguise. It gave us the opportunity to start afresh with a huge clear out.

If Saunders had kept us up (which was looking possible until Ebanks-Blake got injured), the following season would have started off with many of the same toxic players.
Just seen this. Regarding your 2nd sentence, 3rd paragraph I wonder as you wrote that you had this season in mind by any chance? I'd like to stay up of course but the club is just so toxic throughout now imo, in the medium term it might just be better to go down, clear out, re-set (new owners?) and start afresh? Echoes of the past.
 
Just seen this. Regarding your 2nd sentence, 3rd paragraph I wonder as you wrote that you had this season in mind by any chance? I'd like to stay up of course but the club is just so toxic throughout now imo, in the medium term it might just be better to go down, clear out, re-set (new owners?) and start afresh? Echoes of the past.
I did think that the current squad is dislikable - but im not sure its as toxic as that season.

If this team does go down (highly likely), do we trust Fosun would actually rebuild the team? They appear to have given up and I dont think theyd back ANY manager financially to get out of the league like they did Nuno. I suspect they'd go for bargain basement signings similar to the Morgan/Money era.

I agree that we need a 'reset' if we go down - but I dont trust Fosun enough to do it. I think we peaked under Fosun's ownership 5 years ago - and now we're going back to the treading water days of just doing enough to get by.
 
I did think that the current squad is dislikable - but im not sure its as toxic as that season.

If this team does go down (highly likely), do we trust Fosun would actually rebuild the team? They appear to have given up and I dont think theyd back ANY manager financially to get out of the league like they did Nuno. I suspect they'd go for bargain basement signings similar to the Morgan/Money era.

I agree that we need a 'reset' if we go down - but I dont trust Fosun enough to do it. I think we peaked under Fosun's ownership 5 years ago - and now we're going back to the treading water days of just doing enough to get by.
Like so many posts on here yours leads me again to ask why are Fosun hanging on to us? None of us have come up with any decent answer to that question but until they/Shi speak out we live in darkness.
 
Like so many posts on here yours leads me again to ask why are Fosun hanging on to us? None of us have come up with any decent answer to that question but until they/Shi speak out we live in darkness.
I wish I knew. Maybe they're over-confident or arrogant enough to think that the past few seasons have just been down to bad luck and they think our level is the Nuno era?

After all, Jeff seemed to think he could pitch season ticket prices against top half teams, and he also seems to believe the summer transfer window was a 9/10 window.

Fosun, or Jeff in particular, seem deluded enough to believe that they/he is doing a good job.
 
DMW’s performance against chelsea showed that he can be a threat going forwards. in the current squad that should be enough to guarantee he starts every week with Krejci. So we just need to sort the other 9 positions out now.
 
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