Chinese owners - Russian fall out

[WeAreTheWolvesII]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1499709058290528259

This is not good for us (just from a football perspective, I know there are more important things this has implications for as well)

 

[JohnB]

Firstly can I say how concerned I am for Ukraine citizens and I cannot imagine the pain, suffering and worry they are going through.

In light of this any debate about Wolves and our future feels somewhat like a misguided thought piece.

With the Russian oligarchs exiting UK clubs and with China’s ties with Russia plus not showing PL games this weekend (given our support of Ukraine) I can easily conceive a situation where Chinese owners are in the near future leaving English football clubs. Various reasons this may happen but more likely a direction from China than an English ban on Chinese ownership per se.

I hope I’m wrong and a resolution can be found to the Ukraine/Russia crisis (potentially by China brokering a cease fire deal).

If things do move on then whoever comes in could be positive or negative for Wolves. We have no idea and no point in speculating (we can each point to other PL clubs as examples of positive or negative owners).

What I would say is that this may be the start of the next story for Wolves. If it is we should all get fully behind Wolves over the next games and enjoy the present and what we have. Day by day who knows what the future holds.

In the meantime my thoughts and prayers are with all of those caught and touched by the Ukraine/Russia crisis and I hope a peaceful solution can be found soon.

UTW.

 

[Wonder Boyo]

As the issue seems to be that Chinese broadcasters don't want to show the Premier League support for Ukraine, it'll be interesting to see if Wolves show any official support pre-match. If we shy away from showing any official support because we are owned by a Chinese company I'd be pretty ****ed off.

Like others have written, I think this war could be the beginning of the end for Fosun and Wolves. It'll be interesting to see how the club react this weekend.

 

[Wolf316]

I imagine Fosun will stop us showing any support like shirt messages.

They’d better bloody not.

 

[Mutchy]

Well it wouldn't be a surprise, I suppose they'll pretend there wasn't going to be anything anyway.

Why not wait and see what actually happens before condemning them?

 

[WalsallWolf]

Does have quite an uncomfortable feel to it at the moment, but guess we will have to wait and see how all pans out. More important things at stake here than football.

 

[Wolvessince63]

The 20 club captains will wear special armbands in Ukrainian colours and fans are encouraged to join players, managers, match officials and club staff in a moment of reflection and solidarity before kick-off at each game,”

 

[Wednesbury Wolf]

I see all the England players in the next few days are going to announce whether they're going to Quatar or not.

 

[Titch]

I imagine Fosun will stop us showing any support like shirt messages.

Edit: deleted as a sensitive subject.

 

[Deleted member (smith)]

Under the guidance of Fosun wolves have moved from mid table championship side to top 10 premiership side. They have also written off their advances ( ie capitalized debt) and said wolves must be self sufficient.

being self sufficient ie not dependent on owners for funding is obviously a very good thing if we are worried about the long term commitment of the owners

 

[Titch]

Where’s this come from?

From someone I know, delete if you don't think its right me posting it?

 

[SA Wolf]

If Fosun is anti free speech and free expression, they shouldn't have bought a football club in England. Wolves, as well as the Premier League should give as much support to Ukraine as they can and if China and Fosun don't like it, then tough.
I've always felt uncomfortable with Chinese owners and this just reinforces that feeling.

 

[Wolvessince63]

From someone I know, delete if you don't think its right me posting it?

Allegedly you win a medal for the biggest pile of **** posted this week

 

[sc91]

As the issue seems to be that Chinese broadcasters don't want to show the Premier League support for Ukraine, it'll be interesting to see if Wolves show any official support pre-match. If we shy away from showing any official support because we are owned by a Chinese company I'd be pretty ****ed off.

Like others have written, I think this war could be the beginning of the end for Fosun and Wolves. It'll be interesting to see how the club react this weekend.

If we show nothing at all pre-game I'd be disgusted. Especially as we have a player in our ranks who has Ukrainian parentage and I would imagine like most major cities have a decent population of Ukrainian people who call the Midlands home.

 

[Munro Munro]

Wolves have already worn no war printed shirts pre match

 

[SuperGran]

Wolves have already worn no war printed shirts pre match

Yes they did

 

[clivewolves]

There's nothing to worry about until there is something to worry about, so don't worry about it.

 

[Bill S Preston Esq.]

They’d better bloody not.

Every fan should tie a yellow band around an arm. That's my opinion.

 

[Timberwolf]

There's nothing to worry about until there is something to worry about, so don't worry about it.

But that worries me…!

 

[Sussex Wolf]

They’d better bloody not.

We already did in the last game did we not?

 

[Deleted member 7862Bler]

We already did in the last game did we not?

They wore “no to war” T shirts.
Would be nice if they could specifically state “we stand with Ukraine”

 

[Wolf316]

They wore “no to war” T shirts.
Would be nice if they could specifically state “we stand with Ukraine”

Was going to say exactly the same.

 

[northnorfolkwolf]

China and Russia have a recently negotiated 'friendship' arrangement. One of the ways out of this is if China puts pressure on Putin to back off; China are most probably the only country that Putin may listen to. We need something to happen soon as Ukraine will be wiped off the face of the earth, like Grozny. Football is important but nowhere near as important as what is happening in Eastern Europe.

 

[Banks's Mild]

We all need to show our support for Ukraine and for me that includes the club, and what's happening over there is far more important than football, but to judge them before knowing what they are going to do is crazy.Let's just wait and see tomorrow.

 

[Direwolf]

Just to say it's not just China. India is also refusing to condemn the Russian invasion. Countries will always have their own agenda's that suits their foreign policy position. It does not necessarily mean they agree with what's going on.

 

[Sussex Wolf]

Apart from not voting with China at the UN, Chinese businesses and banks are also getting cold feet in Russia.

China-Backed Bank Halts Lending to Russia, Belarus - The Moscow Times

The China-backed Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank said it will suspend business related to Russia and Belarus in a sign of the two countries' deepening pariah status over the war in Ukraine.

www.themoscowtimes.com

China-led development bank halts business in Russia, Belarus

Move is latest sign of the limits of Beijing’s support for Moscow as it faces sanctions and censure over war in Ukraine.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[derbyrameater]

I wonder if the Hong Kong protests will start again, a repeat of the maidan .

And a nudge to Taiwan from an unnamed country to get a bit uppity.

 

[Sussex Wolf]

They wore “no to war” T shirts.
Would be nice if they could specifically state “we stand with Ukraine”

Perhaps we should remember that one of our players has Ukrainian nationality and family over there.

 

[Mutchy]

Football related in this section please.

 

[lostwolf]

Just to say it's not just China. India is also refusing to condemn the Russian invasion. Countries will always have their own agenda's that suits their foreign policy position. It does not necessarily mean they agree with what's going on.

It means they're offering tacit agreement though. Arguably a weaker moral position.

 

[Padraig]

I see all the England players in the next few days are going to announce whether they're going to Quatar or not.

Will be awkward if Mings says he’s going

 

[DJW]

Football related in this section please.

Why do you keep saying that? Football, and sport in general, have never been more intertwined with politics as they are right now. It's not the best time to ban discussion on it surely?

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

Anyone taking Ukraine flags tomorrow??

 

[lostwolf]

I've toned down my anti CCP / Fosun rhetoric because a) I was annoying people to no end, and b) Fosun have been reasonable custodians of our club and got us to a point I frankly never dreamed of. I'm not going to start up again, we all know the arguments, but I will say that I'd be okay with them selling up given the level they've got us to and the whole self-sufficient model. Fair play to Shi & Co.

My one lingering frustration would be that they've left the ground exactly as it was when they arrived... 'all' I wanted from them was PL consolidation (ticked, and then some) and a new Steve Bull stand to make Molineux a class but traditional ground, up with the best in the land (Hillsborough, Villa Park, Anfield etc. i.e. the good ones to visit because they're big and proper).

But of course... sometimes it's a case of better the devil you know.

 

[lostwolf]

Something like this would be good to see tomorrow. I imagine most clubs will do something similar. Tokenistic? - yes, a bit. Still worth doing to show some solidarity? - I reckon so.

 

[VancouverWolf]

Last weekend people all over the world showed their support for Ukraine…..FIFA banned them, no para Olympics etc….sadly, nothing changed.
Waving Ukrainian flags makes no difference to Putin.
I doubt he even knows what’s going on outside of the war.

 

[Contrarian]

If Fosun is anti free speech and free expression, they shouldn't have bought a football club in England. Wolves, as well as the Premier League should give as much support to Ukraine as they can and if China and Fosun don't like it, then tough.
I've always felt uncomfortable with Chinese owners and this just reinforces that feeling.

On similar principle, we shouldn't buy things made in China? And certainly should not be going to a World Cup in Qatar. Shouldn't have gone to the one in Russia, either, the regime was the same then as it is now.

 

[lostwolf]

Last weekend people all over the world showed their support for Ukraine…..FIFA banned them, no para Olympics etc….sadly, nothing changed.
Waving Ukrainian flags makes no difference to Putin.
I doubt he even knows what’s going on outside of the war.

True, waving Ukrainian flags achieves nothing. But it does show some solidarity. So why not just do it?

Unless you are Jeff as I've sometimes suspected, given your unwavering support, and the CCP have got your family under the threat of 're-education'?

P.S. Xi Jinping, I joke, obviously.

 

[rincewind]

Last weekend people all over the world showed their support for Ukraine…..FIFA banned them, no para Olympics etc….sadly, nothing changed.
Waving Ukrainian flags makes no difference to Putin.
I doubt he even knows what’s going on outside of the war.

Putin probably knows but will treat such expressions of support with contempt. He might be a bit more interested if the players and fans were collecting for anti tank missiles I suppose.!
If he believes much of the frankly often ludicrous comments he and his administration come out with, then he has some serious mental health issues. Tonight's "why can't everyone carry on as normal" TV appearance as a case in point- very Hitler in the bunker out of touch.
This guy won't care about any amount of demonstrations or anti Russia comments (outside of Russians of course).

 

[Mutchy]

Why do you keep saying that? Football, and sport in general, have never been more intertwined with politics as they are right now. It's not the best time to ban discussion on it surely?

Discussion isn’t banned at all, it’s freely available in the politics section for anyone who makes that little bit of effort to post there.