A relegation battle is my answer unless we sort out ****ing selves out.
Our form for the last few months of last season could make this very possible unless new additions are incoming.
A relegation battle is my answer unless we sort out ****ing selves out.
Honestly think anyone still thinking we are going to break into a top six needs to come back down to earth. The big six, despite a few of them having rocky spells are absolutely miles ahead of us and lets not forget what Newcastle are trying to do and how Leicester have already built a solid base. Also only a matter of time before another club is taken over by multibillionaires happy to throw money at it.
"Once great"Fosun have no ambition, no idea how to communicate to the fans who they have little regard for and quite clearly if they ever had an interest in the once great club that's long long gone.
Solid mid table premier league. See southampton, crystal palace, brighton, leedsDoes anyone here have the foggiest where we want to be as a club and how we are going to get there ?
Under previous owners it was clearly survival - 17th or better was the target.
Under Nuno it appeared to be European competition. But now I wouldnt know how to explain our target probably a weak - " The best we can do "
If I was a player wanting to join WWFC that is the first thing I would want to hear.
I have listened to Ask Wolves - honest .
So how would you explain our position in a POSITIVE way to a wanabee Wolves player that is thinking of signing a contract with WWFC ?
Bit like Burnley until last season? The Championship and even League One is littered with teams that thought they were solid mid-table PL teams.Solid mid table premier league. See southampton, crystal palace, brighton, leeds
Agreed…as it stands I think we’re deep in the mire…Our form for the last few months of last season could make this very possible unless new additions are incoming.
Same as it ever was!
Lololol / love your player summarySeptember will tell. If we can just move down that list that is fine. We do need at least 4 first teamers.
Unless Traore get a sense of reality, Neves stays , Boly bucks up, Neto and Jimmy get fit , Silva grows up and Podence stops sulking.
Don’t kid yourself that the money the Fosun Sports Group potentially makes from esports will be going in Wolves transfer kitty.The way I see it is that the CCP have told Chinese owners of football clubs outside China to stop investing, probably to the annoyance of Fosun, - how many other Chinese owned clubs are throwing money at transfers?
Obviously we cannot compete with the big boys as it stands and we cannot do a City or a Chelsea because of FFP, the only way to increase our transfer kitty is increasing revenues like getting into music, esports and fashion etc. This is why Jeff has said the club has to be self sufficient and this is why we have young, raw, cheap players as they can be sold for profit.
This is also why we are not seeing any investment in improving the stadium.
I'm just as frustrated as the rest of us at the apparent 'turning off of the taps' but in the long term this may have to be the best way to fight for trophies and regularly get into Europe by having a bigger revenue stream and more commercial prowess but its going to take patience.
Fosun may not themselves be happy with having their hands tied by the CCP and its frustrating as we all, and surely including Fosun, just want to see exciting football and trophies being won at this club we all love.
The way I see it is that the CCP have told Chinese owners of football clubs outside China to stop investing, probably to the annoyance of Fosun, - how many other Chinese owned clubs are throwing money at transfers?
Obviously we cannot compete with the big boys as it stands and we cannot do a City or a Chelsea because of FFP, the only way to increase our transfer kitty is increasing revenues like getting into music, esports and fashion etc. This is why Jeff has said the club has to be self sufficient and this is why we have young, raw, cheap players as they can be sold for profit.
This is also why we are not seeing any investment in improving the stadium.
I'm just as frustrated as the rest of us at the apparent 'turning off of the taps' but in the long term this may have to be the best way to fight for trophies and regularly get into Europe by having a bigger revenue stream and more commercial prowess but its going to take patience.
Fosun may not themselves be happy with having their hands tied by the CCP and its frustrating as we all, and surely including Fosun, just want to see exciting football and trophies being won at this club we all love.
I think us ‘happy Clappers’ look at the league table and review evidence as proof that we haven’t been relegated, neither are we going bust or Fosun asset stripping the club.
You my friend, and others sharing your dour ‘the sky is falling in’ mantra, are basing your views on Twitter, questionable internet rumours and bull**** media outlets.
We finished 10th last season after you and yours were screaming relegation. Oh but that’s not Fosun, that’s credit to everyone/anyone else but Fosun.
Honestly, if I was caring enough, I’d be ringing up for half a dozen whaaa whaaa whaambulances to take you all to cry baby hospital.
Agreed - but no USP to any prospective player ? To grab them away from the also rans .Solid mid table premier league. See southampton, crystal palace, brighton, leeds
Just as I feel . I was hoping for enlightenment . But there is no clarity .There is a conclusion we can draw from this thread - NO no one here knows where we are heading and I’ll let you all draw your own conclusions.
Yes I do criticise he club and rightly so. We r a mess on the field and I see no redemptive action on the part of the club to fix it. It matters little how far we’ve come, we only can influence where we are going and I don’t like the view I’m gettingLeague 1 obviously....
Another thread moaning about the club....
Just plain ignorance of what had been achieved over the last 5/6 years........
Just don't like it right now cos we're not signing players left right and centre so I'll Question the club as a whole...
Please lord! Try and save these guys!!!
I don't even believe in god and I'm still hoping he/she/it can send some perspective and gratitude down over some
Yes I do criticise he club and rightly so. We r a mess on the field and I see no redemptive action on the part of the club to fix it. It matters little how far we’ve come, we only can influence where we are going and I don’t like the view I’m gettingLeague 1 obviously....
Another thread moaning about the club....
Just plain ignorance of what had been achieved over the last 5/6 years........
Just don't like it right now cos we're not signing players left right and centre so I'll Question the club as a whole...
Please lord! Try and save these guys!!!
I don't even believe in god and I'm still hoping he/she/it can send some perspective and gratitude down over some
We're in a mess are we?......Yes I do criticise he club and rightly so. We r a mess on the field and I see no redemptive action on the part of the club to fix it. It matters little how far we’ve come, we only can influence where we are going and I don’t like the view I’m getting
Rather than be personal , could you please look at our first team squad and explain why we will improve on our dire performances and results since February ?We're in a mess are we?......
That says it all. Your opinion means very little based on that comment and view. How very sad you think that.
Downward direction. We can't afford to lose anymore players also.Down
It seems that some of us believe that music, fashion and esports will increase our transfer kitty, and others think any money made will go elsewhere.The way I see it is that the CCP have told Chinese owners of football clubs outside China to stop investing, probably to the annoyance of Fosun, - how many other Chinese owned clubs are throwing money at transfers?
Obviously we cannot compete with the big boys as it stands and we cannot do a City or a Chelsea because of FFP, the only way to increase our transfer kitty is increasing revenues like getting into music, esports and fashion etc. This is why Jeff has said the club has to be self sufficient and this is why we have young, raw, cheap players as they can be sold for profit.
This is also why we are not seeing any investment in improving the stadium.
I'm just as frustrated as the rest of us at the apparent 'turning off of the taps' but in the long term this may have to be the best way to fight for trophies and regularly get into Europe by having a bigger revenue stream and more commercial prowess but its going to take patience.
Fosun may not themselves be happy with having their hands tied by the CCP and its frustrating as we all, and surely including Fosun, just want to see exciting football and trophies being won at this club we all love.
Most of us just look at the squad and results and make our judgements . As football fans that is how it should be.It seems that some of us believe that music, fashion and esports will increase our transfer kitty, and others think any money made will go elsewhere.
It comes up again and again. Maybe we should dedicate a thread to this issue and get input from the likes of Kieran Maguire or others that actually understand football finance.
Personal view - these ventures won't make any serious money for a while, and when they do, it will be accounted for in other businesses. Wolves may get increased commercial deals - ie 'a new official sponsor for energy drinks' but how much will that raise?
Shi made a big thing about it because he had nothing else that was positive to say. 'No money for transfers, no money for real ground development. But don't worry, esports will save us.'
However, no-one else on this forum knows the real story and it's something I think we need to understand more about.
Well if you want me to spell it out for you:We're in a mess are we?......
That says it all. Your opinion means very little based on that comment and view. How very sad you think that.
1. Neves, moutinho, Donk as it stands.Well if you want me to spell it out for you:
- Who exactly do u see in midfield next season?
- Where are our goals to come from?
- What is our dominant attacking plan?
- When we don’t control midfield what is our default plan?
- Our back three s exposed so do we have the players to play a back four?
- All sorts of rumours about player unrest
- The new kit is as exciting as last weeks dinner
- Our ground looks ungainly
- We don’t have proper video screens
- Two of our stands are an embarrassment
- So many faded seats that need replacing
- Growing disconnect between club hierarchy and core fans due to the club choosing not to discuss anything seriously
By themselves they are not so pressing but collectively I’d say yes we are in a mess.
It gives me no pleasure saying these things but they are our reality
Improvement yes. We're in a mess??!!! Give over! How dramaticRather than be personal , could you please look at our first team squad and explain why we will improve on our dire performances and results since February ?
When referring to someone who made a specific comment it's hard not to be personal to be honest.Rather than be personal , could you please look at our first team squad and explain why we will improve on our dire performances and results since February ?
Improvement yes. We're in a mess??!!! Give over! How dramatic
Completely irrelevant.In a mess!!! Compared to the Bhatti era this is paradise. Today's fans have been spoilt and don't realise how close this club came to being no more.
1. Neves, moutinho, Donk as it stands.
2. Raul, Neto, podence, hwang.... Silva....
3. Drop back and play on the counter with width
4. Our back 3 in the current system has had one of the best goals against over the last few seasons......
5. What ****ing rumours?? Make it up as you go along if you want...
6. General consensus is this year's kit is very very good.... Just read on here ffs....
7. Our ground has just hosted 3 International fixtures so can't be that bad from the outside looking in...
8. Yes, they need to be upgraded
9. Some seats do, a lot were done last year so it's a continuous operation
10. Is there growing discontent or are you just not as happy as youd like to be?...
Like most clubs, there's improvements in many areas that are desired! A mess??? **** off
Completely irrelevant.
My point exactlyIn a mess!!! Compared to the Bhatti era this is paradise. Today's fans have been spoilt and don't realise how close this club came to being no more.