The happy days are here again, hopefully no more repeated arguments, transfer thread

[sc91]

West ham surely can’t sign scammaca and Broja? I’d love broja an Eastern European. steamrolling ****house of a centre forward!

Broja is from Slough.

 

[Dan G WWFC]

I think Donk is fine when played in front of the defence - as per Villa at home this season. Why on earth Bruno plays him in that advanced inside right position I have no idea.

Villa Verdict

Time for a drink.... Huge to get a win after the Leeds match. I thought our mentality may be shot after that but fair play. I still think we will struggle to hold on to 7th, but 8th represents a bloody great season. https://streamja.com/Lykyg Decisions are getting weird now

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I think it was because he wanted an extra man in midfield but also wanted to defend with a 523 so wanted him to cover that part of the pitch.

To be fair, he did a similar job with us in our first season in the premier league, difference was we had Jota and Raul firing and we didn't need to look for Donk to be a creative outlet as we'll always be lacking

 

[reanswolf]

It's going to be difficult to press when as a team we defend deep and try and soak up pressure, it could be a case of he's pressing on an angle to close players down and force them to pass it certain ways, basically help us contain as a defense, which could lead to other players getting tackles. But without knowing exactly team roles we don't know. Maybe he is just too slow.


I think we tend to get overun in midfield due to our low block and playing 523.

I'm not saying Donk should be a starter for us and we need a new midfielder especially in a 433. But even then I expect him to get a number of starts and appear most games.

I'd personally want £20m to 25m for him, not because that's what I think he's worth but, if we want to get an upgrade and also find sombody to fill in his role too, we'd need a decent bit of money.

I'd be very interested to see how look playing in a 433 of Neves holding and Donk and Moutinho ahead of him and MGW in a free roam on the right. As that kind of Carrilero role, a term people that play fm will recognise would potentially get the best out of him.

Good post.

 

[WolfLing]

Broja is from Slough.

It's a more eastern part of Europe than Wolvo.

 

[Madmalc]

Tell us you've never watched football outside of the UK without telling us you've never watched football outside of the UK...

Nunes stats over a season are 3 goals and 2 assists in a team that scored 73 goals in whatever rank of league that teams plays in. Dendoncker's stats over a season are 2 goals and 2 assists in a team that only scored 38 goals in the Premier league. He'd might probably got 4 goals and 4 assists in a team that scored 73 goals.
I'm not interested in a player with half the percentage contribution a team that Dendoncker gives us. I'm also not taken in by seeing someone uprooting trees in a performance in a European Cup league fixture.

 

[WolfLing]

I'd be very interested to see how look playing in a 433 of Neves holding and Donk and Moutinho ahead of him and MGW in a free roam on the right. As that kind of Carrilero role, a term people that play fm will recognise would potentially get the best out of him.

Wouldn't that be Donk and Mouts as Carrileros and Gibbs-White as more of a Ramdeuter?

 

[Hoganstolemywife]

Still get 11/2 on us going down, a bet that gets more attractive as the days pass.

Those odds are very short in my entirely wolves opinion. Id have us tenth or so

We've never been anywhere near a relegation battle and barring disasters (which could afflict anyone 7th down), I can't see that happening at all.

We defo need a striker and probably a midfielder but if we are going to genuinely play 4atb - and not the difficult to watch all out defence from last season - we SHOULD have a good season.

Then again, if Jimenez struggles, Neves does his ACL, Neto breaks his leg and Kilman ruptures his Achilles, that 11/2 looks good! But replace Kilman for Dunk, Neto for Bowen, Neves for Mcginn etc.

 

[Tojo the grass]

If they sign just one more player then as usual we will get caught out when suspension and injuries hit . No way would I have loaned out a few of the players we have if no others are coming in .

I agree with midfield but the trouble is we desperately need another striker as well. No way you can have only Raul as a no9 at the club. With letting Fabio go they simply have to sign another striker and this is now a huge priority as well as central midfield. If Adama goes a winger becomes anther priority as both Podence and Neto have had injuries and Chiq is out.

Yeah I know we need more than just one player Jos, I was trying to put some perspective on how careful we need to be if we are considering selling Donk.

 

[WolfInSheep'sClothing]

How much could we get Norgarrd from Brentford for? I think he's a significant step up on Donk and Mouts.

 

[thommo1984]

Now the dust has settled, it's almost unbelievable we let Fabio go without a nailed-on replacement. Almost...

 

[Madmalc]

Yeah, that is an issue.

But Donk is a utility central midfield player that can cover at centre back. I can't remember him ever really playing for us as a central DM, as it is normally Neves who operates there if we play a 3 man CM.

We have a wealth of centre backs now, to the point where Donk may never be called on to play there again.

So even if we haven't got the budget for specialists in every position, having a 3rd CM option that can either play defensive when needed, or play more effectively as an attacking, progressive option in a 3, would be far more valuable to our squad now than Donk, in my opinion, given how ineffective he's been in that farthest forward of the 3 'midfield winger' position Bruno has talked about.

Nunes is that type of player. He can sit if he needs to, he can attack, he is proper box to box and he has a goal in him. I've said before that the player he reminds me of the most is Bruno Guimaraes at Newcastle. But he's an expensive option that probably doesn't want to come.

It's that Conor Gallagher, all-round box to box type midfield option we have been missing for ages that is the next step to our progression for me.

Andre Almeida might be the one if Nunes never happens.

50m for someone with almost identical states in a team that scored almost twice as many goals means Nunes isn't an upgrade on Donks, it actually means that for most of the season he was even more invisible than Donks.

 

[reanswolf]

Stats aren't everything, not that I know anything about Nunes.

I used to love Doucoure at Everton (well when he was at Watford), had hoped our young lad who went to Bruges might turn out something like him. Shows how much I know!

 

[sillytuna]

A lot on here thought a striker was imminent with Fabio going and the club wouldnt be so stupid to loan out Raul's only direct competition without a replacement coming in immediately. It has followed a sadly predictable pattern so far though with no sign of any striker signing at present.

Maybe so but decrying things when the season hasn't started, the transfer window hasn't ended (and it's a weird one all around), mgw and collins are new first team starters, and no points for transfers - it's not exactly healthy.

Just like the traore deal will be daft should he not extend his contract, so will letting silva go be daft should we not sign anyone.

That's then, not now. I don't understand why you always seem panicked and frustrated - no offence. This is just normal football stuff. It seems particularly hard to get transfers done right now for a lot of teams.

And we know wolves are extremely picky and rumours are baseless - esp where we are concerned. So 'no sign' actually just means 'not signed anyone'. There are no other signs.

 

[SmiffyWolf]

Now the dust has settled, it's almost unbelievable we let Fabio go without a nailed-on replacement. Almost...

Are we surprised though look at the Graham Hughes stand saga last year . There is a common trend here 3 letters S**

So if we do again get this crap of we tried this and that . Well maybe try and get the ****ing player in first then you loan the players out

 

[WolfInSheep'sClothing]

I wouldn't have complained at all if our summer business was Ben Mee, Jesse Lingard plus one striker. Good signings for Brentford and Forest.

 

[ANONYMOUS☆WOLF]

Still no signs of Fabio’s replacement???? Absolute madness wolves…….

 

[sillytuna]

Donc's is a rubbish midfielder and a poor defender, but he -can- do a job, seems a good lad, and knows how to play for the team. His energy does fill spaces but his tackling is woeful, his passing very defensive, and he misses too many chances. Oh, and he gets turned easily. His bad games far outnumber his good ones imho.

We do need a utility player tho so you don't sell donc without having a replacement. The problem isn't him, it's not having a real alternative to our starting two. Donc should be 4th choice and used very carefully/to rest players during games.

Instead he's 3rd choice and offers nothing extra when we struggle.

 

[Mile End Wanderer]

Are we surprised though look at the Graham Hughes stand saga last year . There is a common trend here 3 letters S**

So if we do again get this crap of we tried this and that . Well maybe try and get the ****ing player in first then you loan the players out

They must have someone lined up going into the season relying on Raul is beyond a joke from a fans perspective. We don’t even have anyone from the youth team we could really throw in??

 

[Skrilla]

Selling Dendoncker would absolutely mean we'd need two new midfielders in. He's not the first name on the team sheet for me, but he's very valuable to us and gets an unwarranted amount of flack sometimes because a lot of the work he does is off the ball. He's Dave Edwards on steroids.

If we continue to play with a back four, with Neves as the holding midfielder and Moutinho as the more advanced of the two, what we really need is some competition for Mouts. You can't expect a 36 year old to start 30+ games again this season without a considerable drop-off in form. Dendoncker gives us cover for Neves and allows us to play 3 in midfield when necessary to beef up the midfield.

Ideally a technical midfielder that isn't afraid to do the dirty work as well. If we can address that and get a decent striker in, or more ideally a forward that can play across the front three, then this squad is in very decent shape.

 

[Dan G WWFC]

Wouldn't that be Donk and Mouts as Carrileros and Gibbs-White as more of a Ramdeuter?

Erm, I potentially say no purely because Neto I would imagine would play with more natural width but may come inside at times, so Moutinho might not need to cover the side as much. Not really sure what you'd class his role to be honest. MGW probably more of an advance playmaker or something like that.

Wouldn't be surprised if we looked at our heat map, the shape in that 433 would looks a bit like a 442 diamond

 

[Northampton_wolf]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1550465298880499714

So all quiet from journos in general, percy romano et al other than mused outgoings.

And ITKS also complete radio silence for them

It does coincide with them being away, i hope to hear something over this weekend.

When are the boys flying back and at compton, they will need to be off to portugal what by wednesday?

 

[Berkswolf]

So, nowt happening then!

 

[wolvesaywe]

People do realise there's still 40 days of the transfer window to go?

Still a lot of cards to fall

 

[Northampton_wolf]

People do realise there's still 40 days of the transfer window to go?

Still a lot of cards to fall

Im more worried of us buying players in august, due to losses in August.

Rather have ducks in a row before that leeds game

 

[Kebab Warrior]

People do realise there's still 40 days of the transfer window to go?

Still a lot of cards to fall

I’ve been very vocal in my criticism in the past but even I refuse to believe we’d be dumb enough to loan Fabio without a proper plan.
Not unless behind the scenes he’d been an utter toss blanket.

 

[Northampton_wolf]

I’ve been very vocal in my criticism in the past but even I refuse to believe we’d be dumb enough to loan Fabio without a proper plan.
Not unless behind the scenes he’d been an utter toss blanket.

Again given we wanted a 2 year extension, suggest he wasnt a toss blanket as you so put it.

I refuse to think we fly out to portugal without some more concrete links for players

 

[tonto]

I know a lot of people are in panic mode but I really think a striker is a done deal and will be announced when the club are good and ready
Probably Jeff doing his Alfred Hitchcock impression

 

[Kebab Warrior]

Again given we wanted a 2 year extension, suggest he wasnt a toss blanket as you so put it.

I refuse to think we fly out to portugal without some more concrete links for players

I felt the 2 year was to protect his resale value rather than indicative of a desire to have him play for us. I don’t think the extension and potential toss-blanketness are mutually exclusive.

 

[Northampton_wolf]

Wolves 'guaranteed' they'd make offer - Hasn't happened yet, friendly could be key - Sport Witness

The rumours linking Matheus Nunes to Wolverhampton Wanderers may be far from its most intense days, but it still doesn’t mean they’ve vanished. Today, newspaper Record features a long story claiming that in case the midfielder stays at Sporting for this season, he’ll have his contract renewed...

sportwitness.co.uk

The newspaper then draws attention to something curious, which may not have any impact on the transfer, but is still interesting.

Wolves and Sporting are set to play on the 30th of July in a friendly in Portugal. It’s said officials from both clubs should meet before the match, as ‘institutional formalisms’, and Nunes is expected to perform in front of directors from the Premier League side.


worked with collins didnt it (here is dreaming)

 

[DanishWolf]

How much could we get Norgarrd from Brentford for? I think he's a significant step up on Donk and Mouts.

Their Player of the year, signed a new long term contract in January and by all accounts thrives there. So don't think we'd any chance.

Would be a good signing though with his ability to be both defensively solid as well as technically gifted.

Remember watching him quite a lot live when he played for my local team, Brøndby and he was so elegant on the ball., and way too good for the Danish league.
To imagine Brentford signed him for just about 2 million, after he didn't thrive in Italy in 2019.
Shows what kind of bargains are out there.

 

[WickedWolfie]

Donck isn’t in the same league as many of those names you mention! So their is unsung and there is…

Your first sentence is your view. Don't assume that everyone agrees. I'm always amazed how many Wolves fans praise players (e.g. McTominay) who their own fans say are utter dog****e and yet are so fast to slag off our own players.

 

[WolfInSheep'sClothing]

Their Player of the year, signed a new long term contract in January and by all accounts thrives there. So don't think we'd any chance.

Would be a good signing though with his ability to be both defensively solid as well as technically gifted.

Remember watching him quite a lot live when he played for my local team, Brøndby and he was so elegant on the ball., and way too good for the Danish league.
To imagine Brentford signed him for just about 2 million, after he didn't thrive in Italy in 2019.
Shows what kind of bargains are out there.

There was me hoping we might be above Brentford in the pecking order of the world.

 

[Derbywolf85]

Nunes stats over a season are 3 goals and 2 assists in a team that scored 73 goals in whatever rank of league that teams plays in. Dendoncker's stats over a season are 2 goals and 2 assists in a team that only scored 38 goals in the Premier league. He'd might probably got 4 goals and 4 assists in a team that scored 73 goals.
I'm not interested in a player with half the percentage contribution a team that Dendoncker gives us. I'm also not taken in by seeing someone uprooting trees in a performance in a European Cup league fixture.

He isn't a goal scoring midfielder. You seem to have it wedged in your head that he plays as a 10 behind the striker or something.

He's a CM. His job is to move the ball around for creative players. Not score goals or get assists.

Not often I stick my neck on the line on places like this - but you're so painfully wrong I'm going to have to assume you're a WUM.

 

[Timberwolf]

Is that essentially a "**** off" price for a player that neither want nor need to sell?

They can sell him for £12m to anyone on the continent. To moneybags Premier League, it’s £50m. If they don’t get £50m, they’ll still get the £12m. Win, win for them.

 

[Ewok vs Wolf]

I think Donck is really under appreciated and would be a bigger loss than people think
Wouldn't be worthetting him go for under 25m

 

[sc91]

It's a more eastern part of Europe than Wolvo.

True true, and there is Heathrow...

 

[Northampton_wolf]

valencia looking to extend guedes and soler contracts, can still be sold, but less likely, after roma didnt bite.


Andre almeida supposingly a class above in vitoria's europa conference league game.

Benfica team v girona - unlikely any movement on grimaldo/ramos at this time

https://twitter.com/x/status/1550488040228982790

 

[WickedWolfie]

There was me hoping we might be above Brentford in the pecking order of the world.

We may well be. That, however, doesn't mean that they have to sell a player to us just because we want them. We'd rightly be calling out the ManUres of the world as entitled ****ers if they took that attitude towards one of our players. Guess what we'd be if we start that crap.....

 

[CelebrityWolf]

Broja is from Slough.

Having been to Slough that makes him Eastern European

 

[sc91]

Having been to Slough that makes him Eastern European

Ah cos them all forin init lol