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Plastic Shrapnel

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So why did we only change the law after Brexit screwed British clubs out of signing wonderkids from the EU?
There are no different rules to signing players from EU to anywhere else now.

When the rules changed, they made the amendment of adding South American Countries' Leagues to the list.

Buying a 21 year old regular 1st teamer from France equates to the same player playing in Argentina now.

It only appears harder to sign EU players because we're so used to freedom of movement.
 

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The "UKBA" doesn't exist. UK Visas and Immigration is responsible for policy aspects of immigration.
The relaxing of requirements was done to help negate the damage done to UK Football Clubs by leaving the EU. As agreed by the UKVI following consultation between the FA, the Premier League, the Football League, the Professional Footballers’ Association, the League Managers’ Association and the other Home Associations of the Scottish FA, the FA of Wales and the Irish FA.

Fixed for pedant.
 

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Let's be clear - there is absolutely no chance we end up with Nunes, Neves, Fernandes, Moutinho and MGW as Midfield options.

But we can all dream of what the world would look like if we did :hearteyes:
 

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Let's be clear - there is absolutely no chance we end up with Nunes, Neves, Fernandes, Moutinho and MGW as Midfield options.

But we can all dream of what the world would look like if we did :hearteyes:
You're completely right
It will be Nunes, Neves, Fernandes, Moutinho, MGW, Moutinho, Dendoncker, Sanches
 

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There are no different rules to signing players from EU to anywhere else now.

When the rules changed, they made the amendment of adding South American Countries' Leagues to the list.

Buying a 21 year old regular 1st teamer from France equates to the same player playing in Argentina now.

It only appears harder to sign EU players because we're so used to freedom of movement.
Yes I know. But the rules would not have changed if not for the loss of FoM.

If we're being really pedantic, Brexit has nothing to do with the rule change, nor does leaving the EU. It's purely the loss of FoM which necessitated the rule change.

FoM could perhaps have been negotiated while leaving the EU, but Brexit is the biggest contributing factor to the loss of FoM.

The rule change therefore is as a direct result of Brexit.
 

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Absolutely - Italy and Ireland too. I said as much at post #10534.
Interesting. I would never have thought there are many Irish descendants in South America? Where exactly are the highest congregations and how/why did this particular emigration come about?
 

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Interesting. I would never have thought there are many Irish descendants in South America? Where exactly are the highest congregations and how/why did this particular emigration come about?
Weird fact: there is a valley somewhere in Argentina where they all talk Welsh.

There are some fairly significant enclaves of German descent in South America too.

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In some cases wasn’t it due to the fact that some South American’s can quite easily get duel citizenship to countries like Spain and Portugal as a result of historical links?
If a South American could get an EU passport because of his heritage then he would have been able to play in England, as the UK was a member back then and could not refuse a work permit to an EU passport holder. So, it was more relaxed rules in the other EU countries
 

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If a South American could get an EU passport because of his heritage then he would have been able to play in England, as the UK was a member back then and could not refuse a work permit to an EU passport holder. So, it was more relaxed rules in the other EU countries
The rules for acquiring citizenship in some EU countries are significantly looser than those in UK too. Hence some players used to get EU passports and hence the right to work in the UK that way.
 

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Weird fact: there is a valley somewhere in Argentina where they all talk Welsh.

There are some fairly significant enclaves of German descent in South America too.

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Funny enough there's a very small valley in West Brom where they talk a form of English!
 

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Interesting. I would never have thought there are many Irish descendants in South America? Where exactly are the highest congregations and how/why did this particular emigration come about?
There is a football club, and a region, in Chile called O'Higgins. Named after a founding father of the nation who's family come from County Sligo.
 

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I did read a lot on it when it came out, but don’t remember more specifics than that.
Signing EU players hasn’t actually become more difficult than signing South American players, it’s now the same, as the eligibility criteria is pretty much the same, whereas there was complete freedom for EU before. Probably easier to get in a libertadores squad than CL though.
Did It hinder us signing Ruben semedo? ie were we allowed to sign convicted EU criminals pre-brexit? Or have I been reading too much propaganda?
I mean it's probably a good thing.
 

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Let's be clear - there is absolutely no chance we end up with Nunes, Neves, Fernandes, Moutinho and MGW as Midfield options.

But we can all dream of what the world would look like if we did :hearteyes:
That is my dream, and Palhina, with Dendonker sold and Cundle on loan to Sheff U.
It’s for free, right?
 

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My only take on Enzo is why would Matt fly 7500 miles if there was no chance of signing him

My only take on Enzo is why would Matt fly 7500 miles if there was no chance of signing him
Can look at it one of two ways.

1) Sealing the deal and signing the contract
2) Flying out there to sell the club to him & his reps in person, showing them how much we want him
 
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My only take on Enzo is why would Matt fly 7500 miles if there was no chance of signing him
He wouldn't of course. There must be a good chance to get him for this to happen. I hope he's got the 20m euros in his back pack, so when they ask for the release clause money he just says "funny you should mention that" as he pulls out the cash and slaps it on the table!
Maybe the last bit is stretching it, but it would make good TV... :tearsofjoy:
 
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