Just bought it home to me....

[Hereford Wolf]

I remember being at the Molineux not many years ago watching the Bradford fans celebrate promotion to the Premier League. Look at them now...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ty/8502899.stm

Things could be worse.....

[Oxford Wolf]

Things could always be worse.

Whilst it is disappointing we haven't been able to spend the money to bring some experience/class in to the squad at least we have a club in good health.

I'd rather be supporting a CCC team then not have a team to support at all.

[Westport Wolf]

Funny isn't it. I remember that and watching them feeling gutted that a club like Bradford had beaten us to the Prem. We've also seen Barnsley come and go. Did Notts County once have a season in the Prem in the early days of the Prem? How many other clubs have had a season up there and then dropped down the league?

[Woodsetton Wolf]

why do people keep banging on about what others do or have done.
We are in a healthy position to spend we have morgans money and sky money, why hasnt it been used in a great oppurtunity like this poor prem season??

[Westport Wolf]

This thread isn't about the doom and gloom of this season and the wasted opportunities, but just a look back at what others have done in the past. To answer my own question of earlier, Notts County had one season in the top flight in 1990-91 season.

[Marvin]

Originally Posted by Westport Wolf

Funny isn't it. I remember that and watching them feeling gutted that a club like Bradford had beaten us to the Prem. We've also seen Barnsley come and go. Did Notts County once have a season in the Prem in the early days of the Prem? How many other clubs have had a season up there and then dropped down the league?

I remember Swindon getting promoted to the top flight, and getting mullered every week. (with Mutchy playing a part). I think that was premier, but i'm not certain.

[saturday boy]

oldham, leeds, west ham, chelsea, newcastle, sunderland, wimbledon, blackburn, bolton, albion, birmingham, man city, hull, derby....

it's a long list of teams who passed us on the way up....and down. for some it worked out, for others it didn't.

[SaleWolf]

Yet more, "It could be a lot worse" posting from the usual suspects.

Bradford were punching well above their weight and have never been anything more than a League One/Championship club at best.

Just because Bradford are suffering, doesn't make it any easier for us to watch the current $$$$ served up by Mick Mccarthy.

Its like saying to a British couple, living in poverty with their kids in a council estate, it could be worse you know, you could have been born in the Sudan.

Poverty is poverty. And failure is failure.

[Big Saft Kid]

Originally Posted by SaleWolf

Yet more, "It could be a lot worse" posting from the usual suspects.

Bradford were punching well above their weight and have never been anything more than a League One/Championship club at best.

Just because Bradford are suffering, doesn't make it any easier for us to watch the current $$$$ served up by Mick Mccarthy.

Its like saying to a British couple, living in poverty with their kids in a council estate, it could be worse you know, you could have been born in the Sudan.

Poverty is poverty. And failure is failure.

Ay least it's warm in Sudan. It's usually $$$$ing freezing in Bradford.

[Marvin]

Originally Posted by SaleWolf

Yet more, "It could be a lot worse" posting from the usual suspects.

Bradford were punching well above their weight and have never been anything more than a League One/Championship club at best.

Just because Bradford are suffering, doesn't make it any easier for us to watch the current $$$$ served up by Mick Mccarthy.

Its like saying to a British couple, living in poverty with their kids in a council estate, it could be worse you know, you could have been born in the Sudan.

Poverty is poverty. And failure is failure.

That depends whether you're talking in relative terms or in absolute terms.

Compared to a family in Sudan, poverty on a council estate in Britain could be considered luxurious. Relative to many of the population, of course, it is indeed poverty.

Similarly, to a team like Bradford, being in the Championship would be success, while to Wolves fans it will always be failure.

[SaleWolf]

Originally Posted by Marvin

That depends whether you're talking in relative terms or in absolute terms.

Considering my post, which terms do you think i'm talking in exactly?

I'll give you a clue, its not absolute...

[W01ves]

Originally Posted by SaleWolf

Yet more, "It could be a lot worse" posting from the usual suspects.

Bradford were punching well above their weight and have never been anything more than a League One/Championship club at best.

Just because Bradford are suffering, doesn't make it any easier for us to watch the current $$$$ served up by Mick Mccarthy.

Its like saying to a British couple, living in poverty with their kids in a council estate, it could be worse you know, you could have been born in the Sudan.

Poverty is poverty. And failure is failure.

Perhaps some people prefer to keep a positive steady outlook on things rather than either seeing negative in everything that is or getting caught up in a weekly ever changing emotional whirlwind that apparently comes with supporting a football club for some?

There's absolutely nothing wrong with always remaining positive in any given situation, even if that then tirelessly and gets ridiculed and coined as being a 'happy clapper'. I certainly know who I'd prefer to be with in the trenches and I'd hate to be stuck in there amongst some of our supposed own.

[Dewsburywolf]

Bradford are in the state they're in because of, amongst other things, they stayed up by the skin of their teeth & then went out and bought Collymore, Petrescu & Carbone & the like (then refused Middlesborough's offer of just taking Carbone on loan - preferring a fee rather than getting his wages off their payroll - Boro said OK then thanks but no thanks) AND also spending their ITV Digital money before they'd actually recieved it (ITV Digital go bust, no money coming in but debts still needing paying) simple as that to me.

Google Geoffrey Richmond but it won't make happy reading.

[northnorfolkwolf]

I remember that game, played on a Sunday lunchtime(?) - didn't we have the chance to sneak in to 6th if all the results went our way - typically they didn't! Remember feeling as gutted that day as I felt yesterday - life never changes supporting Wolves! One disappointment after another!

[Big Saft Kid]

Originally Posted by northnorfolkwolf

I remember that game, played on a Sunday lunchtime(?) - didn't we have the chance to sneak in to 6th if all the results went our way - typically they didn't! Remember feeling as gutted that day as I felt yesterday - life never changes supporting Wolves! One disappointment after another!

Yep, correct. Seem to remember Peter Beagrie on the left wing? Didn't he score one? Flo scored one off the post for us? Paul Jewell's great moment

[FMM]

Wolves were once champions of England, but ended up in the fourth division, and losing to Chorley in the F.A. Cup.

[Big Saft Kid]

Originally Posted by FMM

Wolves were once champions of England, but ended up in the fourth division, and losing to Chorley in the F.A. Cup.

They saw off Real Madrid while they were at it, who then had just won the European Cup for the 3rd time in a row. But that's worth jack-$$$$ right now.

[BlackBully]

I remember it well. I think they only needed a draw and we hit the post from a free kick whilst it was level. They hung on and I was so jealous watching them celebrate.

I never thought we'd see the day we got promoted and when it happened I was nearly in tears sitting with my dad in Cardiff. What a day.

Then the disappointment of the following season was massive and I always thought that if we made it up there again we'd make a much better fist of it. Second time round it hurts even more I think.

[N. Herts Wolf]

We lost 3-2 IIRC. It was Bully's last appearance, came on for the last 10-15 mins.

[sedgwolf1980]

Is this what we have now come to? Things are so crap at our own club, we have to compare ourselves to tinpot 4th division outfits to try and make us feel a bit better.

I understand the point being made, but personally i couldnt give a $$$$ about Bradford, Swindon, Notts County, or even Chelsea, Man U, Arsenal.

All i care about is Wolves and the i cannot stop thinking about how we seem to have messed it up yet again.

[Woodsetton Wolf]

Originally Posted by sedgwolf1980

Is this what we have now come to? Things are so crap at our own club, we have to compare ourselves to tinpot 4th division outfits to try and make us feel a bit better.

I understand the point being made, but personally i couldnt give a $$$$ about Bradford, Swindon, Notts County, or even Chelsea, Man U, Arsenal.

All i care about is Wolves and the i cannot stop thinking about how we seem to have messed it up yet again.

My sentiments exactly! We are like a script i have never known a club so predictable as us!

[Bloxwich_wolves]

Originally Posted by N. Herts Wolf

We lost 3-2 IIRC. It was Bully's last appearance, came on for the last 10-15 mins.

Not the same game mate, Bully's last appearance was against Bradford but im sure that was a midweek game.

[N. Herts Wolf]

Originally Posted by Bloxwich_wolves

Not the same game mate, Bully's last appearance was against Bradford but im sure that was a midweek game.

I'm no statto, but I'm certain it was the last game of the season with the 'traditional' 1pm Sunday KO.

[Famous Grouch]

Big signings won't come because we aren't established in the league and don't pay huge wages. The warning signs are on for those who do spend big and pay huge salaries. Maybe Wolves are the first to try a new way. Maybe we will be a yo-yo team for a few seasons but when we are established it will be on sound foundations.

[FLEET WOLF]

Perhaps wins tonight for Fulham, Stoke, Man City and Pompey (to drag Sunderland further into it) will make us all feel a little bit better!

[crocos]

Originally Posted by N. Herts Wolf

I'm no statto, but I'm certain it was the last game of the season with the 'traditional' 1pm Sunday KO.

That it was. Lovely sunny day IIRC. Harvard Flo made us dream for a while that we'd pinch 6th spot, until one of their neat players (was it Beagrie? Blake?) put two quick ones past us and that was pretty much that. Our old-timer (can't remember his name just now, went into management, was with PNE for a while) rocked the crossbar from a monster freekick at the North Bank end, but you knew it was one of those Wolves days.

I still remember their fans going wild at the end as we trudged off. I met a lot of them walking back after the game, and they seemed a decent mob the ones I spoke with at any rate.

Ah, those Colin Lee days

[N. Herts Wolf]

Originally Posted by crocos

That it was. Lovely sunny day IIRC. Harvard Flo made us dream for a while that we'd pinch 6th spot, until one of their neat players (was it Beagrie? Blake?) put two quick ones past us and that was pretty much that. Our old-timer (can't remember his name just now, went into management, was with PNE for a while) rocked the crossbar from a monster freekick at the North Bank end, but you knew it was one of those Wolves days.

I still remember their fans going wild at the end as we trudged off. I met a lot of them walking back after the game, and they seemed a decent mob the ones I spoke with at any rate.

Ah, those Colin Lee days

Paul Simpson with the FK I think.
Stopped at a MWay service station on the way back, it was full of celebrating Watford fans. Great.

Still, look what happened to them!

[crocos]

Paul Simpson, that's him.

It seemed for a while that everyone was going to come & enjoy celebrating promotion to our place!

[Dewolf]

Its like saying to a British couple, living in poverty with their kids in a council estate, it could be worse you know, you could have been born in the Sudan.

A self-answering statement, eh?...

[SaleWolf]

Originally Posted by dewolf

its like saying to a british couple, living in poverty with their kids in a council estate, it could be worse you know, you could have been born in the sudan.

A self-answering statement, eh?...

? ?