Early Bird

[Jameswwfc]

Originally Posted by Papper

He thinks it is the be all and end all. Simple - spend money and survive. It is not. It may turn out those Belgians may be worth more to the club than Hunt & Johnson.

I'll ask you this then. Would you have preferred two players who have played english football costing 8-10 million who would of improved our 1st team and wouldn't need time to settle in in a new country or 2 unknown players who might or might not actually make the 1st team. Where did sale exactly say gamble and put the club hugely in debt?

[Veins Of Old Gold]

If Wolves start the first game of the 2010-2011 season, at Molineux, in the Championship, in front of 16,500 would it spell the end for Jez Moxey?

[BridgnorthWolf Inc]

Originally Posted by petewolf

if you were on the titanic you'd be telling people to calm down, it's just a bit of rising damp.

Look at the positive side, swimming's good for the figure, you'll arive in new york all trim.

:d

[Redditch Wolves]

Papper get a grip fella I have sat next to Sale for ten years home and away and like myself we are fully behind the side hence our financial commitment to the club.

Do you really think we turn up to every game hoping we lose to get rid of McCarthy?

I don't like McCarthy (a blindman on a galloping horse can see that) but if by a miracle he proves me wrong by keeping us up I will apologise to yourself and and remaining happy clappers. I actually think the squad could keep us up but Mick can't because he is so out of his depth with tactics and team selections.

[PeteWolf]

Originally Posted by BridgnorthWolf Inc

:d

Lifeboats? You've got your expectations set way too high. We're third class passengers on this ship, be grateful for a bit of floating debris and a crappy girls film made about us in 80 years time. Just get behind the White Star Line ffs, it was floating when it left port, it'll float again, just get behind the designers and stop being so negative.

[BlackBully]

Originally Posted by Veins Of Old Gold

If Wolves start the first game of the 2010-2011 season, at Molineux, in the Championship, in front of 16,500 would it spell the end for Jez Moxey?

We can hope but I'm afraid he seems to be as slippery at keeping his job as he is at answering pertinent questions. After he scooped a huge sum from the Camara deal, the Hoddle debacle, the useless season in the top flight last time, etc, etc, etc, and he still hangs onto his job. Despite presiding over seasons of underachievement and countless broken promises.

He's in a nice position whereby he can deflect any blame below him (the manager) or above him (the owner).

[Barracudawolf]

BlackBully do you have access to Moxey's bank account? You seem to know an awful lot about his personal finances.

[Chiswick_Wolf]

Originally Posted by Barracudawolf

BlackBully do you have access to Moxey's bank account? You seem to know an awful lot about his personal finances.

They were posted with the annual accounts several times.

http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?t=8710

So we've been able to see that he got a total package of about £550k the first time we were promoted. His salary since then has been around the £300k mark and he has a company car (Jag) on top of that plus travel and other expenses. Pretty cushtey!

[Papper]

Originally Posted by PeteWolf

If you were on the Titanic you'd be telling people to calm down, it's just a bit of rising damp.

Look at the positive side, swimming's good for the figure, you'll arive in New York all trim.

It's more like Jaws, when they set sail confident that they would get the shark. Then suddenly Chief Brody exclaims " We're gonna need a bigger boat ". Eventually Brody says something like " Smile you son of a biatch " then all's well and they paddle to shore, safe and sound.

[Papper]

Originally Posted by JR WAS KING

I hoped that lessons would be learned from our last foray into the Premier League when we screwed up because apparently you can't make any plans till the end of May and all the best targets have gone by then.

Newly promoted clubs all face the same problems when it comes to signings. Johnson & Dann going into an experienced Blues side was a major coup. Hindsight is great. Bet Blues were impressed when we got Doyle & the Serb National Captain.

[BlackBully]

Originally Posted by Barracudawolf

BlackBully do you have access to Moxey's bank account? You seem to know an awful lot about his personal finances.

And not just his wages and perks as described above but in case your memory is that bad:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...onus-fury.html

[Papper]

Originally Posted by Jameswwfc

I'll ask you this then. Would you have preferred two players who have played english football costing 8-10 million who would of improved our 1st team and wouldn't need time to settle in in a new country or 2 unknown players who might or might not actually make the 1st team. Where did sale exactly say gamble and put the club hugely in debt?

I'm not a fortune teller am i. There is no guarentee ANY player will come off. Wolves have a history of buying ' the best ' and failing. You also have to take into account that they may have the money to spend but the players may not want to come. We are a small club with a hardcore support (those that'll stay with them whatever ) of appx 16,000.

[Papper]

Originally Posted by Redditch Wolves

I don't like McCarthy (a blindman on a galloping horse can see that) but if by a miracle he proves me wrong by keeping us up I will apologise to yourself and and remaining happy clappers. I actually think the squad could keep us up but Mick can't because he is so out of his depth with tactics and team selections.

I don't want an apology - it's all about opinions BUT we are where we are expected to be, not underachieving and i don't believe overachieving. Prepare yourself for a rough ride in. The poor tactician nearly beat a team with one of the best home defensive record going on Sunday - but for a couple of our players going to zzzzzzzzz with ten minutes to go.

[Jameswwfc]

Originally Posted by Papper

I don't want an apology - it's all about opinions BUT we are where we are expected to be, not underachieving and i don't believe overachieving. Prepare yourself for a rough ride in. The poor tactician nearly beat a team with one of the best home defensive record going on Sunday - but for a couple of our players going to zzzzzzzzz with ten minutes to go.

Which is why we can't set out to defend for 90 minutes as players will go to sleep now and again. Remember blues could quite easily been 2 goals up in the 1st 10 minutes.

[SaleWolf]

Thanks for the supporting posts lads. I have said time and time again, that i would have liked £8-10m spent in january on two players similar to the quality of doyle. Not asking too much imo.

[Jameswwfc]

Originally Posted by SaleWolf

Thanks for the supporting posts lads. I have said time and time again, that i would have liked £8-10m spent in january on two players similar to the quality of doyle. Not asking too much imo.

Boo sale out. He wants us to do a leeds and be playing wolves next season. Boooo

[reanswolf]

I would like us to have purchased 3 x quality players, we tried for Johnson as centre back (a key area we all identified), a quality striker (Doyle fitted the bill), and a quality midfielder. This latter area is often the hardest to acquire - they cost the earth and are few and far betweeen. Milijas was identified in the end. I suggested Campbell when he was released by Notts County but was ridiculed.

Its just frustrating, we all know the club cannot spend huge amounts but chances in the prem are few and far between. I think MM identified a number of reasonable targets that would have enabled us to stay up ( or a better chance) but we failed to compete financially.

[Bladon Wolf]

Originally Posted by SaleWolf

Thanks for the supporting posts lads. I have said time and time again, that i would have liked £8-10m spent in january on two players similar to the quality of doyle. Not asking too much imo.

No way supporting you,your still a s***

[FLEET WOLF]

Originally Posted by BlackBully

We can hope but I'm afraid he seems to be as slippery at keeping his job as he is at answering pertinent questions. After he scooped a huge sum from the Camara deal, the Hoddle debacle, the useless season in the top flight last time, etc, etc, etc, and he still hangs onto his job. Despite presiding over seasons of underachievement and countless broken promises.

He's in a nice position whereby he can deflect any blame below him (the manager) or above him (the owner).

As soon as Moxey starts aportioning blame upwards, he is well and truly out of the door, I would think.

[Veins Of Old Gold]

Originally Posted by FLEET WOLF

As soon as Moxey starts aportioning blame upwards, he is well and truly out of the door, I would think.

There is no way he would do that! He is a very clever, sly, man.

[saturday boy]

Originally Posted by Jameswwfc

I think sale like me wanted us to go and spend maybe 8-10 million in january on two new signings. Would that of put us seriously into debt?

Unless you think the club are liars this is exactly what they intended to do - it didn't come off. I don't think the club have lied so it is clear that this sort of expenditure was well within the reach of the club's finances.

We could have spent that sort of money on players that we didn't need/want to appease the fans or we could have spent less on players that were not good enough.

[Jameswwfc]

Originally Posted by saturday boy

Unless you think the club are liars this is exactly what they intended to do - it didn't come off. I don't think the club have lied so it is clear that this sort of expenditure was well within the reach of the club's finances.

We could have spent that sort of money on players that we didn't need/want to appease the fans or we could have spent less on players that were not good enough.

I do think they targeted the wrong players though, not in a position sense but neither johnson or hunt were going to come to wolves but thats a different matter.

[306NOTOUT]

3 different people told me on Wednesday night its £512 to sit in the south bank

[BridgnorthWolf Inc]

Originally Posted by 306NOTOUT

3 different people told me on Wednesday night its £512 to sit in the south bank

If that equates to between a 5 - 7% rise then that is what I have heard as well....

[PeteWolf]

Originally Posted by bridgnorthwolf inc

if that equates to between a 5 - 7% rise then that is what i have heard as well....

36%

[Netherton Wolf]

Originally Posted by BridgnorthWolf Inc

If that equates to between a 5 - 7% rise then that is what I have heard as well....

Is that 5-7% on last years early bird or Summer prices???

[306NOTOUT]

Must be 5-7% on summer prices as last march they were about £375.

[mikic]

That had better be a joke

[mikic]

I'd say at least half the crowd would struggle with £512 in the SB - I'd definitely struggle

[Jameswwfc]

I won't be going if its £512, that will be my support lost for good at home games. If i don't go then they'll lose my mrs and daughters support for the odd game. No point my daughter being a junior wolves fan if i don't go so thats more money they'll lose. Just away games for me.