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Old 15-04-2012, 17:27
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What could have been...

Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lukzW...e_gdata_player


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Old 15-04-2012, 17:31
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Didn't really want to see that. What a $$$$ up.
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Old 15-04-2012, 17:33
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Knock the $$$$er down I say.
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Old 15-04-2012, 17:36
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Speaking of what could have been, check out barnwells post game interview...

Wolves v Swindon - Feb 80 - YouTube
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Old 15-04-2012, 17:39
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&fe...&v=BcWQY8RRaHU

It's like Groudhog Day...
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Old 15-04-2012, 17:49
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Our history since 1980 really is unbelievable.

Watching the video above from the summer of 93 is heartbreaking thinking of what could have been. We just continue to well and truly screw things up time after time.
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Old 15-04-2012, 18:28
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Our history since 1980 really is unbelievable.

Watching the video above from the summer of 93 is heartbreaking thinking of what could have been. We just continue to well and truly screw things up time after time.
...and not learn from our mistakes it seems, either on or off the pitch.
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Old 15-04-2012, 18:34
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Yep, how many of the other teams back then built a stadium first and then spent on the team?

Us
Err
Err
Reading?

Who got promoted and then built a stadium once they were settled in the division?

Blackburn
Bolton
Newcastle
Sunderland
Middlesbrough?
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Old 15-04-2012, 18:42
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Our stadium back then though was depressing and while Jack was pouring millions into the stands he was also spending quite a bit on the team too. Geoff Thomas, David Kelly, Tony Daley, Steven Froggatt, Don Goodman, Kevin Keen, Simon Osborn, Steve Corica, Steve Segeley, Neil Emblem, Mark Atkins, Don Goodman....many of the players we were buying at the time were big money signings, it definitely wasn't the case that it was one or the other.

The mistakes we made back then were hanging onto a manager too long and/or sacking him at the wrong time...happened with both Turner and Taylor...and on the pitch we never really managed to sort out the defence, we won games by outscoring opponents.

I think a decent defense at any point in the 1990s and we would have left that division with ease.
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Old 15-04-2012, 18:46
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Signing Thomas, Daley, Kelly and Keen back in the summer of 93 is the equivalent of us gearing up for next seasons promotion campaign by bringing in Scott Parker, Adam Johnson, Bobby Zamora and Aaron Lennon.
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Old 15-04-2012, 18:51
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Our stadium back then though was depressing and while Jack was pouring millions into the stands he was also spending quite a bit on the team too. Geoff Thomas, David Kelly, Tony Daley, Steven Froggatt, Don Goodman, Kevin Keen, Simon Osborn, Steve Corica, Steve Segeley, Neil Emblem, Mark Atkins, Don Goodman....many of the players we were buying at the time were big money signings, it definitely wasn't the case that it was one or the other.

The mistakes we made back then were hanging onto a manager too long and/or sacking him at the wrong time...happened with both Turner and Taylor...and on the pitch we never really managed to sort out the defence, we won games by outscoring opponents.

I think a decent defense at any point in the 1990s and we would have left that division with ease.
the really big signings didn't come until after SJH rebuilt the stadium.. we had a few years of players like rob hindmarch being the major purchases... Turner had one season where he was given decent funds & that was the season he was sacked.
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Old 15-04-2012, 18:59
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Yep most of them were signed after the stadium was built.
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Old 15-04-2012, 22:40
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Signing Thomas, Daley, Kelly and Keen back in the summer of 93 is the equivalent of us gearing up for next seasons promotion campaign by bringing in Scott Parker, Adam Johnson, Bobby Zamora and Aaron Lennon.
Daley didn't come until later. Turner would have had no chance of signing such z player.

Shame about his injuries, he would have set the placd alight if he'd ever been fit long enough, especially with Froggatt
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Old 15-04-2012, 23:36
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Jez said long term vision. It's not dead yet! We'll be back.
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Old 17-04-2012, 15:35
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Our history since 1980 really is unbelievable.

Watching the video above from the summer of 93 is heartbreaking thinking of what could have been. We just continue to well and truly screw things up time after time.
I've often thought about that, but I don't think we'd have got very far to be perfectly honest even if we had got promoted. We would have had a better chance had we got promoted under Graham Taylor the following season. He would have had a better chance of keeping us up and getting us in a better place with the academy etc.

SJH splashed a lot of cash for a club in the Championship as it is now, but Blackburn bought their way to the title with 20-odd million in 94/95, but their reign was very short lived and they were soon back in the second flight. Had we gone up in 93/94, I think we were would have come straight back down.

If people think Mick was a dinosaur, I dread to think what that would have made Graham Turner. And SJH was a dinosaur of an owner who didn't really have much of a clue in terms of seeing his dream through and as for his sons.....

Some people rant about Morgan's dressing room rant, but it's certainly not going to be the first time a chairman has done something like that, or the last! Standing on the South Bank and asking whether you should sack the manager or not beggars belief though.

As has been said, the next stage is a long-term vision. It was said when we first got promoted that relegation would only ever be a minor set-back and they would be prepared for the worst...
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Old 17-04-2012, 15:47
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Jez couldn't stop rubbing his chin. Probably did that to stop himself rubbing his hands. Slimy slug.
 

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