Midfielder rumour

[shrewsburywolf]

Local rumours are that Dave Edwards, a Welsh 19yr old midfielder is in talks with Wolves about a possible move. He is on a long term contract with the Shrews but is unhappy about having a pay rise refused. He can play anywhere across the midfield and is a hot prospect.........according to my mate! Wpould cost around 250k

[wolfan]

Watching Shrewsbury fairly regularly, I'd have to say that I'd be reasonably disappointed if we did go for him, as he's never impressed me all that much. He seems to get rave reviews by the Shrewsbury fans, and I'd say he probably could step up a level to League One, but Championship really is too much imo. If we were going to go for one of their players, then I'd rather see us get Jamie Tolley, but even then, I don't think he could make the step up either.

[Simmowolf]

Jamie Tolley - you've been sniffing glue, right?

[Salop Wolf]

surely its not about wheter, at 19, he is ready for the job now, but more whether he has the potential to become a good player.

Its a bit early to judge him at 19, and if our scouts have seen something in him that suggests he might become a good player after some decent coaching (at wolves?!) then its not a great risk.

[wolfan]

Jamie Tolley - you've been sniffing glue, right?
No, out of the two I think he's a far better player, but like I say, I don't think either are good enough for this level.

[wolfan]

surely its not about wheter, at 19, he is ready for the job now, but more whether he has the potential to become a good player.

Its a bit early to judge him at 19, and if our scouts have seen something in him that suggests he might become a good player after some decent coaching (at wolves?!) then its not a great risk.
If it's potential we're looking at, then in the few dozen times I've seen him over the past couple of years, then I don't think he has it at all. For those who haven't seen him, to put it in perspective, I'd say he reminds me of a slower, less skillful Colin Cameron (and I mean Cameron of this season, not years gone by).

The only player at Shrewsbury worth looking at is Joe Hart, but then I don't think he's much better than Hennessy, and with the other keepers we've got, I can't see us going for him either.

[Simmowolf]

If it's a good young midfielder you want, go a bit further up the road to Wrexham and check out Mark Jones. Quality.
But it's going to to take decent money (money we haven't got this year), to get him.

[the_wanderer]

"The only player at Shrewsbury worth looking at is Joe Hart, but then I don't think he's much better than Hennessy" - Cannot believe you have made that statement!

[wolfan]

"The only player at Shrewsbury worth looking at is Joe Hart, but then I don't think he's much better than Hennessy" - Cannot believe you have made that statement!
Bearing in mind that I've seen both of them play a number of times, why?

[Gio Pippinardi]

I read that we were interested for a midfielder called Coke. Is he any good?

[Polak]

I see the Shrews frequently also Wolfan. Joe Hart, IMHO opinion, is well worth a look although i can't compare him to Hennesey as i have never seen the latter play. Stuart Pearce was at the Meadow earlier this season watching him. Not so sure about Tolley though, I doubt very much that he would be able to make the step up two divisions. He has a hint of the "headless chicken" about him. I'd give Edwards a go.

[Ashley]

Read on another forum( sorry!) that a guy called Marvin kamara is on his way!!!!!! think he's a midfielder at MK dons!

[brummywolf]

Read on another forum( sorry!) that a guy called Marvin kamara is on his way!!!!!! think he's a midfielder at MK dons!

Unbelievable

[Hatch End Wolf]

How the mighty have fallen! We used to be linked to Internationals, Premiership and better Championship players. Now we're reduced to getting excited about players from Shrewsbury and Franchise Dons!

[singwolf_1]

Hmmmmm where did Hibbitt come from.....? Bradford PA ! Where did Kevin Keegan come from...? Scunthorpe.....

Its not where u come from...ist where you're gonna go...

[wolfie smith]

How the mighty have fallen! We used to be linked to Internationals, Premiership and better Championship players. Now we're reduced to getting excited about players from Shrewsbury and Franchise Dons!

keep linking over paid past it internationals then, that has got us precisely where? should we go for sherringham, if we are serouusly looking at the lower leagues just like reading and every other championship team does then the management should be congratulated, if we can unearth one or two gems it will be worth it

[UNCLE REMUS]

surely its not about wheter, at 19, he is ready for the job now, but more whether he has the potential to become a good player.

Its a bit early to judge him at 19, and if our scouts have seen something in him that suggests he might become a good player after some decent coaching (at wolves?!) then its not a great risk.

If he's good enough, he's old enough.

However many players as it has been proved many times have been late maturers to the game and have usually been picked up playing in semi-pro football or lower league football.

It's a chance you take, Wolves unfortunately over the years either through bad scouting or bad coaching have never capitalised on this area.

[Hatch End Wolf]

Listen folks, it's quite simple. We don't have a man like Dario Gradi as our manager, a man with a unique talent for consistently finding "little gems" who can be coached into becoming good quality players. No, we have ****ing Hodgod and his Bro who don't appear to have any talent at all in that direction.

If Wolves are to get success whilst being run on a shoestring, which is a long-odds gamble anyway, then they need a manager with proven ability at running a club in that manner.

What we've ended up with is the worst of all worlds. Trying to run the playing side of the club on the cheap whilst having a well overpaid manager and CEO. Where's the sense in that?

[shrewsburywolf]

Listen folks, it's quite simple. We don't have a man like Dario Gradi as our manager, a man with a unique talent for consistently finding "little gems" who can be coached into becoming good quality players. No, we have ****ing Hodgod and his Bro who don't appear to have any talent at all in that direction.

If Wolves are to get success whilst being run on a shoestring, which is a long-odds gamble anyway, then they need a manager with proven ability at running a club in that manner.

What we've ended up with is the worst of all worlds. Trying to run the playing side of the club on the cheap whilst having a well overpaid manager and CEO. Where's the sense in that?

When Hoddle achieved promotion with Swindle in the early nineties, from what i remember there were not that many, if any household names in the side. Their two 'star' players were Craig Maskell (cf)?? and a real big ugly bloke that looked like a gorilla at centre half

[Wombourne Wolf]

Wolves have been watching Mark Jones at Wrexham, but he's just undergone an Op on his knee, but will be fit intime for pre-season training.

[Wombourne Wolf]

When Hoddle achieved promotion with Swindle in the early nineties, from what i remember there were not that many, if any household names in the side. Their two 'star' players were Craig Maskell (cf)?? and a real big ugly bloke that looked like a gorilla at centre half

Shaun Taylor

[shrewsburywolf]

Shaun Taylor

Thats the bloke.
My point is Hoddle may fail miserably with no funds at his disposal as he is untried and untested in that department. However he is worthy of being given the chance. He could be the new Graham Turner!

[Hatch End Wolf]

What are the chances of him repeating that miracle at Wolves. Fifteen years have gone by since that one shoestring success, he's never tried to repeat it and is only being forced to try now because no other club wants him.

We are depending on a man with a reputation for extreme arrogance knuckling down to the hard grind of finding and coaching unknowns, cast-offs and failures at other clubs. He also has to change his whole philosophy and play to the strengths of the players he's got and not pretend he's coaching Brazil! The odds are much more in favour of us living through another Bhatti era than achieving a Swindle type miracle. By the way, where are they now?

[shrewsburywolf]

If it's a good young midfielder you want, go a bit further up the road to Wrexham and check out Mark Jones. Quality.
But it's going to to take decent money (money we haven't got this year), to get him.
or this guy, who turned down Man U, local lad with a very good attitude

http://www.crewealex.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Squad/first_team_profiles/0,,10414~27522,00.html?ptvParm=

[shrewsburywolf]

What are the chances of him repeating that miracle at Wolves. Fifteen years have gone by since that one shoestring success, he's never tried to repeat it and is only being forced to try now because no other club wants him.

We are depending on a man with a reputation for extreme arrogance knuckling down to the hard grind of finding and coaching unknowns, cast-offs and failures at other clubs. He also has to change his whole philosophy and play to the strengths of the players he's got and not pretend he's coaching Brazil! The odds are much more in favour of us living through another Bhatti era than achieving a Swindle type miracle. By the way, where are they now?

They play in the 2nd division, Hardly Hoddle's fault?
However i take your point a betting man would not back Hoddle to achieve success as would anyone back any manager to get us promoted. shoestring budget or not, history speaks for itself.
The fact of the matter is next season is going to be one of the hardest leagues in a long time, teams will be taking points off each other left right and centre and for the first time in ages the pressure will be on other sides. We should take advantage of this. Create a sound work ethic and get on with our business quietly.

[wolfan]

I see the Shrews frequently also Wolfan. Joe Hart, IMHO opinion, is well worth a look although i can't compare him to Hennesey as i have never seen the latter play. Stuart Pearce was at the Meadow earlier this season watching him. Not so sure about Tolley though, I doubt very much that he would be able to make the step up two divisions. He has a hint of the "headless chicken" about him. I'd give Edwards a go.
I think he will go onto big things, certainly making his name in the Premiership, but for all the hype, I don't think he's that good, certainly not any better than say Matt Murray was when he came through, and MM was playing against better players as well. As for Wayne Hennessey, every time I've seen him play, he has impressed me, and given the need to save money, I'd be quite happy to overlook Hart in favour of him and Murray.

For Tolley, I know what you mean about headless chicken, and as I said, I don't think he's good enough for the Championship, but I just don't see what the fuss about Dave Edwards is, especially when you take into account the level that he's been playing at. At best he might do a job for a team like Crewe, who have had a good season if they've survived, but for a team that should be challenging for the play-offs, I just can't see him being good enough, either now or in the future. From what I've seen, a recurring theme with lower league players that show promise is that the fans of the smaller clubs tend to vastly overrate their ability, and Edwards fits right into that category, as did/does Luke Rodgers, who should have been playing for England if you'd have listened to the Shrewsbury fans!

[Stewarton Wolf]

When Hoddle achieved promotion with Swindle in the early nineties, from what i remember there were not that many, if any household names in the side. Their two 'star' players were Craig Maskell (cf)?? and a real big ugly bloke that looked like a gorilla at centre half

Hoddle achieved promotion with Swindon because he played sweeper and almost got them up single handedly.

[brummywolf]

There is some talent in the lower leagues, its having the guts to make a move for them. Wolves have been too scared that the player will turn out $$$$ and the fans will complain about why we are signing crap from the lower leagues.

This year we have to bite the bullet and get a couple in. We missed out a treat on Whalley who cost Preston a few hundred grand in January.

There is surely more out there but it is up to us to discover them and take a plunge!! As I've mentioned before my suggestion would be either of the Conference wingers George Boyd (Stevenage) and Marcus Kelly (Rushden).

[brummywolf]

Hoddle achieved promotion with Swindon because he played sweeper and almost got them up single handedly.

I'm sure he played a pivotal role but to use the cliche, one man doesnt make a team. If that were true, Merson would have thrived at Walsall- as a player he was way out of his league at the Bescott, you could tell that instantly.

[Stewarton Wolf]

I'm sure he played a pivotal role but to use the cliche, one man doesnt make a team. If that were true, Merson would have thrived at Walsall- as a player he was way out of his league at the Bescott, you could tell that instantly.
Merson was a lot older and had allowed his body to experience excesses that the younger Hoddle never did. Also Hoddle was bright enough to understand that he couldnt play centre midfield so dropped back allowing more space and time on the ball and recovery time during the game.