View Full Version : Can we have some good news please.
Essex Wolf
12-05-2006, 14:51
McLeod (http://www.newsnow.co.uk/cgi/NGoto/142206046?-300)
Some may well not be the slightest bothered if McLeod didn't join us and I'm very 50/50 myself right now as opposed to my initial excitement when his name was first mentioned months back.
That said I'm getting the feeling right now that Wolves and good news just don't go together.
Players leaving by the boat load, others looking likely to go due to reduced contract offers and possible targets now looking unlikely.
Is there any good news?:(
Bill McCai
12-05-2006, 14:53
Yes, there is indeed. You have just reaffirmed yourself as one of our thickest fans with your 'Goodness' thread!
Visage Wolf
12-05-2006, 14:54
McLeod (http://www.newsnow.co.uk/cgi/NGoto/142206046?-300)
Some may well not be the slightest bothered if McLeod didn't join us and I'm very 50/50 myself right now as opposed to my initial excitement when his name was first mentioned months back.
That said I'm getting the feeling right now that Wolves and good news just don't go together.
Players leaving by the boat load, others looking likely to go due to reduced contract offers and possible targets now looking unlikely.
Is there any good news?:(
What are you on?
Dropping out of the race for a player because we cant afford him is *very* good news - it means we dont over spend on under-acheivers.
The days where we routinely blew 1m+ on useless players are OVER. And its a cause for celebration, IMO.
PREM.L.L
12-05-2006, 14:55
Essex by "boat load" do you mean 4 or 5??
Deutsch Wolf
12-05-2006, 14:56
What are you on?
Dropping out of the race for a player because we cant afford him is *very* good news - it means we dont over spend on under-acheivers.
The days where we routinely blew 1m+ on useless players are OVER. And its a cause for celebration, IMO.
No, no, no, you've got it all wrong. Despite the fact that we're on a vastly reduced income, we have to continue to spend like there's no tomorrow just to appease people who think that the club want to aimlessly drift in the Championship forever. We should then follow that up by retaining ineffective, expensive 38-year-olds, while acknowledging that they won't play more than 50% of the games in a season.
scottishwolf II
12-05-2006, 14:59
rubbish past it players leaving by the boat load,
agree with you on that - lets keep on shipping them out and off the pay roll
Essex Wolf
12-05-2006, 15:13
Essex by "boat load" do you mean 4 or 5??
It's already past that figure PLL.
Postma, Ross, Anderton, Ganea, Miller, Ndah, Aliadiere with the possibility of more besides.
Again certain posters, the stalker in particular leap in feet first with assumptions.
Never have I said we should pump vast amounts of money in but if squad reduction carries on as it is then the club won't need to worry about funds in the CCC but Div1.
Deutsch Wolf
12-05-2006, 15:16
Did you say yesterday that SJH should pump more money into the club, and that what he'd invested so far wasn't much considering how wealthy he is?
Yes.
Do you think we should keep Ince, even though you admit that he's nothing like the player he was and he won't play more than 20 games?
Yes.
I rest my case. And as I said yesterday, you calling me a stalker doesn't mask your stupidity.
PREM.L.L
12-05-2006, 15:17
Yeah but we've back up for Postma. Ross i'll give you but we've back up there aswell. Ganea played verually no part. Ditto Ndah.
The only real losses so far are Miller (at this level) but mostly Aliadiere.
Calm down lad even the lump hammer in charge knows he has to bring some players in.
Spa Wolf
12-05-2006, 15:19
Only another 12 weeks of this to go!
Essex, i think it's safe to assume that wolves will be signing a few players over the coming weeks. first of all they need to see if those who are still here want to saty on reduced terms. if they move on then replacements will be bought in. we've already been linked with 3 or 4 players over the past few weeks.
Only another 12 weeks of this to go!
Essex, i think it's safe to assume that wolves will be signing a few players over the coming weeks. first of all they need to see if those who are still here want to saty on reduced terms. if they move on then replacements will be bought in. we've already been linked with 3 or 4 players over the past few weeks.
have we??????
Good news
I just boned this bit of skirt up the dirtbox during my lunchbreak!!!
Essex Wolf
12-05-2006, 15:36
DW, yes I feel SJH should continue backing the club if he is a supporter, that's what supporters do. I never said I expected him to throw in multi millions did I but these cut bcks could go too far.
PLL, I tend to agree only a few of the players leaving will be a loss but at the rate things are going we won't have a squad to compete for mid table.
Liar.
My cok doesn't lie!!!!!!
Deutsch Wolf
12-05-2006, 15:38
DW, yes I feel SJH should continue backing the club if he is a supporter, that's what supporters do. I never said I expected him to throw in multi millions did I but these cut bcks could go too far.
How much should he invest this summer, then?
Visage Wolf
12-05-2006, 15:38
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Malicious Steve
12-05-2006, 15:41
Good news
I just boned this bit of skirt up the dirtbox during my lunchbreak!!!
I'm all for the new improved pc MolMix...
scottishwolf II
12-05-2006, 15:41
It's already past that figure PLL.
Postma, Ross, Anderton, Ganea, Miller, Ndah, Aliadiere with the possibility of more besides.
.
but essex look at who these players are surely?
postma - murray is fit again so get rid as we have far too many keepers
ross - we have plenty of cover in that area, so sadly dont need him when we need to trim the wage bill
anderton - youre suggesting he is a loss? most people would have loved to see him leave a lot earlier
ganea - not the same player post-injury it, minimal involvement this season apart from being disruptive
miller - yep a loss, give you that
ndah - hang on is this the same chap who you have argued we should cut loose in the summer for the last 2 years??
aliadiere - er he was on loan with us. yes a loss, but he was never going to be here
so - the big loss was miller so far, and without aliadiere we probably need another striker. the rest of em can get their fat lazy asses off our payroll imho
PREM.L.L
12-05-2006, 15:41
He could spend his entire fortune and unless he buys the Chelsea first team there's no way Hoddles tactics are going to work.
Better to stick to young scrappers in our current situation.......oh and Incey of course.
What are you on?
Dropping out of the race for a player because we cant afford him is *very* good news
Let me get this right, all the teams that got promoted or reached the play-off final this year spent at least half a million on a striker this season. We can't afford to do that. And that is *very* good news?
More good news!!!!!!
I made sure she sucked it clean for me before I told her to do one!!!!
paddingtonwolf
12-05-2006, 15:45
we spent £1.4million on a striker, didn't we?
Malicious Steve
12-05-2006, 15:55
More good news!!!!!!
I made sure she sucked it clean for me before I told her to do one!!!!
"Mid" "life" and "crisis" spring to mind..
Essex Wolf
12-05-2006, 16:03
SWII, I don't disagree with a word you have said about the players you list but my concern is that he squad will go from being a large one that contained a lot of uninterested deadwood to one far too small lacking enough experience and/or cover. I don't think expecting a balance somewhere in the middle is so hard to expect.
DW, how much you ask, well that is all very much dependant on how much SJH wants the club to be successful and/or if he has any interest still left.
Seeing as he won't be putting any money in, at this time, I can only hazard a guess he isn't too bothered but if a couple of million could aid the manager in bringing in 2-3 new players that are up and coming then I'd say a couple of million.
I accept there has to be a cut off point but to cut it altogether just seems strange when I think back to all SJH's talk of Europe, winning cups, establishing ourselves in the Prem etc etc. And what if we fans took the same attitude?
paddingtonwolf
12-05-2006, 16:03
cut him some slack - he's obviously been thumbing through FHM again
Deutsch Wolf
12-05-2006, 16:05
DW, how much you ask, well that is all very much dependant on how much SJH wants the club to be successful and/or if he has any interest still left.
Seeing as he won't be putting any money in, at this time, I can only hazard a guess he isn't too bothered but if a couple of million could aid the manager in bringing in 2-3 new players that are up and coming then I'd say a couple of million.
The scary thing is how you talk about a couple of million as if it were loose change.
I don't see how giving Glenn Hoddle £2m to spend would particularly help our prospects next season.
scottishwolf II
12-05-2006, 16:08
SWII, I don't disagree with a word you have said about the players you list but my concern is that he squad will go from being a large one that contained a lot of uninterested deadwood to one far too small lacking enough experience and/or cover. I don't think expecting a balance somewhere in the middle is so hard to expect.
so you agree then that overall we have so far lost one player (miller) who was important to the team and one loan alidiare. and the rest - who cares? personally i put cameron in that junk heap as well, and for me it improves the squad frankly getting rid of them all!
i think they are doing a good job here getting rid of a load of wasters we don't need. more power to them.
Essex Wolf
12-05-2006, 16:13
DW, a couple of million to someone of SJH's wealth is not a massive amount but hat's another issue.
As for giving GH a couple of million to spend, well giving him that extra £2M on top of whatever his budget is would make a whole load of difference when it came to player hunting/signings but seeing as it appears he won't be getting that amount it's impossible to say but having that couple of million he could do a damn site more with it than what he has right now?
SW, yes but we have to be careful the cull doesn't go too far and that is my concern.
Cost cut and unload the rubbish by all means but take it steady and sensibly. Reducing the squad too much to fast could see us right up $$$$$$ creek if no new faces come in with only weeks to go before a new season starts.
Brizzlewolf
12-05-2006, 16:19
More good news!!!!!!
I made sure she sucked it clean for me before I told her to do one!!!!
I think I know what you're currently bashing, Basher.
Deutsch Wolf
12-05-2006, 16:23
DW, a couple of million to someone of SJH's wealth is not a massive amount but hat's another issue.
As for giving GH a couple of million to spend, well giving him that extra £2M on top of whatever his budget is would make a whole load of difference when it came to player hunting/signings but seeing as it appears he won't be getting that amount it's impossible to say but having that couple of million he could do a damn site more with it than what he has right now?
Think about what you're saying. Think how much money £2m actually is, then tell me you'd gladly fritter it away, regardless of how much money you had in the bank. Where has spending money got us in the past? Not that far.
Glenn Hoddle's one major signing since coming to Wolves has so far netted no goals in 17 appearances. At Spurs, he paid £5m for Goran Bunjevcevic, £8.3m for Dean Richards and £8.5m for Helder Postiga. That's why I'm not concerned that we won't be giving him much to spend.
scottishwolf II
12-05-2006, 16:28
SW, yes but we have to be careful the cull doesn't go too far and that is my concern.
Cost cut and unload the rubbish by all means but take it steady and sensibly. Reducing the squad too much to fast could see us right up $$$$$$ creek if no new faces come in with only weeks to go before a new season starts.
so currently there is no problem then? is that what youre saying?
Brizzlewolf
12-05-2006, 16:35
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Cost cut and unload the rubbish by all means but take it steady and sensibly. Reducing the squad too much to fast could see us right up $$$$$$ creek if no new faces come in with only weeks to go before a new season starts.[/QUOTE]
This may be a huge leap of faith but I would guess there is a strategy here and it probably revolves around the sale of J-Lo when funds will be available to bring the new faces in whether through wages or transfer fees.
HIGHLANDER
12-05-2006, 16:35
Did you say yesterday that SJH should pump more money into the club, and that what he'd invested so far wasn't much considering how wealthy he is?
Yes.
Do you think we should keep Ince, even though you admit that he's nothing like the player he was and he won't play more than 20 games?
Yes.
I rest my case. And as I said yesterday, you calling me a stalker doesn't mask your stupidity.Watch it Essex or you'll end up like me and on his ignore list.....A fate worse than death..
Brizzlewolf
12-05-2006, 16:36
Cost cut and unload the rubbish by all means but take it steady and sensibly. Reducing the squad too much to fast could see us right up $$$$$$ creek if no new faces come in with only weeks to go before a new season starts.[/QUOTE]
This may be a huge leap of faith but I would guess there is a strategy here and it probably revolves around the sale of J-Lo when funds will be available to bring the new faces in whether through wages or transfer fees.
Gio Pippinardi
12-05-2006, 18:18
The good news for me is that we are very near (according to Sky sports) to sign Rosa. We need him and he wants to play for GH.Good news!
Good news. Try todays cricket
The Weasel
12-05-2006, 18:35
More good news!!!!!!
I made sure she sucked it clean for me before I told her to do one!!!!
At which point you said "thanks mum you can pop yer teeth back in now love" ;):D
wolfie smith
12-05-2006, 19:03
Good news
I just boned this bit of skirt up the dirtbox during my lunchbreak!!!
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is this her??????????
nice skirt mate
Visage Wolf
12-05-2006, 19:19
Let me get this right, all the teams that got promoted or reached the play-off final this year spent at least half a million on a striker this season. We can't afford to do that. And that is *very* good news?
We spent 1.4m of Frankowski, after spending 2m on Cort. Where did that get us?
Visage Wolf
12-05-2006, 19:20
DW, a couple of million to someone of SJH's wealth is not a massive amount but hat's another issue.
As for giving GH a couple of million to spend, well giving him that extra £2M on top of whatever his budget is would make a whole load of difference when it came to player hunting/signings but seeing as it appears he won't be getting that amount it's impossible to say but having that couple of million he could do a damn site more with it than what he has right now?
SW, yes but we have to be careful the cull doesn't go too far and that is my concern.
Cost cut and unload the rubbish by all means but take it steady and sensibly. Reducing the squad too much to fast could see us right up $$$$$$ creek if no new faces come in with only weeks to go before a new season starts.
Given that 10 years of spending more than anyone else in the league has acheived $$$$ all, why do you think its vital that we spend money? Why will spening money this season work when it didnt last season, or the season before that, or the season before that etc....
Hatch End Wolf
12-05-2006, 19:53
Spending nothing, if you have a manager like Dario Gradi, is a gamble, but not half as big a gamble as it is when you've got Hod as your manager! There is nothing about the way this man manages that suggests he can work with even lower quality players than he's had for the last season and a half.
Also, there seems to be a severe misapprehension amongst some fans on this forum. I appreciate that a number of managers have wasted Sir Jack's money. but face facts, clubs that spend nothing rarely win anything. Even the great Sir Stan Cullis bought players into the club dispite the myth that success was entirely due to "home grown" talent.
Football is not a business in any normal sense. Very few clubs ever make a paper profit, but little clubs with no money are generally to be found in the lower two divisions ( or Conference! ). We've been there, I didn't enjoy it ( until we signed Bully and started the long climb back of course ).
Finally, if Wolves are financially troubled, can't afford players, how come we can afford to pay ( overpay ) the Hod more than any other manager in the division and also pay ( overpay ) Fat moxey more than any other CEO in the division? there's nearly £1M for a start we can't afford!!
HEW,
I agree, you need a manager that can spot talent that is available on the cheap and we don't currently have such a manager. It's supremely ironic that we pay such a large amount of money for a CEO to tell us that we are broke and a manager who tells us that we are unlikely to challenge for promotion under his leadership.
Nice work if you can get it.
BTW I don't know what would consitute good news for Essex Wolf, I've read some of his posts over the last 5 years on this forum and the one before it and I've never known him treat anything as good news. He moaned during a decent season when we just missed promotion, he moaned even more the following season when we did get promoted and obviously he moaned even more when we were in the Prem and heading for relegation.
Hawkins discuss
12-05-2006, 20:17
H E w said
" Football is not a business in any normal sense. Very few clubs ever make a paper profit, but little clubs with no money are generally to be found in the lower two divisions ( or Conference! ). We've been there, I didn't enjoy it ( until we signed Bully and started the long climb back of course )."
How much did Bull cost?
Hatch End Wolf
12-05-2006, 20:27
£65,000, I think, but that was a long long time ago. Also we only got him so cheaply because "he didn't have a good first touch!"
Of course, as we all know, this was indeed true..............but then he usually scored with his second touch!!!!. Again, and again, and again, and again, and..............................
Whatever happened to Mr.Saunders?
OldWolvesfart
12-05-2006, 22:05
McLeod (http://www.newsnow.co.uk/cgi/NGoto/142206046?-300)
Some may well not be the slightest bothered if McLeod didn't join us and I'm very 50/50 myself right now as opposed to my initial excitement when his name was first mentioned months back.
That said I'm getting the feeling right now that Wolves and good news just don't go together.
Players leaving by the boat load, others looking likely to go due to reduced contract offers and possible targets now looking unlikely.
Is there any good news?:(
Heres the good news - 16 teams finished below us this season including :-
Coventry, Norwich, Cardiff, Southampton, Ipswich, Leicester ----- ------
Some really good news.
The Ultra Violet lamp on my Koi pool is now working and making the water clearer. It's becoming so clear that SJH is popping round with his poppish son in tow to show him how it's done.
Oh and JM is arriving later for the pork spare ribs marinated in smoked BBQ sauce, which are a specialty of mine.
I would have liked the 'Wolves Parliament' to have attended but unfortunatley:
A/ SJH was not sure who they were. (Bless, it's his age)
B/ Poppish son (Rick) said that football types put him off his food.
C/ JM said "they are not having shares in the ribs!"
Can't get better news than that.
TheDarkside
13-05-2006, 00:17
What are you on?
Dropping out of the race for a player because we cant afford him is *very* good news - it means we dont over spend on under-acheivers.
The days where we routinely blew 1m+ on useless players are OVER. And its a cause for celebration, IMO.
So lets try to understand what VW is saying.
We now can't compete with such giants as Cardiff and Stoke. This is a cause for celebration. :confused:
Black Suit
13-05-2006, 06:53
The Black Country Derby is back lads! Can't wait until 22/6/06 to find out when we play the buggers.
Hatch End Wolf
13-05-2006, 10:36
Sorry Black Suit, but I think the Black Country Derbies are going to be an embarassment for us next season.
Essex Wolf
13-05-2006, 11:05
so currently there is no problem then? is that what youre saying?
Depends on your view point of things I suppose.
The squad is already 7 players lighter right now and it looks a good possibility that CC could be leaving whilst there is the risk of others besides.
Most of those that have left and/or will leave doesn't bother me because they have either not been that instrumental in the team or weren't a lot of use if they were but if the squad reduction carries on with little action the other way I just fear any chance of competing will be gone.
Professional
13-05-2006, 11:27
Essex- we aren't going to compete next season at all, it is plainly obvious.
Looks like the club plan is to survive for the next couple of seasons, and then when the youngsters start to impose themselves- have a push on then when the finances are stable.
Given that 10 years of spending more than anyone else in the league has acheived $$$$ all, why do you think its vital that we spend money? Why will spening money this season work when it didnt last season, or the season before that, or the season before that etc....
You usually have to spend a decent amount of money for a striker and £1.5 million sounds about right for McLeod, but we should have bought him in January instead of Frankowski, who at 31 never represented a sound investment.
