Izale Mcleod

[GAWAZZ]

Although i missed wolves goals as i failed to wake in time they showed a bit of the English football league under 21's against the Italian equivilant and guess who produced a man of the match display! Exactly young Izale who has now been called up for the england under 21's! I just have a feeling that the £600,000 we could have got him for would have been a snip.


It just makes it worse when i see the player we bought instead Frankie the pole!

[Wombourne Wolf]

I agree - after seeing the highlights of that game £600K would of been a snip and to have his pace in the side or coming off the bench would be such a bonus.

[Essex Wolf]

Unless Wolves end up signing McLeod in the future it will be impossible to tell if he will/would ever be any good for us anyway. As it is he is the 7th highest scorer in Div1 with 15 goals and the performance in 1 game doesn't mean he would have been the player for us.


Personally I was hoping Wolves would have signed him ashe is a player for the present and future whilst Frankowski is short term as far as I see things.


However if McLeod was so good why is it Wolves were the only club to seemingly show any real interest??

[Markwolf]

That is like asking, how many people were interested in Doyle?

[Essex Wolf]

But we are talking about McLeod.

[EasternWolf]

Unless Wolves end up signing McLeod in the future it will be impossible to tell if he will/would ever be any good for us anyway. As it is he is the 7th highest scorer in Div1 with 15 goals and the performance in 1 game doesn't mean he would have been the player for us.


Personally I was hoping Wolves would have signed him ashe is a player for the present and future whilst Frankowski is short term as far as I see things.


However if McLeod was so good why is it Wolves were the only club to seemingly show any real interest??





I have it on good authority that it is down to attitude

[Bolton Hater]

I wanted us to sign McLeod - But I'm happy with how Frankowski has started so I won't start screaming for his signing yet.

[Essex Wolf]

Unless Wolves end up signing McLeod in the future it will be impossible to tell if he will/would ever be any good for us anyway. As it is he is the 7th highest scorer in Div1 with 15 goals and the performance in 1 game doesn't mean he would have been the player for us.


Personally I was hoping Wolves would have signed him ashe is a player for the present and future whilst Frankowski is short term as far as I see things.


However if McLeod was so good why is it Wolves were the only club to seemingly show any real interest??





I have it on good authority that it is down to attitude





So maybe a wise decision after all not to sign him?

[Jamboon]

I wanted us to sign McLeod - But I'm happy with how Frankowski has started so I won't start screaming for his signing yet.


Why?

[Bumbamuffin]

I wanted us to sign McLeod - But I'm happy with how Frankowski has started so I won't start screaming for his signing yet.


Why?





Because we spent all our remainingtransfer fundson him and it's not that pleasant to admit it's looking like another expensive waste of money.

[Natka]

I wanted us to sign McLeod - But I'm happy with how Frankowski has started so I won't start screaming for his signing yet.


Why?





Because we spent all our remaining$transfer funds$on him and it's not that pleasant to admit it's looking like another expensive waste of money.
An you can tell it after 4 games......

[Essex Wolf]

I believe Frankowski will be a very good player for us once he finds his way and settles in.


At present the formation isn't helping but with time, I hope, this will not present a problem.


Still feel the club paid too much for him taking into account his age etc but only time will tell whether he was the last piece of the jigsaw.Just now he seems part of the wrong puzzle but just look how things have changed over a couple of weeks.

[Bolton Hater]

I wanted us to sign McLeod - But I'm happy with how Frankowski has started so I won't start screaming for his signing yet.


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[Zigzag Wanderer]

However if McLeod was so good why is it Wolves were the only club to seemingly show any real interest??





Er, maybe not any more. We had a clear run, &amp; could have taken a chance like Blues did for D J Campbell. The more decent performances he puts in for the U21s, the higher his price will go. Would the player even want to come to us now, after the way we messed him about?

[Jamboon]

Not many clubs came in for Darren Bent when Charlton snapped him up smileys/smiley22.gif

[whitemouse75]

frannie jeffers used to bang them in for the U21's too. naylor played for them as did craddock. at least we snapped up 2 of those 3.

[Essex Wolf]

However if McLeod was so good why is it Wolves were the only club to seemingly show any real interest??





Er, maybe not any more. We had a clear run, &amp; could have taken a chance like Blues did for D J Campbell. The more decent performances he puts in for the U21s, the higher his price will go. Would the player even want to come to us now, after the way we messed him about?





ZZW, as I recall wasn't it the MK Dons that were messing Wolves about hence they looked elsewhere.


Wolves made an offer the Dons declined and they then came back saying they would accept the offer some days later.I wouldn't say that indicated a clear run at things or that Wolves messed him about.


Edited by: Essex Wolf

[gordonchas]

Gentlemen, when assessing the performance of Izale McLeod in a fairly tepid representative match at home, you also have to remember that this was against the U21's of Serie B- therefore not the ultra-high-quality oppostion of the Championship. Surely everyone knows that the 2nd tier of all leagues except the English one is merely equivalent to Hednesford Town? I thought this was now an established fact on Molineux Mix?

[whitemouse75]

FACT.

[Zigzag Wanderer]

[QUOTE=Essex Wolf


ZZW, as I recall wasn't it the MK Dons that were messing Wolves about hence they looked elsewhere.


Wolves made an offer the Dons declined and they then came back saying they would accept the offer some days later.I wouldn't say that indicated a clear run at things or that Wolves messed him about.





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I don't think it was ever as clear cut as that &amp; I don't suppose we'll ever find out. But the E&amp;S stated in January that MK had verbally accepted Wolves' offer but were then surprised that Wolves never actually tried to discuss personal terms etc with McLeod, a player who had made himself unpopular locally by clearly showing a commitment to joining Wolves. Maybe Franko was the main target &amp; McLeod was just a secondary option that Moxey tried to keep going for as long as possible. Hoddle did clearly say they might still go back for Mcleod if the Franko deal fell through.


In rejecting Wolves' previous offers, MK were acting no differently to Elche, who categorically stated they didn't want to lose the striker. In any negotiation, it's rare that the first offer will be accepted.


In truth, I think McLeod was messed about by both clubs. Having geared himself up to furthering his career by joining Wolves, MK then stalled for as much money as they could, during which time it became clear McLeod was not the main target but merely a fallback position.


I just think that if we ever did renew our interest, by dillydallying initially we will probably face more competition for his signature &amp; a higher price-tag; plus a very wary player more reluctant to join us than he was in January. There just doesn't seem to be a lot of forethought &amp; forward planning going on with regard to the club's future.

[Essex Wolf]

I agree we will never find out the exact truth behind the McLeod deal but for a change I'm not going to blame Wolves for messing up a deal. They may have not helped things along but this was far from a clear cut deal early on and I got the impression the Dons were trying to squeeze us for more money. When Wolves blew them out second thoughts come into things and by the time they had made a decision things had moved on with Frankowski.


As to whether TF was our 1st target, again will we ever know?


You are possibly right re McLeod's price raising but can't see it going sky high because he is unproven outside Div1 to date and do we need him now anyway?Edited by: Essex Wolf

[whitemouse75]

i hope we NEVER sign him. how did he, along with the two derby freaks last season, become some kind of world-class superplayer on here?


get a grip.

[Zigzag Wanderer]

how did he, along with the two derby freaks last season, become some kind of world-class superplayer on here?





Sadly not many of those in Wolves' price range these days. And despite the averageness of the players mentioned, they all chose a relegation struggle at financially dodgy clubs or reserve team football instead of joining Wolves.

[Kenny-11]

how did he, along with the two derby freaks last season, become some kind of world-class superplayer on here?





Sadly not many of those in Wolves' price range these days. And despite the averageness of the players mentioned, they all chose a relegation struggle at financially dodgy clubs or reserve team football instead of joining Wolves.





Not exactly true. The 3 players being mentioned were not targets before they joined the financially dodgy clubs. We were not allowed to speak to Idiakez so we have no idea if you wanted to play for us, same with McCleod and Rasiak chose Spurs over us.

[whitemouse75]

and none of the 3 have previously impressed, or gone on to do so.

[Davebull]

Surely the point is if we had brought Mcleod and he had gone in the team, done nothing for four games and scored no goals, we could use the excuse ( an indeed justify the purchase ), that he is not quite the finished article but has time on his side etc etc, plenty of time to develop and at least he is very fast !


This is not an option for Frankowski because of his age, this is not frankowski's fault who I am still hopeful will do good things for us, but it just highlights what a ridiculous purchase he was in the first place.


1.4m fora 31 year old who looks to be now fourth choice striker is just a complete joke.

[holloholloway]

and furthermore, mcleod would have cost a mere 600,000 downpayment. 800,000 cheaper. We have a 30 days money back guarantee though on frankowski and i hope we'll inact this and send him back to elche. The item we purchased is faulty.

[whitemouse75]

nothing wrong with franky. his positioning is great, in a 442 he'd have outscored miller by now.





FACT.

[Bumbamuffin]

Surely the point is if we had brought Mcleod and he had gone in the team, done nothing for four games and scored no goals, we could use the excuse ( an indeed justify the purchase ), that he is not quite the finished article but has time on his side etc etc, plenty of time to develop and at least he is very fast !


This is not an option for Frankowski because of his age, this is not frankowski's fault who I am still hopeful will do good things for us, but it just highlights what a ridiculous purchase he was in the first place.


1.4m fora 31 year old who looks to be now fourth choice striker is just a complete joke.








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We've had our fingers burnt so many times by going for the 'Frankowski' option -the 'proven' quick fix that hasn't worked.Add into this that nowadays money is much tighter-indeed this was the last of our Sky subsidisedfunds-and you're right,the purchase was a complete joke.


We've now spent £1.4 million on a striker but are more reliant on a loan playerwho will disappear at the end of the season.This is because the latter has the attributes we really needed up front-very quick &amp; direct.With this in mind,IMO McCleod probably would have been the better option.