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willenhall wulf
22-07-2005, 14:20
My wife works with the daughter-in-law of the great 50’s Wolves player Peter Broadbent. These days Peter is not too well and suffers from a very bad form of Alzheimer’s disease and is now in a care home. Like most ex-players from that era he is not a wealthy man and to support himself and ensure that his wife can remain in their home he is being forced to sell all of his cherished mementos from his days with the Wolves.
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He has always been a willing participant in representing Wolves at various events, for example coming onto the pitch last season and book signings, and yet he has never received any financial support from either the Wolves or the PFA. I personally think that this is disgusting and if anyone connected with the club should read this I hope that they might have the decency to do something to help an ex-player in his hour of need. <U style="text-underline: words">[/u]
Stan Cutlass
22-07-2005, 14:26
Good post Will.
I know Wolves ex-players association are doing all they can, so please dont assume nothing is being done. Care homes, through family experience, are notoriously expensive (£1000 + per week, depending on situation)
It's a horrible situation for him and his family though.
St.Simon
22-07-2005, 14:27
I have many good memories of Peter Broadbent, a superb footballer, and it is very sad to hear that he is suffering from Alzheimers.
WW what do you suggest, a whip round from the MM members? I will happily contribute. What memorabilia is being sold, and where / how is it being sold?
goldeneyed
22-07-2005, 14:28
Why don't you write to Sir Jack directly? I can't believe that he would not be willing to help out such a brilliant Wolves servant in his hour of need. Surely a match could be arranged to raise funds for him.
Very sad to hear that he is in such a state. I never had the privilege of seeing him in the flesh but from old newsreels and the stories you hearit is obvious he was a brilliant playmaker and had a key role in our 50s success. Wolves through and through. He deserves our support and I would certainly be willing to make a contribution to any fund that might be set up. I hope many others here would agree with me.
willenhall wulf
22-07-2005, 14:29
Good post Will.
I know Wolves ex-players association are doing all they can, so please dont assume nothing is being done. Care homes, through family experience, are notoriously expensive (£1000 + per week, depending on situation)
It's a horrible situation for him and his family though.
...is the association anything to do with the club ?
Stan Cutlass
22-07-2005, 14:29
Any chance we can make this a Sticky please Xtra???
willenhall wulf
22-07-2005, 14:30
Why don't you write to Sir Jack directly? I can't believe that he would not be willing to help out such a brilliant Wolves servant in his hour of need. Surely a match could be arranged to raise funds for him.
Very sad to hear that he is in such a state. I never had the privilege of seeing him in the flesh but from old newsreels and the stories you hearit is obvious he was a brilliant playmaker and had a key role in our 50s success. Wolves through and through. He deserves our support and I would certainly be willing to make a contribution to any fund that might be set up. I hope many others here would agree with me.
I had thought about Sir Jack. Is there an easy route to him ?
willenhall wulf
22-07-2005, 14:30
I have many good memories of Peter Broadbent, a superb footballer, and it is very sad to hear that he is suffering from Alzheimers.
WW what do you suggest, a whip round from the MM members? I will happily contribute. What memorabilia is being sold, and where / how is it being sold?
Auctions.
Stan Cutlass
22-07-2005, 14:31
Good post Will.
I know Wolves ex-players association are doing all they can, so please dont assume nothing is being done. Care homes, through family experience, are notoriously expensive (£1000 + per week, depending on situation)
It's a horrible situation for him and his family though.
...is the association anything to do with the club ?
It has links, they get tickets etc... I'm sure it was those who arranged the charity evening for Frank Munro - which made a decent amount of cash for him and his family.
Whether they physically can help though, without fans support etc, i'd seriously doubt.
willenhall wulf
22-07-2005, 14:32
[QUOTE=St.Simon]
I have many good memories of Peter Broadbent, a superb footballer, and it is very sad to hear that he is suffering from Alzheimers.
WW what do you suggest, a whip round from the MM members? I will happily contribute. What memorabilia is being sold, and where / how is it being sold?
I hadn't really thought of a collection, I just wanted the club to be aware of this. But if that is the feeling I think it would be a nice gesture.
Surely a match could be arranged to raise funds for him.
That would be a good idea, at the end of last season I went to the last
game at Eton Park (Burton) where they had the current team playing a
legends XI, and even as a neutral it was quite a good night, which I
thought would be good to see at Molineux.
Perhaps something like that on an annual basis, with all profits going
to the ex-players association would be an idea, it would probably draw
a good sized crowd.
EasternWolf
22-07-2005, 14:33
I'm another one who remembers him well. He was a brilliant ball player. Great touch. I think the idea of telling Sir Jack is a good one and agree that a game in his honour would be very appropriate.
Wivey Wolf
22-07-2005, 14:33
Why don't you write to Sir Jack directly? I can't believe that he would not be willing to help out such a brilliant Wolves servant in his hour of need. Surely a match could be arranged to raise funds for him.
Very sad to hear that he is in such a state. I never had the privilege of seeing him in the flesh but from old newsreels and the stories you hearit is obvious he was a brilliant playmaker and had a key role in our 50s success. Wolves through and through. He deserves our support and I would certainly be willing to make a contribution to any fund that might be set up. I hope many others here would agree with me.
I had thought about Sir Jack. Is there an easy route to him ? Try Chickie - she may be able to direct a quiet word
Oldgold Wolfcub
22-07-2005, 14:34
Why don't you write to Sir Jack directly? I
can't believe that he would not be willing to help out such a brilliant
Wolves servant in his hour of need. Surely a match could be arranged to
raise funds for him.
Surely this is where testimonials should be used. Handled properly should benefit everybody concerned.
goldeneyed
22-07-2005, 14:35
Why don't you write to Sir Jack directly? I can't believe that he would not be willing to help out such a brilliant Wolves servant in his hour of need. Surely a match could be arranged to raise funds for him.
Very sad to hear that he is in such a state. I never had the privilege of seeing him in the flesh but from old newsreels and the stories you hearit is obvious he was a brilliant playmaker and had a key role in our 50s success. Wolves through and through. He deserves our support and I would certainly be willing to make a contribution to any fund that might be set up. I hope many others here would agree with me.
I had thought about Sir Jack. Is there an easy route to him ?
Just write to the club c/o it will get through to him. Unless anyone here can offer a more direct route?
Essex Wolf
22-07-2005, 14:36
Spot on OGW.
Stan Cutlass
22-07-2005, 14:42
I'd have thought Jez Moxey would be easier to get hold of as a first port of call... he's proved recently he's not made of cardboard and would most likely be happy to help where he could...
willenhall wulf
22-07-2005, 14:49
I am writing to Sir Jack, via the Mol,and I will let you all know if I get a response.
Stan Cutlass
22-07-2005, 14:50
Good on you Will
Up until fairly recently I was receiving regular bulletins on Mr Broadbent as he was a patient on the ward which my wife works on.
The deterioration inthe mental state of such a former great (and my late dad's hero) was as saddening then as it still is now and I really hope someone at Molineux can find enough benevolence and respect in themselves to assist Mr Broadbent in seeing his days out with as much dignity as he displayed on the pitch for Wolves.
willenhall wulf
22-07-2005, 15:03
Up until fairly recently I was receiving regular bulletins on Mr Broadbent as he was a patient on the ward which my wife works on.
The deterioration inthe mental state of such a former great (and my late dad's hero) was as saddening then as it still is now and I really hope someone at Molineux can find enough benevolence and respect in themselves to assist Mr Broadbent in seeing his days out with as much dignity as he displayed on the pitch for Wolves.
Thanks G-Wulf.
I know the situation at first hand. I gave his daughter-in-law a lift, with my wife, on Wednesday night and she told me all about it.
willenhall wulf
22-07-2005, 15:59
I am writing to Sir Jack, via the Mol,and I will let you all know if I get a response.
...PS I have copiedthe letterto Jez....
Anglian Wolf
22-07-2005, 16:35
I never actually saw him play because he was slightly before my time but I know others who have and many regard him as the most skilful player ever to wear a Wolves shirt.
I must say the idea of a testimonial or benefit match sounds like a superb one. How about a match at Molineux against Honved given the iconic resonance that fixture would have of our glory years in the 50s.
I am wondering whether the club is watching this Board in the same way we know they were watching the old one. Hope so.
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goldeneyed
22-07-2005, 16:37
I am writing to Sir Jack, via the Mol,and I will let you all know if I get a response.
...PS I have copiedthe letterto Jez....
Well done Willenhall!
Still Proud
22-07-2005, 19:08
I was fortunate enough to end up on the guest list of the unveilling of the Stan Cullis statue and "looked after" Peter at the bar. It nearly brought a tear to my eye. He asked for a bitter for his wife who politely accepted but told me she had never touched the stuff.
A lot of the ex-players there were grateful to be there a get a buffet lunch and a few free drinks.
Kenyy Miller wandered through later on in the event and though I didn't expect him to bow and tug his forelock, it was a shame that he didn't take time out to chat with these guys and learn a little of their exploits.Bobby Charlton spent a lot of time with Peter and their mutual was obvious.
From the stories I heard that day, I guess thier autobiographies would make more complelling reading than your modern day player.
I'mup for anything we can do on here!
BardWolf
22-07-2005, 19:14
I don't know how much a collection raised on here would help, but I also would be willing to contribute in that way and any other.
I hope your letter gets a decent response Willenhall.
jayeff17
22-07-2005, 19:48
My first football hero what a great player how sad to hear of his situation.
Black Suit
22-07-2005, 20:45
[/QUOTE] Try Chickie - she may be able to direct a quiet word[/QUOTE]
You are bang on there Wivey, Chickee can get the message to him within the hour! smileys/smiley32.gif
OldWolvesfart
22-07-2005, 22:29
First this has to become a sticky ADMIN PLEASE.
Second anyone, Chickee, Mutchy make contact with Sir jack
Third I am willing to contribute to any fund in support of Peter
Broadbent.
Last if he is having to sell his personal Wolves belongings someone
tell us where and when so at least we can raise the bidding on his
behalf.
Stan Cutlass
22-07-2005, 22:32
Tried to get it a sticky earlier OWF - no joy or response. May have just been missed.
Life certainly is cruel.
Leicesterwolf
22-07-2005, 22:34
Right,
Lets get on this situation NOW !
I have been aware of Frank Munro's poor health for many a year. He was entitled to a testimonial having served 10 yrs and was promised one but it never materialised . Because the Doog wrote and complained to Sir Jack (red rag to a bull and all that) , the Haywards took the opinion that this was before their stewardship and nothing to do with them although John Richards wasmore than sympathetic.
How pathetic is it that local clubs like Bilston & Willenhall care more about players like these than the mighty Wolves ?smileys/smiley7.gif
As far as I know Peter Creed runs the ex-Wolves Players Association but the last I heard you had to play 200 games for the club to become a full smileys/smiley19.gifmember .
In stark contrast to the Villa Assocation whereANYONE who has played forthem is looked after. Terry Wharton (last seen driving taxis , Ernie Hunt, to name just a few in difficult circumstances all deserve the opportunity to be treated with the respect that they have earned .
By the way, the Doog ( and Neil Rioch of the Villa FPA) launched a couple of weeks ago "Ex-Pros" an organisation to provide welfare to the distressed . Know nothing about it but would be glad to get any info .
OldWolvesfart
22-07-2005, 22:45
This sounds like an area where we can all become involved in rather
than worrying about what Camara may do next.
Dougan and an Ex-pro oganisation needs to be examined but we
need more feed back from everyone on ex-wolves players such as
Peter Broadbent. As Leicester says lets get on this NOW.
And thanks Mutchy for the sticky, note the kneeled posture.Edited by: OldWolvesfart
Prodigal Wolf
22-07-2005, 22:49
I'm in for a collection, testimonial or anythingelse I can do to help.
Does anyone know how to go about organising a bucket collection for the Palace
game? Thats probably the easiest and quickest way to raise the most
amount of money possible from the fans.
Edited by: wolfan
OldWolvesfart
22-07-2005, 22:57
Lest we forget:-
He went on win three further caps, including one against Brazil in
Rio de Janeiro in front of a crowd of 130,000. Wolves went on to win
their third Championship and Peter scored a Boxing Day hat- trick at
Portsmouth as he wore the number nine shirt of the injured Jimmy
Murray. He finished the season as the club's top scorer with 22 goals
including two against Shalke 04 as Wolves made$their debut in the
European Cup.
$ Wanderers narrowly missed out on the double in 1959/60 but Peter
won his fourth major domestic honour when he was a member of
the side that defeated Blackburn Rovers in the FA Cup Final. He
remained a regular in the team for the next four years, but, in 1964/
5, as relegation to the Second Division loomed, he left the Wolves.$
$
$ On Boxing Day against Aston Villa, as Dave Wagstaffe made his
debut in gold and black, Peter said goodbye to a Molineux crowd
that had marvelled at his talents for thirteen years. He moved to
Shrewsbury Town and then had spells with Aston Villa, Stockport
and Bromsgrove Rovers before he retired in 1971. Today he lives in
retirement, with his wife Shirley, in the Staffordshire village of
Codsall after years of running a successful babywear shop in
Halesowen. To many Wolves fans he is regarded as the greatest ever
player to don the club's colours.
WOLVES PLAYING CAREER 1950-1965
League Appearances 452 Goals 127
FA Cup Appearances 31 Goals 10
European Games Appearances 11 Goals 7
Other Appearances 3 Goals 1
TOTAL APPEARANCES 497 GOALS 145
This is clipped from the full text on the official wolves player
profiles.
http://www.wolves.premiumtv.co.uk/club/view/past_players/
0,,10307~12248,00.html
Stan Cutlass
22-07-2005, 23:42
Peter and Shirleyused to own a shop and flat above in Bilbrook during his playing days. It was next door to my Grandparents who owned the shop and flat next door. He took both my Grandpa and my Dad to gameson occasions- my dad being under 10 at the time. My nan still keeps in touch with Shirley... a terriblysad situation to be faced with.
Truly a legend - a superstar of English football and a gentleman.
I'm more than willing to help anyway possible - I look forward to seeing a positive response from the club posted on here, after I return from my hols.
Quiet word passed along -- SJH says he had no idea Peter Broadbent was
in such a state -- was a huge admirer of his and "don't worry, something will be done to help." Rest
assured that he will look into things when he returns to
Wolverhampton in a couple of weeks' time. My thanks to Mutchy for
calling my attention to this thread. Cheers to the rest of you
for caring.smileys/smiley14.gif
Edited by: chickie
why are you thanking wolves supporters for caring about a wolves legend?
You see, this is what makes me angry
...
Prodigal Wolf
23-07-2005, 00:47
why are you thanking wolves supporters for caring about a wolves legend?
You see, this is what makes me angry...
It's called good manners.
OK
Thanks everyone for caring about a Wolves legend. Its very much appreciated.
Do/Can you see PW? It isn't manner, it's something completely different.
why are you thanking wolves supporters for caring about a wolves legend?
You see, this is what makes me angry
...
Gosh, so sorry to insult you!! In my silly American mind "cheers"
means "good on you" -- i.e., it's nice to see that people care"
Jeez, some people will find any reason to gripe....and to put their bad
vibes into an otherwise postive and heartfelt thread.smileys/smiley8.gif
19th Holer
23-07-2005, 01:23
why are you thanking wolves supporters for caring about a wolves legend?
You see, this is what makes me angry
...
Gosh, so sorry to insult you!! In my silly American mind "cheers" means "good on you" -- i.e., it's nice to see that people care" Jeez, some people will find any reason to gripe....and to put their bad vibes into an otherwise postive and heartfelt thread.smileys/smiley8.gif
Nah, he's just been in the pub all night .smileys/smiley4.gif
I'm not griping, I find your arrogance insulting. You don't know me, or where I live OR which ex Wolves players my family may or may not know OR even live a few doors away from.
Edited for absolute rubbish COB.... get a grip....
Edited by: Mutchy
Good grief, the guy was only saying thankyou and not being arrogant at all. Peter Broadbent was my idol, the best pure footballer to pull on a Wolves shirt. Have many happy memories of him. What a bodyswerve. So sad to hear of his situation and would be willing to contribute if someone will tell me an address to send a cheque to. Can someone also please let me know where & when the auction of his memorabilia is? Thankyou. And thanks to fellow Wolves fans for showing compassion.
In Hod We Trust
23-07-2005, 08:47
What a tragic story, what a legend and true gentleman!!!!
You know I personally think in this age of obscene wages some professionals earn I think the PFA shouldset upa policy forold professionals of Peter's ilk, letsface it 10% of say David Beckhams wage would mean peanuts to him,but too someonw like Peter would mean the world.
Some of these these present day footballers take so much out of the game its time they gave somthing back I say. Doubt that will everhappen though, so its left to us fans.
The rallying arround on this thread really is a joyto see, we as wolves fans get some bad press but this just shows what a cracking bunch of fans we really are!!!
I look forward to your letter response WW
Wivey Wolf
23-07-2005, 09:49
What a tragic story, what a legend and true gentleman!!!!
You know I personally think in this age of obscene wages some professionals earn I think the PFA shouldset upa policy forold professionals of Peter's ilk, letsface it 10% of say David Beckhams wage would mean peanuts to him,but too someonw like Peter would mean the world.
As I read through this thread, I had much the same thought.My idea was that the club would set up a charitable foundation, and encourage current players to donate to this by offering to match the player's contribution (up to a certain maximum). Properly structured, this would betax efficient for both the club and the individual. Supporters could similarly donate to the charity.
goldeneyed
23-07-2005, 10:16
Wivey an excellent idea worth passing on to the club, E&S etc. Many thanks to Chickee for passing the word to Sir Jack. If we as supporters can't come together somehowto help players who have served the club with such distinction at their hour of need then our club really is doomed to mediocrity in the future.
Whether you are too young to know much about Peter Broadbent or not I hope each and every Wolves supporter will try and help if/when the opportunity arises. Please count me very much in. I still think the easiest way is to have a testimonial match which would at one sweep bring in a decent amount. Surely this could be fairly easily arranged. Perhaps the friendly against Villa could be turned into this? Short notice I know, but why not?
Vic the Greek
23-07-2005, 10:28
When you read about the obscene amounts that players get nowadays it just makes my blood boilwhen I hear of something like this.
Without playes in the past of the quality of Peter Broadbent and many others modern day footballers would not be in the position they are today.
I really hope something comes of this.
OldWolvesfart
23-07-2005, 11:21
Quiet word passed along -- SJH says he had no idea Peter Broadbent
was
in such a state -- was a huge admirer of his and "don't worry,
something will be done to help."$ Rest
assured that he will look into things when he returns to
Wolverhampton in a couple of weeks' time.$ My thanks to Mutchy for
calling my attention to this thread.$ Cheers to the rest of you
for caring.smileys/smiley14.gif
Well done chickie and mutchy for getting this to SJH and thanks to
Willenhall for starting this thread.
I remember reading about Tommy Smith a couple of years back who was struggling with Arthritis and financial difficulties. When players get injected with cortizone and whatever they use just to let them play through the pain barrier you wonder what damage they are doing long term.
I think the Wolves/Supporters should help ex-players like Broadbent and Munro, perhaps a friendly each pre-season that will attract a full crowd, proceeds to go into a charitable fund. Dont wish to sound evil but there must be a thousand plus players who have played for Wolves and who do they priortise and on what grounds?
Sheriff Woody
23-07-2005, 16:02
It never ceases to amaze me, the amount of compassion and love for former players that are shown on this board and it previous incarnate, whether it be legends such as Peter Broadbent or players with less illustrious careers such as Rob Hindmarch.
We've seen in recent times the amount of fans willing to help Geoff Thomas raise awareness for his charity and it's about time that we start helping the less high profile cases such as Mr Broadbent.
Brighton Wolf
23-07-2005, 20:12
I'll put something in, when I know how. But mainly wanted to say that it would be nice if, through our/the club's endeavours, Mr Broadbent didn't have to sell the memorabilia that he worked so hard for, for so little financial gain. I now posess my dad's WW2 war medals, not worth very much, but I'd hate to have seen them end up withsomeone outside my family.
Grizzled Wolf
23-07-2005, 21:00
One of the greats...it would be a pleasure to help him in his time of need!!
St.Simon
23-07-2005, 22:34
It is a pleasure to be in your company fellas, you make me proud. (Except Orange Boots ...who will be offended /angry if I include him). smileys/smiley4.gif
WW it looks as if you are nominated as co-ordinator - so where do we send our contributions?
Please do not forget to give some publicity on this board as to where and when the memorabilia is to be auctioned, if it happens. Our participation will (at least)improve the bidding.
willenhall wulf
23-07-2005, 23:20
Quiet word passed along -- SJH says he had no idea Peter Broadbent was in such a state -- was a huge admirer of his and "don't worry, something will be done to help." Rest assured that he will look into things when he returns to Wolverhampton in a couple of weeks' time. My thanks to Mutchy for calling my attention to this thread. Cheers to the rest of you for caring.smileys/smiley14.gif
I am completely overwhelmed by the response to my post. you guys are amazing. Thanks all of you for sharing my sadness at what has happened to a Wolves legend and for great desire shown to rectify the situation. Something good will comeout of this I know.smileys/smiley32.gifsmileys/smiley32.gifsmileys/smiley32.gif
willenhall wulf
23-07-2005, 23:22
It is a pleasure to be in your company fellas, you make me proud. (Except Orange Boots ...who will be offended /angry if I include him). smileys/smiley4.gif
WW it looks as if you are nominated as co-ordinator - so where do we send our contributions?
Please do not forget to give some publicity on this board as to where and when the memorabilia is to be auctioned, if it happens. Our participation will (at least)improve the bidding.
I would be delighted to do this. I have never done anything like this before, can someone give me a bit of guidance as how to set it up ?
Depends what exactly you want to do...a collection would be quite hard to organise on here because of the limits on PMs. Presumably donations would be sent to you if you want it to be a specific collection from this forum. Are you happy to give your home address to anyone who shows an interest in contributing?
willenhall wulf
23-07-2005, 23:44
Depends what exactly you want to do...a collection would be quite hard to organise on here because of the limits on PMs. Presumably donations would be sent to you if you want it to be a specific collection from this forum. Are you happy to give your home address to anyone who shows an interest in contributing?
I don't think that I would like to put my address on here. I am sure 99.9% of peeople are sound but you never know who is lurking out there. Is there a more secure way of doing it ? Or perhaps some sort of fund raising event might be better ?
I had to use my home address for Aidan's collection, but all contact was made by PM. I wouldn't have put it out on the forum...
Your best bet is to see what happens through Chickie pointing this out to Sir Jack, then perhaps it could be arranged for money to be donated via Molineux?
OldWolvesfart
23-07-2005, 23:58
Sounds like SJH will step in shortly on behalf of Peter Broadbent.
But perhaps we should be, as some have suggested, be pushing for
some sort of charity match at the Mol on behalf of players like Peter.
Not excluding any matches played elsewhere for a similiar fund.
LeicesterWolf says :-
As far as I know Peter Creed runs the ex-Wolves Players Association
but the last I heard you had to play 200 games for the club to
become a full $member .
In stark contrast to the Villa Assocation where$ANYONE who has
played for$them is looked after. Terry Wharton (last seen driving
taxis , Ernie Hunt, to name just a few in difficult circumstances all
deserve the opportunity to be treated with the respect that they have
earned .$$$
By the way, the Doog ( and Neil Rioch of the Villa FPA) launched a
couple of weeks ago "Ex-Pros"$ an organisation to provide welfare to
the distressed . Know nothing about it but would be glad to get any
info .-------------
I have failed to find anything further about a Dougan Ex-pro
organisation, but we should try and establish who if anyone has
already started such a fund/organisation before attempting to start
another. It sounds like many of us want to contribute in some way
to support ex-wolves players but perhaps rather than just starting a
fund from Mol Mix members we should aim higher for charity
matches and similiar and push for the club to recognise what they
owe these players. If they are willing to promote and sell videos,
dvd's, books etc, that feature the players from the Wolves teams of
the past then they must be prepared to ensure that they are at least
aware of the present circumstances of the players they are using to
promote the Wolves of today. We have a great youth scheme at
Wolves how about a great, in fact phenomenal, ex-wolves player
scheme to ensure that situations such as those facing Peter
Broadbent and his family and other ex-players mentioned on this
site never have to be left to a band of supporters of a club such as
us.
I'm looking for guidance from Willenhall, Leicester and others but my
gut feeling is we should push for the club to recognise their past
commitments to players and also be prepared to contribute
ourselves in some way with some guidance.Edited by: OldWolvesfart
willenhall wulf
23-07-2005, 23:58
I think that would be a better idea. I have written to Sir Jack myself and copied it to Jez.
willenhall wulf
24-07-2005, 00:00
I'm looking for guidance from Willenhall, Leicester and others but my
gut feeling is we should push for the club to recognise their past
commitments to players and also be prepared to contribute
ourselves in some way with some guidance.
I think that is a sound idea.
Leicesterwolf
24-07-2005, 14:54
As I understand it the ex-Wolves Players association was set up after the death of Jimmy Mullen as a way for the old players to keep in touch. They have an annual dinner attended by Sir Jck but not much else in terms of organisation.
The situation on players testimonials as I understand it is that the players in Peter Broadbent's days used tp get a £750 benefit after 5 years service and £1500 after 10 years .
Quite along way from the testimonials enjoyed by some of todays players I am sure you will agree.
There are in my opinion several other deserving cases none more so than Frank Munro who was promised one in 1976 and is still waiting.
To set up a testimonial match requires the permission of the club, a date and a team to play against. There are all sorts of other things to consider such as policing, stadium turnstile operators, programme etc but the most important thing is to get Charitable status so that it becomes tax free and a committee to organise the event/ events.
As far as I am aware, players such as Terry Wharton, Phil Parkes, John McAlle, Duggie Woodfield, Gerry Taylor, Derek Parkinto name just a few would have qualified for testimonials after 10 years service also .
If we can push it this far why not try to get the club to allow us to do a mtach annually for the benefit of the old players ?
willenhall wulf
24-07-2005, 15:53
Sounds like a great idea Leicester, but how much support do you think the club would give us? They haven't, apparently, done vey much to date.
shaygriff
24-07-2005, 17:00
I don't know how much a collection raised on here would help, but I also would be willing to contribute in that way and any other.
I hope your letter gets a decent response Willenhall.
I would also like to contribute to any collection or fund to one of our Great's. I'm sure the othermembers of Viking Wolves would also help.
Keep up the good work !
Apart from a general desire to help in some way, what is the overall census of opinion on this? I believe the club will indeed do something to help Peter.... would posters on here prefer to wait and contribute to something official, or do you want todonate a specific Molineux Mix collection in the meantime?
Prodigal Wolf
24-07-2005, 17:14
Apart from a general desire to help in some way, what is the overall census of opinion on this? I believe the club will indeed do something to help Peter.... would posters on here prefer to wait and contribute to something official, or do you want todonate a specific Molineux Mix collection in the meantime?
My gut feeling is that it would be easier to contribute to an official collection/testimonial fund.The suggestion of using pre-season friendlies to raise money for former players is an excellent one. I don't attend pre season friendlies as a rule, but I would attend one being used to raise funds in this way. Anyone else feel the same way?
shaygriff
24-07-2005, 17:14
Apart from a general desire to help in some way, what is the overall census of opinion on this? I believe the club will indeed do something to help Peter.... would posters on here prefer to wait and contribute to something official, or do you want todonate a specific Molineux Mix collection in the meantime?
I would contribute to both!
Grizzled Wolf
24-07-2005, 17:17
I would like to see about 25% of the gate money from ALL pre season matches across the country each year, going into a fund for retired players in need.
OldWolvesfart
24-07-2005, 18:38
Apart from a general
desire to help in some way, what is the overall census of opinion on
this? I believe the club will indeed do something to help Peter....
would posters on here prefer to wait and contribute to something
official, or do you want to$donate a specific Molineux Mix collection
in the meantime?
My gut feeling is that it would be easier to contribute to an official
collection/testimonial fund.$The suggestion of using pre-season
friendlies to raise money for former players is an excellent one. I
don't attend pre season friendlies as a rule, but I would attend one
being used to raise funds in this way. Anyone else feel the same
way?
I agree with Prodigal I think we should push for an official collection/
testimonial fund which could cover a wider area and raise far more
for ex-players.
Question is who makes the approaches to the club to get such a
fund discussed and set up.
I'm assuming that would take time though, whereas it soundslike Peter is in need of fairly immediate help.Helping Peter now, and aiming to encourage somekind of wider scheme, can both be done.
Leicesterwolf
24-07-2005, 20:19
Hi Willenhall ,
Sir Jack I am pretty confident will respond to this situation quite positively. The 70's players I mentioned was at a time when the club was owned by a different regime and Derek Dougan putting his oar in did not go down to well.
Some clubs such as Derby and Leeds have treated former players really well and with others it is an afterthought and many others they became history the minute they left.
I think Wolves are in the middle . But the tradition and the fabulous players are probably the reason why we are all became and are still supporters.smileys/smiley4.gif
OldWolvesfart
24-07-2005, 20:21
I'm assuming that would take time though,
whereas it sounds$like Peter is in need of fairly immediate
help.$Helping Peter now, and aiming to encourage some$kind of
wider scheme, can both be done.$
I am a little confused Mutchy on the on the one hand you say :- .I
believe the club will indeed do something to help Peter....
Are you sayin that in the case of Peter we cannot wait for the club via
SJH to intervene? If so then please go ahead and start the fund
raising within the mix. We , I am sure, are ready to contribute.
But can you suggest the best way forward for an approach to the
club for an ex-player fund raising scheme?
No, I'm saying that I believe the club will do something to help Peter - but asking if we want to be a specific part of that and make some kind of MM donation?
I see the wider scheme that you are talking about as something more long-term, that if it happened would taketime to get up and running. I'm sure that this idea will be brought to the attention of Sir Jack also....
OldWolvesfart
24-07-2005, 21:29
No, I'm saying that I believe the club will do
something to help Peter - but asking if we want to be a specific part
of that and make some kind of MM donation?
I see the wider scheme that you are talking about as something
more long-term, that if it happened would take$time to get up and
running. I'm sure that this idea will be brought to the attention of Sir
Jack also....
Ok I understand lets start an MM donation for Peter Broadbent and
keep an eye on and prepare for a longer term scheme in support of
Ex-Wolves players and approach the club on that basis.
Bilbrook_Wolves
25-07-2005, 16:45
i really belive Sir Jack will be willing to set up something! Fair play to everyone who thought of this idea!
As mentioned earlier, something needs to be done very quickly to help Peter and then perhaps there can besubsequent discussions with the club on a way forward. The idea of an annual friendly match in support of ex-Wolves players is obviously a very good one. Tell us where to send the money and the cheques I'm sure will be in the post.
Bridgo Wolf
27-07-2005, 14:17
I met Peter Broadbent at the launch of our Wolves
History Video - a true gent who obviously has nothing
but love for our club. Anything we can do would be a
start - couldn't a PO Box address be set up for
donations to be sent to?
I've got no idea how much his memorabilia is likely
to be sold for, but what about any funds that are
raised by MM being used to buy it and then donate it
back to Peter. That way the money would still end up
with Peter and his family and they would be able to
keep hold of the treasures that would never be able
to be replaced.
I also have contacts with the old Wolves team that
play charity matches, I know that the likes of Bully,
Mel Eves, Thommo and others regularly turn out for
them. I'll try to get in touch with them to see if they
could get invilved somehow.
It is seeing the response to pleas like this that make
me proud to be associated with you fellow wolves
fans.
willenhall wulf
27-07-2005, 14:24
Hi BW
The reason for any delay in going any further with collections etcis that I want to discuss this with Peter's Daughter-in-law first. I don't want to compromise the family in any way or hurt their feelings. She was very bitter about the Wolves. I can't get hold of her at the moment as she is on holiday. As soon as she returns I will discuss it with her and report back.
WW
Bridgo Wolf
27-07-2005, 14:38
WW - Thats fair enough, I'll look out for your
comments. All credit to you, mate, for acting on this.
OldWolvesfart
27-07-2005, 20:03
Hi BW
The reason for any delay in going any further with collections
etc$is that I want to discuss this with Peter's Daughter-in-law first. I
don't want to compromise the family in any way or hurt their
feelings. She was very bitter about the Wolves. I can't get hold of her
at the moment as she is on holiday. As soon as she returns I will
discuss it with her and report back.
WW
Lets leave this in your hands then Willenhall and wait until you have
discussed this with the family. This will also give time for SJH to get
involved which he has promised on his return.
BardWolf
28-07-2005, 16:39
Willenhall
Well done for your efforts thus far and your consideration to the family - an admirably tactful approach. Let us know.
I've spoken to a club representative and Wolves have been in contact with the Broadbent family through the Former Players Association. Concerns raised here have been taken seriously.
OldWolvesfart
28-07-2005, 19:35
I've spoken to a club representative and Wolves
have been in contact with the Broadbent family through the Former
Players Association. Concerns raised here have been taken
seriously.
$
$
Many thanks for all you have done Mutchy, do you think we ( or
should i say you, you have previous experiance) should organise
some MM fund raising or wait and see what develops?
At the moment its a case of wait and see, OWF.
If it becomes clear that there is something we can do as a group we will be given the chance.
OldWolvesfart
28-07-2005, 20:24
At the moment its a case of wait and see, OWF.
If it becomes clear that there is something we can do as a group
we will be given the chance.
Thank you mam, will leave it in your capable hands.
Prodigal Wolf
28-07-2005, 22:01
Excellent news Mutchy. Well done to you and WW.
George's Afro
29-07-2005, 08:50
Peter Broadbent is the reason I became a Wolves fan - he had gone to the same school in Deal, Kent as my uncle who then years later brainwashed me into following the Wolves. Really wish I'd seen him play - he sounds like he was a football genius. I'd gladly contribute.
willenhall wulf
29-07-2005, 08:55
Peter Broadbent is the reason I became a Wolves fan - he had gone to the same school in Deal, Kent as my uncle who then years later brainwashed me into following the Wolves. Really wish I'd seen him play - he sounds like he was a football genius. I'd gladly contribute.
..welcome GA....it was my dad too who told me all about Peter Broadbent....
astraltrader
01-08-2005, 22:49
To Chickee/Mutchy/OWF - When a facility is established - could one of you worthies PM me with details and I will gladly send a cheque.
St.Simon
02-08-2005, 12:10
To Chickee/Mutchy/OWF - When a facility is established - could one of you worthies PM me with details and I will gladly send a cheque.
That goes for me too.
EasternWolf
03-08-2005, 11:18
Reading this again, took me back to my childhood. I was about seven at the time and I had begged my mother to get me an old gold shirt. I dont even know if it was possible to get replica shirts in those days, but certainly, my old mum would have had no idea how to do it. Instead, she took one of my white shirts and dyed it a sort of mustard yellow. She cut up some black silk and edged the collar. I remember the first day I took it to school on games afternoon, the headmaster (who took the lads at football) said "who are you today?" and I said "Peter Broadbent".
If I close my eyes now, I can picture standing there proudly announcing that in front of my pals. In the way of children, I really was Peter Broadbent. In a funny kind of way, Ithink I still am.
willenhall wulf
03-08-2005, 11:26
Reading this again, took me back to my childhood. I was about seven at the time and I had begged my mother to get me an old gold shirt. I dont even know if it was possible to get replica shirts in those days, but certainly, my old mum would have had no idea how to do it. Instead, she took one of my white shirts and dyed it a sort of mustard yellow. She cut up some black silk and edged the collar. I remember the first day I took it to school on games afternoon, the headmaster (who took the lads at football) said "who are you today?" and I said "Peter Broadbent".
If I close my eyes now, I can picture standing there proudly announcing that in front of my pals. In the way of children, I really was Peter Broadbent. In a funny kind of way, Ithink I still am.
Nicepost Eastern http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif
Anglian Wolf
03-08-2005, 11:52
To Chickee/Mutchy/OWF - When a facility is established - could one of you worthies PM me with details and I will gladly send a cheque.
Me too please
Roxwellwolf
08-08-2005, 22:51
Never except a cheque from anyone from East Anglia, not even a good onesmileys/smiley36.gifCASH PLEASE.
OldWolvesfart
09-08-2005, 22:31
Roxwell give a little thought when you post or at least read the first
post of a thread. Please.
Big Saft Kid
10-08-2005, 11:04
Peter Broadbent is the reason I became a Wolves fan - he had gone to the same school in Deal, Kent as my uncle who then years later brainwashed me into following the Wolves. Really wish I'd seen him play - he sounds like he was a football genius. I'd gladly contribute.
..welcome GA....it was my dad too who told me all about Peter Broadbent....
He was signed as a 17 year-old from Brentford, I think. Jimmy Murray, who played alongside him for years was also from the south coast - Dover, I think.
I saw Broadbent regularly from 1958 to about 1965, when he left Wolves. A great creative player who also scored some great goals. One versus Man U in 1959 sticks in my mind - two shimmies leaving 2 Utd defenders for dea, and a left-foot rocket into the top corner past Harry Gregg, South Bank end, in a 3-2 win.smileys/smiley19.gif
Roxwellwolf
10-08-2005, 23:49
Roxwell give a little thought when you post or at least read the first
post of a thread. Please.
All said in jest mate. chillsmileys/smiley9.gif
Stan Cutlass
11-08-2005, 15:07
Reading this again, took me back to my childhood. I was about seven at the time and I had begged my mother to get me an old gold shirt. I dont even know if it was possible to get replica shirts in those days, but certainly, my old mum would have had no idea how to do it. Instead, she took one of my white shirts and dyed it a sort of mustard yellow. She cut up some black silk and edged the collar. I remember the first day I took it to school on games afternoon, the headmaster (who took the lads at football) said "who are you today?" and I said "Peter Broadbent".
If I close my eyes now, I can picture standing there proudly announcing that in front of my pals. In the way of children, I really was Peter Broadbent. In a funny kind of way, Ithink I still am.
Excellent post EW - inspiring read smileys/smiley1.gif
Roxwellwolf
11-08-2005, 23:16
Did you know when Chelmsford City signed Bobby Mason from wolves in about 1962 Peter Broadbent came with Mason to sign for the City who payed there players £30.00. a week more than the old first division.
Mason was valued at £22,000. by wolves but as he was leaving the football league for the Southern League City never had to pay a penny.
Mason signed but Broadbent wanted a couple of day's to decide but the football league decided that City would be banned from making any application to get in the football league for 5 years and City decided not to sign Broadbent.
Bit more uninteresting dribble, City sold Mason to Leyton Orient for £10,000. and the Football league decided the money went to Wolves.
Bet you never knew that,smileys/smiley2.gif
St.Simon
12-08-2005, 13:08
Roxwell that really is interesting to me. I lived in Chelmsford from 1949 until 1962, and used to watch the City on a regular basis, far more often than I was able to get to see Wolves who I saw mainly when they came to visit the London / Southern teams.
I had no idea that Broadbent was also close to signing.
Roxwellwolf
14-08-2005, 22:16
Roxwell that really is interesting to me. I lived in Chelmsford from 1949 until 1962, and used to watch the City on a regular basis, far more often than I was able to get to see Wolves who I saw mainly when they came to visit the London / Southern teams.
I had no idea that Broadbent was also close to signing.
has changed a bit since 62 mate not sure for the best tho. my family came from chelmsford but ave all gone now so dont visit to often.
my bro was on the books at the City in the early 60s and i met broadbent after an evenning game there.Edited by: Roxwellwolf
Rhoswolf
18-08-2005, 19:58
I'll gladly contribute and well done for all the efforts being made by Mutchy and co.
WhenI first starting watching the Wolves in the late 50's Peter was my dad's favourite and I soon saw why, what a majestic player - one of the all the time greats to grace theMolineux.
Scarwulf
21-08-2005, 13:43
As an Oldie as well as a Newbie I saw Peter play many times and he is my favourite Wolves player of all time,
Sorry to hear of his plight.
Count me in for any contributions.
Hanbone's Hamme
24-08-2005, 16:24
As others have said Peter is definitely my all-time favourite Wolves player. His skill and ability to dictate the pace of a game was awesome. I started watching him in 1953 and watched him throughout his career. One of the finest footballers it has been my privilege to watch over the past half-century,
What progress is being made to start the "appeal"?
Count me in!
Roxwellwolf
25-08-2005, 00:55
Imaging what he'd be worth today.
When football was a mans game played by men they earned a pitance
now its played by money grabing mercinarys. i know which era i'd rather watch.
Vic the Greek
29-08-2005, 14:13
Just wondered if Mutchy, or Chickee could let us know if anythong is happening on this front?
OldWolvesfart
29-08-2005, 22:05
Just wondered if Mutchy, or Chickee could let us
know if anythong is happening on this front?
I think it is reasonable to request an official update after so much time
has passed.
Chickee - Mutchy has Sir Jack taken action or should a fund be started?
Sorry but you are the the connection between here and there.
The position is still the same as when I last posted. Any money we, as a forum, could raise in a collection would be a drop in the ocean as far as the cost of care - for anyone - goes. If a specific way to help becomes clear we will have our chance.
The offering of help to anyone is a sensitive issue; the important thing is that our help is ready and willing if called upon.
OldWolvesfart
29-08-2005, 22:50
The position is still the same as when I last posted.
Any money we, as a forum, could raise in a collection would be a drop in
the ocean as far as the cost of care - for anyone - goes. If a specific way
to help becomes clear we will have our chance.
The offering of help to anyone is a sensitive issue; the important thing
is that our help is ready and willing if called upon.
I appreciate what you are saying Mutchy but previous posts from some
weeks back have suggested that Sir Jack was getting involved and peter
and family were being contacted by the club.
Is there no way we can get a response from the club on what if anything
is being planned. The cost of care is high ,I am aware of this, but a match
appeal on behalf of Peter could raise a reasonable sum combined with
other fund raising appeals.
I am sure there are many other players that need support but Willenhall
raised this case on MM and we need to see it through and maybe it will
lead to bigger things.
willenhall wulf
30-08-2005, 09:59
The position is still the same as when I last posted. Any money we, as a forum, could raise in a collection would be a drop in the ocean as far as the cost of care - for anyone - goes. If a specific way to help becomes clear we will have our chance.
The offering of help to anyone is a sensitive issue; the important thing is that our help is ready and willing if called upon.
PM for you Mutchy.
OldWolvesfart
30-08-2005, 15:35
I seems we need to be patient and await developments and be
prepared to offer help from here if it is required.
I will respect that wish and wait and see.
The position is still the same as when I last
posted. Any money we, as a forum, could raise in a collection would be
a drop in the ocean as far as the cost of care - for anyone - goes. If
a specific way to help becomes clear we will have our chance.
The offering of help to anyone is a sensitive issue; the important thing is that our help is ready and willing if called upon.
Mutchy is correct; and the family that the club spoke to appreciates the care and support but at this time says they are fine.
The very latest is that SJH has said that friendlies will be set up
with proceeds going to a fund for past players who are in need.
(And this way these delicate matters can be handled privately, for the
sake of the player and his family.)
Vic the Greek
30-08-2005, 23:58
Thanks chickie - nice to know
OldWolvesfart
01-09-2005, 20:59
Thanks once again Chickee & Mutchy for your actions and for keeping us
all informed on what is taking place now and in the future.
We look forward to the next report.
