SOUTHBANK_BULLY
04-02-2006, 17:37
there you go guys vote away
View Full Version : the HODDLE OUT poll
Toon Wolf
04-02-2006, 17:39
Voted for Hoddle to go.
derbyrameater
04-02-2006, 17:39
I have just advocated something I have not done before.
Goldwolf
04-02-2006, 17:42
Me too.
Jack Bauer
04-02-2006, 17:43
How anyone can vote to keep the spineless s!$* is beyond me.
shrewsbury_wolf
04-02-2006, 17:43
Hoddle, Connor and Gray must go. Gray and Connor are hanging around like
a bad smell.
a bad smell.
derbyrameater
04-02-2006, 17:45
Moxey`s obviously voted then.
derbyrameater
04-02-2006, 17:48
hoddles happy then. its the pitch, its the players leicester wanted it more and we`ve got a lot of hard work to do, oh and he is going to watch a video.to top it all the great one says there will be more like that in the season. well if thats so $$$$$$$ him.
Bugsy911
04-02-2006, 17:50
Go smileys/smiley7.gif
1wolves
04-02-2006, 17:52
Billy Davies and David Kelly in.
Paul Ince to be part of the coaching staff!
Paul Ince to be part of the coaching staff!
1wolves
04-02-2006, 17:55
GH has had harsh words with the players tonight, and if I was him, i'd be praying that we beat crewe next week, because he'll be unemployed before he knows it!
Lupo Italiano
04-02-2006, 17:57
I have just advocated something I have not done before.
Ditto smileys/smiley19.gif
I have been a relentless supporter of Hoddle but I'm afraid I can't justify him anymore. The entire system we're playing is completely dull and ineffective, we are now turning those tedious bore draws into defeats rather than wins and the formation is lousy.
I can't see things getting better without a major backroom overhaul and that means Gray and Connor especially who should have gone when DJ went.
Hoddle may or may not be a great footballing man but he doesn't know how to manage a club like Wolves (who does?) and things aren't working.
It seems the peak of Hoddle's tenure was the end of last season when the pressure was off and his era seems to be on the downward spiral now.
Continuity is a good thing and Hoddle has been here just over a year but there haven't been any highlights, its been unspectacular to say the least. I have never found attending Molineux as boring and soul destroying as I do now.
A young hungry manager is the answer.
Ditto smileys/smiley19.gif
I have been a relentless supporter of Hoddle but I'm afraid I can't justify him anymore. The entire system we're playing is completely dull and ineffective, we are now turning those tedious bore draws into defeats rather than wins and the formation is lousy.
I can't see things getting better without a major backroom overhaul and that means Gray and Connor especially who should have gone when DJ went.
Hoddle may or may not be a great footballing man but he doesn't know how to manage a club like Wolves (who does?) and things aren't working.
It seems the peak of Hoddle's tenure was the end of last season when the pressure was off and his era seems to be on the downward spiral now.
Continuity is a good thing and Hoddle has been here just over a year but there haven't been any highlights, its been unspectacular to say the least. I have never found attending Molineux as boring and soul destroying as I do now.
A young hungry manager is the answer.
Markwolf
04-02-2006, 17:59
smileys/smiley32.gifGood post Lupo.
sillytuna
04-02-2006, 18:02
If only Hoddle would get over himself and play a decent formation and decent line-up, then he may see us use our "footballing skills" to more effect.
As it is our players just seem lost and disinterested.
Never known it be so dull and uninspiring (great yes, dreadful yes, but never dull which is actually wose than dreadful as it breeds apathy).
As it is our players just seem lost and disinterested.
Never known it be so dull and uninspiring (great yes, dreadful yes, but never dull which is actually wose than dreadful as it breeds apathy).
Goldwolf
04-02-2006, 18:06
That about sums it up for me too Lupo, sadly.
I've got to miss the Crewe game since I'll only just have got back from the US. The saddest thing is that I'm not really bothered. The football this season has been the dullest I can remember in a long time. smileys/smiley19.gif
I've got to miss the Crewe game since I'll only just have got back from the US. The saddest thing is that I'm not really bothered. The football this season has been the dullest I can remember in a long time. smileys/smiley19.gif
tammy wolf
04-02-2006, 18:10
i never thought i would say it but i too have voted for the inept and naive tonsul to go.
Does anyone know how to contact Eileen Drury perhaps she can convince him that his time at Wolves is up and suggest that it is time to move on and try somewhere else like Outer Mongolia !
Does anyone know how to contact Eileen Drury perhaps she can convince him that his time at Wolves is up and suggest that it is time to move on and try somewhere else like Outer Mongolia !
dazmanwolf
04-02-2006, 18:11
I always laugh after we lose a game - same old bulls!$* Hoddle out rants! smileys/smiley36.gifsmileys/smiley36.gifsmileys/smiley36.gif
Goldwolf
04-02-2006, 18:16
I always laugh after we lose a game - same old bulls!$* Hoddle out rants! smileys/smiley36.gifsmileys/smiley36.gifsmileys/smiley36.gif
Actually I think this is a landmark, a turning point. Everyone agreed we had to win this game to keep in with a realistic distance of the play-offs and we've screwed it up again. It is clear from this thread that many of the moderate, optimistic posters have nowcome to acceptthat the season is almost certainly over.
I don't think he will be sacked, but after he persisted with the same tired formation today even when he had new options I've lost what confidence I had left that he knows what he is doing.
Actually I think this is a landmark, a turning point. Everyone agreed we had to win this game to keep in with a realistic distance of the play-offs and we've screwed it up again. It is clear from this thread that many of the moderate, optimistic posters have nowcome to acceptthat the season is almost certainly over.
I don't think he will be sacked, but after he persisted with the same tired formation today even when he had new options I've lost what confidence I had left that he knows what he is doing.
Winelord
04-02-2006, 18:22
I agree entirely with your last post, Goldwolf. Today's game was the
final stretch on the run-in to the PO's. That we've lost to a
relegation-threatened team with caretaker managers is, IMHO,
unacceptable, especially as Hoddle has persevered with his same
tactics. If we couldn't offer any real competition against Leicester
today, then I can't imagine we'll pick up too many more points
this season.
final stretch on the run-in to the PO's. That we've lost to a
relegation-threatened team with caretaker managers is, IMHO,
unacceptable, especially as Hoddle has persevered with his same
tactics. If we couldn't offer any real competition against Leicester
today, then I can't imagine we'll pick up too many more points
this season.
1wolves
04-02-2006, 18:22
I always laugh after we lose a game - same old bulls!$* Hoddle out rants! smileys/smiley36.gifsmileys/smiley36.gifsmileys/smiley36.gif
Actually I think this is a landmark, a turning point. Everyone agreed we had to win this game to keep in with a realistic distance of the play-offs and we've screwed it up again. It is clear from this thread that many of the moderate, optimistic posters have nowcome to acceptthat the season is almost certainly over.
I don't think he will be sacked, but after he persisted with the same tired formation today even when he had new options I've lost what confidence I had left that he knows what he is doing.
I think the crewe match could be his last match, supporter pressure usually kicks managers out of clubs.
Will Moxey go at the end of the season? I personally don't think it is his fault we are in this mess!
Actually I think this is a landmark, a turning point. Everyone agreed we had to win this game to keep in with a realistic distance of the play-offs and we've screwed it up again. It is clear from this thread that many of the moderate, optimistic posters have nowcome to acceptthat the season is almost certainly over.
I don't think he will be sacked, but after he persisted with the same tired formation today even when he had new options I've lost what confidence I had left that he knows what he is doing.
I think the crewe match could be his last match, supporter pressure usually kicks managers out of clubs.
Will Moxey go at the end of the season? I personally don't think it is his fault we are in this mess!
SCB
04-02-2006, 18:24
Voted for Hoddle to stay - just as i voted for Dave Jones to stay just prior to his sacking.
BTW. Jones@Cardiff now above Wolves.
smileys/smiley16.gif Edited by: SCB_
BTW. Jones@Cardiff now above Wolves.
smileys/smiley16.gif Edited by: SCB_
1wolves
04-02-2006, 18:27
BTW. Jones@Cardiff now above Wolves.
smileys/smiley16.gif
Still won't make the play off's like us
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Still won't make the play off's like us
SCB
04-02-2006, 18:30
BTW. Jones@Cardiff now above Wolves.
smileys/smiley16.gif Still won't make the play off's like us
smileys/smiley36.gif smileys/smiley36.gif smileys/smiley32.gif smileys/smiley32.gif You joker.
smileys/smiley16.gif Still won't make the play off's like us
smileys/smiley36.gif smileys/smiley36.gif smileys/smiley32.gif smileys/smiley32.gif You joker.
dazmanwolf
04-02-2006, 18:32
Hoddle will not be sacked because it would cost in excess of £500,000 to pay him off, all because of fans pressure!
If he can't turn it around soon he will just do his job until the end of the season and then be asked to leave.
Money is already tight at Molineux, so another half a million squids going out is not an option.
Fans pressure means nothing - we always turn up at matches just in case it is the game to turn things around.
Plus there are many who would take the spare seats of those who can't be bothered to support the team through thick and thin.
This season was always going to be a tough one after Reading & Shef Utd cemented their promotion places (as good as!)
All we can do now is finish as high as possible and keep building. No point crying about it - its the Wolves way - and has been for many years.
Like most, I have seen us go down to the old 4th division and bounce back again - this is nothing in comparison.
We will recover our form at some point - enjoy it - I will.
http://www.thereel.net/str/231936/thumb/0005000/5187.jpg
BETTER EAT 3 BEFORE THE CREW GAME!
YOU MAY BE OUTRUNNING A LYNCH MOB!smileys/smiley36.gif
If he can't turn it around soon he will just do his job until the end of the season and then be asked to leave.
Money is already tight at Molineux, so another half a million squids going out is not an option.
Fans pressure means nothing - we always turn up at matches just in case it is the game to turn things around.
Plus there are many who would take the spare seats of those who can't be bothered to support the team through thick and thin.
This season was always going to be a tough one after Reading & Shef Utd cemented their promotion places (as good as!)
All we can do now is finish as high as possible and keep building. No point crying about it - its the Wolves way - and has been for many years.
Like most, I have seen us go down to the old 4th division and bounce back again - this is nothing in comparison.
We will recover our form at some point - enjoy it - I will.
http://www.thereel.net/str/231936/thumb/0005000/5187.jpg
BETTER EAT 3 BEFORE THE CREW GAME!
YOU MAY BE OUTRUNNING A LYNCH MOB!smileys/smiley36.gif
OldWolvesfart
04-02-2006, 18:35
We were like headless chickens with a bad case of bird flu looking for a
quick cure today.
But I voted to keep Hoddle this week, just, I will give him two more games
before I call for the hammer and nails.
It's to easy to call for his head because the play offs are out of reach.
If he can give us something in the next two games to show he is a
manager and can motivate and play tatctics that are better than those of
the opposition or at least change tactics to turn around a game - then
-he can take home his salary, otherwise nail him up.
quick cure today.
But I voted to keep Hoddle this week, just, I will give him two more games
before I call for the hammer and nails.
It's to easy to call for his head because the play offs are out of reach.
If he can give us something in the next two games to show he is a
manager and can motivate and play tatctics that are better than those of
the opposition or at least change tactics to turn around a game - then
-he can take home his salary, otherwise nail him up.
Stewarton Wolf
04-02-2006, 18:35
For the first time I've voted for him to go. The problem with not taking chances has been there all season and could of been resolved. We must strike quickly and secure Stuart Baxter and see if we can salvage this dreadful season. However lets be careful that we don't get Souness.
Jim Bowen
04-02-2006, 18:38
I can only assume the people who say he should stay - don't go/haven't seen the table/are family of Hoddle's.
I can't think of one reason why he should stay.
I can't think of one reason why he should stay.
1wolves
04-02-2006, 18:39
For the first time I've voted for him to go. The problem with not taking chances has been there all season and could of been resolved. We must strike quickly and secure Stuart Baxter and see if we can salvage this dreadful season. However lets be careful that we don't get Souness.
If souness is signed as next manager, Jez can save money on sending me a season ticket renewal form!
If souness is signed as next manager, Jez can save money on sending me a season ticket renewal form!
Bolton Hater
04-02-2006, 18:42
Hoddle Out, and for the first time I want Paul Ince to become boss. You wouldn't see him $$$$$$$ing about with one striker up front.
Goldwolf
04-02-2006, 18:44
Hoddle will not be sacked because it would cost in excess of £500,000 to pay him off, all because of fans pressure!
If he can't turn it around soon he will just do his job until the end of the season and then be asked to leave.
He's on a rolling contract, it will cost the same to sack him at the end of the season as it will now.
I don't think he will be sacked, just saying that if he was I wouldn't be unhappy.
If he can't turn it around soon he will just do his job until the end of the season and then be asked to leave.
He's on a rolling contract, it will cost the same to sack him at the end of the season as it will now.
I don't think he will be sacked, just saying that if he was I wouldn't be unhappy.
Goldwolf
04-02-2006, 18:50
Plus there are many who would take the spare seats of those who can't be bothered to support the team through thick and thin.
And that's the most naive thing I've read for a while. If anything is going to get Jez worried it will be the falling gates.
And that's the most naive thing I've read for a while. If anything is going to get Jez worried it will be the falling gates.
28th March 1965
04-02-2006, 18:52
I've just got back and it's the angriest I've ever been at a football match , I'm not ashamed to say I booed them off for the first time ever.........Time for Hoddle to $$$$$$$ off I've just about had enough of watching this p!$* poor football...
First chants off Hoddle out today and it's now started ......time for him to go before he ruins us and takes us down......
First chants off Hoddle out today and it's now started ......time for him to go before he ruins us and takes us down......
dazmanwolf
04-02-2006, 19:00
Plus there are many who would take the spare seats of those who can't be bothered to support the team through thick and thin.
And that's the most naive thing I've read for a while. If anything is going to get Jez worried it will be the falling gates.
Gates have not fallen significantly in many many years - all Jez will do is special deals to fill the empty seats or offer more to away fans.
It is a business after all and thats all Jez thinks about.
Season ticket holders have sustained this club for years and if they don't show up for games then who cares as long as they have already paid for the pleasure.
And that's the most naive thing I've read for a while. If anything is going to get Jez worried it will be the falling gates.
Gates have not fallen significantly in many many years - all Jez will do is special deals to fill the empty seats or offer more to away fans.
It is a business after all and thats all Jez thinks about.
Season ticket holders have sustained this club for years and if they don't show up for games then who cares as long as they have already paid for the pleasure.
Hatch End Wolf
04-02-2006, 19:00
He won't be sacked, Wolves will just limp along to the end of the season, then Hodgod will go. It's the worst of all worlds situation ( as Glen might say! ).
Davebull
04-02-2006, 19:02
yep, thats enough for me.
8 points off the play offs with this squad and playing the most uninspiring, boring football imaginable.
Enough is enough.
8 points off the play offs with this squad and playing the most uninspiring, boring football imaginable.
Enough is enough.
IMAB
04-02-2006, 19:06
Season ticket holders have sustained this club for years and if they don't show up for games then who cares as long as they have already paid for the pleasure.
Jez will, when he asksus to renew
Jez will, when he asksus to renew
derbyrameater
04-02-2006, 19:06
Dazman, I couldn`t give away my ticket for man utdso I dont think I`ll have much success for a championship game do you. I`ve not said I will stop going but I will choose my games this season even though the ST is payed for but next season no ST and will choose the games I go to, (if its a sell out so be it) ie when its a warmish day not a 7-45 friday not a sunday and not a sat evening or morning match, but I don`t think sky will be featuring us much next season coz we ain`t even good for a laugh.
I.D.
04-02-2006, 19:07
Gates have not fallen significantly in many many years
Completely wrong, gates are 20-25% down this season compared to last.
That is falling significantly and they will fall even more next season
unless something drastic happens.
Completely wrong, gates are 20-25% down this season compared to last.
That is falling significantly and they will fall even more next season
unless something drastic happens.
dazmanwolf
04-02-2006, 19:13
Gates have not fallen significantly in many many years
Completely wrong, gates are 20-25% down this season compared to last. That is falling significantly and they will fall even more next season unless something drastic happens.
Prices have increased to partially counter the gates falling from last season.
The early bird is being taken up once again and that is next year paid for as far as Jez is concerned.
If gates fall significantly then our team will suffer as a result.
A true fan will attend and support the team if they are doing well or not. Its in the blood.
I always attend games when I am in the UK, and I have rarely seen us win to be honest, but its about supporting your team and not about the results.
Completely wrong, gates are 20-25% down this season compared to last. That is falling significantly and they will fall even more next season unless something drastic happens.
Prices have increased to partially counter the gates falling from last season.
The early bird is being taken up once again and that is next year paid for as far as Jez is concerned.
If gates fall significantly then our team will suffer as a result.
A true fan will attend and support the team if they are doing well or not. Its in the blood.
I always attend games when I am in the UK, and I have rarely seen us win to be honest, but its about supporting your team and not about the results.
IMAB
04-02-2006, 19:14
The early bird is being taken up once again
Sorry, but have I missed something?
We haven't had any announcement on this have we?
Sorry, but have I missed something?
We haven't had any announcement on this have we?
Bumbamuffin
04-02-2006, 19:15
Gates have not fallen significantly in many many years
Completely wrong, gates are 20-25% down this season compared to last. That is falling significantly and they will fall even more next season unless something drastic happens.
That's obviously one of the most important factors now I.D. Putting the results aside for one moment,the type of 'football' Hoddle is churning out is really running the risk of alienating a large proportion of fans.JM will not be obliviousto this as we move towards s/ticket renewal.As Franksie said on WM,GH is sucking the life out of the club.£500k maybe a large price to pay for dispensing with Hoddle but I think the price of keeping him may be much,much higher.
Completely wrong, gates are 20-25% down this season compared to last. That is falling significantly and they will fall even more next season unless something drastic happens.
That's obviously one of the most important factors now I.D. Putting the results aside for one moment,the type of 'football' Hoddle is churning out is really running the risk of alienating a large proportion of fans.JM will not be obliviousto this as we move towards s/ticket renewal.As Franksie said on WM,GH is sucking the life out of the club.£500k maybe a large price to pay for dispensing with Hoddle but I think the price of keeping him may be much,much higher.
dazmanwolf
04-02-2006, 19:17
The early bird is being taken up once again
Sorry, but have I missed something?
We haven't had any announcement on this have we?
No, but it will be taken up - the "just in case we do well" mentality will always win as it did when we were in the Prem and the offer came out.
Sorry, but have I missed something?
We haven't had any announcement on this have we?
No, but it will be taken up - the "just in case we do well" mentality will always win as it did when we were in the Prem and the offer came out.
Bumbamuffin
04-02-2006, 19:19
The early bird is being taken up once again
Sorry, but have I missed something?
We haven't had any announcement on this have we?
No, but it will be taken up - the "just in case we do well" mentality will always win as it did when we were in the Prem and the offer came out.
Are you saying fans will renew in their 1000's again? Are you sure?
Sorry, but have I missed something?
We haven't had any announcement on this have we?
No, but it will be taken up - the "just in case we do well" mentality will always win as it did when we were in the Prem and the offer came out.
Are you saying fans will renew in their 1000's again? Are you sure?
Hatch End Wolf
04-02-2006, 19:19
Anybody who actually goes to games at the Mol can clearly see that "true" gates are down. It's only by counting all the ST's, including the non-attenders, that the gatescan beclaimed to be near 20,000.
I'll renew my season ticket next May / June, because I've been going down the Mol for so long I'm almost immune to suffering. However, non-addictswon't carry on spending their money the way I do and only the most fervent happy clapper would expect less than a 25% - 30% decrease in ST sales for next season. Maybe even worse!
I'll renew my season ticket next May / June, because I've been going down the Mol for so long I'm almost immune to suffering. However, non-addictswon't carry on spending their money the way I do and only the most fervent happy clapper would expect less than a 25% - 30% decrease in ST sales for next season. Maybe even worse!
IMAB
04-02-2006, 19:20
The early bird is being taken up once again
Sorry, but have I missed something?
We haven't had any announcement on this have we?
No, but it will be taken up - the "just in case we do well" mentality will always win as it did when we were in the Prem and the offer came out.
Are you talking about fans?
To my knowledge no announcement has come from the club to suggest we are having an early bird this year.
Sorry, but have I missed something?
We haven't had any announcement on this have we?
No, but it will be taken up - the "just in case we do well" mentality will always win as it did when we were in the Prem and the offer came out.
Are you talking about fans?
To my knowledge no announcement has come from the club to suggest we are having an early bird this year.
dazmanwolf
04-02-2006, 19:24
The early bird is being taken up once again
Sorry, but have I missed something?
We haven't had any announcement on this have we?
No, but it will be taken up - the "just in case we do well" mentality will always win as it did when we were in the Prem and the offer came out.
Are you saying fans will renew in their 1000's again? Are you sure?
A true fan will support the team whatever state it is in!
Sorry, but have I missed something?
We haven't had any announcement on this have we?
No, but it will be taken up - the "just in case we do well" mentality will always win as it did when we were in the Prem and the offer came out.
Are you saying fans will renew in their 1000's again? Are you sure?
A true fan will support the team whatever state it is in!
IMAB
04-02-2006, 19:25
The early bird is being taken up once again
Sorry, but have I missed something?
We haven't had any announcement on this have we?
No, but it will be taken up - the "just in case we do well" mentality will always win as it did when we were in the Prem and the offer came out.
Are you saying fans will renew in their 1000's again? Are you sure?
A true fan will support the team whatever state it is in!
But we only have 4000 "true" fans.
Sorry, but have I missed something?
We haven't had any announcement on this have we?
No, but it will be taken up - the "just in case we do well" mentality will always win as it did when we were in the Prem and the offer came out.
Are you saying fans will renew in their 1000's again? Are you sure?
A true fan will support the team whatever state it is in!
But we only have 4000 "true" fans.
dazmanwolf
04-02-2006, 19:25
The early bird is being taken up once again
Sorry, but have I missed something?
We haven't had any announcement on this have we?
No, but it will be taken up - the "just in case we do well" mentality will always win as it did when we were in the Prem and the offer came out.
Are you talking about fans?
To my knowledge no announcement has come from the club to suggest we are having an early bird this year.
I have read it somewhere online that it will be given as an option - not sure where, but I do trawl the web about Wolves most nights seeing as there is nothing better to do apart from being shot at!smileys/smiley2.gif
Sorry, but have I missed something?
We haven't had any announcement on this have we?
No, but it will be taken up - the "just in case we do well" mentality will always win as it did when we were in the Prem and the offer came out.
Are you talking about fans?
To my knowledge no announcement has come from the club to suggest we are having an early bird this year.
I have read it somewhere online that it will be given as an option - not sure where, but I do trawl the web about Wolves most nights seeing as there is nothing better to do apart from being shot at!smileys/smiley2.gif
IMAB
04-02-2006, 19:29
I have read it somewhere online that it will be given as an option - not sure where, but I do trawl the web about Wolves most nights seeing as there is nothing better to do apart from being shot at!smileys/smiley2.gif
I'm very doubtful it will be offered. We have to survive without a parachute pyment, so Jez may want full whack out of everybody esle.
I'm very doubtful it will be offered. We have to survive without a parachute pyment, so Jez may want full whack out of everybody esle.
dazmanwolf
04-02-2006, 19:37
I have read it somewhere online that it will be given as an option - not sure where, but I do trawl the web about Wolves most nights seeing as there is nothing better to do apart from being shot at!smileys/smiley2.gif
I'm very doubtful it will be offered. We have to survive without a parachute pyment, so Jez may want full whack out of everybody esle.
Then I predict a slightly cheaper ST and a view to get more fans in!
Business promotional offers etc - he will always get his money in. Moxey may be a c*!$!, but he is a good businessman.
I'm very doubtful it will be offered. We have to survive without a parachute pyment, so Jez may want full whack out of everybody esle.
Then I predict a slightly cheaper ST and a view to get more fans in!
Business promotional offers etc - he will always get his money in. Moxey may be a c*!$!, but he is a good businessman.
IMAB
04-02-2006, 19:43
I have read it somewhere online that it will be given as an option - not sure where, but I do trawl the web about Wolves most nights seeing as there is nothing better to do apart from being shot at!smileys/smiley2.gif
I'm very doubtful it will be offered. We have to survive without a parachute pyment, so Jez may want full whack out of everybody esle.
Then I predict a slightly cheaper ST and a view to get more fans in!
Business promotional offers etc - he will always get his money in. Moxey may be a c*!$!, but he is a good businessman.
Slightly cheaper than what?
The £345 I paid early bird, or the £414 full price?
I'm very doubtful it will be offered. We have to survive without a parachute pyment, so Jez may want full whack out of everybody esle.
Then I predict a slightly cheaper ST and a view to get more fans in!
Business promotional offers etc - he will always get his money in. Moxey may be a c*!$!, but he is a good businessman.
Slightly cheaper than what?
The £345 I paid early bird, or the £414 full price?
Taffywolf
04-02-2006, 19:48
The biggest problem I think is that we play the game at such a slow tempo, Lots of passes but because alot of them go sideways and not forward it gives the opposition time to get 10 men behind the ball, Then we dont have the players that can hurt teams. We have no width in the side and we probably have 1 of the best centre forwards that would thrive on crosses. If Cort was in the Reading team he would of scored a hat full...
Patience is wearing thin, When was the last time we had a manager that showed the fans passion?? The type we see off Paul Ince or Martin Allen????
Patience is wearing thin, When was the last time we had a manager that showed the fans passion?? The type we see off Paul Ince or Martin Allen????
dazmanwolf
04-02-2006, 19:49
I have read it somewhere online that it will be given as an option - not sure where, but I do trawl the web about Wolves most nights seeing as there is nothing better to do apart from being shot at!smileys/smiley2.gif
I'm very doubtful it will be offered. We have to survive without a parachute pyment, so Jez may want full whack out of everybody esle.
Then I predict a slightly cheaper ST and a view to get more fans in!
Business promotional offers etc - he will always get his money in. Moxey may be a c*!$!, but he is a good businessman.
Slightly cheaper than what?
The £345 I paid early bird, or the £414 full price?
Any money off is a bonus!
I think Moxey will hit the Corporate side more than the fans.
We can argue all night, but Moxey is shrewd with money and will get it somehow.
That may mean selling players to make up for the shortfall in ST sales should that happen.
I used to think like a fan where Wolves are concerned, but now I have to think like a businessman and a fan to get the full perspective.
Its a viscious circle.
I'm very doubtful it will be offered. We have to survive without a parachute pyment, so Jez may want full whack out of everybody esle.
Then I predict a slightly cheaper ST and a view to get more fans in!
Business promotional offers etc - he will always get his money in. Moxey may be a c*!$!, but he is a good businessman.
Slightly cheaper than what?
The £345 I paid early bird, or the £414 full price?
Any money off is a bonus!
I think Moxey will hit the Corporate side more than the fans.
We can argue all night, but Moxey is shrewd with money and will get it somehow.
That may mean selling players to make up for the shortfall in ST sales should that happen.
I used to think like a fan where Wolves are concerned, but now I have to think like a businessman and a fan to get the full perspective.
Its a viscious circle.
derbyrameater
04-02-2006, 19:52
and I`m thinking like a business man when I dont renew my st, the b!$*!$*ds think they can have every way, well not with me they aint.
IMAB
04-02-2006, 19:53
Any money off is a bonus!
How is it a bonus to me if my ticket goes up from £345 to £410?
That would still be money off the full price, and I'd be very unhappy if it costs that much next year.
How is it a bonus to me if my ticket goes up from £345 to £410?
That would still be money off the full price, and I'd be very unhappy if it costs that much next year.
The Punisher
04-02-2006, 20:09
Obviously I've voted to fire the new incompetent one!
London Wolves
04-02-2006, 21:01
Keep Hoddle & give him £10 mill for new players in the close season.
The only reason we went up last time was because DJ spent. We would have stayed up as well if he was given the £20 mill he was promised!
The only reason we went up last time was because DJ spent. We would have stayed up as well if he was given the £20 mill he was promised!
The Punisher
04-02-2006, 21:08
I take it you are joking London Wolf!
You could give Hoddle £20 million and he would still screw it up the wall with his crap formation and tactics.
I would like to refer you to Reading who are currently 36 points clear of ourselves and Watford who are firmly established in the play offs.
Have they had to spend £10 million this season? The answer is no. They have a policy of signing YOUNG, HUNGRY players from the lower leagues not past it has beens from the premiership and unkown quantities from Europe!
Of further note both of these sides play 4-4-2. Not rocket science is it?!smileys/smiley7.gif
You could give Hoddle £20 million and he would still screw it up the wall with his crap formation and tactics.
I would like to refer you to Reading who are currently 36 points clear of ourselves and Watford who are firmly established in the play offs.
Have they had to spend £10 million this season? The answer is no. They have a policy of signing YOUNG, HUNGRY players from the lower leagues not past it has beens from the premiership and unkown quantities from Europe!
Of further note both of these sides play 4-4-2. Not rocket science is it?!smileys/smiley7.gif
derbyrameater
04-02-2006, 21:18
one thing I`ve noticed about Reading (forget the rivalry crap) is they have been floating around the top for a few years now and finally looked to have cracked it, but they have had several managers poached off them and they have come back with a new manager each time. What are they doing rigt that we are not?
Balti Pie
04-02-2006, 21:24
I voted for him to stay. I wish he would attempt the 4-4-2 system, but
I do feel the players have a lot to answer for. The only players who
have any real drive and determination are Ince (38) and Cameron (33).
The rest just don't want to know.
I do feel the players have a lot to answer for. The only players who
have any real drive and determination are Ince (38) and Cameron (33).
The rest just don't want to know.
derbyrameater
04-02-2006, 21:29
Balti you vote for him to stay, then state that Cameron is one of the few players with drive and determinationbut Goddle wants to get rid and doesnt play him, a bit of a contrdiction don`t you think.
Bankswolf II
04-02-2006, 21:42
That team that played was possibly the best 11 we could field bar perhaps Murray, Cameron and Adadare and we came up against aLeicester side in turmoil and lost.
I would love to say that it was a one off but he has been here a year now and all this time he has done nothing but fustrate and continue to play football that allows teams the opportunity to bring the game to us and have chances when it should be us bombarded the goal at every given opportunity. Its gone on far enough now we are 8 points away from play offs with nothing to really say that we will get back in it.
Time to go i feel
I would love to say that it was a one off but he has been here a year now and all this time he has done nothing but fustrate and continue to play football that allows teams the opportunity to bring the game to us and have chances when it should be us bombarded the goal at every given opportunity. Its gone on far enough now we are 8 points away from play offs with nothing to really say that we will get back in it.
Time to go i feel
Deutsch Wolf
04-02-2006, 22:25
No away goals all year and no goals full stop in the last three games tells its own story. I'ma bit dubious about whether this is a "turning point" in the minds of supporters, particularly as we've been having Hoddle Out threads since October.
Personally, unless the board know that they can attract someone like Martin Allen without paying too much compensation, and know that Hoddle will go without too much fuss, I wouldn't get rid now. Any new manager can't sign anyone (due to the window) and as disappointing as recent results have been, replacing a manager in mid-season doesn't often work (I know very well that there are exceptions). Keep it as it is for the rest of the season and if we haven't made the play-offs, as seems likely, then it's goodbye Glenn.
Personally, unless the board know that they can attract someone like Martin Allen without paying too much compensation, and know that Hoddle will go without too much fuss, I wouldn't get rid now. Any new manager can't sign anyone (due to the window) and as disappointing as recent results have been, replacing a manager in mid-season doesn't often work (I know very well that there are exceptions). Keep it as it is for the rest of the season and if we haven't made the play-offs, as seems likely, then it's goodbye Glenn.
IMAB
04-02-2006, 22:28
. Any new manager can't sign anyone (due to the window) and as disappointing as recent results have been, replacing a manager in mid-season doesn't often work (I know very well that there are exceptions). Keep it as it is for the rest of the season and if we haven't made the play-offs, as seems likely, then it's goodbye Glenn.
Your saying give up and accept failure, why not get rid and try Ince til the summer. No extra cost and could it get any worse? It might improve things.
Your saying give up and accept failure, why not get rid and try Ince til the summer. No extra cost and could it get any worse? It might improve things.
The Punisher
04-02-2006, 22:33
If we're going to give up we may aswell give Ince the job until the end of the season and get rid of Hoddle now! Whats the point of keeping him here? Face it we're not improving we're getting worse!
OldWolvesfart
04-02-2006, 22:44
No away goals all year and no goals full stop in
the last three games tells its own story. I'm$a bit dubious about whether
this is a "turning point" in the minds of supporters, particularly as we've
been having Hoddle Out threads since October.
Personally, unless the board know that they can attract someone like
Martin Allen without paying too much compensation, and know that
Hoddle will go without too much fuss, I wouldn't get rid now. Any new
manager can't sign anyone (due to the window) and as disappointing as
recent results have been, replacing a manager in mid-season doesn't
often work (I know very well that there are exceptions). Keep it as it is for
the rest of the season and if we haven't made the play-offs, as seems
likely, then it's goodbye Glenn.
The voice of sanity and reason, just what others have been saying
elsewhere, hang him high but only after due deliberation and only if
finally proven guilty of all offences and please dont attempt mid-season
management changes, it rarely works, give him time and enough rope.
the last three games tells its own story. I'm$a bit dubious about whether
this is a "turning point" in the minds of supporters, particularly as we've
been having Hoddle Out threads since October.
Personally, unless the board know that they can attract someone like
Martin Allen without paying too much compensation, and know that
Hoddle will go without too much fuss, I wouldn't get rid now. Any new
manager can't sign anyone (due to the window) and as disappointing as
recent results have been, replacing a manager in mid-season doesn't
often work (I know very well that there are exceptions). Keep it as it is for
the rest of the season and if we haven't made the play-offs, as seems
likely, then it's goodbye Glenn.
The voice of sanity and reason, just what others have been saying
elsewhere, hang him high but only after due deliberation and only if
finally proven guilty of all offences and please dont attempt mid-season
management changes, it rarely works, give him time and enough rope.
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