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dolph
11-02-2012, 21:35
With sky putting us at 16th and the BBC putting QPR at 16th I was wondering who actually is 16th?

Same pts,gls for and against etc.

Obviously this will change tomorrow, hopefully for the better, but if the million to one thing happened at the end of the season and it was between 17th and 18th place, how would it be worked out?

Nero wolf
11-02-2012, 21:38
Q before W
Alphabet.

WolvesAreBoringOnCeefax
11-02-2012, 21:38
Far as I'm aware it's

Points, goal difference, goals scored, alphabetical order

Though it wouldn't seem very fair if we were relegated on W being near the end of the alphabet! Gotta be more criteria. Fairly sure head to head record doesn't come into it...

dolph
11-02-2012, 21:39
Is it honestly that simple? Would we go down because of our name?

Would be wolves luck I suppose!

Boss Hogg
11-02-2012, 21:41
Isn't there a special 'playoff' game in the event of a tie on points, GD, goals and the head to head results?

Penk Wolf
11-02-2012, 21:42
There would be a play off, however after the game tomorrow we will be separated.

rincewind
11-02-2012, 21:43
Is it honestly that simple? Would we go down because of our name?

Would be wolves luck I suppose!

No! Alphabetical anomalies don't count otherwise every club would be AAAAAAAAAAAAWolves or whatever.
It would be points, GD, goals for, goals against. Not sure if the English leagues recognise the idea of best record against each other but doubt it so if it happened we would go to a playoff.

Henry's Tackle
11-02-2012, 21:44
There would be a play off, however after the game tomorrow we will be separated.

I like your optimism :D

arctic rime
11-02-2012, 21:45
less games means we should be 16th , anyway we will be tomorrow

Jonny De Wolf
11-02-2012, 21:45
QPR 16th due to "head to head" results
I presumed that but when searchingnet to confirm got this:

If two or more teams are equal on points, then the winner is determined by goal difference, then if necessary by the number of goals scored. Where teams are equal on points, the number of goals scored and goal difference then there will be a play off to determine the winner. The Premier League does not look at the head-to-head record

IrchyWolf
11-02-2012, 21:48
No! Alphabetical anomalies don't count otherwise every club would be AAAAAAAAAAAAWolves or whatever.
It would be points, GD, goals for, goals against. Not sure if the English leagues recognise the idea of best record against each other but doubt it so if it happened we would go to a playoff.

It's not record against each other but the toss of a coin, incredibly.

Penk Wolf
11-02-2012, 21:51
It's not record against each other but the toss of a coin, incredibly.

Someone posted the PL rules earlier and is via a play-off.

Jonny De Wolf
11-02-2012, 21:53
It's not record against each other but the toss of a coin, incredibly.

Found on net :
If two or more teams are equal on points, then the winner is determined by goal difference, then if necessary by the number of goals scored. Where teams are equal on points, the number of goals scored and goal difference then there will be a play off to determine the winner. The Premier League does not look at the head-to-head record

Golden_Wolf
11-02-2012, 21:55
According to BBC & Sky Sports table we're 17th.

dolph
11-02-2012, 21:58
We're 16th on my sky sports app

http://img.tapatalk.com/5ad07ff5-e47e-df68.jpg

Golden_Wolf
11-02-2012, 22:00
Very odd.

On their website; we're 17th.

Oh well, least hope we're 16th tomorrow and sitting on 24points to avoid any confusion lol.

Adrian_Monk
11-02-2012, 22:12
The FA announced a while ago that a play off would be played abroad in the event of identical finishes

IrchyWolf
11-02-2012, 22:13
Someone posted the PL rules earlier and is via a play-off.
I stand corrected BUT it was the toss of a coin at some stage previously.:embarassed:

spittlep
11-02-2012, 22:19
I like your optimism :D


Its true
If we draw or win we will be above QPR on points
If we lose we will be below QPR on goal difference

Nero wolf
11-02-2012, 22:36
Its true
If we draw or win we will be above QPR on points
If we lose we will be below QPR on goal difference


In the short run..it will make all the difference in the world.
In the long run though,Hughes will prove better than McCarthy and Cisse and Zamora will prove to be stronger than Bassong and Eggy.

Especially Eggy....

Sutton Wolf
11-02-2012, 23:15
QPR have lost more games than us so they should be 17th and we are 16th,simple.

Dewsburywolf
11-02-2012, 23:28
The FA announced a while ago that a play off would be played abroad in the event of identical finishes

Why there? why not neutral venue in England? Stadium MK?

PeteWolf
11-02-2012, 23:31
Why there? why not neutral venue in England? Stadium MK?
Why on earth take it to a sub-25k capacity third division stadium? The Millennium Stadium or Old Trafford will do.

Dewsburywolf
11-02-2012, 23:32
Millennium Stadium.


Even better, I was trying to think of a midpoint venue

PeteWolf
11-02-2012, 23:34
Even better, I was trying to think of a midpoint venue
Fair enough, although knowing the powers that be, the FA would be all for whoring out Wembley, whilst the PL would probably want to take it somewhere in the middle east where none of us have a chance of watching our clubs fate.

AW
11-02-2012, 23:43
I stand corrected BUT it was the toss of a coin at some stage previously.:embarassed:

It used to be the toss of a coin to settle cup matches before kicks from the penalty mark were introduced.

Golden_Wolf
12-02-2012, 00:37
In the short run..it will make all the difference in the world.
In the long run though,Hughes will prove better than McCarthy and Cisse and Zamora will prove to be stronger than Bassong and Eggy.

Especially Eggy....

Unless QPR go down this season & we stay up.

Berlin Wolf
12-02-2012, 07:20
The FA announced a while ago that a play off would be played abroad in the event of identical finishes

If a play-off had to be played abroad then how about it being played in Berlin...

Some nice Olympic Stadium info in English.

Olympic Stadium (Berlin) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Stadium_(Berlin))

http://www.olympiastadion-berlin.de/en.html

Worth mentioning: After sacking Markus Babbel before Xmas, Hertha Berlin got themselves a new manager in the winter break, Michael Skibbe.

They have since lost five on the bounce, with a 5-0 drubbing at Stuttgart yesterday.

Out of the German Cup, and four league defeats sees them slip towards the bottom of the Bundesliga.

Salisbury Wolf
12-02-2012, 08:22
Nah Phil - Millerntor Stadion - Arrive the day before, party, play the game, win, party.

Berlin Wolf
12-02-2012, 10:05
Nah Phil - Millerntor Stadion - Arrive the day before, party, play the game, win, party.

Good idea, Paul.

Play the game in St Pauli, win, and party down the Reeperbahn...:cool:

kennyB
12-02-2012, 11:12
Would be happy to play it at the Noucamp!

spittlep
12-02-2012, 11:18
Don't the FA think that anywhere outside of London is abroad???

PeteWolf
12-02-2012, 19:40
Que sera, sera,
Whatever will be, will be,
No need to book Wemberley.
$$$$ off McCarthy...