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Smifffy58
01-02-2012, 20:58
The manager I wanted us to have.
Only Man Ure have got more points than Sunderland since he has been there.
Says it all.

Dewsburywolf
01-02-2012, 21:00
He's a lifelong Sunderland fan, was NEVER gonna come to Wolves or many other similar sized club

Essex Wolf
01-02-2012, 21:01
The manager I wanted us to have.
Only Man Ure have got more points than Sunderland since he has been there.
Says it all.

Careful what you say Smifffy.

Those of us who highlighted the need for a change of manager were lambasted by the Mick love in brigade even though the facts clearly show he is clueless right now and so out of his depth he's embarrassing himself and the club.

Had the right and proper decision been made Wolves just may have had a much better chance of survival then they do right now.

And it's sod all to do with hindsight either. The writing was on the wall long ago.

You are most likely right Dews but the point here is that a new manager was needed. Didn't have to be MON but his appointment at Sunderland, like Hughes at QPR has shown an improvement in the respective clubs results.

Metal Wolf89
01-02-2012, 21:01
He's a lifelong Sunderland fan, was NEVER gonna come to Wolves or many other similar sized club

Offer em enough money and they will come...

Adrian_Monk
01-02-2012, 21:03
He's a lifelong Sunderland fan, was NEVER gonna come to Wolves or many other similar sized club

He agreed to go to Southampton before a disagreement with the chairman

Tring Wolf
01-02-2012, 21:06
Careful what you say Smifffy.

Those of us who highlighted the need for a change of manager were lambasted by the Mick love in brigade even though the facts clearly show he is clueless right now and so out of his depth he's embarrassing himself and the club.

Had the right and proper decision been made Wolves just may have had a much better chance of survival then they do right now.

And it's sod all to do with hindsight either. The writing was on the wall long ago.

You are most likely right Dews but the point here is that a new manager was needed. Didn't have to be MON but his appointment at Sunderland, like Hughes at QPR has shown an improvement in the respective clubs results.

I'm a big fan of Mick's but I (and I'm guessing most of the 'Mick love-in brigade') would have loved O'Neill here. Unfortunately, I just don't think we could have persuaded him to come.

wallace
01-02-2012, 21:06
oneill inherited a good quality of players at sunderland, something he wouldnt have had here so he would have wanted a good level of cash investment to build the squad but he wouldnt have got that.

306NOTOUT
01-02-2012, 21:16
He has also been pretty lucky with players coming back from injury

wolvesman
01-02-2012, 22:08
Flattered to deceive at the Vile and the left them in the poo.
He could double for Brains in a remake of Thunderbirds though.

JOSWolf
01-02-2012, 22:10
Hes done very well there. A quality manager. I'm not surprised they have looked far better and more organised since he has been there. I only wish we had got him.

goldeneyed
01-02-2012, 22:33
He's a lifelong Sunderland fan, was NEVER gonna come to Wolves or many other similar sized club

These kinds of statements, often repeated, are nonsense. Before the Sunderland job came up we could easily have been a viable opportunity for him and I reckon Morgan would have been prepared to back him far more financially than McCarthy. A definite misssed opportunity not to snap him up with a lucrative package. There are very few British managers of his calibre around and one lesson Morgan needs to learn from this is that if quality is available in any area you have to act decisively and can't afford to be sentimental about current staff and plug away with them beyond their sell by date.

PeteWolf
01-02-2012, 22:41
Stability, people, stability...

Dubwolf71
01-02-2012, 22:42
He's a lifelong Sunderland fan, was NEVER gonna come to Wolves or many other similar sized club
He was on the verge of taking the West Ham job last year until the Porn brothers messed it up and he backed out (that doesn't sound right:D).

Adrian_Monk
01-02-2012, 22:55
He was on the verge of taking the West Ham job last year until the Porn brothers messed it up and he backed out (that doesn't sound right:D).

He'd accepted Southampton as well. He was under the impression the job was his but one of the directors wasn't sure so he walked away from it. He'd even got a property sorted.

It's Mixu Paatelainen
02-02-2012, 00:58
The manager I wanted us to have.
Only Man Ure have got more points than Sunderland since he has been there.
Says it all.

Surely we should have offered Alex Ferguson the job then? Offer him enough money and he will come, after all.

wolfjc
02-02-2012, 10:27
He's a great manager! sunderland were class last night!!

OCD Wolf
02-02-2012, 10:38
We've missed the boat on changing manager now, something for which I'll never forgive our spineless board.

PumpKing
02-02-2012, 10:39
Surely we should have offered Alex Ferguson the job then? Offer him enough money and he will come, after all.


Why on earth hasn`t someone thought of doing THIS before?

It`s the obvoius solution folks.:stupido3:

Edgmond Wolf
02-02-2012, 10:43
Martin O Neil is without doubt a very good if not great manager. Take a look at where Villa were with him in charge and what happened when he left.

I have always liked him as a manager and have often thought he might end up at a big club.

That said we have a manager that put life back into our club, built a team of kids that won the Championship as Champions and for that I will be ever grateful to him. He made us a team to be proud of. He has also kept us up for two seasons and may well do it again this season, we still have 15 games left to turn our season around

Come on the Wolves

Mutchy
02-02-2012, 10:49
Interesting chat on Sky last night, with Neil Lennon talking about Martin O'Neil's management methods. Has little to do with the players day to day, doesn't put much emphasis on tactics, or prepare for team formations, but when he does talk the players really listen.

BigBadWolfie
02-02-2012, 10:50
He was on the verge of taking the West Ham job last year until the Porn brothers messed it up and he backed out (that doesn't sound right:D).

O'neill got cold feet when he found out they weren't going to allow him to spunk their wad up the wall (hang on ... that doesn't sound right either ;))

Ginger Chimp
02-02-2012, 10:55
Flattered to deceive at the Vile ...
Three top 6 finishes, wasn't it?

That's not flattering to deceive.

Ginger Chimp
02-02-2012, 10:56
Interesting chat on Sky last night, with Neil Lennon talking about Martin O'Neil's management methods. Has little to do with the players day to day, doesn't put much emphasis on tactics, or prepare for team formations ...

Ha! I could do that.

Edgmond Wolf
02-02-2012, 10:58
Interesting chat on Sky last night, with Neil Lennon talking about Martin O'Neil's management methods. Has little to do with the players day to day, doesn't put much emphasis on tactics, or prepare for team formations, but when he does talk the players really listen.


Good manager, I think Mick would do better if we invested in some good coaches and Mick concentrated on motivating the players which I think he is good at and picking the team

It's Mixu Paatelainen
02-02-2012, 11:02
Good manager, I think Mick would do better if we invested in some good coaches and Mick concentrated on motivating the players which I think he is good at and picking the team

I think Hoddle tried the same idea, but it ended in obvious disaster. Mick would have a better chance of pulling it off, because his idea of man-management is not faith-healers and R Kelly CD's.

Edgmond Wolf
02-02-2012, 11:06
I think Hoddle tried the same idea, but it ended in obvious disaster. Mick would have a better chance of pulling it off, because his idea of man-management is not faith-healers and R Kelly CD's.


Agree my only concern is he is a bit stubborn!!

I wish we went out and got ourselves a good defensive coach. Its exactly what Fergie does!!

WestChiltingtonwolf
02-02-2012, 11:22
Careful what you say Smifffy.

Those of us who highlighted the need for a change of manager were lambasted by the Mick love in brigade even though the facts clearly show he is clueless right now and so out of his depth he's embarrassing himself and the club.

Had the right and proper decision been made Wolves just may have had a much better chance of survival then they do right now.

And it's sod all to do with hindsight either. The writing was on the wall long ago.

You are most likely right Dews but the point here is that a new manager was needed. Didn't have to be MON but his appointment at Sunderland, like Hughes at QPR has shown an improvement in the respective clubs results.

Just because MON is a good manager does not make your point correct. a lot of people suggesting MON (who I think is a good manager) have also (and some still are!) thought Roy Keane and Paul Ince were the answer.

Anyone could get a return from QPR with money -buying Cisse and Zamora on massive wages is not good management.

Polish Wolf
02-02-2012, 11:30
Martin O'Neill and Mark Hughes are both quality managers with proven track record in the Premier League. The club should have gone for one of them as I think we would have every chance of getting them. We are no smaller club than QPR or Sunderland. With both managers being jobless at the time and Warnock's and Bruce's job had not been hanging on a thread for that long (fairly quick axe in both cases) we wouldn't have to compete with these clubs anyway.

Especially with Martin O'Neill we could build on for the future top half finishes. Contrary to popular belief he doesn't need that big money to succeed. Did he have big money at Leicester or Celtic? In Villa it was arguably bigger money but as said before he made them a feature in the top 6 and look how far from top 6 they are now.

The club did not show ambition and I see it as opportunity missed. That we hit a glass ceiling with Mick is no rocket science. Third year in a row in the PL and I can see no progress, mind you, we are going backwards.

Buddhawolf
02-02-2012, 11:48
I don't buy this "we wouldn't get him" etc. Managers are like players - offer them enough cash (and a pot of money to spend) and they'll come. Believe we could get the likes of MON, Moyes, Lambert etc if the board had the ambition to do so.

Instead, we'll have some cheap (i.e. out of work / grateful for the job (so don't make demands about transfer funds) option to replace MM (who I think will go this weekend if we get a drubbing at QPR).

churchdowner
02-02-2012, 15:38
It amazes me when oneil was available most posters on here where saying no to us getting him. But now he is the bloody mesiah and he would have turned us around. And the same being said about Mark Hughes.:confused:

Edgmond Wolf
02-02-2012, 15:39
It amazes me when oneil was available most posters on here where saying no to us getting him. But now he is the bloody mesiah and he would have turned us around. And the same being said about Mark Hughes.:confused:


I am still being consistant, like MON but stick with MM