Kenny-11
19-01-2006, 10:55
Pre-contract at Celtic - Now confirmed
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Wombourne Wolf
19-01-2006, 10:56
Atleast we've got him until the end of the season - Ive no doubt he will give us 100% lets hope his last goal is the winner at Cardiff in May.
WTID!
19-01-2006, 10:58
Yeah confirmed on the Celtic site.
http://www.celticfc.co.uk/newsroom/news.aspx?id='2006-01-19_ 1048ss' (http://www.celticfc.co.uk/newsroom/news.aspx?id='2006-01-19_1048ss')
http://www.celticfc.co.uk/newsroom/news.aspx?id='2006-01-19_ 1048ss' (http://www.celticfc.co.uk/newsroom/news.aspx?id='2006-01-19_1048ss')
Essex Wolf
19-01-2006, 11:00
Do Wolves actually make any money this way?
Markwolf
19-01-2006, 11:02
I just hope he isnt vilified now tbh - As long as he gives it everything like he has been doing that is! You cant blame him for going really, at least he has gone back to Scotland as he indicated he wanted to. It would have been a real kick in the sac if he had wound up at Blackburn or the like.
Markwolf
19-01-2006, 11:02
Do Wolves actually make any money this way?
Nope
Nope
Visage Wolf
19-01-2006, 11:04
Good luck to him. As said, lets hope his final contribution is a winner at Cardiff.
19th Holer
19-01-2006, 11:04
We make no money and we've got a wantaway player on our hands who isn't likely to bust a gut anymore.
Cannot be considered for the first team now. Moxey needs to do a deal with Celtic so they can have him now.
Cannot be considered for the first team now. Moxey needs to do a deal with Celtic so they can have him now.
Bristol Wolf
19-01-2006, 11:05
Kenneth, a few last favours mate
1) Stick one over the Mancs for us again
2) Helllllpp us get out of this stupid division one last time
Cheers...Ya northern mo...........
1) Stick one over the Mancs for us again
2) Helllllpp us get out of this stupid division one last time
Cheers...Ya northern mo...........
Lupo Italiano
19-01-2006, 11:05
I don't blame him for going either but I would rather he left now and we could bring fresh new faces in and move forward from here.
Bill McCai
19-01-2006, 11:05
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Be interesting to see what stance the Chav Bank takes on this!
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Be interesting to see what stance the Chav Bank takes on this!
Kenny-11
19-01-2006, 11:06
Rangers fans - Not Happy
Celtic fans - Not Happy
Good move Kenneth
Celtic fans - Not Happy
Good move Kenneth
Bill McCai
19-01-2006, 11:07
Lets hope its not another <?:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><ST1:CITY w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on">Muscat</ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY> situation!
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Be interesting to see what stance the Chav Bank takes on this!
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i feel that miller should not be picked anymore... the season isnt over yet but id go out sign a striker and make miller train with the kids that way he wont feel so big and high and mighty , i knew this would happen kenny miller you are a w!$*er and always will be
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i feel that miller should not be picked anymore... the season isnt over yet but id go out sign a striker and make miller train with the kids that way he wont feel so big and high and mighty , i knew this would happen kenny miller you are a w!$*er and always will be
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Visage Wolf
19-01-2006, 11:07
We make no money and we've got a wantaway player on our hands who isn't likely to bust a gut anymore.
Cannot be considered for the first team now. Moxey needs to do a deal with Celtic so they can have him now.
I disagree. There's no reason to suspect Kenny wont give 100%, just like Alex Rae did.
Cannot be considered for the first team now. Moxey needs to do a deal with Celtic so they can have him now.
I disagree. There's no reason to suspect Kenny wont give 100%, just like Alex Rae did.
Kenny-11
19-01-2006, 11:07
"Kenny Miller"
"My efforts now go into getting Wolves promoted"
"My efforts now go into getting Wolves promoted"
SOA Wolf
19-01-2006, 11:08
Visage, I agree, well done Kenny...and good luck to him....makes a mockery of turning down the Sunderland money doesn't it?
19th Holer
19-01-2006, 11:10
We make no money and we've got a wantaway player on our hands who isn't likely to bust a gut anymore.
Cannot be considered for the first team now. Moxey needs to do a deal with Celtic so they can have him now.
I disagree. There's no reason to suspect Kenny wont give 100%, just like Alex Rae did.
Wrong, Rae's performances dipped markedly towards the end of that season. Miller's contribution this season has been minimal anyway. Headless chicken mode doesn't count as contribution.
Cannot be considered for the first team now. Moxey needs to do a deal with Celtic so they can have him now.
I disagree. There's no reason to suspect Kenny wont give 100%, just like Alex Rae did.
Wrong, Rae's performances dipped markedly towards the end of that season. Miller's contribution this season has been minimal anyway. Headless chicken mode doesn't count as contribution.
Visage Wolf
19-01-2006, 11:11
Visage, I agree, well done Kenny...and good luck to him....makes a mockery of turning down the Sunderland money doesn't it?
Yes, to a certain extent. Only at the end of the season will we know - Kenny may have scored the goals that get us promoted, or he may be disinterested and we finish 7th.
AT this moment in time either could happen, but that wont stop certain people crowing with 20/20 hindsight either way.....
Yes, to a certain extent. Only at the end of the season will we know - Kenny may have scored the goals that get us promoted, or he may be disinterested and we finish 7th.
AT this moment in time either could happen, but that wont stop certain people crowing with 20/20 hindsight either way.....
Wombourne Wolf
19-01-2006, 11:13
If he helps us get promoted through the playoffs that will be worth more than any £1m fee we would of collected for him.
Blackstrobe
19-01-2006, 11:13
Who would people now pick for the Millwall game considering that Miller has spent most of the week in talks and travelling up and down the country rather than in training?
(Thats not not meant to be a dig at Miller by the way just an innocent question)Edited by: Blackstrobe
(Thats not not meant to be a dig at Miller by the way just an innocent question)Edited by: Blackstrobe
glasgowwolf
19-01-2006, 11:14
IMHO do not play him.......
Now he is def going and has signed a pre contract agreement pay the contract off and get shot
Now he is def going and has signed a pre contract agreement pay the contract off and get shot
SOA Wolf
19-01-2006, 11:14
Visage, I agree, well done Kenny...and good luck to him....makes a mockery of turning down the Sunderland money doesn't it?
Yes, to a certain extent. Only at the end of the season will we know - Kenny may have scored the goals that get us promoted, or he may be disinterested and we finish 7th.
AT this moment in time either could happen, but that wont stop certain people crowing with 20/20 hindsight either way.....
It's not 20/20 hindsight mate....it's just that I am always proved right.smileys/smiley2.gif
Yes, to a certain extent. Only at the end of the season will we know - Kenny may have scored the goals that get us promoted, or he may be disinterested and we finish 7th.
AT this moment in time either could happen, but that wont stop certain people crowing with 20/20 hindsight either way.....
It's not 20/20 hindsight mate....it's just that I am always proved right.smileys/smiley2.gif
Stratford Wolf
19-01-2006, 11:14
Noithing against Kenny what-so-ever. He does what's best for him (like we would all put ourselves first) ... but ... we turned down 1.5m for him and he goes for free ... and Moxey calls himself a business man ... smileys/smiley36.gif
He is a laughing stock and he is turning OUR club into the same thing. This situation is way past its sell by date - get it sorted Wolves ... NOW!.
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He is a laughing stock and he is turning OUR club into the same thing. This situation is way past its sell by date - get it sorted Wolves ... NOW!.
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Lupo Italiano
19-01-2006, 11:15
Visage, I agree, well done Kenny...and good luck to him....makes a mockery of turning down the Sunderland money doesn't it?
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Doubt he would have wanted to go there though anyway as he'd be back in this godforesaken league next season.
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Doubt he would have wanted to go there though anyway as he'd be back in this godforesaken league next season.
Essex Wolf
19-01-2006, 11:15
We make no money and we've got a wantaway player on our hands who isn't likely to bust a gut anymore.
Cannot be considered for the first team now. Moxey needs to do a deal with Celtic so they can have him now.
Absolutely bloody marvelous. So this deal suits everyone except Wolves who end up paying KM's wages for a few more months.
May as well let him join Celtic now and get rid.smileys/smiley7.gif
Cannot be considered for the first team now. Moxey needs to do a deal with Celtic so they can have him now.
Absolutely bloody marvelous. So this deal suits everyone except Wolves who end up paying KM's wages for a few more months.
May as well let him join Celtic now and get rid.smileys/smiley7.gif
Bill McCai
19-01-2006, 11:16
Seeing as he could have left during the window I think you all have to agree………..THIS IS LIKE A NEW SIGNING!!!!smileys/smiley32.gif
Well done Jez and Glenn!
Well done Jez and Glenn!
SOA Wolf
19-01-2006, 11:17
Seeing as he could have left during the window I think you all have to agree………..THIS IS LIKE A NEW SIGNING!!!!smileys/smiley32.gif
Well done Jez and Glenn!
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Well done Jez and Glenn!
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Visage Wolf
19-01-2006, 11:17
Visage, I agree, well done Kenny...and good luck to him....makes a mockery of turning down the Sunderland money doesn't it?
Yes, to a certain extent. Only at the end of the season will we know - Kenny may have scored the goals that get us promoted, or he may be disinterested and we finish 7th.
AT this moment in time either could happen, but that wont stop certain people crowing with 20/20 hindsight either way.....
It's not 20/20 hindsight mate....it's just that I am always proved right.smileys/smiley2.gif
Its akin to the Camara situation - we were made offers in the 1/1.5m region, and Moxey was roundly slated for not selling. A few weeks later and he pulls off a 3m+ deal.
Swings and roundabouts - some you win, some you lose. As i say - we wont be able to say definitively until the end of the season, Wehn we can ask - 'were kenny's performances from January-May worth 1.5m quid to us?'...that, ultimately will be the same answer to 'Have we been promoted'. As said, they are question that its impossible to answer at this moment in time....
Yes, to a certain extent. Only at the end of the season will we know - Kenny may have scored the goals that get us promoted, or he may be disinterested and we finish 7th.
AT this moment in time either could happen, but that wont stop certain people crowing with 20/20 hindsight either way.....
It's not 20/20 hindsight mate....it's just that I am always proved right.smileys/smiley2.gif
Its akin to the Camara situation - we were made offers in the 1/1.5m region, and Moxey was roundly slated for not selling. A few weeks later and he pulls off a 3m+ deal.
Swings and roundabouts - some you win, some you lose. As i say - we wont be able to say definitively until the end of the season, Wehn we can ask - 'were kenny's performances from January-May worth 1.5m quid to us?'...that, ultimately will be the same answer to 'Have we been promoted'. As said, they are question that its impossible to answer at this moment in time....
Oldgold Wolfcub
19-01-2006, 11:19
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I disagree. There's no reason to suspect Kenny wont give 100%, just like Alex Rae did.
Matter of opinion in one way in that I dont think he put in as much as before and secondly of fact in how many games did he play in that second period.
I disagree. There's no reason to suspect Kenny wont give 100%, just like Alex Rae did.
Matter of opinion in one way in that I dont think he put in as much as before and secondly of fact in how many games did he play in that second period.
westside wolf
19-01-2006, 11:19
The handling of this situation has proven to be very poor by the club, we have received nothing for arguably our second most valuable asset (behind JLo), on top of that he's had a $$$$$ poor season in the goals chart. I say stick him in the reserves and build for the future. Thanks for that goal against Man U, dont forget your coat.
Kris Kringle
19-01-2006, 11:19
MEH......
What a load of predictable s!$*e. smileys/smiley32.gif
He'll be boooood before the end of Feb...
What a load of predictable s!$*e. smileys/smiley32.gif
He'll be boooood before the end of Feb...
Visage Wolf
19-01-2006, 11:21
And anyways, wasnt it Miller who turned down a move, rather than Wolves?
Kenny-11
19-01-2006, 11:23
And anyways, wasnt it Miller who turned down a move, rather than Wolves?
Sunderland - Wolves rejected 3 offers, Kenny said he would be willing to talk to them
Sheff Utd - Wolves told Kenny they had bid for him and Kenny said he had no interest in joining them.
Sunderland - Wolves rejected 3 offers, Kenny said he would be willing to talk to them
Sheff Utd - Wolves told Kenny they had bid for him and Kenny said he had no interest in joining them.
SOA Wolf
19-01-2006, 11:25
Vis, as I said, I appreciate where you come from with the not knowing, but part of the enjoyment of being a fan (and football in general) is about speculation...sort of gambling without putting a bet on. But moreover, decisions have to be made and so many of us can see so many bad decisions that apeear to be made with regularity...it really is not good enough to keep churning out 'we have learnt from our mistakes' when we are throwing good money away season after season by buying players at way over their value, paying them high wages and then dumping them out for little or no money.
If you look at the record over, say, the past 6 years this is a frightening figure...only saved by DJ getting us into the PL for one season...you can quote the Camara loan and sale deals and the Ackinbiyi sale (although top rated player in our division at present and that may have been false economy...but....) as good business, but they are pretty much alone in the ocean of bad deals.....a very costly situation that almost certainly could have been avoided with a different approach that many wanted to see.
If you look at the record over, say, the past 6 years this is a frightening figure...only saved by DJ getting us into the PL for one season...you can quote the Camara loan and sale deals and the Ackinbiyi sale (although top rated player in our division at present and that may have been false economy...but....) as good business, but they are pretty much alone in the ocean of bad deals.....a very costly situation that almost certainly could have been avoided with a different approach that many wanted to see.
Visage Wolf
19-01-2006, 11:25
And anyways, wasnt it Miller who turned down a move, rather than Wolves?
Sunderland - Wolves rejected 3 offers, Kenny said he would be willing to talk to them
Sheff Utd - Wolves told Kenny they had bid for him and Kenny said he had no interest in joining them.
Fair enough...seems strange he'd be willing to talk to the club who will be in the Championship next year, but wasnt keen on the Premiership bound team....
Sunderland - Wolves rejected 3 offers, Kenny said he would be willing to talk to them
Sheff Utd - Wolves told Kenny they had bid for him and Kenny said he had no interest in joining them.
Fair enough...seems strange he'd be willing to talk to the club who will be in the Championship next year, but wasnt keen on the Premiership bound team....
Oldgold Wolfcub
19-01-2006, 11:26
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What a prize you are. Left during the window???? If he had he would have lost out financially and we would have got some compensation. New signing?????? Yes is he prepared to go in for a challenge that might put him out for a season.
Well done Jez and Glenn!!! They have both been powerless and had to stand by and watch what has turned out to be an act of dishonesty on Miller's part.
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What a prize you are. Left during the window???? If he had he would have lost out financially and we would have got some compensation. New signing?????? Yes is he prepared to go in for a challenge that might put him out for a season.
Well done Jez and Glenn!!! They have both been powerless and had to stand by and watch what has turned out to be an act of dishonesty on Miller's part.
SOA Wolf
19-01-2006, 11:26
And anyways, wasnt it Miller who turned down a move, rather than Wolves?
Sunderland - Wolves rejected 3 offers, Kenny said he would be willing to talk to them
Sheff Utd - Wolves told Kenny they had bid for him and Kenny said he had no interest in joining them.
Fair enough...seems strange he'd be willing to talk to the club who will be in the Championship next year, but wasnt keen on the Premiership bound team....
But that was in the summer and there was no certainty that they were going straight down.
Sunderland - Wolves rejected 3 offers, Kenny said he would be willing to talk to them
Sheff Utd - Wolves told Kenny they had bid for him and Kenny said he had no interest in joining them.
Fair enough...seems strange he'd be willing to talk to the club who will be in the Championship next year, but wasnt keen on the Premiership bound team....
But that was in the summer and there was no certainty that they were going straight down.
SOA Wolf
19-01-2006, 11:28
Seeing as he could have left during the window I think you all have to agree………..THIS IS LIKE A NEW SIGNING!!!!smileys/smiley32.gif
Well done Jez and Glenn!
What a prize you are. Left during the window???? If he had he would have lost out financially and we would have got some compensation. New signing?????? Yes is he prepared to go in for a challenge that might put him out for a season.
Well done Jez and Glenn!!! They have both been powerless and had to stand by and watch what has turned out to be an act of dishonesty on Miller's part.
Bit strong OGW...why has Kenny been dishonest....he has remained on the transfer list for over a year....we have just been pathetic in dealing with it.
Well done Jez and Glenn!
What a prize you are. Left during the window???? If he had he would have lost out financially and we would have got some compensation. New signing?????? Yes is he prepared to go in for a challenge that might put him out for a season.
Well done Jez and Glenn!!! They have both been powerless and had to stand by and watch what has turned out to be an act of dishonesty on Miller's part.
Bit strong OGW...why has Kenny been dishonest....he has remained on the transfer list for over a year....we have just been pathetic in dealing with it.
yammer
19-01-2006, 11:32
Good riddance. The tims didn't have the patience to put up with Camara's woeful shooting sowill be greatfun to watch them turn on Miller.
Visage Wolf
19-01-2006, 11:32
And anyways, wasnt it Miller who turned down a move, rather than Wolves?
Sunderland - Wolves rejected 3 offers, Kenny said he would be willing to talk to them
Sheff Utd - Wolves told Kenny they had bid for him and Kenny said he had no interest in joining them.
Fair enough...seems strange he'd be willing to talk to the club who will be in the Championship next year, but wasnt keen on the Premiership bound team....
But that was in the summer and there was no certainty that they were going straight down.
Its Sunderland. 3 certanties in life: Death, Taxes and Sunderland being relegated from the Premier league.
Sunderland - Wolves rejected 3 offers, Kenny said he would be willing to talk to them
Sheff Utd - Wolves told Kenny they had bid for him and Kenny said he had no interest in joining them.
Fair enough...seems strange he'd be willing to talk to the club who will be in the Championship next year, but wasnt keen on the Premiership bound team....
But that was in the summer and there was no certainty that they were going straight down.
Its Sunderland. 3 certanties in life: Death, Taxes and Sunderland being relegated from the Premier league.
Visage Wolf
19-01-2006, 11:33
Good riddance. The tims didn't have the patience to put up with Camara's woeful shooting sowill be greatfun to watch them turn on Miller.
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black&gold
19-01-2006, 11:33
What's going to happen now when Glen subs him? Will he jump out of his pram and onto a bus for Scotland.Bring in a new forward and he drops down the lpecking order.He hasn't been prolific this season although his corners weren't bad the other week.
SOA Wolf
19-01-2006, 11:35
Its Sunderland. 3 certanties in life: Death, Taxes and Sunderland being relegated from the Premier league.
I thought you didn't believe in predictions only on facts.....?
Just like I know we will not signenough players for it to beworthwhile...like I knew that last January.
I thought you didn't believe in predictions only on facts.....?
Just like I know we will not signenough players for it to beworthwhile...like I knew that last January.
Visage Wolf
19-01-2006, 11:36
The thing is though - had we sold him, for, say 1.5m, would anyone trust Hoddle to bring in an adequate replacement?
I'd rather have Miller in the squad for the rest of the season that rely on Hoddle to spend the money wisely.
I'd rather have Miller in the squad for the rest of the season that rely on Hoddle to spend the money wisely.
yammer
19-01-2006, 11:36
Bitter about what? I've never liked Miller. Never even join in with the chants of his name so it will give me great pleasure to laugh at him playing for Celtic.
Oldgold Wolfcub
19-01-2006, 11:36
Lets be quite clear about the Miller position and I will say I was 100% behind him before. All the messages coming out from him and the club was that he wanted to keep his options open until the end of the season. Now he has signed a pre season contract that makes what has been said a dishonest statement. Simple as that. If he wants to join Celtic why does he not go now? Sorry I would love to see Kenny prove me wrong but I think we have a passenger on our hands now.
yammer
19-01-2006, 11:39
If he wants to join Celtic why does he not go now? Sorry I would love to see Kenny prove me wrong but I think we have a passenger on our hands now.
Because they don't want him now. Miller is a liar though, he only said a few weeks ago that he would be playing for Rangers next season.
Because they don't want him now. Miller is a liar though, he only said a few weeks ago that he would be playing for Rangers next season.
SOA Wolf
19-01-2006, 11:40
Lets be quite clear about the Miller position and I will say I was 100% behind him before. All the messages coming out from him and the club was that he wanted to keep his options open until the end of the season. Now he has signed a pre season contract that makes what has been said a dishonest statement. Simple as that. If he wants to join Celtic why does he not go now? Sorry I would love to see Kenny prove me wrong but I think we have a passenger on our hands now.
But perhaps (and most likely) that Celtic just do not wish to pay out for him and he wants to secure his move.....this was always a very distinct possibility that it could happen.
I say play him, and if he gets injured ....not our problem.Edited by: SOA Wolf
But perhaps (and most likely) that Celtic just do not wish to pay out for him and he wants to secure his move.....this was always a very distinct possibility that it could happen.
I say play him, and if he gets injured ....not our problem.Edited by: SOA Wolf
castolo
19-01-2006, 11:41
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Kenny was playing for a contract before, watch the workrate decline!
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Kenny was playing for a contract before, watch the workrate decline!
QB Wolf
19-01-2006, 11:42
Noithing against Kenny what-so-ever. He does what's best for him (like we would all put ourselves first) ... but ... we turned down 1.5m for him and he goes for free ... and Moxey calls himself a business man ... smileys/smiley36.gif
Moxey turned down the offer because he thought Miller would play a significant part in our promotion push.
The promotion push didn't materialise, now inJanuary our only hopes are the play offs and the chances of promotion are slim.
If we'd been in the top two would Miller have signed this agreement? I doubt it.
Instead Miller has been forced to play on the wing all season and we're floundering in 7th. This is Hoddle's fault as much as anyones. I feel sick, another sorry episode in the worst season in a decade!!
Moxey turned down the offer because he thought Miller would play a significant part in our promotion push.
The promotion push didn't materialise, now inJanuary our only hopes are the play offs and the chances of promotion are slim.
If we'd been in the top two would Miller have signed this agreement? I doubt it.
Instead Miller has been forced to play on the wing all season and we're floundering in 7th. This is Hoddle's fault as much as anyones. I feel sick, another sorry episode in the worst season in a decade!!
Bill McCai
19-01-2006, 11:43
Seeing as he could have left during the window I think you all have to agree………..THIS IS LIKE A NEW SIGNING!!!!smileys/smiley32.gif
Well done Jez and Glenn!
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What a prize you are. Left during the window???? If he had he would have lost out financially and we would have got some compensation. New signing?????? Yes is he prepared to go in for a challenge that might put him out for a season.
Well done Jez and Glenn!!! They have both been powerless and had to stand by and watch what has turned out to be an act of dishonesty on Miller's part.
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I actually agree with you, apart from the bit about Glenn and Jez being powerless. We could have accepted bids from <?:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:place w:st="on">Sunderland</st1:place> last year but chose to keep KM for the push for the auto's ( rightly IMO ). We are nowhere near automatic promotion! Whose fault is that? </DIV>
Oldgold Wolfcub
19-01-2006, 11:49
But perhaps (and most likely) that Celtic just do not wish to pay out for him and he wants to secure his move.....this was always a very distinct possibility that it could happen.
I say play him, and if he gets injured ....not our problem.
Oh I totally agree. If Celtic would have wanted him now he would have been there and probably at the start of January.
As far as playing him I would guess that his main priority for the rest of the season is not to get injured.
I say play him, and if he gets injured ....not our problem.
Oh I totally agree. If Celtic would have wanted him now he would have been there and probably at the start of January.
As far as playing him I would guess that his main priority for the rest of the season is not to get injured.
Jamboon
19-01-2006, 11:54
We got 3 million for camara and havent spent that what makes everybody think we would have spent 1million from selling Miller?
Good luck to him he has made his reasons clear for wanting to move and its not down to football. The fact that hes found himself a club that can offer him champions league football is good for him.
Hes showed on numerous occasions this season that he is our best player and those who have jumped on the band waggon of saying "hes not trying now. He wants to leave"I find that unbelievable. I cant fault the effort Miller has put in this season even if it has been partly down to him wanting to put himself in the shop window.
Im glad Miller is going to be around till the end of the season hopefully this doesnt mean we will wait untill the summer to get the striker we need though.
I just hope he doesnt get hounded now that hes leaving every time he misses a chance or plays a miss placed pass.
Good luck to him he has made his reasons clear for wanting to move and its not down to football. The fact that hes found himself a club that can offer him champions league football is good for him.
Hes showed on numerous occasions this season that he is our best player and those who have jumped on the band waggon of saying "hes not trying now. He wants to leave"I find that unbelievable. I cant fault the effort Miller has put in this season even if it has been partly down to him wanting to put himself in the shop window.
Im glad Miller is going to be around till the end of the season hopefully this doesnt mean we will wait untill the summer to get the striker we need though.
I just hope he doesnt get hounded now that hes leaving every time he misses a chance or plays a miss placed pass.
Oldgold Wolfcub
19-01-2006, 11:57
I just hope he doesnt get hounded now that hes leaving every time he misses a chance or plays a miss placed pass.
And in all honesty what do you think WILL happen.
And in all honesty what do you think WILL happen.
jabbawolf
19-01-2006, 11:57
Lets be quite clear about the Miller position and I will say I was 100% behind him before. All the messages coming out from him and the club was that he wanted to keep his options open until the end of the season. Now he has signed a pre season contract that makes what has been said a dishonest statement. Simple as that. If he wants to join Celtic why does he not go now? Sorry I would love to see Kenny prove me wrong but I think we have a passenger on our hands now.
But perhaps (and most likely) that Celtic just do not wish to pay out for him and he wants to secure his move.....this was always a very distinct possibility that it could happen.
I say play him, and if he gets injured ....not our problem.
Get Vio to do another Celtic player smileys/smiley15.gif
But perhaps (and most likely) that Celtic just do not wish to pay out for him and he wants to secure his move.....this was always a very distinct possibility that it could happen.
I say play him, and if he gets injured ....not our problem.
Get Vio to do another Celtic player smileys/smiley15.gif
Kris Kringle
19-01-2006, 11:58
I just hope he doesnt get hounded now that hes leaving every time he misses a chance or plays a miss placed pass.
I think you will be disappointed.
I think you will be disappointed.
Sport Billy
19-01-2006, 11:58
smileys/smiley13.gifGutting that our best striker is going to walk for free in the summer.
If he keeps giving 100% this season, I will be fully behind him though.
As for dropping himsmileys/smiley5.gif..and replacing him with who exactly??
Some may dissaprove of the way the whole saga has ended but he is still far better than what we have currently got at the club.
If his performaces do drop then, yes by all means drop him, but until then he must stay in the team
Or do we drop him through spite anywayand give away what slim chance we still have of making this season a succesfull one? Actually thinking about some of the posters on here, dont answer that!smileys/smiley2.gif
If he keeps giving 100% this season, I will be fully behind him though.
As for dropping himsmileys/smiley5.gif..and replacing him with who exactly??
Some may dissaprove of the way the whole saga has ended but he is still far better than what we have currently got at the club.
If his performaces do drop then, yes by all means drop him, but until then he must stay in the team
Or do we drop him through spite anywayand give away what slim chance we still have of making this season a succesfull one? Actually thinking about some of the posters on here, dont answer that!smileys/smiley2.gif
castolo
19-01-2006, 11:59
I just hope he doesnt get hounded now that hes leaving every time he misses a chance or plays a miss placed pass.
And in all honesty what do you think WILL happen.
Cue new thread " I Booed Millers Every Touch "
And in all honesty what do you think WILL happen.
Cue new thread " I Booed Millers Every Touch "
Visage Wolf
19-01-2006, 12:00
smileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gif$$$$$$$inb!$*!$*dsmileys/smiley7.gifMoxey smileys/smiley7.gifwe got offered 1.5 mill it was obvious to everybody but him that he would leave! so why not accept it!!!!!!!!!!!!! virtually every fan wanted the club to snap their hand off for that kind of money!!!!!
smileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gifwhat a w!$*er! smileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gif
Kenny was playing for a contract before, watch the workrate decline!
You do realise that splattering emoticons all over your post is the equivalent of writing in crayon, dont you?
Edited by: Visage Wolf
smileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gifwhat a w!$*er! smileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gif
Kenny was playing for a contract before, watch the workrate decline!
You do realise that splattering emoticons all over your post is the equivalent of writing in crayon, dont you?
Edited by: Visage Wolf
Jim Bowen
19-01-2006, 12:01
smileys/smiley13.gif$Gutting that our best striker is going to walk for free in the summer.
CARL CORT IS LEAVING TOO? $$$$$$$ SAKE!
CARL CORT IS LEAVING TOO? $$$$$$$ SAKE!
Visage Wolf
19-01-2006, 12:02
smileys/smiley13.gifGutting that our best striker is going to walk for free in the summer.
CARL CORT IS LEAVING TOO? $$$$$$$ SAKE!
MOXEY OUT!!!!OMGWTFBBQELEVEN!!!!! smileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley11.gifsmileys/smiley4.gifsmileys/smiley36.gifsmileys/smiley2.gifsmileys/smiley1.gifsmileys/smiley32.gifsmileys/smiley18.gif
CARL CORT IS LEAVING TOO? $$$$$$$ SAKE!
MOXEY OUT!!!!OMGWTFBBQELEVEN!!!!! smileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley11.gifsmileys/smiley4.gifsmileys/smiley36.gifsmileys/smiley2.gifsmileys/smiley1.gifsmileys/smiley32.gifsmileys/smiley18.gif
Sozzled Wolf
19-01-2006, 12:05
Let's not forget that Miller was one of the players who took us up, scoring some vital goals in the process. If he had to move due to personal/familypressures, then so be it. I for one am thankful for his contribution to the cause.
...though I wish he'd $$$$$$$ off in the Jan window so we couldgetsome dosh for himsmileys/smiley2.gif
In all seriousness, it's the Bosman ruling that should take the blame. IMVthe Bosman'sbeen thecatalyst forinflated players' wages, lack of loyalty, agent poweretc. At least wipe the pre-contract s!$* out as what's the point of having a player for a few months whose destiny lies elsewhere at the end of the season??? It's pure nonsense.
...though I wish he'd $$$$$$$ off in the Jan window so we couldgetsome dosh for himsmileys/smiley2.gif
In all seriousness, it's the Bosman ruling that should take the blame. IMVthe Bosman'sbeen thecatalyst forinflated players' wages, lack of loyalty, agent poweretc. At least wipe the pre-contract s!$* out as what's the point of having a player for a few months whose destiny lies elsewhere at the end of the season??? It's pure nonsense.
Oldgold Wolfcub
19-01-2006, 12:10
Bit strong OGW...why has Kenny been dishonest....he has remained on the transfer list for over a year....we have just been pathetic in dealing with it.
I have said in another post but the reason he would be dishonest is simply not to tell the truth. If he has said that he is wanting to keep his options open until the end of the season and changes his mind that is being dishonest.
The strong inference aswell was that he wanted to go back to Scotland for personal reasons and yet it was reported that he was also considering moves abroad. That on its own would not be enough for me to think he was being dishonest but in conjunction with other things would not lead me to believe he was being totally honest.
I have said in another post but the reason he would be dishonest is simply not to tell the truth. If he has said that he is wanting to keep his options open until the end of the season and changes his mind that is being dishonest.
The strong inference aswell was that he wanted to go back to Scotland for personal reasons and yet it was reported that he was also considering moves abroad. That on its own would not be enough for me to think he was being dishonest but in conjunction with other things would not lead me to believe he was being totally honest.
I.D.
19-01-2006, 12:11
As usual the mentally challenged are sending the blame flying in the wrong direction.
J. M. Bosman forced Uefa to adopt EEC employment laws, in court, for
his own benefit. Once Uefa had adopted the current system it was open
to this kind of use. In any other walk of life everybody would be
blaming the EEC and asylum seekers for this situation.
When Moxey turned down Sunderland's bid, he had no idea that Hoddle
would play his top scoring striker in a bizzarre formation that
prevents him from scoring many goals. As many of you love to point out,
Moxey struggles to sign good players. What the hell makes you think
that he would have been able to sign a striker of the same quality to
replace Miller?
Moxey's best option at the time seemed to be to hold onto Miller unless
he got an offer that was too good to refuse, to slag him off with the
benefit of hindsight is pretty low.
For someone who accuses him of selling off our best players, purely to
make profit, to join in with the condemnation of Moxey for not selling
Miller is lower, but no more than I'd expect.
J. M. Bosman forced Uefa to adopt EEC employment laws, in court, for
his own benefit. Once Uefa had adopted the current system it was open
to this kind of use. In any other walk of life everybody would be
blaming the EEC and asylum seekers for this situation.
When Moxey turned down Sunderland's bid, he had no idea that Hoddle
would play his top scoring striker in a bizzarre formation that
prevents him from scoring many goals. As many of you love to point out,
Moxey struggles to sign good players. What the hell makes you think
that he would have been able to sign a striker of the same quality to
replace Miller?
Moxey's best option at the time seemed to be to hold onto Miller unless
he got an offer that was too good to refuse, to slag him off with the
benefit of hindsight is pretty low.
For someone who accuses him of selling off our best players, purely to
make profit, to join in with the condemnation of Moxey for not selling
Miller is lower, but no more than I'd expect.
Oldgold Wolfcub
19-01-2006, 12:12
In all seriousness, it's the Bosman ruling that should take the blame. IMVthe Bosman'sbeen thecatalyst forinflated players' wages, lack of loyalty, agent poweretc. At least wipe the pre-contract s!$* out as what's the point of having a player for a few months whose destiny lies elsewhere at the end of the season??? It's pure nonsense.
A thousand percent agree.
A thousand percent agree.
Oldgold Wolfcub
19-01-2006, 12:20
As usual the mentally challenged are sending the blame flying in the wrong direction.
J. M. Bosman forced Uefa to adopt EEC employment laws, in court, for
his own benefit. Once Uefa had adopted the current system it was open
to this kind of use. In any other walk of life everybody would be
blaming the EEC and asylum seekers for this situation.
Bosman did not force Uefa to do anything. They chose to go to the extent they did and no one challenged them. My understanding of the Bosman case was completely different to what this new ruling brought in. Bosman I believe was in a position where his club were holding his registration but not empoying him therefore stopping him making a living. All he wanted initially was the right to be able to play. It is the european politicians and the system they use that created this system.
J. M. Bosman forced Uefa to adopt EEC employment laws, in court, for
his own benefit. Once Uefa had adopted the current system it was open
to this kind of use. In any other walk of life everybody would be
blaming the EEC and asylum seekers for this situation.
Bosman did not force Uefa to do anything. They chose to go to the extent they did and no one challenged them. My understanding of the Bosman case was completely different to what this new ruling brought in. Bosman I believe was in a position where his club were holding his registration but not empoying him therefore stopping him making a living. All he wanted initially was the right to be able to play. It is the european politicians and the system they use that created this system.
Sharpsy
19-01-2006, 12:20
The thing is though - had we sold him, for, say 1.5m, would anyone trust Hoddle to bring in an adequate replacement?
I'd rather have Miller in the squad for the rest of the season that rely on Hoddle to spend the money wisely.
What money has Hoddlewasted to earn this tag of wasting money?!
I think Moxey's judgement should wait until the end of the season. He thought that keeping Miller and benefiting from his goals would be more benifical than £1.5 million because he could be the difference in sending us up. Well so far, although Miller has tried his hardest, his end product (i.e goals) has not been a good return IMO especially for all the interest shown in him.
However, in the next few months that could change in which case Moxey would be spot on and get my praise. We're so up and down at the moment we cant tell what is going to happen. But should his goals be the difference in getting promotion then well done Moxey and worth loosing him for nothing, if not then Moxey your a fat $$$$$$ and should $$$$$$$ off!! smileys/smiley1.gif
Miller is only as good as he is IMO because of Hoddle, the improvement in his game since Hoddle came here has been vast. I believe Hoddle can do the same with other players we have like young Davies etc.
I wont miss him too much, I'm quite old fashioned in that a striker should just score goals rather than beat players and give you entertainment value but not score.
As for booing him, well its not needed, he has been honest with us and has stated what his aim is for the rest of the season. He might bottle out of a tackle if someone the size of Paul Butler comes flying in on him, many teams will play like that on him, but how many 50/50 tackles does he fly into anyhow? He just runs and runs and runs!!
I'd rather have Miller in the squad for the rest of the season that rely on Hoddle to spend the money wisely.
What money has Hoddlewasted to earn this tag of wasting money?!
I think Moxey's judgement should wait until the end of the season. He thought that keeping Miller and benefiting from his goals would be more benifical than £1.5 million because he could be the difference in sending us up. Well so far, although Miller has tried his hardest, his end product (i.e goals) has not been a good return IMO especially for all the interest shown in him.
However, in the next few months that could change in which case Moxey would be spot on and get my praise. We're so up and down at the moment we cant tell what is going to happen. But should his goals be the difference in getting promotion then well done Moxey and worth loosing him for nothing, if not then Moxey your a fat $$$$$$ and should $$$$$$$ off!! smileys/smiley1.gif
Miller is only as good as he is IMO because of Hoddle, the improvement in his game since Hoddle came here has been vast. I believe Hoddle can do the same with other players we have like young Davies etc.
I wont miss him too much, I'm quite old fashioned in that a striker should just score goals rather than beat players and give you entertainment value but not score.
As for booing him, well its not needed, he has been honest with us and has stated what his aim is for the rest of the season. He might bottle out of a tackle if someone the size of Paul Butler comes flying in on him, many teams will play like that on him, but how many 50/50 tackles does he fly into anyhow? He just runs and runs and runs!!
Kris Kringle
19-01-2006, 12:21
In an ideal world Wolves will prepare for the rest of the season without Miller, who should be used as a bit part player now. With Camara already gone, Miller definitely going and Ganea making noises that he will leave this month we will be 3 forwards down by the end of the season.
Surely it makes sense to replace them now before 2005/06 peters out into yet another desperate failure, rather than wait until the end of the season?
Surely it makes sense to replace them now before 2005/06 peters out into yet another desperate failure, rather than wait until the end of the season?
Sozzled Wolf
19-01-2006, 12:22
Thanks foryour opinion ID - some valid points -but it could just as easily have been written without the condescending tone.
Del Woppio
19-01-2006, 12:44
As usual the mentally challenged are sending the blame flying in the wrong direction.
J. M. Bosman forced Uefa to adopt EEC employment laws, in court, for his own benefit. Once Uefa had adopted the current system it was open to this kind of use. In any other walk of life everybody would be blaming the EEC and asylum seekers for this situation.
When Moxey turned down Sunderland's bid, he had no idea that Hoddle would play his top scoring striker in a bizzarre formation that prevents him from scoring many goals. As many of you love to point out, Moxey struggles to sign good players. What the hell makes you think that he would have been able to sign a striker of the same quality to replace Miller?
Moxey's best option at the time seemed to be to hold onto Miller unless he got an offer that was too good to refuse, to slag him off with the benefit of hindsight is pretty low.
For someone who accuses him of selling off our best players, purely to make profit, to join in with the condemnation of Moxey for not selling Miller is lower, but no more than I'd expect.
Excellent post. It's about time somebody saw sense.
Moxey did the right thing by turning down Sunderlands offer as at the time, the concencus was that we would be serious contenders for a top 2 place, and that Kenny would have been a vital part of the campaign. If EvilJez had of accepted Scumderlands offer, this board would have been stacked full of 'in it for the money' comments.
The fact that we are not pushing for a top 2 place is a regretable, but unforseeable situation.
Kenny has been on the transfer list for over a year. We have all known he is unhappy here, both in the CCC and in the Midlands. He has worked hard, honoured his contract, and accepted an offer from a huge club who can offer him Champions League football, in the country that harbours his child. How anybody can have any ill feeling toward him for that, is beyond me.
Good on you Kenny, I doubt there is a footballer alive that wouldn't have one the same thing.
J. M. Bosman forced Uefa to adopt EEC employment laws, in court, for his own benefit. Once Uefa had adopted the current system it was open to this kind of use. In any other walk of life everybody would be blaming the EEC and asylum seekers for this situation.
When Moxey turned down Sunderland's bid, he had no idea that Hoddle would play his top scoring striker in a bizzarre formation that prevents him from scoring many goals. As many of you love to point out, Moxey struggles to sign good players. What the hell makes you think that he would have been able to sign a striker of the same quality to replace Miller?
Moxey's best option at the time seemed to be to hold onto Miller unless he got an offer that was too good to refuse, to slag him off with the benefit of hindsight is pretty low.
For someone who accuses him of selling off our best players, purely to make profit, to join in with the condemnation of Moxey for not selling Miller is lower, but no more than I'd expect.
Excellent post. It's about time somebody saw sense.
Moxey did the right thing by turning down Sunderlands offer as at the time, the concencus was that we would be serious contenders for a top 2 place, and that Kenny would have been a vital part of the campaign. If EvilJez had of accepted Scumderlands offer, this board would have been stacked full of 'in it for the money' comments.
The fact that we are not pushing for a top 2 place is a regretable, but unforseeable situation.
Kenny has been on the transfer list for over a year. We have all known he is unhappy here, both in the CCC and in the Midlands. He has worked hard, honoured his contract, and accepted an offer from a huge club who can offer him Champions League football, in the country that harbours his child. How anybody can have any ill feeling toward him for that, is beyond me.
Good on you Kenny, I doubt there is a footballer alive that wouldn't have one the same thing.
Sheriff Woody
19-01-2006, 12:51
$$$$$$$ it, another $$$$$$$**g $$$$$$$ up.
Everybody knew this was going to happen when DJ treated him like dirt during the premier league season. Why we didn't cash in in the summer god only knows. I'm sure he'll do his best for the rest of the season but I just hope to god we can find somebody with his workrate to replace him because Clarke, Vio, Seol et al have all failed to offer an alternative this year.
Everybody knew this was going to happen when DJ treated him like dirt during the premier league season. Why we didn't cash in in the summer god only knows. I'm sure he'll do his best for the rest of the season but I just hope to god we can find somebody with his workrate to replace him because Clarke, Vio, Seol et al have all failed to offer an alternative this year.
QB Wolf
19-01-2006, 13:05
Miller is only as good as he is IMO because of Hoddle, the improvement in his game since Hoddle came here has been vast. I believe Hoddle can do the same with other players we have like young Davies etc.
True he's turned him into a great wide midfield player well done Glen!Shame he wasn't in charge when Bully was here, all those goals he scored playing as part of a centre forward partnership, became a little tiresome in the end!!
True he's turned him into a great wide midfield player well done Glen!Shame he wasn't in charge when Bully was here, all those goals he scored playing as part of a centre forward partnership, became a little tiresome in the end!!
Stan
19-01-2006, 13:11
smileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gif$$$$$$$inb!$*!$*dsmileys/smiley7.gifMoxey smileys/smiley7.gifwe
got offered 1.5 mill it was obvious to everybody but him that he would
leave! so why not accept it!!!!!!!!!!!!! virtually every fan wanted the
club to snap their hand off for that kind of money!!!!!
smileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gifwhat a w!$*er! smileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gif
Kenny was playing for a contract before, watch the workrate decline!
You do realise that splattering emoticons all over your post is the equivalent of writing in crayon, dont you?
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got offered 1.5 mill it was obvious to everybody but him that he would
leave! so why not accept it!!!!!!!!!!!!! virtually every fan wanted the
club to snap their hand off for that kind of money!!!!!
smileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gifwhat a w!$*er! smileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gifsmileys/smiley7.gif
Kenny was playing for a contract before, watch the workrate decline!
You do realise that splattering emoticons all over your post is the equivalent of writing in crayon, dont you?
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Rightside Boy
19-01-2006, 13:24
I cant blame KM for leaving, he has ben on the transfer list for a long time now, good luck to him however, i dont think the club should play him from now on, it may well be a case cof cutting your nose of to spite your face butso what. He does not want to play for Wolves anymore and hasn't done for some time, the only reason he will go in the summer and not now isthe money he will get in his back pocket.
What i had hoped is that JM could have got a loan deal organised until the end of the season, there bye Celtic wouldpay his wages. If anybody thinks KM will be putting in the maximum ammount of effort for the maximum ammount oftime he has leftwith us they are sadly mistaken.
What i had hoped is that JM could have got a loan deal organised until the end of the season, there bye Celtic wouldpay his wages. If anybody thinks KM will be putting in the maximum ammount of effort for the maximum ammount oftime he has leftwith us they are sadly mistaken.
Kent Wolf
19-01-2006, 13:48
Not posted much, if at all but the Miller thing has got me mad.
Why did Moxey make a public statement to the effect that there had been no bids from Celtic ,24hrs before he signed the pre-contract deal with Celtic. Spin and more spin being fed to us time and time again.
Would it have not been better to keep his mouth shut about the incident rather than getting supporters hopes up. We all knew Miller was going, just a matter of when and where. I like his closing comment that he was aware of Celtic interest but there was no reason to believe that Miller would not remain at Wolves for the remainder of the season. Seems to me he already knew that the deal was done and dusted. The denial made by him just makes no sense.
On the subject of signings, I know we have till the end of the month but IF any signings are to be made, would it not have been better to get them at the start of the windowso they have the chance to make an impression with more games to go rather than fewer the longer the club leaves it?
Very disillusioned.
Why did Moxey make a public statement to the effect that there had been no bids from Celtic ,24hrs before he signed the pre-contract deal with Celtic. Spin and more spin being fed to us time and time again.
Would it have not been better to keep his mouth shut about the incident rather than getting supporters hopes up. We all knew Miller was going, just a matter of when and where. I like his closing comment that he was aware of Celtic interest but there was no reason to believe that Miller would not remain at Wolves for the remainder of the season. Seems to me he already knew that the deal was done and dusted. The denial made by him just makes no sense.
On the subject of signings, I know we have till the end of the month but IF any signings are to be made, would it not have been better to get them at the start of the windowso they have the chance to make an impression with more games to go rather than fewer the longer the club leaves it?
Very disillusioned.
Del Woppio
19-01-2006, 13:51
there wasn't a bid from Celtic, and never has been. Neither Miller or Celtic have to inform Wolves of any contact. He was aware they were talking, presumably because Miller was good enough to keep Moxey informed. There is no reason to beleive that Miller won't remain a Wolves player for the remainder of the season, well, because there isn't. I'm puzzled as to what you think Moxey has lied/spun about.
Visage Wolf
19-01-2006, 13:52
Not posted much, if at all but the Miller thing has got me mad.
Why did Moxey make a public statement to the effect that there had been no bids from Celtic ,24hrs before he signed the pre-contract deal with Celtic. Spin and more spin being fed to us time and time again.Because Celtic and Miller dont have to tell Wolves? A player can sign a pre-contract agreement with anyclub outside the country of the club he's currently contracted to, with no obligation ot inform his current employers.
Would it have not been better to keep his mouth shut about the incident rather than getting supporters hopes up. We all knew Miller was going, just a matter of when and where. I like his closing comment that he was aware of Celtic interest but there was no reason to believe that Miller would not remain at Wolves for the remainder of the season. Seems to me he already knew that the deal was done and dusted. The denial made by him just makes no sense.
Exactly. The only way that we wouldnt have Miller for the rest of the season is if Celtic bought Miller off us. As he hadnt received an official bid, he had no reason to believe that was the case.
Why did Moxey make a public statement to the effect that there had been no bids from Celtic ,24hrs before he signed the pre-contract deal with Celtic. Spin and more spin being fed to us time and time again.Because Celtic and Miller dont have to tell Wolves? A player can sign a pre-contract agreement with anyclub outside the country of the club he's currently contracted to, with no obligation ot inform his current employers.
Would it have not been better to keep his mouth shut about the incident rather than getting supporters hopes up. We all knew Miller was going, just a matter of when and where. I like his closing comment that he was aware of Celtic interest but there was no reason to believe that Miller would not remain at Wolves for the remainder of the season. Seems to me he already knew that the deal was done and dusted. The denial made by him just makes no sense.
Exactly. The only way that we wouldnt have Miller for the rest of the season is if Celtic bought Miller off us. As he hadnt received an official bid, he had no reason to believe that was the case.
IMAB
19-01-2006, 13:57
The fact that we are not pushing for a top 2 place is a regretable, but unforseeable situation.
Then how come so many, myself not included, could see it coming and predicted it?
SOA, SSW etc...
Then how come so many, myself not included, could see it coming and predicted it?
SOA, SSW etc...
Del Woppio
19-01-2006, 13:59
there is a difference between suspecting something might happen, and knowing that it will, though.
IMAB
19-01-2006, 14:02
there is a difference between suspecting something might happen, and knowing that it will, though.
But they were adamant we would fail and quite lucid about why. SSW has us down for finishing 8th in the prediction league, for example.
But they were adamant we would fail and quite lucid about why. SSW has us down for finishing 8th in the prediction league, for example.
Del Woppio
19-01-2006, 14:06
so, had we accepted Sunderlands bid for Miller, and had he gone, and had we bought a replacement who scored 10 goals so far, and still sat in 7th place - would you (or the others who knew for fact we wouldn't go up) have proportioned some of the blame on the sale of Miller?
IMAB
19-01-2006, 14:08
I'd haveput all the blame at the door of Hoddle, his w!$* formations and lack of battling shown by the players he has picked. As I do now.
Big Mack
19-01-2006, 14:14
He hasn't been prolific this season although his corners weren't bad the other week.
Says it all really. He's scored 5 league goals this season in 19 appearances which IMHO is just not good enough. As I posted yesterday, he's another who thinks he's better than he actually is. A couple of goals for Scotland and he thinks he's Thierry Henry.
Says it all really. He's scored 5 league goals this season in 19 appearances which IMHO is just not good enough. As I posted yesterday, he's another who thinks he's better than he actually is. A couple of goals for Scotland and he thinks he's Thierry Henry.
Uncle Festa
19-01-2006, 15:32
Youll all be aware that I'm nota Miller fan, but Miller will get my full support providing he puts the effort in. The last month, he has been back to his best in my opinion, although he couldn't hit a barn door. But in terms of effort andapplication there has been no one more committed. I might be a bit sceptical, but I assumed this to be down to him being in the shop window. If he puts in the same effort then he must play, but if not then Hoddle needs to have a sub warmed up and ready to come on in an instant. I doubt Miller will be going for too many 50:50's now he has his move sewn up but I hope Im proven wrong and he finally finds the net. From a personal perspective, I'm glad he has/is gone. Its clear that he not only dis-liked it at Wolves, but positively hated it and his refusal to come off the transfer market should have lead to an earlier goodbye. I just hope he turns out as good a siging for Celtic as Camarra. Edited by: Uncle Festa
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