No New Signings?

[Rhoswolf]

On another site it is claimed that on Radio Five Hoddle has stated that it is unlikly that we will sign anybody in the transfer window.


Has anybody else heard this? If true it confirms what many of us suspected would be the outcome of yet more "empty" rhetoric from molineux.

[dr cool]

lets hope thats crap !





drsmileys/smiley16.gif

[Rhoswolf]

Apparently exact quote was


""Its now looking unlikely that we will be bringing anyone in before the window shuts so we'll knuckle down with what we have"

[peckhamwolf]

not suprising in the slightest. I'm surprised we didn't make a £10m offer for Lampard which Moxey described as 'like a new signing' and 'an indication this club is going places'.

[the_wanderer]

we'll hope its crap, but deep down we all know its true...


The clearout has started. Next to go? Lescott, Oakes, Seol, and Ricketts...

[Visage Wolf]

On another site it is claimed that on Radio Five Hoddle has stated that it is unlikly that we will sign anybody in the transfer window.</font>


Has anybody else heard this? If true it confirms what many of us suspected would be the outcome of yet more "empty" rhetoric from molineux.</font>


Which site?

[SOA Wolf]

Shock, Horror!!!!!!

[Blackstrobe]

Unbelievable!!! So assuming Miller, Ganea and Cameron all go all of a sudden our squads lookingvery thin on the ground.


Lets just hope our youngsters take this opportunity to stand up and be counted. Ie Lowe, Cornes, Clingan, Davies, Clarke They've all got a hell of a job to do in order to get us into the play offs!!!

[paddingtonwolf]

on another site it is claimed that Hoddle may have said.....


HEARSAY


My cousin's father's sister's great-aunt once danced with the Prince of Wales too

[SOA Wolf]

Sorry, will someone explain why you are surprised at this?

[Blackstrobe]

SOA i think we're all,including me, victims of the classic 'wolvesfan syndrome' (no know cure)where we want things to change so much that we actually beleive that they might, so that when it transpires that they havent we are all surprised and disapointed.

[Jack Regan]

Sounds to like the quote he gave before the 1st transfer window closed.


Probably BS

[Rhoswolf]

The site was Scott Cooper's and wouldn't normally repeat comments from another site. However, this was claimed to be a quote made on national radio, not down the local pub!


My original query was whether anybody else had heard the interview / quote.

[cooper_J]

Sorry, will someone explain why you are surprised at this?


Seconded.


The whole Mcleod thing proves that it was all just lipservice on part of the club. You don't invest months scouting someone and then not talk to him whenyou have a bid accepted.


Into the current situation with Cameron, Vio etc I see it as asset stripping on behalf of the club.


I don't want to sound melodramatic but this could be the start of some very depressing times.

[WTID!]

On a thread I posted last week Moxey said a similar thing. He made it sound good by saying we had signed 3 players in Rosa, Geypes &amp; Postma as they were all here on loan.


I'm not surprised by this at all. Talking to my uncle who's been a fan and attended games for year's say's I'm a complete sucker still paying out good money to watch them home &amp; away based on false promises issued by the club. Money to spend in the summer yet we can't find anyone to sign. Money again to sign players in the transfer window and we still can't find anyone.


Question is was the money ever there or are they still looking for the pot of money at the end of the rainbow ?

[Visage Wolf]

So some random, unnamend site has an allegation that we wont sign anyone, and the usual suspects go off on a group hissy fit about it.

I'll bet if the OP had said 'On another web site its been confirmed that we'll make 3 signings by the end of today' you'd all be falling over each other to rubbish it.....

Double standards. innit.

[SOA Wolf]

So some random, unnamend site has an allegation that we wont sign anyone, and the usual suspects go off on a group hissy fit about it.

I'll bet if the OP had said 'On another web site its been confirmed that we'll make 3 signings by the end of today' you'd all be falling over each other to rubbish it.....

Double standards. innit.



So you are sure we will sign someone then ?

[Visage Wolf]

So some random, unnamend site has an allegation that we wont sign anyone, and the usual suspects go off on a group hissy fit about it.

I'll bet if the OP had said 'On another web site its been confirmed that we'll make 3 signings by the end of today' you'd all be falling over each other to rubbish it.....

Double standards. innit.



So you are sure we will sign someone then ?

I dont know that we will, and i dont know that we wont.

[westlyNTR]

Vissy, it's just that we can see the wood from the
trees, innit?

[SOA Wolf]

So some random, unnamend site has an allegation that we wont sign anyone, and the usual suspects go off on a group hissy fit about it.

I'll bet if the OP had said 'On another web site its been confirmed that we'll make 3 signings by the end of today' you'd all be falling over each other to rubbish it.....

Double standards. innit.



So you are sure we will sign someone then ?




I dont know that we will, and i dont know that we wont.



I am certain we will not.

[cooper_J]

Just how many of our players could potentially leave come June?

[Visage Wolf]

So some random, unnamend site has an allegation that we wont sign anyone, and the usual suspects go off on a group hissy fit about it.

I'll bet if the OP had said 'On another web site its been confirmed that we'll make 3 signings by the end of today' you'd all be falling over each other to rubbish it.....

Double standards. innit.



So you are sure we will sign someone then ?




I dont know that we will, and i dont know that we wont.



I am certain we will not.

File, Save as.....

[Bill McCai]

I heard it and he actually said:
<?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
" Jez has informed me that Izale McLeod and the Pole have been entered as late contestants to Celebrity Big Brother. In an ideal world this wouldn’t have happened, but we've had to cut our cloth accordingly. So we've let Kenny Miller go to Celtic for talks and are currently in the process of alienating Vio Ganea as much as possible by playing Adriano Clarke ahead of him. My new formation will heed results in the final part of the system and I am thinking that the reason we aren’t scoring is because we aren’t patient enough in our build up play. Thanks you've been listening to Glenn Hoddle! "

[Visage Wolf]

Just how many of our players could potentially leave come June?

Out of contract at the end of the 2005/6 season:





Mark Kennedy


Kenny Miller


Paul Jones


Vio Ganea


Colin Cameron


George Ndah


Paul Ince


Stefan Postma


Maurice Ross (until January 25)


Tom Huddlestone (until January 21)


Paul Harrison (until January 24)


Darren Anderton


Silas


Denes Rosa



</span>

[cooper_J]

Oh dear.

[SOA Wolf]

Did you look through the threads in the summer Vis when we had the 'usual' crowd saying, after the MacNamara signing, that a lot moresignings will be made (based on MacNamara's own...'I have seen a list' comments) and they would be upset if nothing happened, whilst others did not believe the hype.....then we end up with a couple of loans plus Anderton.


Have you not heard this enough times to start to feel a little like 'I must be a mug if I believe this garbage' by now?


Do you want to have a £5 bet for charity on whether we sign anyone?

[Visage Wolf]

Oh dear.

What makes you say that?

Lose those players and our first 11 next year could be:


Oakes/Postma


Edwards Lescott Mcnamara Naylor


Ricketts, Davies Olofinjana Seoul


Cort + AN Other.

I'd be happy with that, and we'd have a drop in the wage bill of about 6m quid a year....


</span>

[jabbawolf]

Just how many of our players could potentially leave come June?

Out of contract at the end of the 2005/6 season:

Mark Kennedy
Kenny Miller
Paul Jones
Vio Ganea
Colin Cameron
George Ndah
Paul Ince
Stefan Postma
Maurice Ross (until January 25)
Tom Huddlestone (until January 21)
Paul Harrison (until January 24)
Darren Anderton
Silas
Denes Rosa




Didn't Silas add an extra year as part of his loan deal?

[Papa]

They're waiting for Micky Quinn to get fit.

[Visage Wolf]

Do you want to have a £5 bet for charity on whether we sign anyone?

Not really. As i said, i dont know if we will, and i dont know if we wont.

The one thing I wont do is jump on every piece of evidence either way, and no matter how flimsy it is ('my mates dad is frineds with Leon Clarke's uncle, and he says we wont sign anyone'), jump on it as though its some smoking gun that conveniently matches my pre-determined opinion.

[Visage Wolf]

Just how many of our players could potentially leave come June?

Out of contract at the end of the 2005/6 season:

Mark Kennedy
Kenny Miller
Paul Jones
Vio Ganea
Colin Cameron
George Ndah
Paul Ince
Stefan Postma
Maurice Ross (until January 25)
Tom Huddlestone (until January 21)
Paul Harrison (until January 24)
Darren Anderton
Silas
Denes Rosa
</span>



Didn't Silas add an extra year as part of his loan deal?

Its an option that Wolves have. I cant see us taking it, TBH.....

[black&gold]

Why does nothing suprise us any more about this club we all support.Gates are already down this season (10%) but that is nothing to what they will be next season.The much heralded training ground was going to greatly improve our chances of attracting players in the future.Money is available etc.etc.2Million was quoted as earmarked for this window what a larf.

[SOA Wolf]

Do you want to have a £5 bet for charity on whether we sign anyone?




Not really. As i said, i dont know if we will, and i dont know if we wont.

The one thing I wont do is jump on every piece of evidence either way, and no matter how flimsy it is ('my mates dad is frineds with Leon Clarke's uncle, and he says we wont sign anyone'), jump on it as though its some smoking gun that conveniently matches my pre-determined opinion.



...appreciate what you say my friend and respect that....my'fortune telling'is based on 'if a builder says he is going to fix a wall for you and he does not get it done year after year, why do you suddenly believe him when he says he will be around to do it before the end of January?'


I sometimes feel we have the equivalent of Mr O'Reilly from Fawlty Towers working on transfers in.smileys/smiley2.gif

[Visage Wolf]

Apparently, live on wm last night, JM said

"very close, waiting for an answer. The phone could ring at any minute"

....about an unnamed player, presumably Frankowski.

SO to suggest that we will 100% not sign a player before the deadline is just as unfounded as any suggestion that we will....
</span>

[SOA Wolf]

Apparently, live on wm last night, JM said

"very close, waiting for an answer. The phone could ring at any minute"

....about an unnamed player, presumably Frankowski.

SO to suggest that we will 100% not sign a player before the deadline is just as unfounded as any suggestion that we will....



Are you sure that was about a player and not him waiting to hear when the next pie delivery was coming?

[Axle]

Let's lok at it strategically. We get rid of a lot of our aging players and players that really can't cut it for the amount that they earn (e.g. Kennedy and it pains me to say it but Ndah too), we cut the wage bill and bleed some yoiungsters next season- assumming that Hoddle is still here - and then see how it goes with an entirely new look squad.





A lot of you are saying that it's depressing, yet so many of you - correctly - mention how little Reading's team cost to put together.More than thinking we're mugs for believing Hod and Mox, we should be thinking that we're all mugs for believingthat money buys success - our experience, more than anything should tell us that. This team is due anoverhaul and this season could well be the time to get it.

[westlyNTR]

Oakes/Postma

Edwards Lescott Mcnamara Naylor

Ricketts, Davies Olofinjana Seoul

Cort + AN Other.I'd be happy with that, and we'd have
a drop in the wage bill$$ of about 6m quid a
year....

I know what you've done, Mr Poker face, you cunning
devil....

you've left JC out as a hand winning ACE to play later
in the thread....

[jabbawolf]

It could just be a negotiating ploy, sending a message to Elche that we are not actually that fussed about signing Franz Ferdinand, so they will cave in to our fee.

[Visage Wolf]

Apparently, live on wm last night, JM said

"very close, waiting for an answer. The phone could ring at any minute"

....about an unnamed player, presumably Frankowski.

SO to suggest that we will 100% not sign a player before the deadline is just as unfounded as any suggestion that we will....
</span>


Are you sure that was about a player and not him waiting to hear when the next pie delivery was coming?

Very funny, and *very* original. smileys/smiley32.gifsmileys/smiley32.gifsmileys/smiley32.gifsmileys/smiley32.gifsmileys/smiley32.gif

[Visage Wolf]

It could just be a negotiating ploy, sending a message to Elche that we are not actually that fussed about signing Franz Ferdinand, so they will cave in to our fee.

Yes, i'm sure it is.

Can you get Radio WM in Spain?

[SOA Wolf]

Let's lok at it strategically. We get rid of a lot of our aging players and players that really can't cut it for the amount that they earn (e.g. Kennedy and it pains me to say it but Ndah too), we cut the wage bill and bleed some yoiungsters next season- assumming that Hoddle is still here - and then see how it goes with an entirely new look squad.





A lot of you are saying that it's depressing, yet so many of you - correctly - mention how little Reading's team cost to put together.More than thinking we're mugs for believing Hod and Mox, we should be thinking that we're all mugs for believingthat money buys success - our experience, more than anything should tell us that. This team is due anoverhaul and this season could well be the time to get it.





But why do you believe that these people are the ones who can bring in a squad to do the job....that needs an entirely different attitude from the top......I didn't sign the current crop of players and I didn't say they were good enough for promotion...never did believe that in fact...I also did not negotiate the current wage bill....perhaps some people who are responsible for those actions should ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY for once instead of blaming everyone and everything else for the failure.

[SOA Wolf]

Apparently, live on wm last night, JM said

"very close, waiting for an answer. The phone could ring at any minute"

....about an unnamed player, presumably Frankowski.

SO to suggest that we will 100% not sign a player before the deadline is just as unfounded as any suggestion that we will....



Are you sure that was about a player and not him waiting to hear when the next pie delivery was coming?




Very funny, and *very* original. smileys/smiley32.gifsmileys/smiley32.gifsmileys/smiley32.gifsmileys/smiley32.gifsmileys/smiley32.gif



I have no need to be original when talking about this man...after all he never is with anything he says.

[Essex Wolf]

If the club end up signing no on then it will just go to prove IMHO what people like I have said and thought for a long while now.


Of course Wolves may well yet sign some players but with it looking far more likely that more will be leaving this just signifies the start of major cost cutting.


I hope the club are going to be happy next season struggling with poor gates and uninterested punters who have been treated shoddily again.

[Axle]

SOA, you know my view on these issues too, I'm in favour of a long-term approach - could this be the time that we've being waiting for? I know that having a manager on a short term contract doesn't spell success, but perhaps there is a plan in place? If the club were to communicate and make a statement instead of being covert then it would help the relationship between club and fans, which is as strained as it has been for a long time.

[Flitwick Wolf]

If the club end up signing no on then it will just go to prove IMHO what people like I have said and thought for a long while now.


Of course Wolves may well yet sign some players but with it looking far more likely that more will be leaving this just signifies the start of major cost cutting.


I hope the club are going to be happy next season struggling with poor gates and uninterested punters who have been treated shoddily again.








Essex, for a while I have thought that although your thoughts were very possible, the Wolves would not act in such away.


However, if we end up this Jan without a striker signing, having our top target fee agreed, then I will be falling into the same mindset.


A sad state of affairs indeed.


I'm now beginning tohope that we buy a striker just to prove to me that we are trying to improve the squad and not just disassembling it. Here's hoping.

[SOA Wolf]

Axle, agreed, but I believe the only interests our current management have are their own.

[SOA Wolf]

Visage, if you want to go head to head in forecasting with me how about joining the Prediction League?

[Bull Army]

The site was Scott Cooper's and wouldn't normally repeat comments from another site. However, this was claimed to be a quote made on national radio, not down the local pub!


My original query was whether anybody else had heard the interview / quote.





Well the BBC have all their radio content archived for 7 days to listen to again, so if anyone can provide a rough time of this alleged comment then it shouldn't be too hard to track down.

[SOA Wolf]

The site was Scott Cooper's and wouldn't normally repeat comments from another site. However, this was claimed to be a quote made on national radio, not down the local pub!


My original query was whether anybody else had heard the interview / quote.





Well the BBC have all their radio content archived for 7 days to listen to again, so if anyone can provide a rough time of this alleged comment then it shouldn't be too hard to track down.





Maybe it was on talksport.smileys/smiley2.gif

[Visage Wolf]

Visage, if you want to go head to head in forecasting with me how about joining the Prediction League?

Because its a mugs game.

[Visage Wolf]

The site was Scott Cooper's and wouldn't normally repeat comments from another site. However, this was claimed to be a quote made on national radio, not down the local pub!


My original query was whether anybody else had heard the interview / quote.





Well the BBC have all their radio content archived for 7 days to listen to again, so if anyone can provide a rough time of this alleged comment then it shouldn't be too hard to track down.





Maybe it was on talksport.smileys/smiley2.gif

'So, tell me Glenn, what do you think about asylum seekers getting free cars?'

[Notty Wolf]

2 Million was quoted as earmarked for this window


What?Moxey having more double glazing fitted at the Mol? smileys/smiley2.gif

[The Weasel]

Let's lok at it strategically. We get rid of a
lot of our aging players and players that really can't cut it for the
amount that they earn (e.g. Kennedy and it pains me to say it but Ndah
too), we cut the wage bill and bleed some yoiungsters next
season- assumming that Hoddle is still here - and then see how it
goes with an entirely new look squad.





A lot of you are saying that it's depressing, yet so many of you -
correctly - mention how little Reading's team cost to put
together.More than thinking we're mugs for believing Hod
and Mox, we should be thinking that we're all mugs for
believingthat money buys success - our experience, more than
anything should tell us that. This team is due anoverhaul
and this season could well be the time to get it.



Axle - wisest words I've read in some time on here. Its starting to
feel like a radical shift is occurring behind the scenes. Yes we are
cutting costs with a view to next season's lower income levels, yes we
are releasing players who wont form part of the long term plan (and I'm
a fan of Mickey and Miller but we have to move on). Maybe the side next
year will be younger, cheaper!, and hungrier than the current overpaid
'comfort-zone' players we all moan about. Maybe they'll want it more.
Maybe we'll struggle for a season or two, who knows. For sure gates
will go down (and so should prices), but I think most fans would be
reasonably happy with this scenario if only the club would come clean
about its strategy. I suspect this will be articulated when this season
is over and not a second before.

Edited by: The Weasel

[Essex Wolf]

If the club end up signing no on then it will just go to prove IMHO what people like I have said and thought for a long while now.


Of course Wolves may well yet sign some players but with it looking far more likely that more will be leaving this just signifies the start of major cost cutting.


I hope the club are going to be happy next season struggling with poor gates and uninterested punters who have been treated shoddily again.








Essex, for a while I have thought that although your thoughts were very possible, the Wolves would not act in such away.


However, if we end up this Jan without a striker signing, having our top target fee agreed, then I will be falling into the same mindset.


A sad state of affairs indeed.


I'm now beginning tohope that we buy a striker just to prove to me that we are trying to improve the squad and not just disassembling it. Here's hoping.





FW, as far as I'm concerned the club is nowadays being run in such a way that no matter how much money goes in it is not being used for the improvement of the squad and that it is being held back. Draw your own conclusions as to why.


It's not rocket science to know that a succesful team will attract the punters and more punters means more money. It seems Wolves are happy to tick over as they are spending sod all and accepting life in the CCC. There is no passion, ambition or commitment being shown and as far as I'm concerned from the top down the club is run disgracefully with the fans last in their minds.


Whilst I still remain hopeful?? of a signing or two I have to say I'm now feeling very pessimistic.As each day draws to an end with still nothing done on the new players frontwhilst all the talk is of more leaving I just wish more and more he club was sold and in the hands of people who show some sort of ambition and commitment.


Edited by: Essex Wolf

[Visage Wolf]

FW, as far as I'm concerned the club is nowadays being run in such a way that no matter how much money goes in it is not being used for the improvemen of the squad and that it is being held back. Draw your own conclusions as to why.

Is it because we're looking at losing 1/3 of our income next year and we want to avoid going bust? Disgraceful.



It's not rocket science to know that a succesful team will attract the punters and more punters means more money. It seems Wolves are happy to tick over as they are spending sod all and accepting life in the CCC. There is no passion, ambition or commitment being shown and as far as I'm concerned from the top down he club is run disgracefully with the fans last in their minds.

So we should spend money on the basis that spending money = success = more bums on seats= more income?

Isnt that what Leeds did?



Whilst I still remain hopeful?? of a signing or two I have to say I'm now feeling very pessimistic.As each day draws to an end with still nothing done on the new players frontwhilst all the talk is of more leaving I just wish more and more he club was sold and in he hands of people who show some sort of ambition and commitment.Or perhaps you should be asking why a manager with the most expensive squad in the division is struggling to get the tea,m into the top 6 because he plays such a god-awful unispiring brand of football?

The club could spend 100m tomorrow and Hoddle would still finish mid-table.

[SOA Wolf]

Agree with every point Vis....and shows that we need a change at the top.

[peckhamwolf]

Let's lok at it strategically. We get rid of a lot of our aging players and players that really can't cut it for the amount that they earn (e.g. Kennedy and it pains me to say it but Ndah too), we cut the wage bill and bleed some yoiungsters next season- assumming that Hoddle is still here - and then see how it goes with an entirely new look squad.





A lot of you are saying that it's depressing, yet so many of you - correctly - mention how little Reading's team cost to put together.More than thinking we're mugs for believing Hod and Mox, we should be thinking that we're all mugs for believingthat money buys success - our experience, more than anything should tell us that. This team is due anoverhaul and this season could well be the time to get it.




Axle - wisest words I've read in some time on here. Its starting to feel like a radical shift is occurring behind the scenes. Yes we are cutting costs with a view to next season's lower income levels, yes we are releasing players who wont form part of the long term plan (and I'm a fan of Mickey and Miller but we have to move on). Maybe the side next year will be younger, cheaper!, and hungrier than the current overpaid 'comfort-zone' players we all moan about. Maybe they'll want it more. Maybe we'll struggle for a season or two, who knows. For sure gates will go down (and so should prices), but I think most fans would be reasonably happy with this scenario if only the club would come clean about its strategy. I suspect this will be articulated when this season is over and not a second before.



How unfortunate that the two of you have been brainwashed into thinking the club would respond in this way. I'd be happier than anyone if I genuinely felt the club were building for the future but unfortunately I cannot clearly see this being the case.


Admittedly some of the dead wood is being shipped out but we said that last year when Blake went, Iversen went, Rae, Butler, Irwin, all out of the door, presumably to give younger players a chance? Nope.


What evidence do you have that firstly, the young players are good enough and secondly that GH is going to be prepared to give them an opportunity in the first team?


If this was the case surely we would be giving the likes of, well, whoever GH has in his plans, an opportunity in the first team, like Ipswich, Burnley and the other teams on a par with us? And we wouldn't be persisting with players who are going to leave the club at the end of the season if we had a plan to build a young team.


I know it must hurt people to realise this but there is no masterplan. The place is a shambles, next season will be no better, the sooner you lot get used to it instead of this mindless optimism the better.

[SOA Wolf]

How unfortunate that the two of you have been brainwashed into thinking the club would respond in this way. I'd be happier than anyone if I genuinely felt the club were building for the future but unfortunately I cannot clearly see this being the case.


Admittedly some of the dead wood is being shipped out but we said that last year when Blake went, Iversen went, Rae, Butler, Irwin, all out of the door, presumably to give younger players a chance? Nope.


What evidence do you have that firstly, the young players are good enough and secondly that GH is going to be prepared to give them an opportunity in the first team?


If this was the case surely we would be giving the likes of, well, whoever GH has in his plans, an opportunity in the first team, like Ipswich, Burnley and the other teams on a par with us? And we wouldn't be persisting with players who are going to leave the club at the end of the season if we had a plan to build a young team.


I know it must hurt people to realise this but there is no masterplan. The place is a shambles, next season will be no better, the sooner you lot get used to it instead of this mindless optimism the better.





smileys/smiley32.gifGood post mate

[black&gold]

If the club is starting to make provisions for lost revenue next season by getting rid of the older players and high wage earners all the more reason to have brought in players like Mcleod and a couple more in that age group.With the current trend of cut backs I would assume that this would also include Hoddle and Moxey taking substantial wage cuts.We still have Ince could he possibly be in charge for next season.

[Essex Wolf]

FW, as far as I'm concerned the club is nowadays being run in such a way that no matter how much money goes in it is not being used for the improvemen of the squad and that it is being held back. Draw your own conclusions as to why.

Is it because we're looking at losing 1/3 of our income next year and we want to avoid going bust? Disgraceful.


Don't deny that fact but the squad needs improving. Holding all monies back will see the club stagnate even more.



It's not rocket science to know that a succesful team will attract the punters and more punters means more money. It seems Wolves are happy to tick over as they are spending sod all and accepting life in the CCC. There is no passion, ambition or commitment being shown and as far as I'm concerned from the top down he club is run disgracefully with the fans last in their minds.


So we should spend money on the basis that spending money = success = more bums on seats= more income?


Isnt that what Leeds did?


Yes but I'm not for a second advocating spending many millions.As I have said in the past, which again you find convinient to ignore, Wolves should spend wisely. Not spending anything will IMV be detrimental in the long term.



Whilst I still remain hopeful?? of a signing or two I have to say I'm now feeling very pessimistic.As each day draws to an end with still nothing done on the new players frontwhilst all the talk is of more leaving I just wish more and more he club was sold and in he hands of people who show some sort of ambition and commitment.


Or perhaps you should be asking why a manager with the most expensive squad in the division is struggling to get the tea,m into the top 6 because he plays such a god-awful unispiring brand of football?

The club could spend 100m tomorrow and Hoddle would still finish mid-table.


Hoddle is still playing a first 11 that more often than not consists of mostly DJ signings.Not GH's fault if he has no other choice and is not being allowed to sign new players.



Edited by: Essex Wolf

[SOA Wolf]

If the club is starting to make provisions for lost revenue next season by getting rid of the older players and high wage earners all the more reason to have brought in players like Mcleod and a couple more in that age group.With the current trend of cut backs I would assume that this would also include Hoddle and Moxey taking substantial wage cuts.We still have Ince could he possibly be in charge for next season.


One can hope.

[Bumbamuffin]

How unfortunate that the two of you have been brainwashed into thinking the club would respond in this way. I'd be happier than anyone if I genuinely felt the club were building for the future but unfortunately I cannot clearly see this being the case.


Admittedly some of the dead wood is being shipped out but we said that last year when Blake went, Iversen went, Rae, Butler, Irwin, all out of the door, presumably to give younger players a chance? Nope.


What evidence do you have that firstly, the young players are good enough and secondly that GH is going to be prepared to give them an opportunity in the first team?


If this was the case surely we would be giving the likes of, well, whoever GH has in his plans, an opportunity in the first team, like Ipswich, Burnley and the other teams on a par with us? And we wouldn't be persisting with players who are going to leave the club at the end of the season if we had a plan to build a young team.


I know it must hurt people to realise this but there is no masterplan. The place is a shambles, next season will be no better, the sooner you lot get used to it instead of this mindless optimism the better.





smileys/smiley32.gifGood post mate





Fully agree.What's more ,like him or loathe him, I cannot believe that a lot of the planned outgoings are down to GH.I read the word "asset stripping" on another thread and whilst this may be a bit strong,I believe the club are now accepting/preparing for failure this season,with circa 4 months left to run.Bearing in mind he has been set the short term goal of promotion this season,what would the manager gain by letting Vio,Cameron,even Jones go now on 'frees' or for a nominal amountwith no money comingin to replace them? Surely he would be better to keep them even if it were only as cover?


The money men(man?) has now assumed more control and it seems outgoings will be the order of the day-in January &amp; summer.As Peckham says,this would be great if there was a plan in place to replace them with younger &amp; cheaper players.Unfortunately,do any of us really believe this willbe the case? I for one do not.

[Essex Wolf]

Bumbamuffin, the next time the the powers hat be at Mlineux have a plan it will be the first.


Incompetence personified.

[Blackstrobe]

Even when we lose 1/3 of our income next season we're still a club which commands an average gate of over 20,000 people (mugs)week in week out at astronomical prices.


If we cant afford to make shrewd signings then I would suggest that whoever is running the club is completely useless.


The recipe for successappears to beclear to all of us. We're not saying the club should be spending 10 million pounds on players or even 1 million. What the majority of us are saying is that we want sensible sums of money invested shrewdly in the right sort of players in the right sort of positions for this club. Obviously we have to trim the wage budget and the club appear to realise this with the impending releases of Vio and Mickey. But there are players like Anderton who cant even last more than 60minutes of a game on massive wages still on the books and Kennedy who seems tohave lost the ability to move forwards with the ball.


Granted, we arent football managers/ directors so we dont know the ins and outs of the business, but the bottom line is that prices are rising, performances are becoming poorer and the club is becoming increasinlgy distant from its customers illustrated by decreasing sales.


In any other industry this would be entirely unnacceptable and heads would roll!!


I think the blame ultimately has to lie at the feet of the Managing Director as would be the case in any other company. But for me Hoddle has in no way even begun to justify the wages that he is on.

[Tomasz]

Is it because we're looking at losing 1/3 of our
income next year and we want to avoid going bust? Disgraceful.





As I understand our turnover is in the 20-30 million a year range, I
don't think the parachute payment in the second year is as much as 6-10
million a year, is it?!

[Bill McCai]

Bumbamuffin, the next time the the powers hat be at Mlineux have a plan it will be the first.


Incompetence personified.

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[Visage Wolf]

Trunover is about 22m a year. Parachute payment is 7m.

[1wolves]

Moxey will come out and say we signed 3 players :-

Rosa
Postma
Gypes

I knew it, and it will be the same in the summer. Loads of players out, none in,and we will be in the 54!t then!

[Del Woppio]

Moxey will come out and say we signed 3 players :-

Rosa
Postma
Gypes

I knew it, and it will be the same in the summer. Loads of players out, none in,and we will be in the 54!t then!



so we haven't signed Rosa, Postma and Gyepes, then?

[Markwolf]

Oh jaysus, this bloody argument. AGAIN. Edited by: Markwolf

[Del Woppio]

Moxey will come out and say we signed 3 players :-

Rosa
Postma
Gypes

I knew it, and it will be the same in the summer. Loads of players out, none in,and we will be in the 54!t then!



this season has seen (excluding loan deals) 7 players signed, and 4 sold/released.

[1wolves]

Moxey will come out and say we signed 3 players :-

Rosa
Postma
Gypes

I knew it, and it will be the same in the summer. Loads of players out, none in,and we will be in the 54!t then!



this season has seen (excluding loan deals) 7 players signed, and 4 sold/released.

What difference have these players made on the team? We still can't score, and we are boring to watch!

[Del Woppio]

Thats a different arguement.you said more players out than in, which is wrong.