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28th March 1965
11-12-2005, 11:02
If the Wolves players on the pitch are not going to play to his strengths then it's pretty pointless playing him , he looked very out of sorts at Palace trying to win aimless punts and goalkicks against a 6ft odd defender , he worked hard as the loan striker and run a lot but was totally ineffective with the supply Wolves were giving him.......A lot of fans at the top of the stand where we were sitting sorry standing were slagging him off bigtime but if you give him s!$* supply he will not be effective...


While I'm on about strikers Leon Clarke I'm sorry needs to be dumped to the curb , the kid is shot and shouldn't touch thr first team until he works on how to control a ball and play your team mates in , Cornes was on the bench yesterday it's time we gave him a go instead of Clarke..

Oldgold Wolfcub
11-12-2005, 11:41
If the Wolves players on the pitch are not going to play to his strengths then it's pretty pointless playing him ,
I agree with you however he is not the only one we do not play to his strengths.
Where I would debate with you is that why should we then expect a youngster such as Clarke to flourish in those same conditions.

28th March 1965
11-12-2005, 11:51
He struggles to do the simple things OGW like layoff a ball simply , countless times he tries to take his man on and 9 times out of 10 he loses out...

Oldgold Wolfcub
11-12-2005, 12:08
He struggles to do the simple things OGW like layoff a ball simply , countless times he tries to take his man on and 9 times out of 10 he loses out...
I am not disagreeing with that point at all. It is just worrying that so many of our youngsters do not seem to be nurtured and losing confidence can bring about what you are saying about him. He needs players around him to bring out the best of him, his timing, etc.
I have heard enough people in the football world who seem to think he has something to just dismiss him. Whether anyone can bring that out I dont know. I can think back to examples of highly rated players who did not make it for us like Kevin Ashley and Graham Rodger.
Forgive me but I am daft enough to want every youngster to be a star.smileys/smiley4.gif

Deutsch Wolf
11-12-2005, 12:12
It's bog all to do with confidence, he's the worst footballer in this division, bar none. Forget the "oh, he scored some goals last season" spiel, he was absolutely rank last season and most people hoped he'd be farmed out. As it is, I think he's made more appearances in total than Kenny Miller. Fabulous.

Kenny-11
11-12-2005, 12:14
Kevin Ashley


Didn't we spend £500k on "Englands next right back"?

Deutsch Wolf
11-12-2005, 12:16
Kevin Ashley


Didn't we spend £500k on "Englands next right back"?





Hell yes. And he was outperformed by Brian Roberts, a man with luminous eyebrows nearly twice his age.

Oldgold Wolfcub
11-12-2005, 12:25
It's bog all to do with confidence, he's the worst footballer in this division, bar none. Forget the "oh, he scored some goals last season" spiel, he was absolutely rank last season and most people hoped he'd be farmed out. As it is, I think he's made more appearances in total than Kenny Miller. Fabulous.
You do have a tremendous disliking of him. Is it possible this could bias you just a little.smileys/smiley4.gif

Deutsch Wolf
11-12-2005, 12:29
It's bog all to do with confidence, he's the worst footballer in this division, bar none. Forget the "oh, he scored some goals last season" spiel, he was absolutely rank last season and most people hoped he'd be farmed out. As it is, I think he's made more appearances in total than Kenny Miller. Fabulous.
You do have a tremendous disliking of him. Is it possible this could bias you just a little.smileys/smiley4.gif



Possibly. smileys/smiley2.gif


However, I've now watched every team in this league and have yet to see a worse player, let alone striker, playing in this division. That includes Brett Ormerod, Jason Jarrett and Jeff Whitley.

EasternWolf
11-12-2005, 12:47
I agree with the original point about Ganea. Quite clearly, he is being wasted. He simply does not suit Hoddle's game and rather than adapt the game to fit the player, the player is being used badly. Players of the calibre of Anderton and Kennedy should know how to deliver balls to him, it is all very basic stuff. I am not surprised by this because i actually dont think many strikers would fit his ideal. At the start of the season everyone was going overboard about how we had 6 good strikers but none of them have thrived in this team. Even thouigh Cort and Miller got a few goals earlier in the season, they also missed far too many. I genuinely think that Cort, Miller, Ganea and Ndah would thrive in another team. These guys are not bad players, they are not lazy, they all care about the club. We cant lay the usual criticisms on them at all.


It always amazes me that we play the approach game in such a way that we inevitably arrive in the opponents box to findit crowded.


As far Clarke, I think that he is now a hopeless case at Wolves. His confidence is shot to pieces. He does deserve the opportunity to pick up his career somewhere else and to play as a central striker.

Kenny-11
11-12-2005, 12:52
As far Clarke, I think that he is now a hopeless case at Wolves. His confidence is shot to pieces. He does deserve the opportunity to pick up his career somewhere else and to play as a central striker.





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IMAB
11-12-2005, 12:54
I genuinely think that Cort, Miller, Ganea and Ndah would thrive in another team. These guys are not bad players, they are not lazy, they all care about the club. We cant lay the usual criticisms on them at all.





Totally agree.


Now think, is it cheaper to replace all of these players who don't fit into Glenns way, or Glenn?

SOA Wolf
11-12-2005, 12:58
If the Wolves players on the pitch are not going to play to his strengths then it's pretty pointless playing him , he looked very out of sorts at Palace trying to win aimless punts and goalkicks against a 6ft odd defender , he worked hard as the loan striker and run a lot but was totally ineffective with the supply Wolves were giving him.......A lot of fans at the top of the stand where we were sitting sorry standing were slagging him off bigtime but if you give him s!$* supply he will not be effective...


While I'm on about strikers Leon Clarke I'm sorry needs to be dumped to the curb , the kid is shot and shouldn't touch thr first team until he works on how to control a ball and play your team mates in , Cornes was on the bench yesterday it's time we gave him a go instead of Clarke..





Good post 28th...although I didn't think we's managed to get in a LOAN striker smileys/smiley2.gifsorry mate...only joking.


This is something that has been picked time and again on this board...not playing to players' strengths....Ganea is a 6 yard box finisher (this does not mean he cannot do anything outside the box..shown that before, Leeds, Newcastle), but instead we use him as a target man...pointless.


The sooner people accept that Hoddle is a clueless idiot that can great football on a piece of paper, but not with real players and we find someone who knows what to do with the squad we have, the sooner we can stop giving him the praise he has not earned at this club. Wolves are 12 months, around £1m in his wages (especially when you take into account packages that usually come with the job) and lost confidence of players, further behind and going nowhere.


Time for a clear out and it should start from the top down.

Sheriff Woody
11-12-2005, 13:15
I agree with your point about Ganea as well but it also applies to virtually every other player who have played this season. Ganea is not a target man, hoofing the ball down the wings or upfield for him to win a flick on or hold the ball up is not the way forward, he is a box player give him the ball at his feet in the box and he'll score a few I have no doubts that he's the best finisher at this club.


The same works for Cort when he's played, I lost count of the number of times this season that Cort was in a wide position putting crosses into the box for Miller, Seol et al. He should be in the box winning headers, he's fifteen foot three for godsake.


Colin Cameron needs to be able to get into the box, he's at his best when he's arriving late into the box, however he seems to be employed alongside Kennedy, Huddlestone etc in a deep lying midfield.


Seol, whilst excelling on occasions and being infuriating on others is not allowed the freedom he needs, once the opposition have worked him out and put two men on him we may as well be playing without him, let him wander about and he'll create space for himself and thus become more effective.


We bring on the problems ourselves, after going a goal up the midfield tend to sit just in front of the defence and allow the opposition far too much room, we won't keep a lead if we keep doing this. If we are going to give ourselves a fighting chance we need to start playing to our strengths. We have no width, no drive, no one to unlock the door when the game is tight, no urgency and most importantly no movement. I understand the concept of playing pretty football but when everything is static it isn't going to work everything's going to go sideways or backwards allowing the opposition to get back. It's a concept that Wolves teams and coacheshave struggled to grasp for many years.


Hoddle needs tosort it out, surelyhe can see that it's not working, whether it's the formation or the personel not understanding it or the fact that they aren't willing to be a team I don't know but the unfortunately the buck stops with himand if Wolves are going to be successful something needs to change.

Essex Wolf
11-12-2005, 13:54
For me Vio is a penalty box poacher type player where his best ability is finishing. Getting him to run about like a headless chicken is a waste of his and the teams time IMHO. I've often thought he is lazy but quite simply put he is player that likes the ball to feet in an area where he can do most damage. Edited by: Essex Wolf

EasternWolf
11-12-2005, 13:55
A concensus is forming here - dangerous stuff.





I have always supported Hoddle. Now I am starting to doubyt if he is the kind of manager to bring a club round. Maybe he has an abundance of talent for many things but i think he needs someone alongside him who is a strong motivator and who will argue with him as well. Ince in 2-3 years may be the man or someone like him now.


However, the whole point about Ganea is that he is not a "maybe" sort of player - perhaps like young Clarke. With Leon some people claim he can play, others that he cant. There are lots of players like this at any club at this level. There are others for whom one canclaim that he's being played out of position. Neither of these can be claimed for Ganea. He is a proven current international player of good standing who is being played in his own position. He is one hell of a battler. He loves the club.


I am beginning to think that Henry and Van Nistelroy would struggle for us.

7X
11-12-2005, 14:19
It beggars belief when you say it's not working. How many clear cut chances did we create yesterday - 6 or 7 at least and managed to only put the "fluke" away.


There was nowt wrong with our game yesterday save the finishing.


I am beginning to find some considerable sympathy for the Boss !

Essex Wolf
11-12-2005, 14:27
I agree to a point 7X. GH can only send the players out and then sit back and suffer, as the fans do, the pee poor finishing we see most every game. That said Ganea is not suited to the type of game we played yesterday.

The Bear
11-12-2005, 14:30
While I'm on about strikers Leon Clarke I'm
sorry needs to be dumped to the curb , the kid is shot and shouldn't
touch thr first team until he works on how to control a ball and play
your team mates in

Have another look at Cameron's goal against Ipswich. Clarke controlled
the ball very well to give himself some space and then waited for the
right moment to play him in for his shot.



It may only be once in a very bad run of form but he CAN do it. He just
needs to do it more consistently. He wasn't a bad player last season so
I don't see why he's suddenly become one this season. Maybe he just
needs to get some confidence back, and perhaps a loan spell will help
him do it?

Essex Wolf
11-12-2005, 14:34
Bear, at Ipswich Clarke played well for the time he was on and only ruined his performance by missing a sitter late on. However he was again played out of place but stuck to his task and caused he Ipswich defence some problems down the left.

Sheriff Woody
11-12-2005, 14:41
7x - I wasn't trying to point the finger of blame at Hoddle I have supported him from the start and will do until the end but we really do need to start killing teams off, there's no point in having the vast majority of the possession and having umpteen chances if we don't make the most of them.


The problem sticking the ball in the back of the net is a worrying one though, I'm sure he doesn't ask the players to go out and fluff chances from two yards out but the unfortunate thing for him is that many fans look at the table and it doesn't lie.


At times we look very good, more often than not we create half a dozen decent chances in the game but we convert how many? If it wasn't for the defence being fairly solid at the moment we have a lotless points. The unfortunate thing at the moment is that he can't send out the team he wants to and we are left with a team playing in a specific style which doesn't suit some of the personel.

Essex Wolf
11-12-2005, 15:18
Once GH has signed 2 new strikers we won't need to worry about Vio.

EasternWolf
11-12-2005, 17:57
Once GH has signed 2 new strikers we won't need to worry about Vio.


No, but i have a feeling we will need to worry about them instead.

Ashley
11-12-2005, 18:19
Once GH has signed 2 new strikers we won't need to worry about Vio.


Thank god!!

I.D.
11-12-2005, 18:46
This formation is about 4 years too late, it might have worked with
Newton on the right,Blake in the middle and Kennedy on the left. Not
only are the current players not suited to it, they haven't a clue how
to play it either.



Here's my take on how it should work.



The man in the middle stays central and pushes as far forward as he
can. The 2 wide men need to be quick and get forward with the ball
quickly. When the man on the right gets forward with the ball, the
middle man is waiting in the centre and the man on the left gets in
towards the back post. When the man on the left gets forward, the
reverse should be true. Whichever side we attack on, the central
mid-fielders should be following up to pick up the pieces (as
they say in footbal cliche land). This often happens at Chelsea, we are
sadly just not good enough to make it happen.



Not so long ago, Drogba was getting and missing numerous chances for
Chelsea. Luckily for him, Lampard or Cole was usually there to score.
Big BUT; Leon Clarke is not Damien Duff, Seol is not Arjen Robben and
Ganea is not Crespo. The sooner Hoddle realises this, the better.
Either we should play to our players strengths or we should play
players who are suited to the formation. The wide men need to be quick,
attacking mid-fielders and the other mid-fielders need to get
forward in support of the lone striker.



On the face of it, Ganea does look poor. If he gets the ball to his
feet when he is in or near the 18 yard area, he will score more.


Edited by: I.D.

SOA Wolf
11-12-2005, 19:22
It beggars belief when you say it's not working. How many clear cut chances did we create yesterday - 6 or 7 at least and managed to only put the "fluke" away.


There was nowt wrong with our game yesterday save the finishing.


I am beginning to find some considerable sympathy for the Boss !





However you want to cut it this situation is down to the manager...when players were not doing their job, everyone on here was saying it was down to Jones...and quite rightly...he has to motivate, he has to pick the team, he has to ensure those players can do their job......if ONE player does not perform then you can point the finger at the player, when TWO don't you should start wondering if something is wrong...Hoddle has had FIVE different strikers (6 if you counted Seol)...only Cort found the net and even then got stick for not taking his chances....when you see that it has to be something oter than just the players...conclusion Hoddle is a s!$* coach and a poor man manager....some of you just do not want to accept the evidence when it is in front of you...your choice...but you were also the ones who's judgement was that Hoddle was going to get the team playing so well we would walk the league....so your judgement is already flawed...so just accept that there several of us that have been telling you that what is now happening was going to happen because we have seen through the b*lls!$* and hype from early on.


We are going nowhere under this man.

Hatch End Wolf
11-12-2005, 20:24
Hodgod wants his players to produce Premiership quality football. Unfortunately his players are Championship quality or less and they just can't do it.


Given time and money he might produce a team capable of playing pretty football and winning games, but he's not going to get either at this club. We are too small to buy top quality players and too big to wait years whilst a team is developed.


I've got that mid-winter "we're all doomed syndrome" at the moment and all I can see is endless seasons in the Division of death.


No change then!

Hod's 80s perm
11-12-2005, 22:19
I agree that Ganea does not fit into the system, but that doens't make up for what been clearly a lack of effort in the last four games. He's looked disinterested, every challenge is half hearted and his touch has been comical.


In fact, it seems that someone has kidnapped his family and told him he must not try if he wants to see them alive again.


I can't understand his change in attiude at all...http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif

Markwolf
12-12-2005, 00:10
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I can't understand his change in attiude at all...http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif








Maybe the rumoured bust up with Glennis is behind hit - he was the epitomy of commitment before, but he has been criminally uninterested this last few games, and it has shocked me.

SOUTHBANK_BULLY
12-12-2005, 00:52
As far Clarke, I think that he is now a hopeless case at Wolves. His confidence is shot to pieces. He does deserve the opportunity to pick up his career somewhere else and to play as a central striker.





Ready and waiting (http://www.web-teams.co.uk/home.asp?team=molineuxmixersfc)





bugga off you i asked for a 'decent' striker and leon clarke clearly is not

7X
12-12-2005, 09:25
It beggars belief when you say it's not working. How many clear cut chances did we create yesterday - 6 or 7 at least and managed to only put the "fluke" away.


There was nowt wrong with our game yesterday save the finishing.


I am beginning to find some considerable sympathy for the Boss !





However you want to cut it this situation is down to the manager...when players were not doing their job, everyone on here was saying it was down to Jones...and quite rightly...he has to motivate, he has to pick the team, he has to ensure those players can do their job......if ONE player does not perform then you can point the finger at the player, when TWO don't you should start wondering if something is wrong...Hoddle has had FIVE different strikers (6 if you counted Seol)...only Cort found the net and even then got stick for not taking his chances....when you see that it has to be something oter than just the players...conclusion Hoddle is a s!$* coach and a poor man manager....some of you just do not want to accept the evidence when it is in front of you...your choice...but you were also the ones who's judgement was that Hoddle was going to get the team playing so well we would walk the league....so your judgement is already flawed...so just accept that there several of us that have been telling you that what is now happening was going to happen because we have seen through the b*lls!$* and hype from early on.


We are going nowhere under this man.





I have never been pro-Hoddle - until now - and was always in your camp SOA! However, there have been some, in fact many games, where the finishing has lost us points.


GHopenly admits that he is totally frustrated with the lack of finishing - and so he should be angry given the amount of chances we seem to create. Whilst I am not totally enamoured with the man, I think we should try and keep him for the longer term. I can safely say I have changed my view - even given the poor position we now find oursleves in. We have tried and tried again for a quick fix for this side. I think now is the time to give GH the long term opportunity. I for one think that if and when we get promotion, we will be there for the duration!

SOA Wolf
12-12-2005, 15:38
Fair comment 7X and accept your point...I am still convinced that having a striker coach is needed...look at the way Kenny improved having McCoist at Scotland...why oh why do we not give Bully a chance?

Manitoba Wolf
12-12-2005, 16:30
I am still convinced that having a striker coach is needed...look at the way Kenny improved having McCoist at Scotland...why oh why do we not give Bully a chance?


It's a fair question SOA, I wonder why Lee, Jones and Hoddle all say no to bully as a striker coach? Are they afraid of his reputation?


I'd say what have we got to lose by bringing him in as a coach, hopefully he'd instill some passion and consistent effort.....

paddingtonwolf
12-12-2005, 16:46
maybe SGB isn't very easy to work with as a coach? the guy wouldgive everything and he certainly knows where the net is, so I am a bit flummoxed as to why we don't try him out?

Manitoba Wolf
12-12-2005, 16:52
maybe SGB isn't very easy to work with as a coach? the guy wouldgive everything and he certainly knows where the net is, so I am a bit flummoxed as to why we don't try him out?


I'd hope he'd be a bit tough to work with, raise some expectations of players and everyone at Molineux, b/c this underachieving is ticking everyone off.


What harm would it do if we put him on a rolling contract??!!

Hod's 80s perm
12-12-2005, 17:02
It would certainly be a good PR move, as all the blame would be deflected off Hoddle if the goals still didn't fly in.


For what it's worth, I'd certainly welcome SGB taking the reigns as striking coach!

SOA Wolf
12-12-2005, 18:10
I am still convinced that having a striker coach is needed...look at the way Kenny improved having McCoist at Scotland...why oh why do we not give Bully a chance?


It's a fair question SOA, I wonder why Lee, Jones and Hoddle all say no to bully as a striker coach? Are they afraid of his reputation?


I'd say what have we got to lose by bringing him in as a coach, hopefully he'd instill some passion and consistent effort.....





If you want my opinion as to why Hoddle will not bring him in is arrogance. First he may believe itcould show up a defeciency in his coaching methods.


Personally I think it shows a much greater ability to have the common sense to delegate to experts in a particular field...it is what I do personally.


Second, and the one I believe is the more relevant, Hoddle may see Bull as a threat....a bigger personality with more popularity than him...and that may be an issue...don't know, but of the things I have read and observed it may be something that he feels uncomfortable with.


Some people would rather fail and find something to blame other than themselves than to succeed and have the possibility of someone else take ANY of the credit.

Manitoba Wolf
12-12-2005, 18:42
If you want my opinion as to why Hoddle will not bring him in is arrogance. First he may believe itcould show up a defeciency in his coaching methods.


Personally I think it shows a much greater ability to have the common sense to delegate to experts in a particular field...it is what I do personally.


Second, and the one I believe is the more relevant, Hoddle may see Bull as a threat....a bigger personality with more popularity than him...and that may be an issue...don't know, but of the things I have read and observed it may be something that he feels uncomfortable with.


Some people would rather fail and find something to blame other than themselves than to succeed and have the possibility of someone else take ANY of the credit.


[/QUOTE]


It's not just Hoddle though is it, Lee and Jones both turned away from Bull.....

7X
12-12-2005, 19:26
Maybe it might be alittle bit more than individuals. Collectively, it might be the Club that's putting up the hurdles!

SOA Wolf
12-12-2005, 19:33
MW, you are correct, but it is Hoddle who has made specific reference to the strikers and the finishing. I have been harping on about a striker coach for years, but Hoddle really has little excuse for trying it now, first because of the issue he has highlighted and laso because there is now evidence of the system working elsewhere.


You may also be correct 7X, which is why I get so fed up of the small mindedness of those clowns allowed to run the club, they show little or no imagination.

QB Wolf
12-12-2005, 20:36
From what I've seen the 'missing chances myth' is exactly that, you could
count the number of chances we have created in the last 2 home games on 1
hand. Players miss chances even the best players at the highest level, at our
level players will miss more chances and therefore more must be created
playing with what is essentially a 4-5-1 will never create enough. Hoddle it's
rubbish - Ganea or none of the other strikers will do any good playing
alone!!!

SOA Wolf
12-12-2005, 21:26
From what I've seen the 'missing chances myth' is exactly that, you could
count the number of chances we have created in the last 2 home games on 1
hand. Players miss chances even the best players at the highest level, at our
level players will miss more chances and therefore more must be created
playing with what is essentially a 4-5-1 will never create enough. Hoddle it's
rubbish - Ganea or none of the other strikers will do any good playing
alone!!!


SShhh QB, you will upset the pro-Hoddle brigade and wake them from their dreams, they actually believe they see good football and lots of chances and that Glen is a victim of the evil strikers at the club that make his life unbearable.

EasternWolf
13-12-2005, 10:00
Logically, if a team does not employ a specialist striker coach, why employ a specialist goalkeeping coach?


Hey ...wait a minute guys !! Wasn't Terry Connor a striker?

Bill McCai
13-12-2005, 10:05
Glenn Hoddle was 'world class' at free kicks, but I am better than all of our players at taking set pieces ( and I have no feet or legs ).<?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

Essex Wolf
13-12-2005, 10:19
Logically, if a team does not employ a specialist striker coach, why employ a specialist goalkeeping coach?


Hey ...wait a minute guys !! Wasn't Terry Connor a striker?





I believe he was, could explain why ours are so blody naff at times.

PREM.L.L
13-12-2005, 10:24
[QUOTE=Essex Wolf


could explain why ours are so blody naff at times.[/QUOTE]





No mate that's a myth. Our multi million strikeforce have not been missing absolute $$$$$$$ing sitters that would have had us a lot higher up the table. It's all down to Hoddle....remember that!

Jim Bowen
13-12-2005, 10:25
Newcastle tried using specialist coaches under Keegan, they brought in Lawrenson as their defensive coach and look how s!$* they were at the back.

It would be worth a try to have specialist coaches though. The biggest part of being a defender is having good positioning and the perfect coach for that would be Irwin. He could maybe finally sort out Naylor's poor positioning.

QB Wolf
13-12-2005, 11:32
No mate that's a myth. Our multi million strikeforce have not been missing absolute $$$$$$$ing sitters that would have had us a lot higher up the table. It's all down to Hoddle....remember that!





How many chances did we create in the last 2 home games?


We don't play with a strikeforce, that insinuates a partnership!


You are right Hoddle sets us up with a 3 men in front of the back 4 none of which can tackle, puts 2 strikers in wide midfield roles, plays one striker up top and wonders why we aren't scoring goals.

Essex Wolf
13-12-2005, 12:00
[QUOTE=Essex Wolf


could explain why ours are so blody naff at times.





No mate that's a myth. Our multi million strikeforce have not been missing absolute $$$$$$$ing sitters that would have had us a lot higher up the table. It's all down to Hoddle....remember that!


[/QUOTE]


Personally I don't think it has helped that our forward line is rarely the same pairing more than a few games at a time and Hoddle can't be blamed for that because other circumstances have dictated things. Neither do I think he can be blamed for so called well paid professionals missing chances that most half cut Sunday morning pub players would put away when being 3 stone overweight and playing on a mud bath of a pitch.


What I do blame him for is not changing things sooner when he has had the choice to do so.

IMAB
13-12-2005, 12:02
Personally I don't think it has helped that our forward line is rarely the same pairing


What $$$$$$$ing pairing?


We don't play a strike partnership we play one up front on his own! The other two (Miller and Seol at the start) have to play as wingers in Glenns w!$* formation.

Essex Wolf
13-12-2005, 12:05
Personally I don't think it has helped that our forward line is rarely the same pairing


What $$$$$$$ing pairing?


We don't play a strike partnership we play one up front on his own! The other two (Miller and Seol at the start) have to play as wingers in Glenns w!$* formation.





Know what you mean but whatever formation is played it doesn't help that most every other game the players turning out are changed.

IMAB
13-12-2005, 12:11
Personally I don't think it has helped that our forward line is rarely the same pairing


What $$$$$$$ing pairing?


We don't play a strike partnership we play one up front on his own! The other two (Miller and Seol at the start) have to play as wingers in Glenns w!$* formation.





Know what you mean but whatever formation is played it doesn't help that most every other game the players turning out are changed.





If he played two up front it might not matter who plays, it hasn't effected Sheff Utd and they have swapped forwards round all season (I think that Webber, Pericard, Shipperly and Kabba have all played in various pairings). We should not underestimate what a difference having a strike partner to pass to makes to a forward.

Essex Wolf
13-12-2005, 12:16
Agreed IMAB. GH is not blameless in all this at all but should not be expected to take all the blame when the players keep missing so many chances.

EasternWolf
13-12-2005, 17:30
WereI to be made manager for a week, with this squad, I would try something radical ...like playing Cornes in the Rooney role behind Ganea ..or Miller. Give the lad a chance to prove he's no good either!!

scottishwolf II
13-12-2005, 18:40
Agreed IMAB. GH is not blameless in all this at all
but should not be expected to take all the blame when the players keep
missing so many chances.



essex - the voice of reason smileys/smiley3.gif



im with you mate, hoddle isnt blameless. but if youre getting paid a
huge wedge every week to be a striker the least you can do is hit the
bloody target when you are presented with a gilt edged chance, and
ideally even get it past the keeper....


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