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Hereford Wolf
27-11-2005, 10:05
Did anybody see this yesterday...


Leon had been on the pich about 5 mins and lost the ball in midfield quite near the bench.


Glen went mad and proceeded to demonstrate to the subs how Leon should have turned and moved his body in order to keep possession. He then shouted at the players for another few seconds and did his body twist demonstration again !


Made me laugh, but he was obviously soooo frustrated with Leon, he could hardly contain himself.


Did they pick it up on Sky?


If so..it'll be on Soccer AM next week.

Hatch End Wolf
27-11-2005, 11:19
I saw it, and thought "he's wasting his time".


Poor Leon, sadly his ability to lose the ball in that situation is only one of his problems. If Hod can turn the lad into a footballer he will truly be one of the world's great coaches!


Mind you most the team display the same disability andmanyof them havebeen playing for years........ Perhaps he should try and find some better players!

SOA Wolf
27-11-2005, 12:19
So why hadn't he demonstrated this on the training ground and got the guy to practice it until it was 2nd nature...clearly has not done so or Clarke would not have done what he did....watch good coaches in other sports they make people practice and practice until it becomes so natural they do it automatically....more evidence that Hoddle may have been a good player but a poor coach.

Jack Bauer
27-11-2005, 12:22
Bloody Hoddle, worst manager in the league, fancy berating a young lad who is just learning his trade.smileys/smiley7.gif

Molineuxmessiah
27-11-2005, 12:39
Clarke is without doubt the worst striker i have ever seen in a Wolves shirt, worse than Robert Taylor even.

Norwegian Wolf
27-11-2005, 13:00
There have been plenty worse than Leon ..at least he isn't supposed to be the finished article.

cooper_J
27-11-2005, 13:45
Clarke is without doubt the worst striker i have ever seen in a Wolves shirt, worse than Robert Taylor even.


Don't sit on the fence there mate just say what you feel!smileys/smiley36.gif

The Bear
27-11-2005, 14:22
So why hadn't he demonstrated this on the training
ground and got the guy to practice it until it was 2nd nature...clearly
has not done so or Clarke would not have done what he did....watch good
coaches in other sports they make people practice and practice until it
becomes so natural they do it automatically....more evidence that
Hoddle may have been a good player but a poor coach.

You obviously don't remember the guy ages ago saying he went to
training and saw Hoddle teaching Naylor how to knock it down the line
to someone's feet and got him to keep doing it and doing it until he
got it right.





Maybe it's the first time Glenn saw Leon do that or maybe he was
telling the bench how he's been showing him how to do it in training
and can't understand why he's not doing it on the pitch.



Unless you know exactly what Hoddle was saying or what training Clarke
has had in tht area, how can you criticise his coaching methods?

Leeky
27-11-2005, 14:44
I also saw hoddles demonstration to clarke, instructing to get the ball and turn in one movement. Probably wasting his time cos I've seen canal barges turn quicker than clarke! smileys/smiley36.gif

wolf of sedgley
27-11-2005, 18:16
Did anybody see this yesterday...


Leon had been on the pich about 5 mins and lost the ball in midfield quite near the bench.


Glen went mad and proceeded to demonstrate to the subs how Leon
should have turned and moved his body in order to keep possession. He
then shouted at the players for another few seconds and did his body
twist demonstration again !


Made me laugh, but he was obviously soooo frustrated with Leon, he could hardly contain himself.


Did they pick it up on Sky?


If so..it'll be on Soccer AM next week.

smileys/smiley36.gif I saw that as well! It was the funniest.smileys/smiley36.gifsmileys/smiley36.gif

Hatch End Wolf
27-11-2005, 18:33
Nobody expects Leon to be another George Best, buthe's trained with a professional club as a youth, reserve and now 1st team squad player. The ability to trap a ball and shield it from an opponent is surely a basic requirement. After all that training he can't do it, so he's either a useless footballer or the people who've been coaching him are useless.

wolfie smith
27-11-2005, 18:50
we see time and time again, other young strikers make more impression than leon, he aint good enough, keeeping sturridge would have been better

wolf of sedgley
27-11-2005, 19:19
Bring back cornes!

dr cool
27-11-2005, 20:37
So why hadn't he demonstrated this on the training
ground and got the guy to practice it until it was 2nd nature...clearly
has not done so or Clarke would not have done what he did....watch good
coaches in other sports they make people practice and practice until it
becomes so natural they do it automatically....more evidence that
Hoddle may have been a good player but a poor coach.



he cant make a silk purse out of a cows ear......



drsmileys/smiley16.gif

WakefieldWolf
27-11-2005, 21:23
On the subject on improving players on the training ground/tactics, i don't understand why time and time again he drags Naylor all the way from his LB position to take free kicks and corners from the opposite side of the field, when it is obvious (and has been for years)that naylor only has one good delivery in about every 100.

On the subject of new signings, if we were keeping a close eye on Nathan Tyson, then how come he's gone to the Tree's.

I think for about 750k he would have been worth a go and i'm sure if he didn't work out we could have at least got our money back from selling him on.

It just goes to show what an inept management set up we have got a this club.

As for Campbell/Helguson and Cole, thank God they didn't come, none of those three would have dramatically improved us.

The time to improve the squad was last Summer, not three months into the season when all that is on offer is other teams cast offs who are clearly not good enough.

A top class CH, (not average Gyepes on loan and a Bl00dy contract extension for cruddock).

No Decent Ince replacement, just Ricketts (average player, doesn't create anything of note and doesn't score either and now injured/dissapeared). Oh and sick note, another player past his best.

I could go on, but i'll just depress you and me even more.

Wombourne Wolf
27-11-2005, 21:51
Im sure if Tyson was any good he would of been here, Gorman wasnt exactly going to lie to Hoddle about his ability etc. Tyson failed at this level 2 seasons ago for Reading, so theres no guarentee he could cut it at Championship level now?

SOA Wolf
27-11-2005, 22:45
You obviously don't remember the guy ages ago saying he went to training and saw Hoddle teaching Naylor how to knock it down the line to someone's feet and got him to keep doing it and doing it until he got it right.

Maybe it's the first time Glenn saw Leon do that or maybe he was telling the bench how he's been showing him how to do it in training and can't understand why he's not doing it on the pitch.

Unless you know exactly what Hoddle was saying or what training Clarke has had in tht area, how can you criticise his coaching methods?



Because of the results on the pitch...if they are not performing/finishing/defending properly, etc etc.it must be that the coaching is poor.

fenella
28-11-2005, 09:11
So the only reason Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal are top of the Premiership is because of the quality of coaching? It has nothing to do with the quality of the squad?

glasgowwolf
28-11-2005, 16:15
ok so he lost the ball.


Yes Hoddle tried to get it through to him how he should have done it. Hopefully he will learn from it the guy is only 20 years old


what was the worst bit of play on Saturday ? why has it not been highlighted

SOA Wolf
28-11-2005, 19:50
So the only reason Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal are top of the Premiership is because of the quality of coaching? It has nothing to do with the quality of the squad?


Well you tell me....how many clubs are there that have spent shedloads on players but have still under performed...Newcastle, Blackburn, Leeds...what about our good selves...just because a squad is put together does not make a great team...look at Real Madrid for underperforming at a vast expense.


I get sick of people critising Mourinho and saying he is only doing well because of the money he has spent....it is b*ll*cks...he is a great coach and manager...he has proven this with his previous clubs...Chelsea spent plenty under Ranieri the year before and won nothing.....so the theory it is just the money Mourinho has spent is the reason Chelsea are doing so well is complete cr*p. The threeteams you have quoted all have great managers that have won trophies at more than one club, thus proving they are good managers....Hoddle has won nothing at club level...he is a joke and the quality of his coaching is clear for all to see.....underperforming players and mindless tactics...the guy is a joke.

Leicesterwolf
28-11-2005, 22:29
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Surprised no-one has mentioned DJ's big praise of Leon on Sky. Perhaps he's one of (many) footballers that need encouragement not thier heads filling with stuff they can't do.


SGB was a classic of a player who was coached to his strengths not weaknesses.


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Ogerp
28-11-2005, 22:46
He is teaching him how to duck and dive and be a right geezer.

fenella
29-11-2005, 11:15
So the only reason Man Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal are top of the Premiership is because of the quality of coaching? It has nothing to do with the quality of the squad?


Well you tell me....how many clubs are there that have spent shedloads on players but have still under performed...Newcastle, Blackburn, Leeds...what about our good selves...just because a squad is put together does not make a great team...look at Real Madrid for underperforming at a vast expense.


I get sick of people critising Mourinho and saying he is only doing well because of the money he has spent....it is b*ll*cks...he is a great coach and manager...he has proven this with his previous clubs...Chelsea spent plenty under Ranieri the year before and won nothing.....so the theory it is just the money Mourinho has spent is the reason Chelsea are doing so well is complete cr*p. The threeteams you have quoted all have great managers that have won trophies at more than one club, thus proving they are good managers....Hoddle has won nothing at club level...he is a joke and the quality of his coaching is clear for all to see.....underperforming players and mindless tactics...the guy is a joke.





My point was, it is not JUST about coaching like you seemed to suggest, it is also about having good, talented players to work with in the first place. Coaches make good players better but then don't make carp players good. Leon Clarke is not a good player at the moment, so whether he is coached by Mourinho or Hoddle, he still won't be a good player.

Del Woppio
29-11-2005, 11:42
You obviously don't remember the guy ages ago saying he went to training and saw Hoddle teaching Naylor how to knock it down the line to someone's feet and got him to keep doing it and doing it until he got it right.

Maybe it's the first time Glenn saw Leon do that or maybe he was telling the bench how he's been showing him how to do it in training and can't understand why he's not doing it on the pitch.

Unless you know exactly what Hoddle was saying or what training Clarke has had in tht area, how can you criticise his coaching methods?



Because of the results on the pitch...if they are not performing/finishing/defending properly, etc etc.it must be that the coaching is poor.





how many clean sheets in a row?? when was the last time we achieved this feat?


answers on a postcard

SOA Wolf
29-11-2005, 13:43
My point was, it is not JUST about coaching like you seemed to suggest, it is also about having good, talented players to work with in the first place. Coaches make good players better but then don't make carp players good. Leon Clarke is not a good player at the moment, so whether he is coached by Mourinho or Hoddle, he still won't be a good player.


But according to Hoddle our squad was good enough...he has even agreed to the extension of contracts...so he must think they are good players.....but you were saying why are those particular teams at the top....because of the managers....buying the right players, coaching them properly, picking the right team and having the right tactics....the question is which one if not all is Hoddle bad at....based on the results and the deterioration in our performances I'd say coaching and tactics....but whatever it shows the man is not up to the job....wish we had Ian Dowie....now he IS a good manager, proved it time and again....with VERY ordinary players which is all they can afford produces great results....bet he wishes he had the same resources as Hoddle.

SOA Wolf
29-11-2005, 13:46
You obviously don't remember the guy ages ago saying he went to training and saw Hoddle teaching Naylor how to knock it down the line to someone's feet and got him to keep doing it and doing it until he got it right.

Maybe it's the first time Glenn saw Leon do that or maybe he was telling the bench how he's been showing him how to do it in training and can't understand why he's not doing it on the pitch.

Unless you know exactly what Hoddle was saying or what training Clarke has had in tht area, how can you criticise his coaching methods?



Because of the results on the pitch...if they are not performing/finishing/defending properly, etc etc.it must be that the coaching is poor.





how many clean sheets in a row?? when was the last time we achieved this feat?


answers on a postcard





No point answering someone who cannot be bothered to look at all comments posted...Have said before statistically we should have had a run of 4 or 5 games with clean sheets....it has only taken him a YEAR to get TWO in a row, which he has extended to 4 because we have played teams that have not been attacking us.....oh and luck...Derby hitting the crossbar, etc.....sorry I cannot get excited about dropping down thedivision.


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