Oldgold Wolfcub
26-11-2005, 18:38
Two more big clubs who go above us. Never mind the Board does Glenn Hoddle give a damn.
View Full Version : Burnley and Stoke.
BarmyWolf
26-11-2005, 18:42
Who said they are big clubs come to think of it were no longer a
big club at present.Big in the past yes not in the present,As much as
it pains me to say so were nothing more than a division 1
side....
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big club at present.Big in the past yes not in the present,As much as
it pains me to say so were nothing more than a division 1
side....
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Essex Wolf
26-11-2005, 18:44
BW, Wolves have fantastic support and a history to be proud of but I know what you mean.
Oldgold Wolfcub
26-11-2005, 18:49
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Prove me wrong by all means but what makes us a big club at present ?
It is up to the Board and Hoddle at present to prove anyone wrong. BW I
was being sarcastic in my post, the point being that more clubs are
climbing above us. But as long as the rest of the division respects the
ninth club that will be alright for some(Can we have a sarcastic icon)
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Prove me wrong by all means but what makes us a big club at present ?
It is up to the Board and Hoddle at present to prove anyone wrong. BW I
was being sarcastic in my post, the point being that more clubs are
climbing above us. But as long as the rest of the division respects the
ninth club that will be alright for some(Can we have a sarcastic icon)
BarmyWolf
26-11-2005, 18:55
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Prove me wrong by all means but what makes us a big club at present ?
It is up to the Board and Hoddle at present to prove anyone wrong. BW I
was being sarcastic in my post, the point being that more clubs are
climbing above us. But as long as the rest of the division respects the
ninth club that will be alright for some(Can we have a sarcastic icon)
I wasnt attacking what you said i was just purely having a rant
not at you but at the amount of people that think that we are still a
big club when we aint.
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Prove me wrong by all means but what makes us a big club at present ?
It is up to the Board and Hoddle at present to prove anyone wrong. BW I
was being sarcastic in my post, the point being that more clubs are
climbing above us. But as long as the rest of the division respects the
ninth club that will be alright for some(Can we have a sarcastic icon)
I wasnt attacking what you said i was just purely having a rant
not at you but at the amount of people that think that we are still a
big club when we aint.
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Bumbamuffin
26-11-2005, 19:07
Oldgold WC,our present position in the league roughly represents the quality of our squad.Why should we be near the top ? We're average at best.End of. We're now no better than a Stoke or a Burnley.GH,JM and the players will get paid their huge salaries whether we're 1st or 12th.Why should they care? The club is rotten from top to bottom.smileys/smiley7.gif
Essex Wolf
26-11-2005, 19:14
Oldgold WC,our present position in the league roughly represents the quality of our squad.Why should we be near the top ? We're average at best.End of. We're now no better than a Stoke or a Burnley.GH,JM and the players will get paid their huge salaries whether we're 1st or 12th.Why should they care? The club is rotten from top to bottom.smileys/smiley7.gif
More and more are seeing this but as I said elsewhere careful mate, some don't like certain opnions being spoken of even if they may be near the truth???
More and more are seeing this but as I said elsewhere careful mate, some don't like certain opnions being spoken of even if they may be near the truth???
Bumbamuffin
26-11-2005, 19:22
Essex,as I've said on previous posts,I've got my own opinion and don't really care of the criticism this may bring.Others will say I'm negative,I'll say they're naive.
If someone wants to censor me for not joining in with the SJH love in,fair enough. It's like the old adage "Here's 10p,go and phone someone who gives a fck".
If someone wants to censor me for not joining in with the SJH love in,fair enough. It's like the old adage "Here's 10p,go and phone someone who gives a fck".
wolfie smith
26-11-2005, 19:25
essex you are right that more and more are seeing it now, i was one whobacked the board and glenn, i dont mind admitting it, its what your supposed to do as a supporter. what gets peoples backs up about the doom merchants is most of them, not all, were on glenns back as soon as he came. many managers have tried before him, there is no quick fix with wolves, it will take time, if he is to stay he needs to rebuild and yes you all said it all along, his fault IMHO is trying to get the quality player instead of getting strength in depth throughout the team, hence the "why did so and so sign him he could have done a job for us" threads have been posted.
$$$$$$$ the fancy play glenn just attack attack attacksmileys/smiley32.gif
$$$$$$$ the fancy play glenn just attack attack attacksmileys/smiley32.gif
Essex Wolf
26-11-2005, 19:28
Essex,as I've said on previous posts,I've got my own opinion and don't really care of the criticism this may bring.Others will say I'm negative,I'll say they're naive.
If someone wants to censor me for not joining in with the SJH love in,fair enough. It's like the old adage "Here's 10p,go and phone someone who gives a fck".
Mate, you and I are of the same mindset and I like the way you post. Say it as it is in your view, say what's in your heart and mind and don't give a $$$$$$ what others say or think.smileys/smiley20.gif
WS, I still back GH even though today I question his tactics and team selection but he can only work with the tools he is given and for me many of the tools acquired by his predecessor are poor quality and in need of replacement.
Unfortunately it seems the person that holds he purse string is happy to make he old tools keep going until they totally fail.Edited by: Essex Wolf
If someone wants to censor me for not joining in with the SJH love in,fair enough. It's like the old adage "Here's 10p,go and phone someone who gives a fck".
Mate, you and I are of the same mindset and I like the way you post. Say it as it is in your view, say what's in your heart and mind and don't give a $$$$$$ what others say or think.smileys/smiley20.gif
WS, I still back GH even though today I question his tactics and team selection but he can only work with the tools he is given and for me many of the tools acquired by his predecessor are poor quality and in need of replacement.
Unfortunately it seems the person that holds he purse string is happy to make he old tools keep going until they totally fail.Edited by: Essex Wolf
Hod's 80s perm
26-11-2005, 19:35
On paper, our squad is way ahead of Burnley and Stoke, both of which have gone through some really bad runs this season and have had behind the scene shananigans.
Yes we lost to Burnley at home, but who can actually say they thought Burnley were anything but shocking with a good dead ball specialist.
We are underperforming across the club, simple as!
Yes we lost to Burnley at home, but who can actually say they thought Burnley were anything but shocking with a good dead ball specialist.
We are underperforming across the club, simple as!
Essex Wolf
26-11-2005, 19:45
On paper, our squad is way ahead of Burnley and Stoke, both of which have gone through some really bad runs this season and have had behind the scene shananigans.
Yes we lost to Burnley at home, but who can actually say they thought Burnley were anything but shocking with a good dead ball specialist.
We are underperforming across the club, simple as!
Agreed so why have steps not been taken to remedy things?
Yes we lost to Burnley at home, but who can actually say they thought Burnley were anything but shocking with a good dead ball specialist.
We are underperforming across the club, simple as!
Agreed so why have steps not been taken to remedy things?
1wolves
26-11-2005, 19:50
On paper, our squad is way ahead of Burnley and Stoke, both of which
have gone through some really bad runs this season and have had behind
the scene shananigans.
Yes we lost to Burnley at home, but who can actually say they
thought Burnley were anything but shocking with a good dead ball
specialist.
We are underperforming across the club, simple as!
Agreed so why have steps not been taken to remedy things?
How can we cure this problem? It's an internal problem
have gone through some really bad runs this season and have had behind
the scene shananigans.
Yes we lost to Burnley at home, but who can actually say they
thought Burnley were anything but shocking with a good dead ball
specialist.
We are underperforming across the club, simple as!
Agreed so why have steps not been taken to remedy things?
How can we cure this problem? It's an internal problem
Essex Wolf
26-11-2005, 19:55
On paper, our squad is way ahead of Burnley and Stoke, both of which have gone through some really bad runs this season and have had behind the scene shananigans.
Yes we lost to Burnley at home, but who can actually say they thought Burnley were anything but shocking with a good dead ball specialist.
We are underperforming across the club, simple as!
Agreed so why have steps not been taken to remedy things?
How can we cure this problem? It's an internal problem
By getting rid of the problem.
Yes we lost to Burnley at home, but who can actually say they thought Burnley were anything but shocking with a good dead ball specialist.
We are underperforming across the club, simple as!
Agreed so why have steps not been taken to remedy things?
How can we cure this problem? It's an internal problem
By getting rid of the problem.
dr cool
26-11-2005, 20:04
ffs, they wont be above us come may.....
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Essex Wolf
26-11-2005, 20:04
How can you be so sure though DC?
Hod's 80s perm
26-11-2005, 20:12
How can you be so sure though DC?
He can't, he's the sort of eternal optimist that on finding out his wife was having it up the arse by his mate at work, he would respond with 'well at least he ain't an albion fan'
He can't, he's the sort of eternal optimist that on finding out his wife was having it up the arse by his mate at work, he would respond with 'well at least he ain't an albion fan'
Oldgold Wolfcub
26-11-2005, 20:14
I raised this thread for exactly the thoughts you are giving above.
These need to be voiced more and more to bring this situation to a
head.
It does also need to be said that on a footballing basis we have not
moved on in the time that Jack Hayward has been with us. I would even
go so far as to land us with Tim is an insult to every fan. To run a
business you need people who are capable of making it successful and
are committed to the task. He has had every opportunity over the years
to do that and has not.
Dr I love your positivity but I am sure you still believe in Santa Claus.smileys/smiley1.gif
These need to be voiced more and more to bring this situation to a
head.
It does also need to be said that on a footballing basis we have not
moved on in the time that Jack Hayward has been with us. I would even
go so far as to land us with Tim is an insult to every fan. To run a
business you need people who are capable of making it successful and
are committed to the task. He has had every opportunity over the years
to do that and has not.
Dr I love your positivity but I am sure you still believe in Santa Claus.smileys/smiley1.gif
goldeneyed
26-11-2005, 20:20
The managers of our club should be ashamed of where we currently are in the league. Reading, that Super club, are literally miles ahead of us and we are still in November.And that is despite losing their record signing Lita for many of those games.
It is a poor league quality-wise and with a little bit of ambition in the summer we could have been right up there. For Burnley,Stoke Cardiff etc to be ahead of us is a testimony to our club's total incompetence imv. Even with injuries our team should be at least 12/15 points better offthan they are at this moment. Leeds are the only bigger club in this league and they have done brilliantly to recover from financial ruin in such a short time. From the opening day of the season it has been obvious that they are absolutely determined to get back up and their recent bid for Andy Reid reflects that attitude.
Our club are leaderless and rudderless drifting in a no man's land filled with false promises and half truths. Do the Haywards even want another stint at the Premiership knowing that the pressure would be on to cough up adequate funds to give the manager a chance? I sincerely have my doubts. Everything about the club seems half hearted at the moment and the players' mostly abysmal performances reflect this. The table doesn't lie. It reflects the mediocrity that has become the fans' staple diet in recent years. How much longer is the club going to command crowds of 25,000 if it keeps serving up rubbish. Even the most devoted fans musy be seeing through the spin by now.
PS I don't particularly blame Hoddle, as this is a long term problem and he has been stuck mainly with the brilliant DJ's players,although he has obviously made mistakes himself. The buck ultimately stops with him however, and if this depressing trend continues he will be running out of excuses, especially if the board is offering him £2-3m towards badly needed reinforcements which we assume is the case based on the supposed £2.25m bid for Rasiak which surprise, surprise, failed.
End of rant.
In my fantasy land for January I see us offering £3.5m for Huddlestone and £2m for Nugent. Dream on baby.
It is a poor league quality-wise and with a little bit of ambition in the summer we could have been right up there. For Burnley,Stoke Cardiff etc to be ahead of us is a testimony to our club's total incompetence imv. Even with injuries our team should be at least 12/15 points better offthan they are at this moment. Leeds are the only bigger club in this league and they have done brilliantly to recover from financial ruin in such a short time. From the opening day of the season it has been obvious that they are absolutely determined to get back up and their recent bid for Andy Reid reflects that attitude.
Our club are leaderless and rudderless drifting in a no man's land filled with false promises and half truths. Do the Haywards even want another stint at the Premiership knowing that the pressure would be on to cough up adequate funds to give the manager a chance? I sincerely have my doubts. Everything about the club seems half hearted at the moment and the players' mostly abysmal performances reflect this. The table doesn't lie. It reflects the mediocrity that has become the fans' staple diet in recent years. How much longer is the club going to command crowds of 25,000 if it keeps serving up rubbish. Even the most devoted fans musy be seeing through the spin by now.
PS I don't particularly blame Hoddle, as this is a long term problem and he has been stuck mainly with the brilliant DJ's players,although he has obviously made mistakes himself. The buck ultimately stops with him however, and if this depressing trend continues he will be running out of excuses, especially if the board is offering him £2-3m towards badly needed reinforcements which we assume is the case based on the supposed £2.25m bid for Rasiak which surprise, surprise, failed.
End of rant.
In my fantasy land for January I see us offering £3.5m for Huddlestone and £2m for Nugent. Dream on baby.
dr cool
26-11-2005, 21:02
How can you be so sure though DC?
He can't, he's the sort of eternal optimist that on finding out his
wife was having it up the arse by his mate at work, he would respond
with 'well at least he ain't an albion fan'
crackpot....you really are a dick arent you !!
drsmileys/smiley16.gif
Edited by: dr cool
He can't, he's the sort of eternal optimist that on finding out his
wife was having it up the arse by his mate at work, he would respond
with 'well at least he ain't an albion fan'
crackpot....you really are a dick arent you !!
drsmileys/smiley16.gif
Edited by: dr cool
Hod's 80s perm
27-11-2005, 20:37
How can you be so sure though DC?
He can't, he's the sort of eternal optimist that on finding out his wife was having it up the arse by his mate at work, he would respond with 'well at least he ain't an albion fan'
crackpot....you really are a dick arent you !!
drsmileys/smiley16.gif
I'm not the one who keeps putting a stevie wonder after the end of all my statements.
He can't, he's the sort of eternal optimist that on finding out his wife was having it up the arse by his mate at work, he would respond with 'well at least he ain't an albion fan'
crackpot....you really are a dick arent you !!
drsmileys/smiley16.gif
I'm not the one who keeps putting a stevie wonder after the end of all my statements.
dr cool
27-11-2005, 20:43
How can you be so sure though DC?
He can't, he's the sort of eternal optimist that on finding out his
wife was having it up the arse by his mate at work, he would respond
with 'well at least he ain't an albion fan'
crackpot....you really are a dick arent you !!
rdrsmileys/smiley16.gif
I'm not the one who keeps putting a stevie wonder after the end of all my statements.
i bet you are pleased when we lose....
drsmileys/smiley16.gif
Edited by: dr cool
He can't, he's the sort of eternal optimist that on finding out his
wife was having it up the arse by his mate at work, he would respond
with 'well at least he ain't an albion fan'
crackpot....you really are a dick arent you !!
rdrsmileys/smiley16.gif
I'm not the one who keeps putting a stevie wonder after the end of all my statements.
i bet you are pleased when we lose....
drsmileys/smiley16.gif
Edited by: dr cool
Hod's 80s perm
27-11-2005, 20:50
How can you be so sure though DC?
He can't, he's the sort of eternal optimist that on finding out his wife was having it up the arse by his mate at work, he would respond with 'well at least he ain't an albion fan'
crackpot....you really are a dick arent you !!
rdrsmileys/smiley16.gif
I'm not the one who keeps putting a stevie wonder after the end of all my statements.
i bet you are pleased when we lose....
drsmileys/smiley16.gif
Same old dr cool, no one else shares his optimism so we must always want Wolves to lose.
Just to let you know I hate it when Wolves lose, I'm moody until the next game (the Mrs will confirm that), I take it out on the kids by grounding them for the year and I normally can't watch football for a couple of days.
But if it helps you to think that I attend every single game (home and away) and enjoy the prospect of travelling back from Brighton after watching us struggle to a boring 1-1, then fair enough.
We can't all live in Manchester and watch games through rose tinted spectacles.
NB: By the way, I don't mind your blind faith, each to their own.
He can't, he's the sort of eternal optimist that on finding out his wife was having it up the arse by his mate at work, he would respond with 'well at least he ain't an albion fan'
crackpot....you really are a dick arent you !!
rdrsmileys/smiley16.gif
I'm not the one who keeps putting a stevie wonder after the end of all my statements.
i bet you are pleased when we lose....
drsmileys/smiley16.gif
Same old dr cool, no one else shares his optimism so we must always want Wolves to lose.
Just to let you know I hate it when Wolves lose, I'm moody until the next game (the Mrs will confirm that), I take it out on the kids by grounding them for the year and I normally can't watch football for a couple of days.
But if it helps you to think that I attend every single game (home and away) and enjoy the prospect of travelling back from Brighton after watching us struggle to a boring 1-1, then fair enough.
We can't all live in Manchester and watch games through rose tinted spectacles.
NB: By the way, I don't mind your blind faith, each to their own.
dr cool
27-11-2005, 20:52
How can you be so sure though DC?
He can't, he's the sort of eternal optimist that on finding out his
wife was having it up the arse by his mate at work, he would respond
with 'well at least he ain't an albion fan'
crackpot....you really are a dick arent you !!
rdrsmileys/smiley16.gif
I'm not the one who keeps putting a stevie wonder after the end of all my statements.
i bet you are pleased when we lose....
drsmileys/smiley16.gif
Same old dr cool, no one else shares his optimism so we must always want Wolves to lose.
Just to let you know I hate it when Wolves lose, I'm moody until the
next game (the Mrs will confirm that), I take it out on the kids by
grounding them for the year and I normally can't watch football for a
couple of days.
But if it helps you to think that I attend every single game (home
and away) and enjoy the prospect of travelling back from Brighton after
watching us struggle to a boring 1-1, then fair enough.
We can't all live in Manchester and watch games through rose tinted spectacles.
NB: By the way, I don't mind your blind faith, each to their own.
rose tinted specs ??smileys/smiley36.gif
drsmileys/smiley16.gif
He can't, he's the sort of eternal optimist that on finding out his
wife was having it up the arse by his mate at work, he would respond
with 'well at least he ain't an albion fan'
crackpot....you really are a dick arent you !!
rdrsmileys/smiley16.gif
I'm not the one who keeps putting a stevie wonder after the end of all my statements.
i bet you are pleased when we lose....
drsmileys/smiley16.gif
Same old dr cool, no one else shares his optimism so we must always want Wolves to lose.
Just to let you know I hate it when Wolves lose, I'm moody until the
next game (the Mrs will confirm that), I take it out on the kids by
grounding them for the year and I normally can't watch football for a
couple of days.
But if it helps you to think that I attend every single game (home
and away) and enjoy the prospect of travelling back from Brighton after
watching us struggle to a boring 1-1, then fair enough.
We can't all live in Manchester and watch games through rose tinted spectacles.
NB: By the way, I don't mind your blind faith, each to their own.
rose tinted specs ??smileys/smiley36.gif
drsmileys/smiley16.gif
Hod's 80s perm
27-11-2005, 20:54
How can you be so sure though DC?
He can't, he's the sort of eternal optimist that on finding out his wife was having it up the arse by his mate at work, he would respond with 'well at least he ain't an albion fan'
crackpot....you really are a dick arent you !!
rdrsmileys/smiley16.gif
I'm not the one who keeps putting a stevie wonder after the end of all my statements.
i bet you are pleased when we lose....
drsmileys/smiley16.gif
Same old dr cool, no one else shares his optimism so we must always want Wolves to lose.
Just to let you know I hate it when Wolves lose, I'm moody until the next game (the Mrs will confirm that), I take it out on the kids by grounding them for the year and I normally can't watch football for a couple of days.
But if it helps you to think that I attend every single game (home and away) and enjoy the prospect of travelling back from Brighton after watching us struggle to a boring 1-1, then fair enough.
We can't all live in Manchester and watch games through rose tinted spectacles.
NB: By the way, I don't mind your blind faith, each to their own.
rose tinted specs ??smileys/smiley36.gif
drsmileys/smiley16.gif
I didn't realise what I was puttingsmileys/smiley36.gif
He can't, he's the sort of eternal optimist that on finding out his wife was having it up the arse by his mate at work, he would respond with 'well at least he ain't an albion fan'
crackpot....you really are a dick arent you !!
rdrsmileys/smiley16.gif
I'm not the one who keeps putting a stevie wonder after the end of all my statements.
i bet you are pleased when we lose....
drsmileys/smiley16.gif
Same old dr cool, no one else shares his optimism so we must always want Wolves to lose.
Just to let you know I hate it when Wolves lose, I'm moody until the next game (the Mrs will confirm that), I take it out on the kids by grounding them for the year and I normally can't watch football for a couple of days.
But if it helps you to think that I attend every single game (home and away) and enjoy the prospect of travelling back from Brighton after watching us struggle to a boring 1-1, then fair enough.
We can't all live in Manchester and watch games through rose tinted spectacles.
NB: By the way, I don't mind your blind faith, each to their own.
rose tinted specs ??smileys/smiley36.gif
drsmileys/smiley16.gif
I didn't realise what I was puttingsmileys/smiley36.gif
