Wolves Season Review 2007-2008 Banner When Clarke was subbed.. [Archive] - Molineux Mix

View Full Version : When Clarke was subbed..


Shergar
18-11-2005, 22:11
He was obviously mouthing off a lot of expletives of $$$$$$$*ng $$$$$$$*r etc... Was he upset at his own shocking performance? or the fact that he was being subbed?


Either way, it's obvious he has a confidence crisis which is also effecting the rest of the team judging by the way they raised their game when ndah came on.


He has got to be loaned out - for his own sake.


AND it has been mentioned that the crowd get on his back and don't support him, well this was yet another away game when he was attrocious, so the molineux crowd can't be blamed for the imaginary boos that some posters claim to hear aimed at Leon.

Sozzled Wolf
18-11-2005, 22:23
From the look of it he was disgusted at his own performance. He was muttering words to himself for sure. A good sign, if anything. At least he recognises his faults and knows he needs to improve.

Shifnal Wolf
18-11-2005, 22:24
i didnt think he played well (as he knows and showed it) but also he
wasnt getting many balls played upto him so he could run onto them
(apart from the kennedy one in the 1st half). i think he needs to be
rested as there's too much pressure on him-maybe loan him to a league 1
side when miller, cort and ndah are at full fitness

SOA Wolf
18-11-2005, 22:26
From the look of it he was disgusted at his own performance. He was muttering words to himself for sure. A good sign, if anything. At least he recognises his faults and knows he needs to improve.


I do hope that this is what it was...the man should be thoroughly ashamed of his recent performances....a few afternoons volunteering to practice his ball skills instead of stuck in front of his playstation or in the pub or whatever he does, would be abetter sign of a good attitude more than a few mumbles at himself....time to do some work Clarkey...the clock is ticking.

Stewarton Wolf
18-11-2005, 22:27
He was obviously mouthing off a lot of expletives
of $$$$$$$*ng $$$$$$$*r etc... Was he upset at his own shocking performance?
or the fact that he was being subbed?


Either way, it's obvious he has a confidence crisis which is also
effecting the rest of the team judging by the way they raised their
game when ndah came on.


He has got to be loaned out - for his own sake.


AND it has been mentioned that the crowd get on his back and don't
support him, well this was yet another away game when he was
attrocious, so the molineux crowd can't be blamed for the imaginary
boos that some posters claim to hear aimed at Leon.



The way he was talking to himself I expected him to be gentley removed by nice men in white coats.

$<!--
var SymRealOnLoad;
var SymReal;

Sym()
{
window.open = SymWinOpen;
if(SymReal != null)
SymReal();
}

SymOnLoad()
{
if(SymRealOnLoad != null)
SymRealOnLoad();
window.open = SymRealWinOpen;
SymReal = window.;
window. = Sym;
}

SymRealOnLoad = window.onload;
window.onload = SymOnLoad;

//-->

Sozzled Wolf
18-11-2005, 22:32
I do hope that this is what it was...the man should be thoroughly ashamed of his recent performances....a few afternoons volunteering to practice his ball skills instead of stuck in front of his playstation or in the pub or whatever he does, would be abetter sign of a good attitude more than a few mumbles at himself....time to do some work Clarkey...the clock is ticking.


It's a confidence thing with that kid IMO. I would never doubt his effort. I'm notblind to his recent form- his last few showings have been shocking to be honest, but I think if he could get one goal you'd see a different player all of a sudden.

Serge_Romano
18-11-2005, 22:38
I would tend to agree, SW. If ever you wanted to see a player
whose confidence has gone totally you'd have to look no further than
Clarke - it looked totally shot tonight and I feel a bit sorry for him
in all honesty.

SOA Wolf
18-11-2005, 22:41
I do hope that this is what it was...the man should be thoroughly ashamed of his recent performances....a few afternoons volunteering to practice his ball skills instead of stuck in front of his playstation or in the pub or whatever he does, would be abetter sign of a good attitude more than a few mumbles at himself....time to do some work Clarkey...the clock is ticking.


It's a confidence thing with that kid IMO. I would never doubt his effort. I'm notblind to his recent form- his last few showings have been shocking to be honest, but I think if he could get one goal you'd see a different player all of a sudden.





Honestly SW, I have been willing him to score for some time now, I have said in posts before that I want him to do well, but frankly it has been the lack of effort that has been so disgraceful...the way he does not bother to chase things...unlike Vio, for example...that's something that is unacceptable in a player...far more than lack of skill.

Sozzled Wolf
18-11-2005, 22:42
Me too, Serge. Shame to see a home-grown player, still very young, struggling with the demands. He's got a tank on his shoulders at the moment, and I'd hate to be in his position.

Wolfman jack
18-11-2005, 22:42
Sorry - for my money , he just doesn't have it for this level, let alone higher. He doesn't even look up for it any more.


Hopefully, we can get George ndah, KM and CCort back to full, and lasting, fitness so that Clarke doesnt have to be first choice any more.

Sozzled Wolf
18-11-2005, 22:44
Honestly SW, I have been willing him to score for some time now, I have said in posts before that I want him to do well, but frankly it has been the lack of effort that has been so disgraceful...the way he does not bother to chase things...unlike Vio, for example...that's something that is unacceptable in a player...far more than lack of skill.


He looks lost if you ask me. Just doesn't know where to run. Wants to do it, but looks like roadkill-to-be caught in the headlights.

Wolfman jack
18-11-2005, 22:44
P.S.


If you could have chosen three players to score tonight, those three would have led the way. Brilliant. You couldn't write it.

Space Wolf
18-11-2005, 22:44
He had a good chance to break clear when Kennedy played a terrific ball
over the top. Unfortunately for Leon he lost the flight of it and it
ended up hitting him on the back. Just doesn't seem to be going his way
at the moment. I hope things change for him.

Rocky_Balllboa
18-11-2005, 22:45
I hate to have a go at young players but Clarke for me is not good enough and I just cannot see him making the grade at this level, he was shocking tonight.

SOA Wolf
18-11-2005, 22:48
Me too, Serge. Shame to see a home-grown player, still very young, struggling with the demands. He's got a tank on his shoulders at the moment, and I'd hate to be in his position.


...and what's it filled with and does it have a tube leading straight to his mouth?smileys/smiley2.gif

Sozzled Wolf
18-11-2005, 22:54
...and what's it filled with and does it have a tube leading straight to his mouth?smileys/smiley2.gif





smileys/smiley36.gif Sadly it doesn't look like confidence or effectiveness juice!Edited by: Sozzled Wolf

Bilbrook_Wolves
18-11-2005, 22:54
Hes clearley not good enough for this level, its like asking a baby to speak french!

Sozzled Wolf
18-11-2005, 22:59
The jury's still out IMO. He had very good patches last year, and everyone was buzzing about his potential. Fact is, if he's had a few bad games, the only reason we recognise them to be bad games is because he's had much better ones before that time. He can play better than what we've seen of late.


Additionally,he's a local lad. Let's get behind him and at least give him the chance to achieve his potential. And if his potential is not good enough for us, then we can let him go.

BlahBlah
18-11-2005, 23:15
Shame to see a home-grown player, still very young, struggling with the demands.



That's every striker we've produced in the last 25 years except for Keane, and even he was 'rested' for an FA Cup Semi Final.



Let's just face facts....Clarke's a good kid but he doesn't look like
making it into the big time. He's trying to do his job as best he can,
but it's not of the required standard. Not his fault.

johnybig32
18-11-2005, 23:19
he was good enough at spells last year when going off the bench, and starting.


like all young talents, we hope them to do well, and he did. its so onvious its a confidence thing at the moment, and i dont htink its helping him not playing in a consistent position, like many of our other players...its unsettling being asked to do different things all the time.

dazmanwolf
18-11-2005, 23:24
I agree that Clarke should be sent out on loan as soon as we have some striker cover.


His confidence is shot, and tonights team performance after he was subbed will only play on his mind.


He is currently playing a division above his ability at the moment. Let him go away, score a load of goals in the depths of the league and come back raring to go!

Balti Pie
18-11-2005, 23:32
He showed potential last year and looked a half decent player. He's out
of sorts this year and looks to have a bit of a confidence crisis going
on. Ship him out on loan, if he gets himself a couple of goals, we
might have a different player on our hands......oh and I'd say he was
mouthing off at his own performance.

Sozzled Wolf
18-11-2005, 23:34
So it seems pretty conclusive then that it's confidence thing and he needs a loan move. Jez - please pop this action into tomorrow's schedule.

johnybig32
18-11-2005, 23:43
i dont think the answer is necessarily to run away from your problems..

whitemouse75
18-11-2005, 23:56
i dont think the answer is necessarily to run away from your problems..


well the answer definately isnt to start him on tuesday

johnybig32
18-11-2005, 23:57
i didnt say it was...

Kenny-11
19-11-2005, 00:17
i dont think the answer is necessarily to run away from your problems..


well the answer definately isnt to start him on tuesday





smileys/smiley32.gifWell said that man smileys/smiley32.gif


Clarke was god awful this evening.

Professional
19-11-2005, 00:26
Respect him for being so upset for his performance, but he is utter rubbish.

markb
19-11-2005, 00:48
Clarke is a donkey, sell him &amp; get rid.


By the way, I wasn't at tonight's game, so watched it on telly but I think Derby were as cr4p as Norwich. Don't get too exited by a Wolves victory over a team 19th in the division. I didn't see anything tonight that makes me feel hopeful. We let them in to many times at the back, failed to rule the midfield and were woeful upfront. A decent team would have bagged 6 or 7 against such a s!$*e Derby tonight.

Professional
19-11-2005, 00:51
Clarke is a donkey, sell him &amp; get rid.


By the way, I wasn't at tonight's game, so watched it on telly but I think Derby were as cr4p as Norwich. Don't get too exited by a Wolves victory over a team 19th in the division. I didn't see anything tonight that makes me feel hopeful. We let them in to many times at the back, failed to rule the midfield and were woeful upfront. A decent team would have bagged 6 or 7 against such a s!$*e Derby tonight.





Merry Christmas.

johnybig32
19-11-2005, 00:53
we let them in too many times?? where was 1 ocassion i think they broke through. everything else was from corners.


i dont believe you are moaning...we scored 3 away from hope against playoff contenders...Edited by: johnybig32

loopy lupine
19-11-2005, 00:56
Clarke is a donkey, sell him &amp; get rid.


By the way, I wasn't at tonight's game, so watched it on telly but I
think Derby were as cr4p as Norwich. Don't get too exited by a Wolves
victory over a team 19th in the division. I didn't see anything tonight
that makes me feel hopeful. We let them in to many times at the back,
failed to rule the midfield and were woeful upfront. A decent team
would have bagged 6 or 7 against such a s!$*e Derby tonight.




Or - a deccent team would have kept a clean sheet and scored 3 goals with their 2 main strikers out injured..... smileys/smiley11.gif

$<!--
var SymRealOnLoad;
var SymReal;

Sym()
{
window.open = SymWinOpen;
if(SymReal != null)
SymReal();
}

SymOnLoad()
{
if(SymRealOnLoad != null)
SymRealOnLoad();
window.open = SymRealWinOpen;
SymReal = window.;
window. = Sym;
}

SymRealOnLoad = window.onload;
window.onload = SymOnLoad;

//-->

Kris Kringle
19-11-2005, 01:07
He was flat footed on a number of occasions tonight... At the moment though, he's one of 3 fit strikers we have unless Miller gets himself fit so he should start on Tuesday.. Ndah isn't fit enough to start from the beginning.. better coming off the bench..

wolfie smith
19-11-2005, 09:24
Hes clearley not good enough for this level, its like asking a baby to speak french!





no problem for french babies is itsmileys/smiley2.gif


i think the management should be explaining more to clarke, where to run what to chase when to shoot etc, after training if needbe. he's got the weight of our expectations on him and if he was showing upset at not performing maybe he is willing to train harder, and learn from others. who's to say he would score goals on loan anywhere, if he hasnt got it, he wont

whitemouse75
19-11-2005, 10:11
he must have it somewhere, his record in the reserves showed that.

SOA Wolf
19-11-2005, 11:34
he must have it somewhere, his record in the reserves showed that.


Agreed and he did look good before Hoddle arrived....maybe evidence about how p!$* poor a coach Hoddle is...if he WAS so great then surely a player could not have deteriorated so badly.


I've said it before, get specialist coaches in for the departments....Bully is sitting there....waiting...look at the difference McCoist has made with Scotland and Miller.

whitemouse75
19-11-2005, 11:38
couldnt we send clarke to scotland then?

SOA Wolf
19-11-2005, 11:44
couldnt we send clarke to scotland then?


If he keeps up jis ranting and raving he might get sent to Coventry.

whitemouse75
19-11-2005, 11:50
i was booing the tv as he walked off gurning and mumbling.

Essex Wolf
19-11-2005, 19:39
To me Clarke looked upset as well as disappointed with his performance. Didn't seem to be criticising the decision to sub him at all.

SOUTHBANK_BULLY
19-11-2005, 22:52
leon clarke will never make it at this club never rated him and will go far as to say proudlock is a better player than leon clarke... clarke hasnt got a footballing brain and is so dopey in front of goal.. ship him out on loan or give him a freebie the guys a muppet

28th March 1965
19-11-2005, 22:55
dopey in front of goal..


Mmmmmmm

Professional
19-11-2005, 22:56
dopey in front of goal..


Mmmmmmm





Nnnnnnnnnn

wolf of sedgley
19-11-2005, 23:41
dopey in front of goal..


Mmmmmmm





Nnnnnnnnnn



Oooooooooo

Shergar
20-11-2005, 11:40
Over the weekend, been talking to a couple of people in the game. One who was connected to the Academy said there was always nailed on that Clarke would make it into the pro game, the frustrating thing was they didn't know which Leon was going to turn up from one day to the next, either the moody sulky yawning couldn't be arsed hormonal teenager or the eager run all day want to learn model apprentice, he was very up and down. Add this to the fact thatearlier thisyear after a function at the Molineux one of the ex-club fitness coaches walked into O'Neill's to see Leon slurping on bottles of bud, when the coach told him he didn't think it was the correct behaviour for an upcoming pro to be seen p!$*ed up in the early hours of a Friday morning..he was told to **** off and mind his own business by Clarke's so-called 'mates'


Hopefully, the club has someone/procedures in place to help their young pros deal with life in the spotlight and are able to offer them advice and guidance and get strict with them because regardless of what they think, these kids (at their age and with what they have to deal with) do not know better. Clarkeneeds career and life advice and to make the painful decision that mates are notalways 'yer mates' otherwise it the same path as Mr Newport - Proudlock.

Essex Wolf
20-11-2005, 12:55
That's not good reading Shergar as the lad seems to have an attitude problem as well as hanging about with folk who aren't exactly helping him in his career.


It makes sense now though having read what you've posted as to why the lad looked good in some games last season yet looked so poor on Friday.Certainly sounds as if he needs to get his act together.

Jim Bowen
20-11-2005, 13:11
Lose 2-stone, work in the gym on his strength, a long run out on loan or in the reserves and we may see the hard working striker we saw last season. His attitude is a disgrace though at the moment - yes he's low on confidence but he should still be working hard, we may aswell be playing with 10 men.


Your Ad Here