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fenella
24-10-2005, 16:24
by my reckoning, unless I've missing someone, the midfielders have scored as follows:


2001/2002


Alex Rae (31 games,7 goals), Cameron (38 games ,5 goals), Kennedy (35,5), Newton (45,8), Robinson (15,2), Ndah (1,1), Sinton (3,1)


Total for the season: (46 games, 29 goals)


2002/2003


Rae (30 games,3 goals) Cameron (29,7) Cooper (13,3) Ince (35,2), Ingimarsson (10,2) Kennedy (30,3), Ndah (17,7), Newton (29,3)


Total for the season:(46 games, 30 goals)


2005/2006


Anderton (6,0), Cameron (7,0), Kennedy (14,0) Olofinjana (5,0), Rickets (10,0) Seol (12,1)


Total for the season:(15 games, 1 goal)


Is this a problem?


PS Who was our highest scoring midfielder last season (clue: he scored on Saturday)?

Essex Wolf
24-10-2005, 16:25
Our midfield is too powder puff just now. Lots of talent, tricks and fancy stuff but no grit and until we have a ball winner I feel it unlikely the midfields strike rate will improve much.

Deutsch Wolf
24-10-2005, 16:26
Cooper last season with six, I think.


The problem is both with system and personnel - the midfield don't seem to know what they're doing, especially since Ricketts got crocked. I couldn't tell you who's supposed to be playing a defensive role or who's playing an attacking role.


Cameron, so useful in this area in the past, can no longer get forward from deep. Kennedy & Anderton both play too deep. Olofinjana is scared to shoot.


Bring in Steve Sidwell and/or Kevin Nicholls in January and we'll see big changes.

Bully Bully
24-10-2005, 16:27
PS Who was our highest scoring midfielder last season (clue: he scored on Saturday)?











A Mr K Cooper by any chance? smileys/smiley9.gif

Friar Wolf
24-10-2005, 16:27
by my reckoning, unless I've missing someone, the midfielders have scored as follows:


PS Who was our highest scoring midfielder last season (clue: he scored on Saturday)?








Wouldn't be Desert Wolf by any chance?

basher
24-10-2005, 16:41
It's been debated well enough but the midfield is the real problem and the lack of goals from it!!!


The midfield desparately needs to contribute with much needed goals as if the forwards don't score then nobody will at the moment.

Oldgold Wolfcub
24-10-2005, 18:10
Bring in Steve Sidwell and/or Kevin Nicholls in January and we'll see big changes.

Yes they both wil lose form.smileys/smiley19.gif

dazmanwolf
24-10-2005, 18:23
Cooper was our midfield scorer for the last few seasons.


I am sure Cameron did better than the stats show!

Bilbrook_Wolves
24-10-2005, 18:48
or Michael Brown, the season we beat them in the play off final didnt he score over 10 goals that season!

Professional
24-10-2005, 19:54
What midfield are we referring to? Not familiar with that word.

Slip On Shoes
24-10-2005, 20:44
It's been debated well enough but the midfield is the real problem and the lack of goals from it!!!


The midfield desparately needs to contribute with much needed goals as if the forwards don't score then nobody will at the moment.





I disagree, it is an area for concern but the defence and the amount of sloppy goals we are giving away is more of a concern. I dont know how many clean sheets we have had this season but it isn't many and the goals we concede are so sloppy. THe two home games this week we conceded a goals from a corner about 3 yards out and a goal within a minute of the restart. It is possible to win games 1-0 you know.

dazmanwolf
24-10-2005, 21:54
What midfield are we referring to? Not familiar with that word.


smileys/smiley36.gifSo true!

Wombourne Wolf
24-10-2005, 21:56
Losing Ricketts has been a big blow, without him on the pitch their is no link between attack and Midfield.

The Bear
24-10-2005, 21:59
Agreed Wombourne. We're currently relying on Seol to produce the goods, which isn't enough at the minute.

Stewarton Wolf
24-10-2005, 23:35
The defence seems to be performing above the average for the
division. The problem with three in midfield is they are
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whitemouse75
24-10-2005, 23:40
It's been debated well enough but the midfield is the real problem and the lack of goals from it!!!


The midfield desparately needs to contribute with much needed goals as if the forwards don't score then nobody will at the moment.





I disagree, it is an area for concern but the defence and the amount of sloppy goals we are giving away is more of a concern. I dont know how many clean sheets we have had this season but it isn't many and the goals we concede are so sloppy. THe two home games this week we conceded a goals from a corner about 3 yards out and a goal within a minute of the restart. It is possible to win games 1-0 you know.








no way. letting in one goal a game would be fine if we scored the four in each half we could do if we werent shot shy and lacking strikers in a striking position

Stewarton Wolf
24-10-2005, 23:43
It's been debated well enough but the midfield is the real problem and the lack of goals from it!!!


The midfield desparately needs to contribute with much needed goals
as if the forwards don't score then nobody will at the moment.





I disagree, it is an area for concern but the defence and the amount
of sloppy goals we are giving away is more of a concern. I dont
know how many clean sheets we have had this season but it isn't many
and the goals we concede are so sloppy. THe two home games this
week we conceded a goals from a corner about 3 yards out and a goal
within a minute of the restart. It is possible to win games 1-0
you know.








no way. letting in one goal a game would be fine if we scored the
four in each half we could do if we werent shot shy and lacking
strikers in a striking position



Spot on, Cort has been let down by his two strike partners so
far. The system does work its just we squander chances like an
under 7's side.

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Molineuxmessiah
25-10-2005, 05:48
The midfield is the major problem, no doubt about that. No bite. energy, movement, nothing. Who couldn;t play in the Wolves midfield at the moment.


Pass it sideways, pass it backwards, that is all they do.


Why didn't Hoddle see this earlier thow? If he's this superior figure that a lot of people, why didn't he realise this before?

Stan Cutlass
25-10-2005, 08:28
2005/2006


Anderton (6,0), Cameron (7,0), Kennedy (14,0) Olofinjana (5,0), Rickets (10,0) Seol (12,1)


Total for the season:(15 games, 1 goal)





I think you're being generous with that statement Fen - I think Seol is a forward, who plays in a front three.


Seeing 3 pre-season games, one of the highlights was our long-range shooting. The ratio testing the keeper, on just on target was extremely high. Seems they've gone from hero to zero on that front.

basher
25-10-2005, 08:32
Slip On Shoes


Sorry but the problem is our lack of goals from midfield, it really is that simple.


Yes we have let in sloppy goals, but at home we should be capable of scoring more than 1 goal a game!!!


If defence is the problem, as you say, and we shore it up then we are still left with the problem of not scoring enough goals to win games and finish teams off. Edited by: basher

Bill McCai
25-10-2005, 08:44
Re our dodgy defence – do our midfield ( without Ince ) offer the defence enough protection?
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Another point, if we WERE to play 4-4-2 as many have campaigned for, which two of our midfielders ( bearing in mind Ince is out ) would you play as the central two? Despite all our supposed riches we are hopelessly lightweight where ( arguably ) it matters most….

basher
25-10-2005, 08:53
Out of what we've got available at present, injuries excluded, probably go for Kennedy &amp; Davies in the middle. Ricketts wide right and Seol on the left.

Del Woppio
25-10-2005, 08:54
silas, anyone?

Stan Cutlass
25-10-2005, 09:18
silas, anyone?


The albino monkfrom DaVinci Code?

Del Woppio
25-10-2005, 09:23
silas, anyone?


The albino monkfrom DaVinci Code?





i was thinking more the creative and goalscoring midfielder that we signed for over a million pounds, and then played for 7 minutes.


besides, the other Silas is dead.

Exile Wolf
25-10-2005, 09:59
Can somebody good with computers hack into Glenns Pro Zone and fix the bug which makes our midfield look good.


I can't remember when we had a midfield this bad. I mean lack of shots on traget or any shots. No driving runs, a midfielder in front of the attackers and I don't mean on the wing in front. On Sat both Anderton (45mins only per game) and Kennedy took it in turns to pick the ball up deep. Then one watched as the other strolled by him. Surely we don't need both central midfielders that deep

Paris Wolf
25-10-2005, 11:05
Usual back four plus Oakes on Saturday, then:


- - - - - Kennedy - - - - - - - - Huddlestone


- - - - -- - - - - -- - -Anderton


Ricketts - - -- - - - -- Miller - - -- - -- -- -Seol


(or will he play Miller wide, Clarke up front? http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/smileys/smiley11.gif)

Deutsch Wolf
25-10-2005, 11:05
(or will he play Miller wide, Clarke up front? http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/smileys/smiley11.gif)





Shut up.............smileys/smiley2.gif

Paris Wolf
25-10-2005, 11:39
Sorry, I forgot that they all read this... smileys/smiley2.gif


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