The Blame Game

[Bill McCai]

This season is arguably the most important season in Wolves recent history. If we don’t achieve our goal of promotion we will lose the advantages ( parachute money, strong squad on high wages ) we have enjoyed for the last two seasons. There is every chance we could become ( are we already? ) a Preston/Watford/Stoke bobbling with no real chance of challenging for the Premiership. Of course, as Swain mentioned the other day, this could be a blessing in disguise. Regardless of that, who do you think should take the blame should this season peter out into yet another wasted year? <?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

[RAY STUBBS]

This
season is arguably the most important season in Wolves recent history.
If we don’t achieve our goal of promotion we will lose the advantages (
parachute money, strong squad on high wages ) we have enjoyed for the
last two seasons. There is every chance we could become ( are we
already? ) a Preston/Watford/Stoke bobbling with no real chance of
challenging for the Premiership. Of course, as Swain mentioned the
other day, this could be a blessing in disguise. Regardless of that,
who do you think should take the blame should this season peter out
into yet another wasted year? </font></font></font></span>



ALL OF THE ABOVE

IN OTHER WORDS UNPROFFESIONAL SHODDYNESS FROM A PROFIT MAKING BUSINESS.

Edited by: RAY STUBBS

[Visage Wolf]

All of the above, + the fans.

[Black Suit]

God I feel depressed now.

[Florida Wolfey]

Sorry to say as much as I am grateful for all SJH has provided, he ultimately has to take the blame for our failure to achieve/maintain a place in the Premiership.


The current Board structure concerns me greatly and until we have more viewpoints (preferably football related) then the status quo will remain.


We have arguably the best coach we have had in the last 30 years yet are still unable to field a team that is capableof playing 90 mins at sustained pressure.


For so many years it has been blatently obvious we need to do what Tottenham have done this year. Recruit the best young talent, develop them and turn them into winners. Instead we have recruited "journeymen" footballers as manager after manager goes for instant promotion. This is a result of a) Boardroom policy and b) fan pressure.


Hopefully, under Hoddle we are now in a period where the Board will stand by and let him develop the club his way. If we stand by him, he will succeed. If we don't, then the same cycle will repeat itself. Hoddle needs at least 3 years to develop the team but will the fans allow it whilst we have a soft underbelly?

[Del Woppio]

This season is arguably the most important season in Wolves recent history. If we don’t achieve our goal of promotion we will lose the advantages ( parachute money, strong squad on high wages ) we have enjoyed for the last two seasons. There is every chance we could become ( are we already? ) a Preston/Watford/Stoke bobbling with no real chance of challenging for the Premiership. Of course, as Swain mentioned the other day, this could be a blessing in disguise. Regardless of that, who do you think should take the blame should this season peter out into yet another wasted year? <O:P></O:P>




ALL OF THE ABOVE
IN OTHER WORDS UNPROFFESIONAL SHODDYNESS FROM A PROFIT MAKING BUSINESS.



i love the way RAYmakes it sound like being a profit making business is a bad thing.

[IMAB]

Instead we have recruited "journeymen" footballers as manager after manager goes for instant promotion. This is a result of a) Boardroom policy and b) fan pressure.





Jo Lescott and the club told as all through the local press we were going to win the league, not spend 3 seasons building a younger side to go up and stay up. If they had I wouldn't be p!$*ed off with them.

[Florida Wolfey]

Instead we have recruited "journeymen" footballers as manager after manager goes for instant promotion. This is a result of a) Boardroom policy and b) fan pressure.





Jo Lescott and the club told as all through the local press we were going to win the league, not spend 3 seasons building a younger side to go up and stay up. If they had I wouldn't be p!$*ed off with them.





I didn't read or hear this and if they built up fan expectations this way then they are bloody fools. If true, it smacks of arrogance.

[fenella]

For so many years it has been blatently obvious we need to do what Tottenham have done this year. Recruit the best young talent, develop them and turn them into winners.





Or maybe we should do what Tottenham did in September 2003 after Hoddle spent 11 million on 3 of the "best young talent".

[Florida Wolfey]

For so many years it has been blatently obvious we need to do what Tottenham have done this year. Recruit the best young talent, develop them and turn them into winners.





Or maybe we should do what Tottenham did in September 2003 after Hoddle spent 11 million on 3 of the "best young talent".








But he then has to be given the opportunity to develop them. smileys/smiley2.gif

[Bill McCai]

No votes for Moxey yet then?<?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

[Deutsch Wolf]

I'd blame the playing squad for the results against the likes of Southampton, Millwall and Burnley, for wasting countless chances.


I'd blame Hoddle for the last three games and a growing stubbornness in refusing to chance tactics.


I'd blame a section of fans for persisting with a "wimabigclub" attitude which we really should have grown out of 10 years ago.

[Florida Wolfey]

I'd blame a section of fans for persisting with a "wimabigclub" attitude which we really should have grown out of 10 years ago.





How about 20 years ago?

[basher]

Should never have sacked Stan Cullis!!!!!

[Bilbrook_Wolves]

The Players - The have more passion playing with themselves than they do for Wolves!

[basher]

The Players - The have more passion playing with themselves than they do for Wolves!


That's no mean feat in Michal Oakes case!!!!!

[Japan Wulf]

All of the above, + the fans.


Not sure about the fans butas for the restthe present situationallows for plenty of finger pointing, however ill informed.


On occasion we havespent too much and at other times far to little. At present we don't really have a strong enough squad for the job at hand and the players we have are not all performing as well as they could.


No one would seem to be entirely blameless as far as I can see.

[IMAB]

I didn't read or hear this and if they built up fan expectations this way then they are bloody fools. If true, it smacks of arrogance.


Oh unfortunately very true. Automatic isn't good enough we wan't to win the title said Jo in a pre season interview in the E and S, and the club put out other similiar statements when it had season tickets to sell. They set the standard and they have failed to meet it.

[scottishwolf II]

imab - would you honestly prefer they said in pre-season, "well we hope
we might be able to squeak the play-offs, but its a really tought
league so god knows"?

[SFS II]

There's culpability at every level due to enormous levels of incompetence at every level.

[Essex Wolf]

No one individual should be blamed as the club as such is a collective but those who own/run it, IE SJH and his board need to improve things for me.Things start at the top in my book.

[IMAB]

imab - would you honestly prefer they said in pre-season, "well we hope we might be able to squeak the play-offs, but its a really tought league so god knows"?


Yes. I would have been amazed if that was what they felt was achievable with the wage bill and called for the sacking of Jez Moxey for authorising paying out such high wages for a team they hold in such low regard, but I'd have appreciated the honesty.

[Florida Wolfey]

I didn't read or hear this and if they built up fan expectations this way then they are bloody fools. If true, it smacks of arrogance.


Oh unfortunately very true. Automatic isn't good enough we wan't to win the title said Jo in a pre season interview in the E and S, and the club put out other similiar statements when it had season tickets to sell. They set the standard and they have failed to meet it.





"We want to win the title" isn't the same as "We are going to win the title". I don't see anything wrong with Jo saying what he said if it was "want".

[teacwolf]

I'd blame a section of fans for persisting with a "wimabigclub" attitude which we really should have grown out of 10 years ago.





I got my Wimabigclub attitude directly from Rick Hayward.

[Jack Bauer]

I'd blame a section of fans for persisting with a "wimabigclub" attitude which we really should have grown out of 10 years ago.





I got my Wimabigclub attitude directly from Rick Hayward.





No, I think he said 'One is a large club somewhat'.

[G-Wulf]

There's culpability at every level due to enormous levels of incompetence at every level.


Spot on SFS. smileys/smiley32.gif

[SFS II]

Where else in the world could you take:



1 A passionate billionaire fan from childhood owner.

2 £50 million investment on a new stadium.

3 Countless million £ international player purchases from all over the world.

4 2 ex England managers and at least one then known as the best managerial prospect in the country.

5 A dedicated following of 20,000+ week in week out.



And over 20 years, use all these resources to achieve, with minor peaks
of the bottom of the top division and troughs of 5th from bottom of the
Championship what anounts to nothing more than grand total 2 places
from 9th to 11th in what was, and still is the English 2nd Division?



At this rate of progress I'll be 220 by the time we manage assured
Premiership midtable mediocrity. Something to look forward to, then.


Edited by: SFS II

[Florida Wolfey]

We need to get rid of the JV's smileys/smiley2.gif


It's the curse of Peter Knowles and his yearly pilgrimage to Mol. to plague us. Edited by: Florida Wolfey

[EasternWolf]

Blame is a very negative thing. I moan on here about booing and those fans who criticise particular players whether they play well or not, but i do share the same disappointment week in week out.


I also find it very difficult to believe that countless hordes of seemingly adequate players who train hard all week can stroll out on a saturday and play with no passion. I applaud players like Ince and Ganea who give it everything they have and i despair because many of the others dont do it. But Wolves are my club.


I am firmly of the opinion that the future is with the youngsters, Davies, Cornes, Ricketts, Keith Lowe maybe, all the others that people mention on here


Perhaps the club needs to adopt a policy of not saying we will make it this year but to come out and declare we will now build ateam for the future and we will give it three years or however many it takes.

[Professional]

Hoddle's fault pure and simple.


It's also Moxey's fault as well.


The pitch- don't forget the pitch.


And our old blue away kit- that was $$$$$e.


Rachel Heyhoe-Flint- she buggered us up for many a seasonsmileys/smiley7.gif

[Guests]

Perhaps the club needs to adopt a policy of not
saying we will make it this year but to come out and declare we will
now build ateam for the future and we will give it three years or
however many it takes.



That would seriously effect season ticket sales, so it won't happen.



Certainly not while the Haywards are in control and Moxey's at the club.



No, we will carry on as we have been. Sign a name or two on 12 months
deals to get the punters moist, watch the money come in and worry about
next year, well, next year....

[Professional]

Sad but true...

[Molineuxmessiah]

Hoddle is 100% to blame. He chose not to spend, he believed the squad was good enough, he picks the team, he decides the tactics and formation and he gets paid a hell of a lot to f8ck every single one up.

[Bill McCai]

<DIV>Hoddle is 100% to blame. He chose not to spend, he believed the squad was good enough, he picks the team, he decides the tactics and formation and he gets paid a hell of a lot to f8ck every single one up. </DIV>
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And was hired by Wolves, who are owned by the Haywards.</DIV>

[Del Woppio]

who made lots of money in England, who were once ruled by Henry VIII