well done jez

[wolverine mick]

http://www.expressandstar.com/2008/06/27/we-nearly-lost-stearman-moxey/

hats off to moxey, shows others how to conduct their business without naming names (are you reading Barnsley & Peterborough)

[Del Woppio]

Exellent business and PR from our super CEO.

[haden-wolf]

would be interesting to know who the other side was?

One of the relegated 3 or QPR is my guess

[SsgWolf]

Exellent business and PR from our super CEO.

agreed. it also seems leicester need some credit in this?

[yammer]

Not sure what good bragging about this kind of thing is going to do to be honest?

[Del Woppio]

Very true. It goes against my thoughts on Mandaric, to be honest - but perhaps his friendship with SJH has helped here.

[Del Woppio]

Not sure what good bragging about this kind of thing is going to do to be honest?

It sends out the message that playing for Wolves is a more attractive proposition than elsewhere for extra money, and also that we won't be held to ransom.

[Paul76]

Indeed, Jez is doing a grand job.

[V Wolf]

From what I read in the article the potential wage etc... for the player is not mentioned. It says there was a higher transfer fee put on the table, not that he was going to be offered higher wages? Most of the people who have posted on the E&S comments seem to have taken the quote out of context in order to have another pop at the club!

[Del Woppio]

From what I read in the article the potential wage etc... for the player is not mentioned. It says there was a higher transfer fee put on the table,

"they were offering more money to the player and club."

not that he was going to be offered higher wages? Most of the people who have posted on the E&S comments seem to have taken the quote out of context in order to have another pop at the club!

Hardly a shock re. the E&S comments, is it!

[jabbawolf]

Some people will look at any story to find an angle to attack the club - love to criticise other people's decisions, always know how to run the world, rarely run anything more than their bath of an evening.

[EasternWolf]

if that

[Wednesbury Wolf]

Yes

[GoldenHorseshoe]

:rolleyes:I suggest reading the "Gazzumped by Barnsley" thread before posting on this one. You will then avoid appearing to be hypocritical.:rolleyes:

[Del Woppio]

:rolleyes:I suggest reading the "Gazzumped by Barnsley" thread before posting on this one. You will then avoid appearing to be hypocritical.:rolleyes:


There's a world of difference between "Wolves were interested" and "another club offered more money to both player and club". 'Were interested' could mean we sent a scout to see him in March.

[Mr Wolf]

It just shows the sort a players were attracting to the club now. Players with the right attitude and comitment for once.

I think the response from Jez might of been a little pop at Barnsley also.

[GoldenHorseshoe]

There's a world of difference between "Wolves were interested" and "another club offered more money to both player and club". 'Were interested' could mean we sent a scout to see him in March.

What I was on about, is that some were saying how professional our dealings were by keeping quiet, and criticising the Barnsley manager for mouthing off.
My personal opinion is that Jez should refrain from blowing his own trumpet. As an old apprentice trainer of mine once told me "Self praise is no recommendation".

[Del Woppio]

Ah, I misunderstood. Apologies.

I don't think there is anything wrong with either Moxey's or Davey's comments, to be honest. Creating a positive image for your club is an important part of the game these days.

[GoldenHorseshoe]

I think the key thing for the moment is to get some good players in (which we appear to be doing) and maintain a professional image for the club (which in the main we seem to be doing).
I have a mostly positive image of Jez in his business approach, not hearing about targets until they're signed does not bother me. So far so good this summer.:)

[Big Mack]

As an old apprentice trainer of mine once told me "Self praise is no recommendation".

SurAlan Sugar?

[Essex Wolf]

Yet again the clubs often much maligned CEO does a good deal.

[SaleWolf]

You can't fault Moxey for his business skills. Just a shame he know $$$$ all about the game!

[Essex Wolf]

You can't fault Moxey for his business skills. Just a shame he know $$$$ all about the game!

He has said and/or done things in the past that have angered the fans but like him or not his primary function is to make/save the club money and he seems to have done a good job so far.

[Del Woppio]

You can't fault Moxey for his business skills. Just a shame he know $$$$ all about the game!

2 points.

1) - He knows a lot more about football than people give him credit for.
2) - It wouldn't make a blind bit of difference in his capability to be a CEO if he didn't.

[SaleWolf]

2 points.

1) - He knows a lot more about football than people give him credit for.

You know this how?

2) - It wouldn't make a blind bit of difference in his capability to be a CEO if he didn't.

Would you still have been saying that had Hoddle changed his mind and stayed on at the club like Jez wanted him to?

[GoldenHorseshoe]

SurAlan Sugar?

He wasn't one of my trainers, he came second to me in the same class;)

[Grizzled Wolf]

If I was still running an organisation, I would be quite happy to hire Moxey as CEO at twice his present salary.

[mr_j_007]

from the outside looking in i like the way jez conducts himself and how he handles things. he has got somethings wrong in the past but then don't we all its just as a CEO there abit more obvious, he takes the hassel really well.

from people i know who have worked with jez he is rated very positively they only had good things to say about him. i know other clubs like dealing with him and that we have set up numerous good relations with other clubs since he has been at the helm which help us in our pursuit of players and also off the field ventures and general business growth and development.

[haden-wolf]

It's nice to see some positive moves and Evil Jez seems to have gone back into the mirror (like the fit kick $$$$ blonde in heroes).

What is noticeable is that (with two or three obvious exceptions) their seems to be far more good will towards the club from the fans at the moment.

It may be Morgan
It may be what most fans consider to be the right type of signings
It might even be that the PR seems to be better than it was a yewar or two back

but there is definately a good 'vibe' about the club at the moment

The tricky bit will be to keep it going for the season

Still nice work Pie man

[BB Wolf]

I was talking to a Policeman yesterday who is responsible for the Police negotiations with the club
He is a Wolves fan himself and said that in his opinion Jez , quite rightly , plays real hard ball with the police about their policing arrangements
I think the police bill runs into the 100's of 1000's of pounds and Jez makes sure we get value for money and is not afraid to challenge the force
If the police had their way there would be a complete alcohol ban at the ground Jez ( admittedly for commercial reasons) has fought against this and my contact said that he really rated Jez's abilities as our CEO
I have never understood the negative publicity surrounding Moxey IMO he is one of the most astute and successful CEO's of any club in the whole of the country

[Essex Wolf]

Moxey is an easy target BBW. If a player signs and is rubbish it's Moxey's fault for the deal going through, if he signs and is great or a player leaves and Wolves get a good price Moxey has only done what he is being well paid to do.

[wolvesman]

Would you still have been saying that had Hoddle changed his mind and stayed on at the club like Jez wanted him to?

I don't think Jez or many at the club were too bothered about keeping Hoddle. It was the poor timing of his departure that gave the initial problem.

[wolvesman]

Moxey is an easy target BBW. If a player signs and is rubbish it's Moxey's fault for the deal going through, if he signs and is great or a player leaves and Wolves get a good price Moxey has only done what he is being well paid to do.

With J Moxey's high reputation in football management circles, we should be worried about him leaving for a prem side before we get there.
Big bucks available with head hunters.

[A wanderer from Bristol]

Moxey's had a lot of stick and sometimes rightfully so.

But I also reckon credit where credits' due. And I think he's entitled to blow smoke up his own ass on this occasion.

[Reach For The Sky]

With J Moxey's high reputation in football management circles, we should be worried about him leaving for a prem side before we get there.

:D

I have my suspicions that you weren't joking, so I can allay some of your darkest fears.

Jez is already earning more than most Premier League CEOs, the Premier League clubs whose CEOs are paid more wouldn't want him.

Jez wouldn't want to go anywhere else, he has friends on the board at Wolves.

I'm sure I remember one of the Wolves Parliament members asking him if it was true he tried to get Hoddle to stay, he said it was and that he hoped Hoddle would sort out the mess the club was in.:o

It must be really hard work to get the company owned by a big Wolves fan and board member to be the club's main sponsor, especially when the club accept "payment in kind".

[Kenny-11]

I'm sure I remember one of the Wolves Parliament members asking him if it was true he tried to get Hoddle to stay, he said it was and that he hoped Hoddle would sort out the mess the club was in.:o



Right, this might be my drink memory.

I think the question was why wasn't Hoddle got rid of in May and Jez said he wanted Hoddle to sort out the mess and that Hoddle was up for the challenge.

The famous meeting 2 days after he walked out on us, was to see if he was walking straight into another job and not just quitting because he is a grade A $$$$

[Del Woppio]

:D

I have my suspicions that you weren't joking, so I can allay some of your darkest fears.

Jez is already earning more than most Premier League CEOs, the Premier League clubs whose CEOs are paid more wouldn't want him.

Speculative at best. I would be willing to retract should you have anything to support this. However, repeating it often enough on a message board does not make it fact.

Jez wouldn't want to go anywhere else, he has friends on the board at Wolves.

Who hasn't, after working for the same company for so long. That's by-the-by, though - I'm quite sure that his chums at the office aren't the reason for Jez's continued employment.

I'm sure I remember one of the Wolves Parliament members asking him if it was true he tried to get Hoddle to stay, he said it was and that he hoped Hoddle would sort out the mess the club was in.:o

As has been said, the timing was shockingly bad, and that may have played a big part in trying to reverse the decision. It may, of course, been a mistake to ask Hoddle to reconsider. As that didn't happen, we can only speculate as to what the results of an extended Hoddle tenure would have been, and therefore only speculate as to the merits of Jez's decesion to ask Hoddle to reconsider. If you're happy to deal in speculation, then so beit. Or, see Kenny's post.

It must be really hard work to get the company owned by a big Wolves fan and board member to be the club's main sponsor, especially when the club accept "payment in kind"

The club may well accept consultancy services from Chaucer as a small part of the main sponsorship deal, but that also doesn't detract from the fact that in cold hard cash, it is still very lucrative. I franky don't care if a wealthy fan has effectively bought a seat on the board, because he's paid a lot of money for what is essentially a position of little influence. Morgan does as Morgan likes, board agreement or not. Of course, I'm sure you're not blinkered or stupid enough to suggest that Jez negotiates one main sponsorship deal every two years and that's that..

It's a remarkable shame that you are unable to give due credit to Mr Moxey. He may have his faults, and he may get things wrong, and he may be paid an above average salary. However, the fact that you are incapable of seeing any good in any of his actions makes everything you have to say on the matter invalid.

[SsgWolf]

If I was still running an organisation…

groan.

[Reach For The Sky]

The famous meeting 2 days after he walked out on us, was to see if he was walking straight into another job and not just quitting because he is a grade A $$$$

Hoddle said he left because the club's expectations didn't meet his own. He had a point, when someone let several key first team player's contracts expire at the same time and then sold the best of the remaining players.

Who refused a fee for Kenny Miller and allowed him to walk for nothing?

Who allowed several first team player's contracts to expire at the same time?

Who sold the club's best players?

[Dewsburywolf]

It's a remarkable shame that you are unable to give due credit to Mr Moxey. He may have his faults, and he may get things wrong, and he may be paid an above average salary. However, the fact that you are incapable of seeing any good in any of his actions makes everything you have to say on the matter invalid.


I'm sure Mr Moxey can survive the insults/negative comments from a few faceless contributors to Internet message boards.

[Reach For The Sky]

Grizzled Wolf is a top bloke

[SsgWolf]

i just thank god that hoddle has gone. if was the single worst ting to happen to this club since the bhattis.

Thanks for that jez, and yes i booed when his appointment was announced.

[Reach For The Sky]

del,

this isn't a court of law, where someone is innocent until proven guilty. It's a sad internet discussion forum and if you want to disprove what I'm saying then try producing some facts that prove me wrong. Jez's salary is included in company finance statements for WWFC 1990 Ltd (or whatever it's called now), as are the salaries of all other CEOs and MD's. Have a look and see why he jumped ship from Stoke City, but he has stayed at Wolves ever since.

[Del Woppio]

I thought he'd stayed at Wolves because of friends on the board?

So you're saying that anything written here is fact until proved otherwise? Just when I thought your stock couldn't get any lower.

[wolvesman]

Right, this might be my drink memory.

I think the question was why wasn't Hoddle got rid of in May and Jez said he wanted Hoddle to sort out the mess and that Hoddle was up for the challenge.

The famous meeting 2 days after he walked out on us, was to see if he was walking straight into another job and not just quitting because he is a grade A $$$$

Quite right, can you imagine Jez saying good ridence at a meeting.
Sounds like some on here would even support Hoddle if it means a cheap go at Moxey.:D

[Reach For The Sky]

i tried to retract but you have enshrined it


I'll edit mine and you edit yours, on one will be any the wiser tomorrow.:)

[Reach For The Sky]

Sounds like some on here would even support Hoddle if it means a cheap go at Moxey.:D

Completely wrong.

Some on here didn't want Hoddle hired in the first place, but got ignored.

Some on here wanted Hoddle out at the earliest opportunity, but got completely ignored.

Some on here wanted Hoddle fired when it finally dawned on the rest that he was not going to take Wolves anywhere, but Jez wanted to beg him to stay.

Who would have thought that going to watch Wolves would become even less entertaining?

[wolvesman]

I'll edit mine and you edit yours, on one will be any the wiser tomorrow.:)

Already printed off.
Instructions where to leave the money in a brown envelope will follow.:D

[Dewsburywolf]

Wolves ....... entertaining?

I remember those days. Hopefully they're on their way back next season. Almost getting optimistic.

[Reach For The Sky]

I thought he'd stayed at Wolves because of friends on the board?

So you're saying that anything written here is fact until proved otherwise? Just when I thought your stock couldn't get any lower.

No, I'm saying that I can't be bothered paying for financial statements from Companies House again, when no one on here bothers to look at the facts.

My "stock" on an internet forum means everything to me, I'm mortally wounded now.:D

[wolvesman]

I remember those days. Hopefully they're on their way back next season. Almost getting optimistic.

Quite right..hope springs eternal..hey MM's first season wasn't bad for excitement was it

[Bumbamuffin]

Who would have thought that going to watch Wolves would become even less entertaining?

Bearing in mind you've clearly lost interest in the club(a fact you've repeated ad finitum),why do you spend your time on here picking holes in everything they do?

You've gone from one of the best posters on the board to yet another of the ones who's input is limited to snide remarks and incessant/predictable criticism.

Sad really.

[Stewarton Wolf]

Bearing in mind you've clearly lost interest in the club(a fact you've repeated ad finitum),why do you spend your time on here picking holes in everything they do?

You've gone from one of the best posters on the board to yet another of the ones who's input is limited to snide remarks and incessant/predictable criticism.

Sad really.
Who would the other ones be?

[Dewsburywolf]

MM's first season wasn't bad for excitement was it


Only after we got Kightly, McIndoe (resisting the urge to add expletives), Keogh & S.Ward the striker. First 2 or 3 months was poor IIRC.

[Bumbamuffin]

Who would the other ones be?

Who? Best posters? Not you mate;)

[Stewarton Wolf]

Moxey's had a lot of stick and sometimes rightfully so.

But I also reckon credit where credits' due. And I think he's entitled to blow smoke up his own ass on this occasion.
He wasn't shouting from the rooftops when he missed out on the managers main target Lafferty. (Not that I really wanted him anyway.)

[Del Woppio]

He wasn't shouting from the rooftops when he missed out on the managers main target Lafferty. (Not that I really wanted him anyway.)

Who said he was the main target? The fact that the bid was made public first (by external sources) doesn't make it relative to McCarthy's preferences, does it?

[Reach For The Sky]

Bearing in mind you've clearly lost interest in the club(a fact you've repeated ad finitum),why do you spend your time on here picking holes in everything they do?

You've gone from one of the best posters on the board to yet another of the ones who's input is limited to snide remarks and incessant/predictable criticism.

Sad really.

Does 2 or 3 times mean ad infinitum?

I drop in a couple of times a week and it makes me feel negative, I've made over 900 posts on another forum in less time and most of them are positive or at least constructive. Is it this forum or Wolves in general that make me feel this way?

I once came second in a vote on the most annoying poster on Molineux Mix, when did I get elevated to such enviable heights as one of the best posters on here?

BTW Dark Wolf won, not Stewarton.

[Del Woppio]

I've made over 900 posts on another forum in less time and most of them are positive or at least constructive.
.

That must surely be a lie, or it's a forum focussed on debating the importance of constant blinkered negativity.

[Reach For The Sky]

That must surely be a lie, or it's a forum focussed on debating the importance of constant blinkered negativity.

:D

No! It's talking about a league where MDs or CEOs earn what they are worth, it's a league where players salaries are capped and it's a league where some clubs charged as little as £10 to watch a game last season.

You're welcome to come and join us, but there are quicker ways than hiring McCarthy and attempting to get Wolves relegated to League 2.

[Black Suit]

I am glad to see some positive comments about the bloke (CEO). Not sure what we are supposed to impressed about, but there you go. The lad is a Wolves fan, who probably didn't want to go anywhere else, irrespective of cash sums and salaries on offer. Home town v Smoke, London weighting and all that. Overblown $$$$$$$$ to me.

[Wolv3nsam]

attempting to get Wolves relegated to League 2.

By finishing 5th in his first season and 7th in his second?

We're doomed...

[Stewarton Wolf]

Who said he was the main target? The fact that the bid was made public first (by external sources) doesn't make it relative to McCarthy's preferences, does it?
£2.5m + Potter + Elliott would seem to indicate that he was considering we have not spent more than £1.5m on any player since McCarthy has been in charge.

[The Bear]

He wasn't shouting from the rooftops when he missed out on the managers main target Lafferty. (Not that I really wanted him anyway.)
We offered a lot of money and someone else offered more. Not a lot Jez could have done about it other than pay well over the odds for him, wchih you would have criticised him for. He was never going to join us once Rangers had a bid accepted anyway.

In fact I'm willing to bet Jez thought the price was too steep but wanted to follow the manager's wishes, a la Frankowski.

[Stewarton Wolf]

We offered a lot of money and someone else offered more. Not a lot Jez could have done about it other than pay well over the odds for him, wchih you would have criticised him for. He was never going to join us once Rangers had a bid accepted anyway.

In fact I'm willing to bet Jez thought the price was too steep but wanted to follow the manager's wishes, a la Frankowski.
Yes but he magically got Stearman to sign for a smaller fee and smaller wages. Why if he's so good did that not happen with target No1

[The Bear]

He didn't. Leicester were true to their word, just like Grays were with Kightly.

[Deutsch Wolf]

And we were with Lescott.

[Stewarton Wolf]

He didn't. Leicester were true to their word, just like Grays were with Kightly.
So what you are saying is - The fact Moxey pulled off the deal for Stearman was due to Leicester City rather than the magical talents of a bloke just doing his job. So all this collective love is nothing more than a slap on the back for a CEO paid a substantial salary to sign a footballers as part of his remit.

Can we have a love in for the groundsman for seeding the pitch, or the office manager for ordering paperclips.

[MobNet Wolf]

Jez is doing a good job, but jees its cringeworthy the way he says 'young and hungry' in every single article these days. It may be true, but he should move onto a new cliche!

[W01ves]

Can we have a love in for the groundsman for seeding the pitch, or the office manager for ordering paperclips.

No chance, obviously you are not aware of the particularly dry patch we had where we couldn't buy any paperclips in for love nor money in around the January sales. Mind you it wasn't entirely the office manager's fault, they all wanted to be out clipping for Premiership clubs.

[itsonlyagame]

Not sure what good bragging about this kind of thing is going to do to be honest?


I think what it does mate is it helps to establish a more balanced forum. There are many on this forum who are very quick to jump on Moxey when things go wrong or poor decisions are made or he simply expresses an opinion which does not concur with their own. It's therefore only right that he should be openly praised when he gets things right, and in his transfer market dealings he has, almost without exception, been very professional and very successful. This in turn portrays our club in a favourable light with other potential signings and followers of football in general. It shows a level of integrity that makes others in the game feel comfortable when considering doing business with us. After all, credit where credit is due and all that! ;)

[SsgWolf]

I was talking to a Policeman yesterday who is responsible for the Police negotiations with the club
He is a Wolves fan himself and said that in his opinion Jez , quite rightly , plays real hard ball with the police about their policing arrangements
I think the police bill runs into the 100's of 1000's of pounds and Jez makes sure we get value for money and is not afraid to challenge the force
If the police had their way there would be a complete alcohol ban at the ground Jez ( admittedly for commercial reasons) has fought against this and my contact said that he really rated Jez's abilities as our CEO
I have never understood the negative publicity surrounding Moxey IMO he is one of the most astute and successful CEO's of any club in the whole of the country

i can help you understand.

jez thinks that our fans are rubbish, and has said as much on at least two occasions.

he thinks i am rubbish because i booed hoddle. unforgivable.

[wolfie smith]

its like watching big brother reading this forum, one gang against another with a couple of wet lettuces in the middle(me), can you not see this "debate" is pointless, will achieve nothing and only widens a divide that needs narrowing if we are all to come together and achieve a unified support of the club. i know its close season and naff all is happening but come on, grow up and talk football, the merits of CEO's should be for morgan to suss out as anything on here just stays in the abyss of the internet.

[The Bear]

So what you are saying is - The fact Moxey pulled off the deal for Stearman was due to Leicester City rather than the magical talents of a bloke just doing his job. So all this collective love is nothing more than a slap on the back for a CEO paid a substantial salary to sign a footballers as part of his remit.
I guess part of his job is also to build a relationship with other clubs and chairmen/CEO's/managers. Maybe it is this which Leicester took into consideration, or maybe the extra money wasn't enough to convince them of messing about with another club for another week or so.

We seem to have a decent relationship with clubs. Pulling out of the Eastwood to Coventry deal is the only one I can think of recently where we may have come across negatively to another club, but then again that may not have been entirely Moxey's decision.

[The Weasel]

i can help you understand.

jez thinks that our fans are rubbish, and has said as much on at least two occasions.

he thinks i am rubbish because i booed hoddle. unforgivable.

...and with that little outburst any credibility you may have had on this forum vanishes. Go on, I'll play along just for a moment....I don't believe anyone else on here subscribes to the view that " jez thinks that our fans are rubbish, and has said as much on at least two occasions".....so, lets see those quotes then to back up your libelous assertion.

Jez has on more than one occasion gone on public record to say that negativity inside the ground during games does nothing to help the team on the pitch. The vast majority of match going Wolves fans agree with him (evidenced by them not booing). Jez has also gone on public record countless times to praise Wolves fans for getting behind the team and creating fantastic support. He categorically does not think our fans are rubbish.

[Black Suit]

And we were with Lescott.

And now likewise with Seyi, just to make you happy. ;)

Can I also take this opportunity to repeat something I said earlier lads please?

The lad is a Wolves fan who didn't want to go elsewhere.

[Edgmond Wolf]

Moxey has done a solid job of getting the signings in with minimum fuss

[Black Suit]

Moxey has done a solid job of getting the signings in with minimum fuss

But fussing now about the Eastwood deal. Can't have it both way mate.

[Del Woppio]

Unfortunately he can’t be held responsible for the public outbursts of external influences.

[SsgWolf]

...and with that little outburst any credibility you may have had on this forum vanishes. Go on, I'll play along just for a moment....I don't believe anyone else on here subscribes to the view that " jez thinks that our fans are rubbish, and has said as much on at least two occasions".....so, lets see those quotes then to back up your libelous assertion.

Jez has on more than one occasion gone on public record to say that negativity inside the ground during games does nothing to help the team on the pitch. The vast majority of match going Wolves fans agree with him (evidenced by them not booing). Jez has also gone on public record countless times to praise Wolves fans for getting behind the team and creating fantastic support. He categorically does not think our fans are rubbish.


Actually, I don't believe it any more than you do. It's just a knee jerk reaction I have when others posts begin 'If I was still running an organisation....'. If they keep posting that, I'll keep posting mine.

[Stewarton Wolf]

Unfortunately he can’t be held responsible for the public outbursts of external influences.
Or the whims of a manager that buys players only to fall out with them and then place them on the transfer list less than a year later - Poor old Jez

[Kenny-11]

Or the whims of a manager that buys players only to fall out with them

and the proof of that fall out is??

[Bend It Like Dennison]

Another tongue-in-cheek thread designed to smoke out the the Moxey haters.

Well done, its worked.

I refuse to praise a man who wanted Hoddle to stay & continues to back McCarthy.

Lets just hope Stearman, Jones & Vokes arent all the transfer list next summer, like last 3 out of 4 of the signings from last summer, the signings that were supposedly going to push us forward, not 2 places backwards.

[Atlas 1951]

Another tongue-in-cheek thread designed to smoke out the the Moxey haters.

Well done, its worked.

I refuse to praise a man who wanted Hoddle to stay & continues to back McCarthy.

Lets just hope Stearman, Jones & Vokes arent all the transfer list next summer, like last 3 out of 4 of the signings from last summer, the signings that were supposedly going to push us forward, not 2 places backwards.

If there is more money made available, why not upgrade the squad?

I appreciate that the likes of Eliot added little or nothing to the squad but nobody's transfer record is perfect and when budgets are tight it makes getting the ideal man in much more difficult.

[OldWolvesfart]

Or the whims of a manager that buys players only to fall out with them and then place them on the transfer list less than a year later - Poor old Jez

Have you never paid good money for something and then been disappointed and had to take it back.

[Stewarton Wolf]

Have you never paid good money for something and then been disappointed and had to take it back.

I take time with my purchases and weigh up the options, if I can't afford exactly what I want I don't buy the nearest substitute or alternative product. I wait until what I want becomes available at the right price.

[OldWolvesfart]

I take time with my purchases and weigh up the options, if I can't afford exactly what I want I don't buy the nearest substitute or alternative product. I wait until what I want becomes available at the right price.

Then when you look down from on high do you not feel for us mere mortals struggling to make such day to day decisions.

[The Bear]

I take time with my purchases and weigh up the options, if I can't afford exactly what I want I don't buy the nearest substitute or alternative product. I wait until what I want becomes available at the right price.
Ah but you don't have thousands of inbreds constantly screaming at you to buy something do you?

[GoldenHorseshoe]

I knew it! He is a real Scotsman.

[John]

So what you are saying is - The fact Moxey pulled off the deal for Stearman was due to Leicester City rather than the magical talents of a bloke just doing his job. .
Exactly.
This thread should be entirely about congratulating Leicester City for thier outstanding moral standards.
For refusing to go back on thier word and make more money we should thank them.
That kind of outstanding moral value is rarely seen in football.

[Stewarton Wolf]

Ah but you don't have thousands of inbreds constantly screaming at you to buy something do you?
I don't recall thousands screaming for the signing of Freddy - T'was the summer though;)

[dazmanwolf]

Jez is doing a good job, but jees its cringeworthy the way he says 'young and hungry' in every single article these days. It may be true, but he should move onto a new cliche!

He'll be signing Oliver next..."Please sir can I have some more?" :D

Jez has done a fantastic job for this club. When ITV Sports collapsed and many clubs were struggling to stay afloat Jez did a great job of keeping us going.

I like the way he deals behind closed doors and we all get surprised when the player is revealed to us. Thats good business sense.

Long may he continue and long may he stay the WWFC CEO. :)

[glasgowwolf]

Hoddle said he left because the club's expectations didn't meet his own. He had a point, when someone let several key first team player's contracts expire at the same time and then sold the best of the remaining players.

Who refused a fee for Kenny Miller and allowed him to walk for nothing?

Who allowed several first team player's contracts to expire at the same time?

Who sold the club's best players?

Moxey agreed a fee with Sunderland, Miller wanted to leave for free, so he turned Sunderland down.

[Black Suit]

Moxey agreed a fee with Sunderland, Miller wanted to leave for free, so he turned Sunderland down.

He also stated that we had a better chance of going up with KM in the team rather than leaving.

[Black Suit]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stewarton Wolf
So what you are saying is - The fact Moxey pulled off the deal for Stearman was due to Leicester City rather than the magical talents of a bloke just doing his job. .

Exactly.
This thread should be entirely about congratulating Leicester City for thier outstanding moral standards.
For refusing to go back on thier word and make more money we should thank them.
That kind of outstanding moral value is rarely seen in football.

Plus RS himself the daft beggar, don't know how many times I have to state this, wanted to come to Wolves as he has always been a fan of the club, and DIDN'T want to go anywhere else!

Moxey's 'skills' were not required in this transaction.

[Kenny-11]

Moxey agreed a fee with Sunderland, Miller wanted to leave for free, so he turned Sunderland down.

Did we?

I thought Sunderland had 2 bids rejected. We wanted £2m but never got it and took a gamble that he would stay if we went up.
Shame he was played at right back by Hoddle

[Reach For The Sky]

Moxey agreed a fee with Sunderland, Miller wanted to leave for free, so he turned Sunderland down.

http://www.football.co.uk/sunderland/miller_bid_fails_194783.shtml

[dazmanwolf]

I'll be so glad when Eastwood has gone!

He won't ever break back into the squad unless we suffer a Munich style disaster next season.

Sell him and take the loss if there is one!

This is dragging on now. :(

[wolverine mick]

read a lot of nonsense on here, but IMO still think Jez does a good job, not perfect but then again who does?

[John]

read a lot of nonsense on here


but IMO still think Jez does a good job
The Irony

[wolverine mick]

The Irony

all about opinions

[John]

all about opinions
Exactly, but you refer to others as nonsense.

[wolverine mick]

my opinion, end of story

[Premier Quality]

And now likewise with Seyi, just to make you happy. ;)

Can I also take this opportunity to repeat something I said earlier lads please?

The lad is a Wolves fan who didn't want to go elsewhere.

He's not actually - moved away from Wolvo when he was 5, grown up a leicester fan apparently.

[Black Suit]

He's not actually - moved away from Wolvo when he was 5, grown up a leicester fan apparently.

He is actually. :)

[goldeneyed]

Moxey as master negotiator? Bit over the top. He has plenty of experience and does a reasonable job it seems on the negotiating front. But under his watch we have made some terrible signings at overblown prices for over age/useless players for whom we never got our money back.

No doubt mainly the managers' fault at the time but CEO's must take part of the blame and should be better informed about potential signings.The mere thought of the Robert Taylor deal and £1.5m going down the drain at a stroke makes you wonder at the stupidity of managers and CEOs sometimes.

[Deutsch Wolf]

But Jez can't overrule the manager on who he does or doesn't want to sign. If the manager wants Robert Taylor, Darren Anderton or Tomasz Frankowski, Moxey's remit is purely to get the player at the best possible financial terms to the club, regardless of whether he's never heard of him, thinks he's a dud or will be the next Arshavin.

[Del Woppio]

What would happen if he didn't back his manager though? Deciding who to buy isn't his job. The manager identifies the target, and Jez tries the secure them for the best price possible, irrespective of his own feelings as to their suitability. See Franek for example.

[Deutsch Wolf]

What would happen if he didn't back his manager though? Deciding who to buy isn't his job. The manager identifies the target, and Jez tries the secure them for the best price possible, irrespective of his own feelings as to their suitability. See Franek for example.

Get your own ideas.

[Del Woppio]

I much prefer reading your mind. Though I wish you'd stop thinking about Jamie Redknapp's crotch...

[Wolv3nsam]

Plus I seem to recall Jez saying he prefers Mick's way of conducting himself in the transfer market as Mick identifies a number of transfer targets so if one falls through there is always a good back-up option - where as Hoddle tended to just stick to one and if you didn't get that one you were in $$$$ street.

[Black Suit]

Keeps quiet about deals, does he now, I s'pose that isn't just to cover his $$$$ when sod all happens? Or when the club thinks, no sod it, we've spent enough. Make the right noises, those $$$$s will never know.

Cynical me, ain't I?

[Kenny-11]

Keeps quiet about deals, does he now, I s'pose that isn't just to cover his $$$$ when sod all happens? Or when the club thinks, no sod it, we've spent enough. Make the right noises, those $$$ will never know.

Cynical me, ain't I?

A boring cynic

[Dewsburywolf]

Keeps quiet about deals, does he now, I s'pose that isn't just to cover his $$$$ when sod all happens?


Or just playing his cards close to his chest so we don't get gazumped by other clubs. Or doesn't want to get involved in an auction.

Isn't that sound business sense?