Should Mick the Muppet be sacked ? (2)

[HIGHLANDER]

Well here we are again, usuall story, the Wolves have had more resources available to them than any other team yet have blown it again. The only thing that changes is the name of the clubs that eclipse us. In previous years its been Wigan, Bradford, Oldham, Reading, Swindon, Oxford, this year it's Bristol City, Stoke, Hull. I don't know about you but I'm totally $$$$ed off with the whole situation. This club of ours needs a massive shake up, and it's about time our new owner started showing some of the leadership qualites that he is rumored to have by taking a grip and sacking McCarthy, Connor and Moxey straight away.

$$$$ing $$$$ed off.:mad::mad::mad::mad:

[Tarcisio Mifsud]

Surely he should not be sacked now when the season is almost over and with a chance still to make it to the playoffs lottery.

[Jack Bauer]

'I am proud of the way the team played tonight'. Well you are the only $$$$ing one you nob.

[one4canel]

Disaster

Will That Be The Word Ringing Around The Mol( Last) Game Of The Season
Or Will It Be Wembley Wembley Here We Come
Oh To Be A Wobblers Fan

But I Think There Will Be Three Suitcases Being Packed At This Very Moment
Jm
Mm
Tc

[The Bear]

I bet you just COULDN'T WAIT for a result like last night's so you can spout your usual tired bull$$$$ propaganda when everyone is feeling down. What a $$$$ing $$$$-ring you are.

Why don't you $$$$ off and slit your wrists and leave us in peace?

[wolfie smith]

i wouldnt sack him until the end of the season though, doing it now would negate any chance we still have of making the torture offs.
despite all those in favour of keeping him i just fail to see how we can progress under him, crap football and inferior players having their ability dragged out of them.
sorry happy chappies, this young and hungry model is crap, give me decent 25-30 year olds anytime.

[thaibri2]

I bet you just COULDN'T WAIT for a result like last night's so you can spout your usual tired bull$$$$ propaganda when everyone is feeling down. What a $$$ $$$$-ring you are.

Why don't you $$$$ off and slit your wrists and leave us in peace?


Agreed bear, what a negative twot this guy is. I've added him to Stewerton and Dewsbury on threads to ignore.

Oh by the way I think QPR have alot more money than us to spend.

[Stewarton Wolf]

It is more than just last night, we have been poor for the majority of the season, lucky win at Charlton and we are world beaters...

[OCD Wolf]

I think Morgan should just go and give MM a simple order. Play-offs and he keeps his job for another tilt next season, fail, and shake his hand and say goodbye.
Four games to see if the squad really want to do it for their boss and if he has any motivational or tactical ability.

McCarthy excells with 'plucky losers' and 'underdogs' with our resources and in this league we don't fit in to that category.

If you have aspirations and ambitions (Sunderland, Roy Keane etc) history shows that McCarthy isn't the man.

So over to him, can get get his team 'up' for these four games?

Sadly I think not, I am sure Palace and Ipswich will slip up but we aren't clever, lucky, astute or good enough to take the opportunity that we will get.

Story of our season...

[jbarnettuk1984]

Well here we are again, usuall story,
yes, indeed. change the $$$$ing record.

[Toon Wolf]

God, I just want this misery of a season to be over. We aren't likely to make the play-offs and if by some stroke of good fortune we do, it'll be as a result of other team's ineptitude not because of our own play. Frankly, I'm not one who thinks McCarthy is 'thick' or 'stupid', I just don't think he is good enough. I quite like him as a bloke, just not as a football manager for my team. The sooner June comes around and I'm seeing Roberto Martinez, Darren Ferguson or Paul Ince as new Wolves manager, the better my summer will be.

[Hatch End Wolf]

Sorry jb but it was the usual story.

Mick's teams can rarely be accused of lack of effort and as Mick said after the match "they put a shift in". I agree with him......but against a better sides with more skillful / better coached players, who also "put a shift in", we continue to stumble.

Unfortunately Mick seems incapable of seeing that you need more than just effort and we were outplayed over most areas of the pitch.

We haven't improved much in the last twelve months, but Wolves do run about a lot and that should keep us in the top half of the table.

[Sharples]

Out in the summer.

Love the way Jez gets dragged into this too...

MM OUT
TC ??!
JEZ IN

[brummywolf]

Bloody hell- what a pathetic thread. Why not get behind the team until the end of the season- we're still in with a great chance of reaching the play-offs: it's going to be an exciting finale, why not try and enjoy supporting Wolves.

If we fail- which I imagine some people are hoping we will- then there's a massive chance that MM's head will roll as a consequence.So why not just wait until the end of the season? I bet some people were so $$$$ed off when Henry popped up with that last minute winner at Chalrton....

[djackl]

I've heard that Mick will be off if we don't make the playoffs.

[Moira Stewart]

If Mick thought that was a terrific performance last night then I'm done with 'terrific performances' and would like him to go.

[Timberwolf]

I actually quite like the bloke. However, i feel the time has come to dispense with his services. Even if we make the play-offs and by some miracle, go up.
He lacks all the necessary footballing knowledge to make a club sustainably succesful.

[sjonnie]

He's got to go - no question about it. We could have been promoted already with a competent manager in charge IMHO. He's failed to address the problems that were there to see a season and a half ago, he's regularly been out-thought tactically and he has failed to get the best out of certain players.

Would like to see a complete clearout with Moxey and Connor also saying goodbye. We need to rid the club of this legacy of failure - it's gone on too long.

We probably won't make the play-offs now but as soon as that becomes certain then the axe should fall.

[thisisgil]

The day after we lose to our bitter local rivals is not the right time to be having this debate.....

[sjonnie]

The day after we lose to our bitter local rivals is not the right time to be having this debate.....

We've been having it all season.

[Bend It Like Dennison]

Im more than happy for him to stay for the next 4 games.

Then he can **** off.

[Premier Quality]

second defeat in 10 games - I bet you've been gagging to put a sacking poll on.

I agree with bear - go top yourself and make the world a more cheerful place for everyone else.

[donwolf]

i'd have him gone by noon today

[cooper_J]

Bloody hell- what a pathetic thread. Why not get behind the team until the end of the season- we're still in with a great chance of reaching the play-offs: it's going to be an exciting finale, why not try and enjoy supporting Wolves.




Couldn't agree more. The first opportunity to have a pop McCarthy and it is taken.

The season isn't over yet, we stil have a chance. You don't do a post moretem on a person until they are dead, it should be the same for our season.

[Poole Wolf]

There's no bad time to sack McCarthy. Any time would be joyous.

[Jack]

Anybody who thinks Darren Gibson is a footballer deserves the boot

[Law's Bus]

Yeah, sack him now.

It's not as if we're still in a half-decent position to get in the play-offs, is it?

:rolleyes:

Wait and see where we end up at the end of the season before having this sort of ridiculous over-reaction.

[Bladon Wolf]

For christ sake,we all knew the run in and last night would be the hard one,four games left and we can win all of those,but i bet you we dont create the noise level or get behind the team half as much,it will make certain people on here very happy when we loose and Mick gets sacked,and you call yourselves WOLVES supporters

[Templeton Peck]

Anybody who thinks Darren Gibson is a footballer deserves the boot

Sir Alex Ferguson?

[Dewsburywolf]

Anybody who thinks Darren Gibson is a footballer deserves the boot


Ferguson still rates him. He's only here on Loan to gain experience so he can return to Old Trafford and fight for a place there.

[Templeton Peck]

No play offs no job simple as that. I'm losing patience with this 'building a team' argument - look how quickly Brown has turned Hull around from last season. IF he goes we need a total coaching clearout which is something I can't remember us doing since McGhee took over.

[Dewsburywolf]

For christ sake,we all knew the run in and last night would be the hard one,four games left and we can win all of those,but i bet you we dont create the noise level or get behind the team half as much,it will make certain people on here very happy when we loose and Mick gets sacked,and you call yourselves WOLVES supporters

I was the first one to start chanting "come on Wanderers" as soon as Gera (it had to be that $$$$$$$ after the Penalty save at their hole didn't it?) scored.

[Jack]

Ferguson still rates him. He's only here on Loan to gain experience so he can return to Old Trafford and fight for a place there.

There is no way he'll get in the first team for any meaningful amount of time.

Can somebody tell me what the guy has got? No pace, can't tackle, can't beat a bloke, can't header, fails to have any influence on a game...the list of what he can't do is endless.

If he came from Port Vale, we could at least stop hearing 'if he plays for Man U' he must be alright.

[sjonnie]

Ferguson still rates him. He's only here on Loan to gain experience so he can return to Old Trafford and fight for a place there.

I bet Ronaldo, Scholes, Anderson, Nani, and Hargreaves are bricking it!

[Jamboon]

I dont know what to think if im honest. I like MM and he is clearly trying everything he can to get us where we want to be. He has signed a number of good young players that should develop into even better ones and there seems to be a sense of unity in the squad. However, playing the Albion last night we still looked like a second rate team. One year on from the playoff defeat and they looked far more comfortable keeping us quiet. If we can get into the playoffs I'd keep him regardless of what division we are in next season. Otherwise...??

[Space Wolf]

There is no way he'll get in the first team for any meaningful amount of time.

Can somebody tell me what the guy has got? No pace, can't tackle, can't beat a bloke, can't header, fails to have any influence on a game...the list of what he can't do is endless.

If he came from Port Vale, we could at least stop hearing 'if he plays for Man U' he must be alright.

Well he did have one shot that was closer to the corner flag than the goal. Comedy value? :confused:

[Jamboon]

He's only here on Loan to gain experience so he can return to Old Trafford and fight for a place there.

I guarantee that Gibson will NEVER establish himself in United's first team squad. I'll take any bets and let you pick the odds!

[Bladon Wolf]

I was the first one to start chanting "come on Wanderers" as soon as Gera (it had to be that $$$$$$$ after the Penalty save at their hole didn't it?) scored.

Strange so was i Dewsbury,lets get together at the remaining games and keep the noise and support going then

[The Bear]

Well he did have one shot that was closer to the corner flag than the goal. Comedy value? :confused:

That was Seyi. Hit it on the volley and sliced it out for a throw in!

[Kenny-11]

That was Seyi. Hit it on the volley and sliced it out for a throw in!

Gibson hit one in the 2nd half then went to the corner flag as well. About 2 mins later he forced a decent save from Kiely with a shot from the same area

[glasgowwolf]

Mutchy, Told you!!! should have left my sweepstake up ;)

[glasgowwolf]

No play offs no job simple as that. I'm losing patience with this 'building a team' argument - look how quickly Brown has turned Hull around from last season. IF he goes we need a total coaching clearout which is something I can't remember us doing since McGhee took over.

we did that 18 months ago.

We had so few players we could not fulfill a friendly

[Templeton Peck]

we did that 18 months ago.

We had so few players we could not fulfill a friendly

No one disputes that Mick did a brillant job in his first season but it also can't be denied that we have gone backwards this season after being backed all the way by Morgan.

[Dewsburywolf]

I bet Ronaldo, Scholes, Anderson, Nani, and Hargreaves are bricking it!

I didn't say he was any good I was just stating what was said when we signed him. It was reported that he was coming to Wolves to "gain First team Experience so that he can push on and fight for a place back at Man. U". Something must have gone wrong whilst he's been here.

[Mutchy]

I didn't say he was any good I was just stating what was said when we signed him. It was reported that he was coming to Wolves to "gain First team Experience so that he can push on and fight for a place back at Man. U". Something must have gone wrong whilst he's been here.

Not necessarily. A good proportion of the United youngsters end up playing at a lower level.

[goldfish]

Of course Mick shouldn't be sacked. We looked short of belief and creativity last night- but not of effort or desire. With 4 crucial games left, McCarthy needs to get the squad believing in themselves and looking forward to matches. He's not going to do that by chastising them for losing 1-0 to a very good West Brom side. His post-match comments were exactly the right thing.

[The Weasel]

Highlander you really are an embarrassment, at least Stewarton has some logic behind his arguments, you've just been waiting for this opportunity to demonstrate your version of 'support'. I bet you were delighted. I trust you won't be coming to Wembley with us should we make it...

[The Alchemist]

Agreed bear, what a negative twot this guy is. I've added him to Stewerton and Dewsbury on threads to ignore.

Oh by the way I think QPR have alot more money than us to spend.


Agreed also - he just couldn't wait for us to lose so he could start again.

[Welsh Y'am Y'am]

I've said yes but he can stay til the season is over. This division is so devoid of quality (last night's opponents one of the exceptions imo), we may yet scrape 6th place.

I'm fed up with his 'tactics'. His inability to see that Olofinjana is NOT the best midfileder in the championship. His inability to see that hoofing the ball 'into the channels' is not a successful way to retain possession. His inability to change a game using his substitutes, other than to bring on 2 strikers and hoof the ball at them. His inability to coach good football. His inability to encourage his players to TRY something - you know, to have a bit of spark or flair. His inability to realise that the midfield is there for more than just defending. His inability - for a former centre half - to see that our centre halves (Craddock excepted) are not good enough.

I'm not out to get at Mick. I'd much rather we were winning and playing well. But the long and short of it is that he has made the same awful decisions all season long and has not learnt from his mistakes. He was happy with our performance yesterday, HOW? We had no central midfield! that's quite an important factor in deciding how a game goes! The service we gave our strikers was just hoof hoof and hoof again. Hoof it at their heads, hope something comes from it. Hoof it in the channels, hope something comes from it. Hoof and hope, hoof and hope, hoof and mother $$$$ing hope. It's $$$$e mick, utter $$$$e.

[PeteWolf]

Whether we go up or stay down McCarthy should be sacked. Anything else is a lack of ambition on behalf of Morgan.

It's so painfully obvious that he isn't the man to take the club forward. Full credit for what he did last year, he rebuilt the team and got us out of a nasty situation, and he deserves his compensation package for that, but now it's about moving on because McCarthy is limited, and we've just about reached the limit of where he can take us.

Tactically he was humiliated in comparison to Mowbray last night. As soon as Plan A was snuffled out at half time we had nothing. The players ran themselves into the ground without ever really looking like we would get anything from the game. His substitutions were a joke, bringing on two strikers who require a different style of play within 7 minutes of each other, neither having all that much time to do anything of note.

As mentioned on another thread, it's all well and fine building a young side, but they need experienced players to learn from, and we have no balance on that front. People cite the lack of Michael Kightly (a player he never saw before signing) for our poor showing this season. It's certainly a big factor, but we shouldn't be a one man team. Unfortunately we are, something McCarthy needs to take the full blame for.

He's managed to alienate players with the worst man management skills I've ever witnessed by a manager at this club (Craddock to Stoke, the treatment of Eastwood (love him or hate him, either way McCarthy hasn't been able to manage him) being two prime examples).

Whatever happens, it's time to move on. Any manager worth his salt with the money he has had would be doing better in this league this year, and the real question is would you want him in the Premier League? If the answer is no, then time for him to go.

It won't be today or tomorrow, but at the end of the season I'd move him on whatever happens.

[Dewsburywolf]

Not necessarily. A good proportion of the United youngsters end up playing at a lower level.

Entirely agree SEB & Jonathan Macken (a £5m Striker) being Prime Examples. I was just replying to the statement that whoever rates him mustn't be a decent Manager (or whatever) when it was Fergie who rated him. Maybe Gibson's a case of right player wrong club Syndrome, who can say?

[No. 7 George Bowen]

Whether we go up or stay down McCarthy should be sacked. Anything else is a lack of ambition on behalf of Morgan.

It's so painfully obvious that he isn't the man to take the club forward. Full credit for what he did last year, he rebuilt the team and got us out of a nasty situation, and he deserves his compensation package for that, but now it's about moving on because McCarthy is limited, and we've just about reached the limit of where he can take us.

Tactically he was humiliated in comparison to Mowbray last night. As soon as Plan A was snuffled out at half time we had nothing. The players ran themselves into the ground without ever really looking like we would get anything from the game. His substitutions were a joke, bringing on two strikers who require a different style of play within 7 minutes of each other, neither having all that much time to do anything of note.

As mentioned on another thread, it's all well and fine building a young side, but they need experienced players to learn from, and we have no balance on that front. People cite the lack of Michael Kightly (a player he never saw before signing) for our poor showing this season. It's certainly a big factor, but we shouldn't be a one man team. Unfortunately we are, something McCarthy needs to take the full blame for.

He's managed to alienate players with the worst man management skills I've ever witnessed by a manager at this club (Craddock to Stoke, the treatment of Eastwood (love him or hate him, either way McCarthy hasn't been able to manage him) being two prime examples).

Whatever happens, it's time to move on. Any manager worth his salt with the money he has had would be doing better in this league this year, and the real question is would you want him in the Premier League? If the answer is no, then time for him to go.

It won't be today or tomorrow, but at the end of the season I'd move him on whatever happens.

Its called patience and building.

Clearly Sunderland showed he can get us promoted as champions comfortably.

Nope he went for it. The players were too scared and capitulated mentally after the goal. Not much he could do.

No we are building a young team like Arsenal.

Yes lets sell Kightly and not recruit players who might be head and shoulders above our other players. Torres and Gerrard should be sold by Lpool on that basis.

Er? Players are handing in transfer requests right left and centre aren't they. Please show some evidence, Craddock wants a new contract. Just because you say so in an emotionally laden manner (people do that when the point they are making isn't true to cover up the fact its a stupid argument) does not make it true.

Sheff Utd, Stoke, West Brom, QPR, Watford, Charlton, Leicester, inter alia no doubt, have all had the same money and some with a stronger squad already in place. We are buying potential.

[QB Wolf]

I actually feel more positive today than I have for a long time, I actually think we are starting to see improvements after a poor start, unfortunately it is too little too late. MMs additions since xmas have done well and if we can carry the current form into next season we'll do Ok , we need to get rid of some deadwood and add 2 or 3 and we'll do well I reckon, invest the 2 mill we get from Eastwood wisely Mick!!

[PeteWolf]

Its called patience and building.
It's called indecision


Clearly Sunderland showed he can get us promoted as champions comfortably.
Well, he's already behind on that front. If you want to cite Sunderland as an example, bear in mind that he built a side that went down with a record low points tally. Something that I'm extremely confident we'd have no problems in matching if godforbid we do get promoted


Nope he went for it. The players were too scared and capitulated mentally after the goal. Not much he could do.
Rubbish. We didn't go for it, we threw all the strikers we had on the field with the aim of hitting it high and long up to them. It's the tactics of someone who has run out of ideas.


No we are building a young team like Arsenal.
I laughed out loud reading that!


Yes lets sell Kightly and not recruit players who might be head and shoulders above our other players. Torres and Gerrard should be sold by Lpool on that basis.
Where exactly did I say lets sell Kightly? Kightly (along with Hennessey) is one of the rare examples of a young player who can learn by himself, if you're going to build a young side though, then young players need to learn, and they will only do that playing alongside experienced pros.

Building a young side isn't a policy I particularly agree with anyway. All the best sides have players from a range of ages. Everyone seems agreed that Greening was head and shoulders the best player on the pitch last night, well he's 29. Koren next to him was 28, the goalscorer Gera 29, and their top scorer Phillips 35 in a few months time.

They are way ahead of us, and we should have at least 4-5 of our team in the same age range as those players. We need a blend of young players, not a bunch of enthusiastic, but ultimately not quite good enough novices trying their best.


Er? Players are handing in transfer requests right left and centre aren't they. Please show some evidence, Craddock wants a new contract.
There is no way you can suggest McCarthy has properly handled players this season. I'd be tempted to sack him for his public humiliation of Eastwood alone. He has a long and chequered history throughout his career of poor man management skills

Sheff Utd, Stoke, West Brom, QPR, Watford have all had the same money and some with a stronger squad already in place. We are buying potential.
We are buying another several years in this division and the increasing likliehood of the vultures in the Premier League picking off our best talent, whilst at the same time moving further ahead with the increased TV deal.

[Toon Wolf]

Its called patience and building.

The trouble is we can build all we like, but if we aren't making progress, what is it exactly we are building? Besides which, history shows that promising Championship players rapidly get snapped up by Premier League clubs. We can think we are building only to have the foundations collapse beneath us.

Clearly Sunderland showed he can get us promoted as champions comfortably.

Yes, he did get Sunderland promoted as champions. What happened following that? He has not exactly excelled at any level has he?

Nope he went for it. The players were too scared and capitulated mentally after the goal. Not much he could do.

No we are building a young team like Arsenal.

To compare Wolves and Arsenal is frankly laughable. It's like comparing a Van Gogh with one of my efforts from primary school! And the point you are singularly missing is that players with promise will move TO Arsenal and our players with promise will sooner or later (unless we get promoted quickly) move out of our club. Sure as eggs is eggs.

Yes lets sell Kightly and not recruit players who might be head and shoulders above our other players. Torres and Gerrard should be sold by Lpool on that basis.

Not sure what your point is here!

Er? Players are handing in transfer requests right left and centre aren't they. Please show some evidence, Craddock wants a new contract.

There appears to be some unity in the dressing room with the exception of the South Bank lovechild, Eastwood. Having said that all the players were making near enough the same noises about being 100% behind Hoddle and look how that worked out.

Sheff Utd, Stoke, West Brom, QPR, Watford have all had the same money and some with a stronger squad already in place. We are buying potential.

Really? Which of those teams has spent the best part of £8 million this season? We have been one of, if not, THE biggest spenders in the division and as a result we are a poorer team than last season. That is not progression, that is regression.



See bolded responses.

[Premier Quality]

There is no way you can suggest McCarthy has properly handled players this season. I'd be tempted to sack him for his public humiliation of Eastwood alone. He has a long and chequered history throughout his career of poor man management skills

oh, get off the bandwagon. Maybe he's been trying to turn a talented but lazy whinger into a quality team player. Eastwood was a gamble that hasn't paid off and I'd say thats his fault rather than MM's who isnt actually responsible for everything in the world. Would Capello have turned him into a lean mean goalscoring machine? I doubt it, without FE putting in the effort.

Yes, he succeeded at southend, the team was built around him and they were relegated, so thats not a model I'd want to follow thanks.

Incidentally a lot of players have said he's an excellent manager just as some have said he's rubbish. Name me one manager who doesnt have any player ever saying he's no good?

Personally I dont think MM is the best manager in the world, nor the worst, but unbalanced rubbish from some of the miserable idiots on here gets on my nerves, especially when I'm not in a good mood following the result.

[No. 7 George Bowen]

Its called patience and building.
It's called indecision
Again you must have inside knowledge I don't (doubt it though).

Clearly Sunderland showed he can get us promoted as champions comfortably.
Well, he's already behind on that front. If you want to cite Sunderland as an example, bear in mind that he built a side that went down with a record low points tally. Something that I'm extremely confident we'd have no problems in matching if godforbid we do get promoted
Yes as we are building a young team and the Champ is a stronger league now. Patience.

Nope he went for it. The players were too scared and capitulated mentally after the goal. Not much he could do.
Rubbish. We didn't go for it, we threw all the strikers we had on the field with the aim of hitting it high and long up to them. It's the tactics of someone who has run out of ideas.
Contradiction: we didn't go for it and then we threw all the strikers on????
Albion are weak at high balls, some were advocating starting Kyle. Whats your point?

No we are building a young team like Arsenal.
I laughed out loud reading that!
You are easily amused.

Yes lets sell Kightly and not recruit players who might be head and shoulders above our other players. Torres and Gerrard should be sold by Lpool on that basis.
Where exactly did I say lets sell Kightly? Kightly (along with Hennessey) is one of the rare examples of a young player who can learn by himself, if you're going to build a young side though, then young players need to learn, and they will only do that playing alongside experienced pros.

Building a young side isn't a policy I particularly agree with anyway. All the best sides have players from a range of ages. Everyone seems agreed that Greening was head and shoulders the best player on the pitch last night, well he's 29. Koren next to him was 28, the goalscorer Gera 29, and their top scorer Phillips 35 in a few months time.

They are way ahead of us, and we should have at least 4-5 of our team in the same age range as those players. We need a blend of young players, not a bunch of enthusiastic, but ultimately not quite good enough novices trying their best.[/b]
You implied it as signing another Kightly is a hard task so the only solution would be to sell him.
I disagree. The Hayward era was a collosal failure.

Er? Players are handing in transfer requests right left and centre aren't they. Please show some evidence, Craddock wants a new contract.
There is no way you can suggest McCarthy has properly handled players this season. I'd be tempted to sack him for his public humiliation of Eastwood alone. He has a long and chequered history throughout his career of poor man management skills
Thats why Kyle Collins, Elliot, Breen etc. all wanted to play for him again. Thank God you are not the Chairman we would be sacking managers all the time as guess what they fall out with players from time to time whilst signing over paid over the hill players as we used to.

Sheff Utd, Stoke, West Brom, QPR, Watford have all had the same money and some with a stronger squad already in place. We are buying potential.
We are buying another several years in this division and the increasing likliehood of the vultures in the Premier League picking off our best talent, whilst at the same time moving further ahead with the increased TV deal.
Try not channeling so much emotional energy into a football club. Its just game.

[PeteWolf]

oh, get off the bandwagon. Maybe he's been trying to turn a talented but lazy whinger into a quality team player. Eastwood was a gamble that hasn't paid off and I'd say thats his fault rather than MM's who isnt actually responsible for everything in the world. Would Capello have turned him into a lean mean goalscoring machine? I doubt it, without FE putting in the effort.

Yes, he succeeded at southend, the team was built around him and they were relegated, so thats not a model I'd want to follow thanks.

Incidentally a lot of players have said he's an excellent manager just as some have said he's rubbish. Name me one manager who doesnt have any player ever saying he's no good?

Personally I dont think MM is the best manager in the world, nor the worst, but unbalanced rubbish from some of the miserable idiots on here gets on my nerves, especially when I'm not in a good mood following the result.
Everyone, except seemingly McCarthy knew what Eastwood is about. You can't buy a player and then mercilessly slag him off in public because he doesn't play in the style you want (he was our top goalscorer at the time for gods sake). McCarthy has a lot to answer for when it comes to the Eastwood situation, and he doesn't come out favourably on it.

As ToonWolf mentions, the players were continually praising Hoddle. Most of them know which side their bread is buttered on, and it really isn't worth paying much attention to most articles praising the manager.

[PeteWolf]

Try not channeling so much emotional energy into a football club. Its just game.
Only a women who doesn't watch football would say that.

[No. 7 George Bowen]

See bolded responses.

Its a risk but there are risks whatever course we choose.

He excelled at the champ and international stage. Sunderland in the prem is another story. I still rate Jewell.

The recruitment philosophy of building is the same which is the comparison I made.

Exceptional players make themselves indispensable, there is nothing you can do to change that.

Good at least you admit that is a myth.

They have all been big spenders with some having stronger initial squads. You ignore we are not buying instant success.

[Toon Wolf]

Its a risk but there are risks whatever course we choose.

You are correct, there are. However, ask yourself this- which risk is greater, allowing McCarthy to continue building this 'young and hungry' squad that don't get the results because of his failings as a manager or getting someone in who will get the players playing at a level higher than they have shown under Mick?

He excelled at the champ and international stage. Sunderland in the prem is another story. I still rate Jewell.

I think 'excelled' is overstating things! He has got one promotion in his career and ROI were not exactly Brazil!

The recruitment philosophy of building is the same which is the comparison I made.

Fair enough, but the point is that you can build with young talent in the Prem, but if you try it in the Championship that talent will soon be poached by Prem teams if you are not getting success. Not comparable really.

Exceptional players make themselves indispensable, there is nothing you can do to change that.

Ok.

Good at least you admit that is a myth.

Myth? I never said that, I made the point that we don't really know the truth about the state of the dressing room harmony/disharmony. Although I would say there are some apparent anomalies regarding player handling and the statements being given to the press by some of the squad.

They have all been big spenders with some having stronger initial squads. You ignore we are not buying instant success.

No, I'm responding to your statement that they have all had the same money and that is not true. We have spent more than all of those clubs- Christ we spent over £2 million in January, which other Championship did that?



Again, see my responses in bold.

[No. 7 George Bowen]

Again, see my responses in bold.

Matter of opinion regarding managers but buying players with a resale value is the safest long term strategy.

Sunderland excelled, ROI he was good. Micks real strength is his buying so international football negated that. I back Mick for another season despite the fact I have some concerns.

It will happen at some point but they have to be good players to be wanted by prem teams. Anyway players on average tend to only stay a short while anyway and Mick certainly has the ability replace them.

-

Yes we don't know except I am hard pressed to see any sign of the key players being unhappy. Players who aren't playing tend to be unhappy. Ferguson has shipped out a fair few due to clashes.

Stoke spent £3.5m in Jan. I don't know the figures but I feel my initial statement stands. We haven't spent a huge amount in comparison to other teams in the circumstances.

[Dewsburywolf]

Stoke spent £3.5m in Jan. I don't know the figures but I feel my initial statement stands. We haven't spent a huge amount in comparison to other teams in the circumstances.

Sheff. United spent £4m on Beattie and £1.5m on Sharp alone and are a Hell of a lot worse off than we are. In spite of coming down from the Prem with Parachute money.

Not sure who they sold but they HAVE spent money and haven't exactly been running away with the League have they. Can't all be down to Alchy Robson either can it?

[UNCLE REMUS]

Lose one and Rag, Tag and Bobtail are on the case. Go and support somebody else. Leave us to wallow.

Bet none of them have ever kicked a ball in anger in their lives.

[Denmead Wolf]

I dont think anyone should be sacked until we know our end of season outcome. However, after being totally a fan of Micks, and his no nonsense approach, I do find myself worrying for our future with him remaining in charge. Yes, the effort and energy alone shown by some players last night would have earned us a victory against poorer opposition. However, looking to the future, should that get us out of this division, what chance our Premiership survival? Albion could probably finish 4th from bottom, so how does that bode well for us when they are obviously better than us? I know investment would secure some additional players, but we would need a helluva lot of players to secure Premiership survival.
I am sure we would have an additional 10 points if Kites had been playing every game since his injury, so that hasnt helped Mick. And if that makes us a 1 man team, well so be it, he is a class act in this league, and plays for us, so if we win because he plays so what? There are plenty of Premier teams who struggle without their best player. So without him, our promising start has disappeared.
But every team has injuries, and we have been able to "steal" a goalscorer from a Plymouth team that are still relatively close to us in the league. A goalscorer who unfortunately hasnt had the best of games since winning player of the month.
If we dont make the playoffs, I think Mick will go. If we make the playoffs and lose them, I think he will be given another go at it. I dont want to chop and change managers as each one seems to bring something great to the club, but also inevitably, things turn sour. But I worry for our "putting in a shift" tactic should we get to the Premiership.
So, am I happy clapper or a doom-monger? Probably a happy doom-monger! All I know for sure is that whatever league we are in, whoever is in charge and whoever is wearing the Gold shirts, I will give the club my full support on match days, as I have done since birth. As will so many on this site.
I know many on here think certain posters are hoping we lose so they can have a rant at the club, the Board, the players, the manager, however, I like a good old moan on here, which is why i post, but come matchdays, I am sure we are all from the same hymn sheet and looking for a victory.

Come back to me on Saturday at 5pm and see what I think then!

[Poole Wolf]

What's the point in keeping him for even another day? If we go up with MM in charge we're stuffed and who wants another season of this year's rubbish? Comparisons with Sheff U are puerile as Robson is possible one of the few managers even worse than McCarthy. If we keep employing managers who have failed with other clubs then we will be in this division for ever. Its about time the supporters of this club woke up. We've been outmanouvered by Hull City, Bristol City and Stoke City and what club called City ever won anything? Hardly ever. Palace are doing what some of you say we are doing and playing their kids. Warnock has got this so right. If we had been playing Jones, Little and the others when available this season I would be a lot more supportive but he has held them back and brought in lesser players. The bloke is an idiot and should stick to snappy platitudes on the TV with the other serial failures like Hoddle and Taylor.

[Tomasz]

Can someone point me to where MM "mercilessly slagged off" Eastwood in public? I can only remember him being asked a question and him giving an honest answer, nothing agressive in it at all...

[Dewsburywolf]

Can someone point me to where MM "mercilessly slagged off" Eastwood in public? I can only remember him being asked a question and him giving an honest answer, nothing agressive in it at all...

Ever heard of the age old theory of not letting the facts get in the way of a good story? :rolleyes:

[JR's Boots]

This type of poll will appear time and time again as it has defined this season.

The telling statistics of this season is our record against the current top 6 sides. One win and that's against the team in 6th place. It is unlikely we are going to buck the trend now and gain promotion.

Against any half decent team that matches our shift in work ethic, we flounder. Only good tactics by a good manager utlising good footballers is going to get us up. We haven't got those ingredients.

[Shropshire Lad]

Surely its not a case of sacking but whether his contract is rolled forward

[saturday boy]

Wolves have proven over the last 20 years that sacking managers when the going gets tough ends up with Wolves being promoted. This has happened at least once which is obviously sufficient evidence.

[FLEET WOLF]

Ferguson still rates him. He's only here on Loan to gain experience so he can return to Old Trafford and fight for a place there.


From what I have see, he will therefore be fighting for a long time!

[Premier Quality]

What's the point in keeping him for even another day? If we go up with MM in charge we're stuffed and who wants another season of this year's rubbish? Comparisons with Sheff U are puerile as Robson is possible one of the few managers even worse than McCarthy. If we keep employing managers who have failed with other clubs then we will be in this division for ever. Its about time the supporters of this club woke up. We've been outmanouvered by Hull City, Bristol City and Stoke City and what club called City ever won anything? Hardly ever. Palace are doing what some of you say we are doing and playing their kids. Warnock has got this so right. If we had been playing Jones, Little and the others when available this season I would be a lot more supportive but he has held them back and brought in lesser players. The bloke is an idiot and should stick to snappy platitudes on the TV with the other serial failures like Hoddle and Taylor.

I agree, we should only hire managers who have never failed, like Warnock. Oh, he got utd relegated. Brown at hull, he's brilliant. Except with Derby of course. Sam Allerdyce! Oh, Newcastle.

never failed with other clubs means inexperienced and in their first role mate. There are a few exceptions like o'neil, ferguson and Moyes but even they have had supporters calling for their heads.

The fact is you dont know how we would perform in the prem under mccarthy. His signings tend to be really good in my view, with another season of buying we could be in a great position - we might not, but would we be any better with yet another clear out of current players and reverting to old players?

On the spending arguament, Stoke have spent more than us this season if you include Ameobi at £3.5m (Which is a crazy fee), This Albion side cost more than ours, even if it wasnt all in one year, Sheff Utd spent 5.5m on 2 players, its actually a pretty high spending league. We dont have a divine right to walk the league just because we spent some money in january.

Its about time supporters of this club woke up? We are awake mate, we're just not all fifteen and expecting the world, or forty five and manic depressive.

[Paul76]

How many polls have we had this year? Is Mick McCarthy breaking the most poll threads?

Surely Hoddle must have had a few?

I wasn't here In the Hoddle days. What was It like with Hoddle or even Jones? Was their more polls?

Is Super Mick the poll King?

[Wolv3nsam]

Tedious.

[Premier Quality]

How many polls have we had this year? Is Mick McCarthy breaking the most poll threads?

Surely Hoddle must have had a few?

I wasn't here In the Hoddle days. What was It like with Hoddle or even Jones? Was their more polls?

Is Super Mick the poll King?

No mate, it was exactly the same, just substitute the name.

****** is the worst manager we've ever had, hes an idiot the square/lantern/weak/thin jawed buffoon....

blah blah blah happy clappers, blah blah blah pant wetters....

usual rubbish.

[Paul76]

No mate, it was exactly the same, just substitute the name.

****** is the worst manager we've ever had, hes an idiot the square/lantern/weak/thin jawed buffoon....

blah blah blah happy clappers, blah blah blah pant wetters....

usual rubbish.

Many thanks for that. Makes me chuckle. I'd be a doom monger If Hoddle was In charge!

[Wolv3nsam]

If only the atmosphere last night could be copied into our remaining 3 games, rather than slagging off individuals or ironically cheering when we have a shot on goal/when a player is substituted.

We may not have won last night, but it makes the players feel a whole lot $$$$ing better knowing we are behind them and not against them like we have been in the majority of home games this season.

[Poole Wolf]

Quote: we're just not all fifteen and expecting the world, or forty five and manic depressive.

I'm 59 and I've seen us win the top prizes. If McCarthy's signings had been good we would be in the top two. Over all his signings have been poor, his approach been inflexible, his tactics naive and defensive and entertainment value mostly nil. He's bought the wrong players at the wrong time and failed to address weaknesses. At this level we have a great set up and do not have a problem attracting players. It just needs an imaginative intelligent manager to exploit this. He's made the same mistake as Jones with Silas and bought palyers that do not fit into his so so inflexible system. He's failed - again and if he stays here he will fail more. Why are you loyal to him, do you like watching disjointed leaderless rubbish. This has been a very poor Championship this season. Even if WBA win it they will be 10 points behind previous winners over the last few seasons. We will never have a better chance and next season £30m will be chicken feed against the parachute payments. MM was a terrible appointment.

[HIGHLANDER]

Surely he should not be sacked now when the season is almost over and with a chance still to make it to the playoffs lottery.
I'm not aware that I said he should be sacked now.

[HIGHLANDER]

'I am proud of the way the team played tonight'. Well you are the only $$$ one you nob.Look at the poll and you'll find it suggests otherwise

[wolfie smith]

What's the point in keeping him for even another day? If we go up with MM in charge we're stuffed and who wants another season of this year's rubbish? Comparisons with Sheff U are puerile as Robson is possible one of the few managers even worse than McCarthy. If we keep employing managers who have failed with other clubs then we will be in this division for ever. Its about time the supporters of this club woke up. We've been outmanouvered by Hull City, Bristol City and Stoke City and what club called City ever won anything? Hardly ever. Palace are doing what some of you say we are doing and playing their kids. Warnock has got this so right. If we had been playing Jones, Little and the others when available this season I would be a lot more supportive but he has held them back and brought in lesser players. The bloke is an idiot and should stick to snappy platitudes on the TV with the other serial failures like Hoddle and Taylor.

exactly, the young and hungry we already have are not even tried therefore we dont have a young and hungry policy, we have a muddled policy of buying someone to score goals who doesnt get a game, ones for the future that are played straight away, others that are signed and continually used no matter how crap they play. this together with negative football will equal failure every time. get some experience in the team so we can battle with the better teams.

[Oldgoldwulf]

Quote: we're just not all fifteen and expecting the world, or forty five and manic depressive.

I'm 59 and I've seen us win the top prizes. If McCarthy's signings had been good we would be in the top two. Over all his signings have been poor, his approach been inflexible, his tactics naive and defensive and entertainment value mostly nil. He's bought the wrong players at the wrong time and failed to address weaknesses. At this level we have a great set up and do not have a problem attracting players. It just needs an imaginative intelligent manager to exploit this. He's made the same mistake as Jones with Silas and bought palyers that do not fit into his so so inflexible system. He's failed - again and if he stays here he will fail more. Why are you loyal to him, do you like watching disjointed leaderless rubbish. This has been a very poor Championship this season. Even if WBA win it they will be 10 points behind previous winners over the last few seasons. We will never have a better chance and next season £30m will be chicken feed against the parachute payments. MM was a terrible appointment.

Great post - totally agree...
(i'm 36 by the way - although i'm not sure it's relevent)

Why is it that everyone who says they don't rate Mick and want a change are suddenly 'pant-wetters' or 'doom-mongers'..???

What a load of $$$$!

After watching him (mis)manage this season I feel it's time for him to go...

I'm not an idiot.. I can appreciate what he did last season, and i'm grateful... but not blinded by it.

This season (and in patches last season) we have seen Mick for the manager he truly is...

A lover of hard work and graft over craft and ability.

A man who is straight talking and honest but is also stubborn and inflexible...

Passionate on the touchline but limited tactically...

Has unearthed one or two gems...

But also quite a few 'average' players...

And has shown too much faith shown in mediocre ones.

For me - not the man to take us forward... no matter how much you try to dress it up.

No - sacking managers every two years isn't ideal... but neither is persevering with the wrong one!

We needed, and probably could have gotten an up and coming manager (Mowbray for instance???)... instead yet again Jez and co went for the bigger name... the Ex-International manager on the way-down career-wise.

This is NOT a knee-jerk response to last night's no-show, but a calm and measured response to what i've seen this year and to be honest what I feared back when Mick was appointed.

Not the man to take us any further i'm afraid.

[Paul76]

This is NOT a knee-jerk response to last night's no-show, but a calm and measured response to what i've seen this year and to be honest what I feared back when Mick was appointed.

Not the man to take us any further i'm afraid.

You might be correct. You could be wrong. I'll reserve my judgment until the season Is over.

Massive game Saturday. Bring It on.

[Atlas 1951]

Is Mick McCarthy breaking the most poll threads?

Is Super Mick the poll King?

There´s a poll in that, if anyone fancies starting it...

[Paul76]

There´s a poll in that, if anyone fancies starting it...

No, I don't think anybody Is interested. Maybe If I'd used the word "Thick" or "Muppet" then you might be onto some thing.

[Oldgoldwulf]

You might be correct. You could be wrong. I'll reserve my judgment until the season Is over.

Massive game Saturday. Bring It on.

Agreed... it is only my opinion after all.

I think many will wait until the end of the season before passing judgement but for me, even if we somehow make the Play-offs - i'd still maintain that Mick isn't the man for us... not with the way he likes to play football.

We are a million miles away from where I want us to be... and that is playing attractive, fast-paced, passing football like the Albion... not this turgid, hit and hope tripe.

And no amount of huffing and puffing, heart on sleeve, honest graft and 'shifts being put in' will compensate for that i'm afraid...

If that is what we have to look forward to under Mick next season i'll be keeping my £350 in my bank account and listening to WM instead i'm afraid.

[Grizzled Wolf]

Agreed... it is only my opinion after all.

I think many will wait until the end of the season before passing judgement but for me, even if we somehow make the Play-offs - i'd still maintain that Mick isn't the man for us... not with the way he likes to play football.

We are a million miles away from where I want us to be... and that is playing attractive, fast-paced, passing football like the Albion... not this turgid, hit and hope tripe.

And no amount of huffing and puffing, heart on sleeve, honest graft and 'shifts being put in' will compensate for that i'm afraid...

If that is what we have to look forward to under Mick next season i'll be keeping my £350 in my bank account and listening to WM instead i'm afraid.

Your opinion is every bit as good as anyone elses Oldgold...that is what makes this season so frustrating. I would hazard a guess that right now there is a 50/50 split an the future of MM and the style he brings to the Mol.

It is really hard to settle on the way ahead with so many cons and pros coming into play...I think that generally speaking none of us want to keep on chopping and changing managers...that is definitely not the way to go. So how can we sort it out in our heads with any confidence?

1. We can all write a long list of what we earnestly believe are gaffes by McCarthy...without going through them all again..is it enough to justify his removal?

2. Is the team we have now good enough to win this division next year.. here I don't mean get into the playoffs..I mean win the damn thing?

3. Are we all confident about the training our players are getting?

4. If by some crazy mischance we got into the Prem this year..are we all quite sure that MM is the man to see us stay up there?

5. Do we feel confident that MM will see how godawful our midfield is and rectify it before we kick off another season?

If we feel doubt about any of those 5 points then maybe we should think about change!

These are just 5pts to consider and maybe make our minds up on the path to major improvements..MM seems to be a well liked fellow by those who say they have met him. But sometimes just being well liked is not good enough.

For me personally...there are too many ifs ands and buts about keeping the present manager...if he stays I would have very little confidence that we even reach the playoffs next year. If we entered the Prem I would have totally no confidence in him and would expect to come back down rapidly again.

I don't know what you guys think..but for me everything that this club has done this season has been in what you might call the tentative area...both players and manager don't seem to be able to take a game by the throat for more than ten minutes at a time. Even our players seem to spend a lot of time evading tackles and getting rid of the ball as quickly as possible.

Obviously this is not the mind set that wins a league! So looking at everything and trying to be fair..I think that MM should step aside and give us a chance with another manager to put some belief back into the club again.

[QB Wolf]

Was Mick a victim of his own success, compare the squad to what it was when that ******* left then I think we're in good shape in 2 years, we've gone from relegation candidates to promotion candidates, with a good young squad with plenty of potential add some quality and experience and we'll be OK next year!!

[Professional]

If he stays until next season, it will be another season scrapping around in 9th or 10th place. Perhaps that is what we expect now as Wolves supporters.

[rincewind]

Can't see the point of sacking MM with 4 (or hopefully 7) games to go. I have said before i'm not a big fan of sacking managers every couple of seasons nor indeed sure if MM should go. But his interview on Radio WM amazed me. Yes there was plenty of effort but we deserved a draw. Mick they could easily have scored 3 or 4 and overun us in midfield (admittedly not an area of the pitch we used much). If we reproducethis performane in the next couple of games the playoffs will be gone and probably so should Mick.

[HIGHLANDER]

Was Mick a victim of his own success, compare the squad to what it was when that ******* left then I think we're in good shape in 2 years, we've gone from relegation candidates to promotion candidates, with a good young squad with plenty of potential add some quality and experience and we'll be OK next year!!
"That *******", as you describe him, left us in 7th place after having spent hardly any money in the transfer market. The following exodus of most of our first team squad that summer can be blamed on the poor planning of Moxey. We now have a manager who after spending nearly £8m in the last year has turned us from play-off qualifiers in to a bunch of failures.

[Reach For The Sky]

The following exodus of most of our first team squad that summer can be blamed on the poor planning of Moxey.

I know it's easy, with the benefit of hindsight, to blame big Jez, so I will. Who in their right mind organised most of the senior player's contracts to expire at the same time? Who mis-managed the money so that all of those players had to leave at the same time? Let's all blame Hoddle.

[Stewarton Wolf]

McCarthy should go, but its pointless sacking him with 4 games to go, he should of gone in October when despite the results the football was shocking and the writing was on the wall.

[Edgmond Wolf]

McCarthy should go, but its pointless sacking him with 4 games to go, he should of gone in October when despite the results the football was shocking and the writing was on the wall.

We still have an opportunity to get in the play - offs??

You numpty

[HIGHLANDER]

We still have an opportunity to get in the play - offs??Wake up mate it isn't going to happen.

[Edgmond Wolf]

Highlander for you it will NEVER happen

For me I will continue to believe and I will be there again on saturday willing the lads on. I suggest you stay at 'ome

[PeteWolf]

Highlander for you it will NEVER happen

For me I will continue to believe and I will be there again on saturday willing the lads on. I suggest you stay at 'ome
and what if we do get in the play-offs?

If we do we will have scraped it through an entire season of poor performances, tactical naivety and a general lack of entertainment.

The reason we're as high as we are is because this league is so awfully $$$$ at the moment thanks to other poor managers and players at other teams.

The Premier League is so far ahead of us it's painful, and going up would result in us being pitifully embarassed in the way Derby have been. We need a manager with a bit of tactical nous if we are to stay up, and McCarthy hasn't got that. If he did then we wouldn't be talking about play-offs now, last night would have been a battle for who would win the title.

At the end of the day, he isn't good enough. Thank him for what he did last season (which he should be appreciated for) and move on.

There's nothing wrong with bringing in a new manager if you think he can take us further than the man already in charge.

[Edgmond Wolf]

There's nothing wrong with bringing in a new manager if you think he can take us further than the man already in charge.

There's nothing wrong in supporting your team when we still have a chance of the play offs FFS

[PeteWolf]

Just because someone has no faith in the tactically clueless $$$$ we have as manager or the League 1/lower Championship level players he has bought in doesn't mean they don't support the team at games you know.

[saturday boy]

Just because someone has no faith in the tactically clueless $$$$ we have as manager or the League 1/lower Championship level players he has bought in doesn't mean they don't support the team at games you know.

If he has brought in league 1/lower championship level players who has been responsible for turning them into a team on the fringes of the play-offs?

[PeteWolf]

Terry Connor and Craddock.

[saturday boy]

Terry Connor and Craddock.

If I thought you meant that......

[Hollywood_wolf]

What a pointless thread, usual garbage from the usual suspects just hoping that we don'y make the play offs so that they can carry on with their usual claptrap.

I don't believe we are a sacking club and I think the team is better than 12 months ago and may better than when Mick inherited it.

Anyone who points to Hoddle's succes in finishing 7th didn't attend many of the dull, turgid, frustrating pointless games we played that season.

Mick, will in all likelihood be here in August and the disappointing thing is that there are some who will be willing us to fail, just so they can say... I told you so.

Go and support that lot down the road, Wolves are better off without you.

[PeteWolf]

the usual suspects just hoping that we don'y make the play offs so that they can carry on with their usual claptrap.
You're an idiot.

[PeteWolf]

If I thought you meant that......
To be fair, I'll say one thing for McCarthy, and that is that he's a good motivator, but he isn't clever enough to take us further. You can only win so much with huff and puff, the better teams will just come and show you up for it.

Check our record against the top 6 for proof.

[Stewarton Wolf]

What a pointless thread, usual garbage from the usual suspects just hoping that we don'y make the play offs so that they can carry on with their usual claptrap.

I don't believe we are a sacking club and I think the team is better than 12 months ago and may better than when Mick inherited it.

Anyone who points to Hoddle's succes in finishing 7th didn't attend many of the dull, turgid, frustrating pointless games we played that season.

Mick, will in all likelihood be here in August and the disappointing thing is that there are some who will be willing us to fail, just so they can say... I told you so.

Go and support that lot down the road, Wolves are better off without you.
the dull, turgid, frustrating pointless games we played that season. - And this season is different how?

[SsgWolf]

mick is the symptom.

moxey is the cause.

there is on point sacking mick only to see sammy lee get us relegated to division 1 next season.

[wolfie smith]

sorry but i like glen hoddle, if he'd stuck around and inherited the millions MM has had i doubt we'd be struggling for the play offs IMHO. a also like MM as a person but i dont like the football he plays, i dont think he is a manager who can motivate young players, i dont agree with the young and hungry approach though thats not his fault.
we lack quality and strength, if he stays will we still lack strength and quality at the end of next season.

[JR's Boots]

If only the atmosphere last night could be copied into our remaining 3 games, rather than slagging off individuals or ironically cheering when we have a shot on goal/when a player is substituted.

We may not have won last night, but it makes the players feel a whole lot $$$ better knowing we are behind them and not against them like we have been in the majority of home games this season.

The atmostphere was terrific but did it help? Several of our players completely froze, Gibson in particular. Maybe for our younger players it was too intimidating and affected their game.

[QB Wolf]

the dull, turgid, frustrating pointless games we played that season. - And this season is different how?

This season has at times been bad, which was why Tuesday was so good despite the result, but it was nowhere near as bad as that Hoddle season, the life was sucked out of the club, apathy reigned and a lot of supporters were lost. I'm not entirely convinced by McCarthy but the way he turned things round should not be under-estimated!!

[Premier Quality]

the dull, turgid, frustrating pointless games we played that season. - And this season is different how?

That under hoddle we had a big squad full of experienced international players as opposed to young up and coming ones.

The hoddle era was the worst in my time supporting wolves. That team should have run away with that division. OK he didnt spend huge amounts on transfer fees but he spent all the budget on huge wages for the likes of Anderton - forty consecutive passes to be closer to our own goal than when we started, it was really painful, with nothing to be positive about.

At least now I like some of the young players and feel we have a future.

Hoddle also waited to get his "loyalty" bonus before he buggered off and left us in the lurch. Anyone who liked him, my god - words fail me.

[OCD Wolf]

Well, if Hoddle didn't decide to walk we'd still have him now, thanks to Moxey. If I had the choice between MM and Moxey to go, it would be Moxey.
The number of screw ups he had mad is beyond belief, and yet he clings on - how?

[Premier Quality]

I dont really get the moxey thing - I agree he would have held onto hoddle which would have been a nightmare, but he got far better transfer fees for players (camara and Clarke stand out) than I expected and generally we're doing pretty well financially, if not amazingly. What more do you expect from someone in his position who handles the day to day running of the club, but not the really big decisions.

We've been run reasonably sensibly with no signs of being irresponsible like Leeds/Leicester/Southampton/Norwich etc, invested in both the academy and playing staff.

He was also involved in finding the right owner, which we have done in my view, despite the calls to jump at the first dodgy lebanese millionaire that came our way.

Things havent been perfect with the amount of communication, though the parliaments are a good step, and we're not in the premiership, though I dont think thats entirely down to him, so I dont really see why I should be anti him?

[Paul76]

yawn!!

[goldfish]

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[The Weasel]

So, in the week when we lose to our bitter local rivals and when a place in the top six has slipped out of our hands, Highlander's poll reveals a 56% level of support for McCarthy on this board - which I'd suggest is more negative than the matchgoing crowd on average. Excellent news. Glad to see the unity message is starting to hit home. Well played Highlander on this positive and informative poll. Can we have another one when we make the play-offs please?