Automatic promotion with less than 80 points

[Bend It Like Dennison]

I think it will happen this season. Anyone else think the same?? Has it ever happened before??

Tells you all you need to know about the quality in this league this season IMO.

[Mutchy]

It tells you the points are spread out more, and that there's no outstanding side.

[Stewarton Wolf]

Following season three teams relegated from Premier with lowest points totals...

[sjonnie]

It tells you the points are spread out more, and that there's no outstanding side.

It also tells you we've failed miserably this season.

[Bevan]

It tells you the points are spread out more, and that there's no outstanding side.

Very true. I think there will also be a record high number of points for a team that goes down too. The safety line is more like 55 this year than 50 in previous years.

[Law's Bus]

Tells you all you need to know about the quality in this league this season IMO.


Does it really? Or does it simply mean that all the clubs are at roughly similar levels?

By the same logic, Scottish Division 3 must have a really high quality as there's a massive gap between the top (75 pts), and the bottom (24 pts). :rolleyes:

[Big Saft Kid]

It doesn't say anything at all about the quality, in absolute terms, of the league -- just that there's no oustanding teams. IMO the general level compared with previous years is poor. Teams like Stoke and Bristol City are not very good, just the most consistent of a poor bunch, and wouldn't have got a look-in in some previous seasons.

[Brizzlewolf]

It doesn't say anything at all about the quality, in absolute terms, of the league -- just that there's no oustanding teams. IMO the general level compared with previous years is poor. Teams like Stoke and Bristol City are not very good, just the most consistent of a poor bunch, and wouldn't have got a look-in in some previous seasons.

Yes, you can't help thinking that it will be like lambs to the slaughter in Premiership for any side promoted this year..... I almost hope the Baggies go up...

[JR's Boots]

It doesn't say anything at all about the quality, in absolute terms, of the league -- just that there's no oustanding teams. IMO the general level compared with previous years is poor. Teams like Stoke and Bristol City are not very good, just the most consistent of a poor bunch, and wouldn't have got a look-in in some previous seasons.

The real indictment for McCarthy if we don't go up this season is that three really poor sides will be promoted in our place.

It will have been a horribly wasted opportunity as next season should be more difficult with the extra money the relegated teams possess.

[Mr Zuki]

The real indictment for McCarthy if we don't go up this season is that three really poor sides will be promoted in our place.

It will have been a horribly wasted opportunity as next season should be more difficult with the extra money the relegated teams possess.

It's not an indictment at all. This club is building for the future, if we did go up it would be fantastic but the reality is and always has been that promotion is not the be all and end all this season whatever the quality of teams around and above us.

[Dewsburywolf]

It doesn't say anything at all about the quality, in absolute terms, of the league -- just that there's no oustanding teams. IMO the general level compared with previous years is poor. Teams like Stoke and Bristol City are not very good, just the most consistent of a poor bunch, and wouldn't have got a look-in in some previous seasons.


Throw Hull into that mix and it really does look like a wasted oppurtunity this season. Everybody can beat anybody but there really should be a difference shouldn't there?

Hopefully a precursor to next season being the same. Kind of proves that money doesn't always buy success.

Actually it's more than that isn't it? Remember when Chelseas won the Prem for the first time, everybody said "oh but they've bought the Title" except it's not how much you spend or even who you buy but how you blend those players.

[northnorfolkwolf]

It's not an indictment at all. This club is building for the future, if we did go up it would be fantastic but the reality is and always has been that promotion is not the be all and end all this season whatever the quality of teams around and above us.
Unbelievable - 'promotion is not the be all and end all'. It bloody well is in my book. If we don't go up then this season has been a complete waste of time, especially with the money we've spent. Unbelievable!!!!

[Mr Zuki]

Unbelievable - 'promotion is not the be all and end all'. It bloody well is in my book. If we don't go up then this season has been a complete waste of time, especially with the money we've spent. Unbelievable!!!!

Well perhaps we should have taken the £30m bought some 35 yr olds with the experience to take us up and embarass ourselves when we got there. It's not like we've tried that one before is it?

What's unbeleivable is that there are so many short term thinkers on here.

The club is finally doing the right thing and you want to go back to the ridiculous promotion at all costs and hang the consequences thinking.

And as for this season being a waste of time do you think, Hennessey, Foley, Kightly, Jarvis and Ebanks-Blake would agree?

[Dewsburywolf]

Unbelievable - 'promotion is not the be all and end all'. It bloody well is in my book. If we don't go up then this season has been a complete waste of time, especially with the money we've spent. Unbelievable!!!!

Don Goodman, Tony Daley, Steve Froggatt, Ade Akinbiyi etc. etc. they all got us promoted didn't they?

Chucking money at it doesn't work people. And don't throw Dave Jones' team at me either. If that was the caes we'd have gone up Automatically not through the Play Offs a year later.

[Bahama Wolf]

Another intersting thread to revive after today's results...:cool:

[northnorfolkwolf]

Just read Dewsbury's and Zuki's response to my earlier comment that I think promotion is 'the be all and end all'. Don't know how old you guys are but I'm 56 and totally fed up with being told to wait till next season. If we don't go up the big boys will imo be in for Kightly, hennessey, SEB and possibly Jarvis.

[London Wolves]

The statto index forecasts that the Champs will get 78 points & runners up 77. Wolves can get 79 pts :)


http://www.statto.com/ratings/stattoindex.php?id=2

Wim gooin up as Champyonies! ;)

[BlahBlah]

It doesn't say anything at all about the quality, in absolute terms, of the league -- just that there's no oustanding teams. IMO the general level compared with previous years is poor. Teams like Stoke and Bristol City are not very good, just the most consistent of a poor bunch, and wouldn't have got a look-in in some previous seasons.

It's dismal...Bristol are top of the league after 42 games with a goal difference of zero. Unbelievable.

[Dewsburywolf]

It's dismal...Bristol are top of the league after 42 games with a goal difference of zero. Unbelievable.

And yet folk are saying that our inferior Goal Difference is like having a point less.

$$$$ me nobody wants to win this League, come on Wolves let's go for it.

[Tom]

I dont think there has been a decent team in this league since Reading. They were head and shoulders above anyone else in the last 5 years.

[long ball man]

To answer the orig q I think Barnsley did it in 1997 with 79 points...they went on to stay up for two seasons I think.

[dr cool]

To answer the orig q I think Barnsley did it in 1997 with 79 points...they went on to stay up for two seasons I think.

6 more wins then ...:rolleyes:

dr:cool:

[Dewsburywolf]

To answer the orig q I think Barnsley did it in 1997 with 79 points...they went on to stay up for two seasons I think.

And then went into Financial meltdown and dropped into the Third Division. :eek: Careful what you wish for guys. :(

[scottishwolf II]

As far back as I can be bothered to dig up on a hungover Sunday, as follows (I've added last play off position points)

01/02 (ahem...) Man City 99, WBA: 89 (6th: Norwich 75)
02/03: Pompey: 98, Leicester: 92 (6th: Nottingham Forest 72)
03/04: Norwich 94, WBA: 86 (6th: Crytal Palace 73)
04/05: Sunderland 94, Wigan: 87 (6th: West Ham 73)
05/06: Reading 106, Sheffield United: 90 (6th: Crystal Palace: 75)
06/07: Sunderland 88, Birmingham 86 (6th: Southampton 75)

The most anyone can finish with is 85 points this season, so no doubt its going to be a much lower bar than usual - that goes for the play offs in my view, think it'll be 70 myself.