Eastwood to Coventry loan rumour?

[Mr Sizzle]

Don't know if this has been raised before but working in Coventry, a colleague has been talking for some time about the supposed Eastwood to Coventry rumour. Thought there may have been some semblance of truth in this until it was pointed out that this now appears on Rivals:eek:. For what it is worth here is the source....
http://coventrycity.rivals.net/FORUM/pgePosts.aspx?boardId=104&clubId=27&threadId=61746&pageNumber=1

I have to say i would be very surprised if this happens...

P.S Dont shoot the messenger!!

[Wolv3nsam]

They get Eastwood and we get Kyle..

[PeteWolf]

I've been told 1 million + Kyle in the summer.
Anyone fancy a Mick love-in thread when this happens?

[Wolv3nsam]

Kyle isn't worth £500k.

[Paul76]

I hope this rumour is true. This saga Is as bad as S.Ward playing on the wing. I'm fed up with hearing about Eastwood all the time.

He takes all the headlines even though he's done nothing on the pitch to merit such coverage. For me he's becoming a destructive influence and It's all down to the minority of fans who've used him as their little pawn.

[Wolv3nsam]

I hope this rumour is true. This saga Is as bad as S.Ward playing on the wing. I'm fed up with hearing about Eastwood all the time.

He takes all the headlines even though he's done nothing on the pitch to merit such coverage. For me he's becoming a destructive influence and It's all down to the minority of fans who've used him as their little pawn.

So you would trade a proper footballer for a cart horse?

If he went he would be more of a destructive influence than if he stayed!

[Paul76]

So you would trade a proper footballer for a cart horse?

If he went he would be more of a destructive influence than if he stayed!

Where did I say anything about wanting Kyle over Eastwood? I don't care about Kyle. I don't care about Eastwood no more either! Like I said I'm sick of hearing about the chap.

And If he went he'd be exactly the same as Bothroyd.

I don't believe we'd miss him.

[Wombourne Wolf]

Coventry have to play Plymouth, Watford, Charlton and Stoke in the run in. So if he does go he could do us a favour. I'd be surprised if he is allowed to go out on loan

[Wolv3nsam]

Where did I say anything about wanting Kyle over Eastwood? I don't care about Kyle. I don't care about Eastwood no more either! Like I said I'm sick of hearing about the chap.

And If he went he'd be exactly the same as Bothroyd.

I don't believe we'd miss him.

It'd be interesting to send him out and see if he can score goals in another side if he's played week in/week out, but no way would I sell him permanently in the summer (unless his loan spell failed) and no way would I sign Kyle permanently either..

[Atlas 1951]

I could imagine that Mick scouted for possible loan deals for both Bothroyd and Eastwood, and decided on Bothroyd. Eastwood has figured as an impact player in the last two games and I don't expect he'll go anywhere until the end of the season.

[Paul76]

It'd be interesting to send him out and see if he can score goals in another side if he's played week in/week out, but no way would I sell him permanently in the summer (unless his loan spell failed) and no way would I sign Kyle permanently either..

To be honest I don't see Eastwood as a Coleman signing. I'm not sure If Eastwood will go to Coventry but It won't surprise me to see Eastwood go out on loan this week.

Morgan and Mick will not allow a rift to develop In the dressing room. The unfortunate thing Is, this "supposed" rift may not be caused by the player In question.

[Wolv3nsam]

They don't have many strikers though do they? Mifsud and Best aren't firing.. though admittedly they've scored more goals recently than Eastwood.

[wolfie smith]

coleman is welsh so he could fancy him, be a mistake to let him go at this vital time, goal machine keogh may get injured so we may need him

[Wolv3nsam]

coleman is welsh so he could fancy him, be a mistake to let him go at this vital time, goal machine keogh may get injured so we may need him

They could be preparing for life in League One next season ;)

[Wolv3nsam]

How can he sign for them when he's on international duty this week anyway?

http://coventrycity.rivals.net/FORUM/pgePosts.aspx?threadId=62069&boardId=104&clubId=27

Linked to Healy also.

[Essex Wolf]

But why would Wolves sell FE just when he is starting to make appearances which are being praised?

[UEAwolf]

MM's masterplan of a strike force consisting of Kyle Elliott and S. Ward is on target. With Collins & Breen shoring up our defence and the midfield maestro's Karl Henry & Darren Potter- PL here we come!

[Atlas 1951]

MM's masterplan of a strike force consisting of Kyle Elliott and S. Ward is on target.

Hence his decision to play SEB and Keogh up front every game, and bring on Eastwood for the last half hour.

[Paul76]

But why would Wolves sell FE just when he is starting to make appearances which are being praised?


Well they wouldn't sell Eastwood apart from If this whole situation was causing problems In the dressing room/pitch.

How long do you imagine Mick would put up with the fans singing Freddy, Freddy every time one of his strikers misses an opportunity?

I don't believe the players, manager, owner, and majority of fans want to hear this kind of thing at games.

But If It does persist then I believe the club will send Eastwood out on loan.

Hopefully after this week of debate people wont sing his name anymore unless It's justified. These fans need to understand It's not helping the kid.

Eastwood Is finally gaining praise for his performances but this minority of fans have deflected his good work In the last two games and put Eastwood In the press for all the wrong reasons.

[UEAwolf]

Its all down to McCarthy's ego again.

This happened at Sunderland and at Ireland.

Players of genuine quality when utilised and managed correctly- Bothroyd and Eastwood are kicked out and schizophrenic donkeys are preferred.

[Atlas 1951]

Well they wouldn't sell Eastwood apart from If this whole situation was causing problems In the dressing room/pitch.


Yes I bet Keogh was seething with Eastwood on Saturday after he set up his second goal.

[Paul76]

Yes I bet Keogh was seething with Eastwood on Saturday after he set up his second goal.

I'm not talking about one particular player. There are a few signs that some of the players don't get along with Eastwood and who can blame them.

Every time he goes to the E&S threating to leave unless he's played then he's losing respect In the dressing room. It's not very professional Is it?

[Atlas 1951]

I'm not talking about one particular player. There are a few signs that some of the players don't get along with Eastwood and who can blame them.


Can you give me any firm examples of this, Paul?

[kal1000]

I hope this rumour is true. This saga Is as bad as S.Ward playing on the wing. I'm fed up with hearing about Eastwood all the time.

He takes all the headlines even though he's done nothing on the pitch to merit such coverage. For me he's becoming a destructive influence and It's all down to the minority of fans who've used him as their little pawn.

You want him to go, but it has nothing to do with footballing reasons. Say he does go to Coventry, our main striker sub now becomes Kevin Kyle. Have you not seen how we play with him on the pitch, we always play the long ball and its not even effective (Watford away being the classic example).

[306NOTOUT]

Can you give me any firm examples of this, Paul?

There was a quote from a Irish newspaper a while back with some detailed examples of where this happened when he was in charge of Ireland.

Think one was the fact he left Steve Finnan out and played someone far worse and also persisted with Jason McAteer when he should have been dropped.

[Paul76]

Can you give me any firm examples of this, Paul?

My examples are just little things I've been hearing this week. Probably a load of crap but Interesting. I've seen that Eastwood didn't even celebrate one of the goals, while all the players were celebrating Eastwood was walking to the halfway line with the ball. This doesn't seem to be very positive IMO. I also heard that Collins sorta brushed him off whilst celebrating a goal.

Something seems not quite right IMO. Either way, I'll be glad when this saga is over. If that's by Eastwood scoring 20 goals or leaving I don't particularly care anymore.

[RoffeyWolf]

There was a quote from a Irish newspaper a while back with some detailed examples of where this happened when he was in charge of Ireland.

Think one was the fact he left Steve Finnan out and played someone far worse and also persisted with Jason McAteer when he should have been dropped.

Whats that got to do with Eastwood not getting on with teammates?

[Paul76]

You want him to go, but it has nothing to do with footballing reasons. Say he does go to Coventry, our main striker sub now becomes Kevin Kyle. Have you not seen how we play with him on the pitch, we always play the long ball and its not even effective (Watford away being the classic example).


Seb, Keogh, Elliot, S.Ward, and Bothroyd are Wolves players.

Kyle Is an Coventry player on loan at Wolves. I don't expect to see him next year. I do expect to see a new striker though.

[UEAwolf]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=keXWgb6m7c8


doesnt celebrate when he scores on his international debut either.

How negative! John Toshack should have subbed him!

He doesnt celebrate when he scores--maybe thats his 'celebration'

[Wolv3nsam]

Well they wouldn't sell Eastwood apart from If this whole situation was causing problems In the dressing room/pitch.

How long do you imagine Mick would put up with the fans singing Freddy, Freddy every time one of his strikers misses an opportunity?

I don't believe the players, manager, owner, and majority of fans want to hear this kind of thing at games.

But If It does persist then I believe the club will send Eastwood out on loan.

Hopefully after this week of debate people wont sing his name anymore unless It's justified. These fans need to understand It's not helping the kid.

Eastwood Is finally gaining praise for his performances but this minority of fans have deflected his good work In the last two games and put Eastwood In the press for all the wrong reasons.

It's not down to Eastwood though, it's not his fault the fans chant his name and therefore he should not be punished for it. Even Mick said on Saturday that it really embarrassed him. He is finally putting in some good performances and showing his worth, so I don't understand why we'd get rid of him right now.

[306NOTOUT]

Whats that got to do with Eastwood not getting on with teammates?

sorry I was thinking he was asking for evidence from UEAs post #20. My mistake ;)

[Wolv3nsam]

I'm not talking about one particular player. There are a few signs that some of the players don't get along with Eastwood and who can blame them.

Seemed friendly with most of them when I went to the training ground the Sunday before the Preston game, Keogh, Bothroyd, Collins and D. Ward especially. Seemed fine with SEB as well and the rest he was just mutual with - the four mentioned were the ones he was particularly friendly with and the rest were just your usual average friends you converse with.

Surprisingly enough - Ebanks-Blake looked more the one who keeps himself to himself and just gets on with it.

[Paul76]

It's not down to Eastwood though, it's not his fault the fans chant his name and therefore he should not be punished for it. Even Mick said on Saturday that it really embarrassed him. He is finally putting in some good performances and showing his worth, so I don't understand why we'd get rid of him right now.

There shouldn't be any reason to get rid of Eastwood. Like I said earlier, If their was friction being caused then I could see why Wolves would want to ship him out.

We don't know what happens behind closed doors do we? Hopefully everything Is sweet and Eastwood will carry on where he left off.

Hopefully from now on Eastwood will be in the papers for all the correct reasons. Yes, all this coverage is no fault of his own. If I was him I'd keep my head down and simply get on with my job.

[Wolv3nsam]

There shouldn't be any reason to get rid of Eastwood. Like I said earlier, If their was friction being caused then I could see why Wolves would want to ship him out.

We don't know what happens behind closed doors do we? Hopefully everything Is sweet and Eastwood will carry on where he left off.

Hopefully from now on Eastwood will be in the papers for all the correct reasons. Yes, all this coverage is no fault of his own. If I was him I'd keep my head down and simply get on with my job.

All seems rosy here...

http://www.expressandstar.com/2008/03/21/freddy-ready-for-wolves-role/

http://www.expressandstar.com/2008/03/21/im-a-better-player-now-freddy/

[UEAwolf]

This whole Eastwood situation is McCarthy's fault i'm afraid.

Yes, Keogh is a good prospect, and on current form deserves to start alongside Ebanks-Blake. However when he was misfiring a few games/weeks back and we were losing. MM's reluctance to use Eastwood (all down to MM's ego and arrogance imo) caused frustration and resentment. Eastwood, who for most of the 1st half of the season was our leading goalscorer should have started more games.

I understand the pov expressed that when Eastwood comes on he tries to do fancy flicks and takes on the whole of the opposition defence. Again this is down to MM--when you are only given 5-10 mins in a match you feel the need to do something out of the ordinary.

MM time and time again throughout his managerial career has failed at man-management. His skills in this department are almost as non-existence as his tactical abilities.

[GoldenHorseshoe]

Well they wouldn't sell Eastwood apart from If this whole situation was causing problems In the dressing room/pitch.

How long do you imagine Mick would put up with the fans singing Freddy, Freddy every time one of his strikers misses an opportunity?

I don't believe the players, manager, owner, and majority of fans want to hear this kind of thing at games.

But If It does persist then I believe the club will send Eastwood out on loan.

Hopefully after this week of debate people wont sing his name anymore unless It's justified. These fans need to understand It's not helping the kid.

Eastwood Is finally gaining praise for his performances but this minority of fans have deflected his good work In the last two games and put Eastwood In the press for all the wrong reasons.

Do you think the Freddy chants would stop if he left? Probably get worse, especially if was scoring for his new team.

[ProudWolf]

Why the $$$$ would we send him on loan now when he's a regular in our matchday squad? Are you all that thick thinking and specualting that this might actually happen!?
Biggest load of $$$$$$$$ I've read.

[Mr Sizzle]

Why the $$$$ would we send him on loan now when he's a regular in our matchday squad? Are you all that thick thinking and specualting that this might actually happen!?
Biggest load of $$$$$$$$ I've read.

Agree 100% - i think this is probably a load of old tosh. It would seem a very odd decision given that he has been more involved in the last few weeks than at any other point in recent months. This rumour has been circulating Cov for the past few weeks - how reliable i dont know. I think the fact it appears on Rivals discredits it more than anything and will just end up as yet another unsubstantiated rumour...

[stuj4z]

cov fan who was with me a mol tonight seemed to think it was a done deal as well.

if this happened there would be bloodshed, freddy has been back in contention in recent weeks, why would he go to join in a relegation fight?

[Stewarton Wolf]

cov fan who was with me a mol tonight seemed to think it was a done deal as well.

if this happened there would be bloodshed, freddy has been back in contention in recent weeks, why would he go to join in a relegation fight?
Stephen Ward must be near to full fitness. ...

[GoldenHorseshoe]

I know you don't like him, but that's a bit below the belt

[QB Wolf]

Can't see this happening Eastwood is just beginning to justify himself and pushing hard for a start, if he could just really really impress in one of his sub appearances he may get a start and then it's up to him!!

[robbeec]

According to my mate whose Dad is a well known figure within the club this deal is going through today.

[Stewarton Wolf]

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/coventry-city-fc/coventry-city-fc-news/2008/03/26/chris-coleman-targets-international-striker-92746-20674524/

[QB Wolf]

Would have been a great move in January, but a terrible one now, we shouldn't be releasing our 3rd best available striker!

[Dewsburywolf]

Can't be Freddy cos it says "he's got a good goalscoring record", no goals since August doesn't put Freddy in that category. :rolleyes:

[jbarnettuk1984]

i live in leamington and work with a load of coventry season ticket holders - they all think its a done deal. even local radio has mentioned it this morning! ... who knows...

thing is, he looked 'ok' for 30 minutes the other night, but other than that he hasn't really justified all the hype that surrounds him. For me, he is more disruptive then anyone else. Thats not down to him, but down to those morons in the southbank who chant his name. If its a choice down the line between keogh or eastwood to keep the harmony i think we all know who mick would choose.

[Reach For The Sky]

Thats not down to him, but down to those morons in the southbank who chant his name.

I bet it's the same morons who were chanting for Jody craddock when he got sent away.

McCarthy's probably still smarting from how stupid that made him look.

I want to know when Colin Cameron's coming back again.:)

[Dewsburywolf]

I want to know when Colin Cameron's coming back again.:)

Season after next with MK Dons. :rolleyes: Player/Manager

[Stewarton Wolf]

Well the SEB is triffic story is online, give it a couple of hours and the Eastwood story will be out...

[JR's Boots]

If it's true then another terrible move. We have an outside chance of the play offs and need all our strikers available. Eastwood has made a difference, even if its off the bench in the last 2 games. We've scored goals when he's been on the pitch against Scunny and QPR. The vast majority of supporters would rather see Eastwood coming on than Kyle.

I also want Cov relegated so would much rather they have Kong back than Eastwood on loan.

[Bend It Like Dennison]

We get Kyle & they get Eastwood.

Sounds very McCarthy-esque.

Its bound to happen.

[Bevan]

It makes absolutely no sense to send not only Jay, but also Freddy out on loan. This leaves us with absolutely zero quality in reserve.

Freddy to Cov in the Summer? Maybe. But can't see a loan deal happening unless we're bringing someone in.

[sjonnie]

If it happens - it would only make sense if we were getting Anelka in on loan.

But then again when did making any sense come into it?

[UEAwolf]

IF true-another terrible move by McCarthy.

As others have said Kyle for Eastwood sums up McCarthy and the style of football we have seen/are going to see unless something changes.

[18miles]

Could it be Freddy out, Thereau in?

[goldeneyed]

If Eastwood goes on loan at this vital stage in the season I have to assume that McCarthy has gone MAD. It would be the final straw as far as I am concerned.

[Law's Bus]

If so, it's not a good decision at all - even the Freddy haters seem to agree that having Kevin Kyle as the only backup is perhaps not the greatest idea the world has ever seen.

[glasgowwolf]

It'll be an awful decision.

We need 3 strikers for the run in.

If it happens this will be the fans fault, they are causing divisions within the stands and team.

I for one hope it's not true.

Freddie has now had 2 decent impacts on games.... Now is not the time to let him go.

If it does happen we will be left with 2 strikers and not much else.....

Kyle is ok if we need a big hulk up front, but he is a one trick pony.

If ever Blake or Keogh get injured we'll be $$$$ed

[The Weasel]

It'll be an awful decision.

We need 3 strikers for the run in.

If it happens this will be the fans fault, they are causing divisions within the stands and team.

I for one hope it's not true.

Freddie has now had 2 decent impacts on games.... Now is not the time to let him go.

If it does happen we will be left with 2 strikers and not much else.....

Kyle is ok if we need a big hulk up front, but he is a one trick pony.

If ever Blake or Keogh get injured we'll be $$$$ed

Don't disagree that it would be an awful decision, but presumably even Wolves would insist on a 24hr recall clause to cover for injuries...???

[Big Saft Kid]

If this deal happens, and we get a duffing at home from either Cardiff or the Albion with no goals scored, McCarthy's head will be on the block, especially if FE starts banging 'em in for Coventry, as he surely will.

The Bothroyd debacle was bad enough, but this would just make McCarthy look a complete tool.

[Jamboon]

Could it be Freddy out, Thereau in?

Louis?

[Jonzy54]

Don't disagree that it would be an awful decision, but presumably even Wolves would insist on a 24hr recall clause to cover for injuries...???
You cannot recall a player within the first month. The 24 hour rule applies once the loan has been extended. If he goes we would be cutting our noses off if we got any injuries.:mad:

[Kenny-11]

You cannot recall a player within the first month. The 24 hour rule applies once the loan has been extended. If he goes we would be cutting our noses off if we got any injuries.:mad:

How long till Jay's month ends??

[Jonzy54]

How long till Jay's month ends??
He joined them on Friday 14 March,so he will ony miss the match on Sat and would be back for Bristol City game on 12 April.

[Kenny-11]

He joined them on Friday 14 March,so he will ony miss the match on Sat and would be back for Bristol City game on 12 April.

So if we did send Freddy out, we would get by with Elliot and Kyle as back up for 2 games.

[Tuco]

Why on earth would Mick give some fans more rope to hang him with? It would also add pressure to the players who as soon as they make a rickett the freddy chants would start up.

Mind you when he signed Kyle I thought there was no way he would bring in an unfit Coventry reseve player in, but he did.

He'd already decided Bothroyd wasn't good enough even for the bench, but as FE is still making that, plus he has added something to the team in his sub performances it won't happen.

[Jonzy54]

So if we did send Freddy out, we would get by with Elliot and Kyle as back up for 2 games.
Only 1 game because we don't play a week on Saturday.

[Jamboon]

Freddy has come on in the last couple of games and had an impact. He's seems to be keen to play at the moment and is challenging for a start and If SEB and Keogh were not playing then he might have had one. I'd be disappointed if he went out it could go either way.

1. Having him gone means MM will not be under pressure to play him and the team starts to play with more confidence.

2. As soon as something goes wrong and we fail to score the chants will still come out but MM will have no way of silencing them by bringing him on.

[Kenny-11]

Only 1 game because we don't play a week on Saturday.

Ok. So Keogh and SEB seem ok now. If they got a knock before the Bristol game then a match fit Jay could step into their place.

[GoldenHorseshoe]

Brilliant Kenny, whay a genius that McCarthy is.

[Paul76]

I've posted these stats On the other Freddy forum!

This post is courtesy of Brereton Wolf.

Breretonwolf said:



45, Big Wolf. Not rue, I’m afraid. That would give eastwood only five starts. In actual fact:-
Bradford (Carling Cup): 90 mins, 1 goal
Sheffield Wed: 88 mins, 1 goal
Blackpool: 90 mins, 2 goals
Morecambe (Carling Cup): 90 mins, 0 goals
Stoke: 85 mins, 0 goals
Sheff Utd: 2 mins, 0 goals (SUB - rested after his international exhaustion)
Hull: 90 mins, 0 goals (straight back in)
(missed next few games – after being dropped for being appalling, but we weren’t bad in his absense)
Leicester: 23 mins, 0 goals (SUB)
Coventry: 45 mins, 0 goals (SUB)
(dropped and missed Charlton after playing poorly – and we won)
Cardiff: 39 mins, 0 goals (SUB)
Ipswich: 45 mins, 0 goals (STARTED – we were appalling)
Bristol City: 6 mins, 0 goals (drawn)
Southampton: 90 mins, 0 goals (drawn)
Barnsley: 90 mins, 0 goals (won)
WBA: 29 mins, 0 goals (drawn!) (SUB – we played 4-5-1, dropped for excellent tactical reasons, and immediately reinstated for the next game)
Colchester: 90mins, 0 goals (won)
Preston: 85 mins, 0 goals (won)
Barnsley: 23 mins, 0 goals (lost – dropped after playing poorly)
Burnley: 30 mins, 0 goals (lost)
(unused sub against QPR)
Leicester: 45 mins, 0 goals (drawn)
Hull: 69 mins, 0 goals (lost) (STARTED, then dropped)
(missed Norwich – we played much better and drew)
Sheffield Utd: 13 mins, 0 goals (drawn)
Cambridge Utd: 45 mins, 0 goals (SUB)
Crystal Palace: 37 mins, 0 goals (SUB)
(missed Scunthorpe – which we won)
No starts since these stats, I admit, and only bits in some.
So:
0-15 minute cameos: 3 appearances, total 8 mins 0.6%
25-30 minute chances: 4 appearances, total 105 mins 7.9%
35-45 minute half games: 6 appearances, total 256 mins 19.3%
65+ minute whole games: 11 appearances, total 957 mins (i.e. 72.2%)
So, the cameos take up less than 1%, the ‘half-hour chasing the game’ less than 10% - and the full scale games more than 70% of his time.
He has only been dropped after very poor performances (both games against Hull, the Coventry game) and for the WBA game, where we shifted tactically to a 4-5-1, and after that game he was immediately reinstated in the starting line-up for the Colchester game.
So, who’s telling the truth? Please, people, don’t be blinded by what you THINK is going on, instead look at the facts. I know they’re annoying, but they’re the facts…. He hasn’t been used for little cameos much, he hasn’t been dropped ‘unfairly’ even once, and he’s been given a very good crack at it on many occassions.
I like Freddy, and I want him to succeed - but don’t think that he hasn’t because he hasn’t been given a good crack at it!

[Kenny-11]

Brilliant Kenny, whay a genius that McCarthy is.

Not saying it is a good or bad idea. Just looking at the options if it happens

[wallace]

perhaps mick does know what hes doing and stewarton is just misleading in some of his moans?

[dazmanwolf]

Eastwood - Good enough to score at international level, but not for us!

How bizarre is that? ;)

[jbarnettuk1984]

one of my best friends works at a pub just outside of warwick.
he text me last night saying chris coleman had just walked in and ordered a pint! i text back asking him to ask about freddie eastwood.
apparantly he just smiled and winked... make of that what you will (and this is a true story).

[Taffywolf]

Freddy had a good game for wales last night, He had 2 chances and scored 2 goals. He linked play well and held the ball up well. He also worked very hard as a couple of times chased back to the edge of the Wales box.

[wallace]

seems micks got 3 in form strikers on his hands at the moment, so which 2 are the best partnership on saturday?

[Mutchy]

Eastwood - Good enough to score at international level, but not for us!

How bizarre is that? ;)

Interesting to note that Wales seem to be anything but a happy camp at the moment, and that John Toshack is said to have more than his fair share of personality clashes with his players.

[Elephant Pyjamas]

seems micks got 3 in form strikers on his hands at the moment, so which 2 are the best partnership on saturday?

Keogh and SEB.

I think we will probably play 4-5-1 though. With Keogh out wide.

[goldeneyed]

Keogh and SEB.

I think we will probably play 4-5-1 though. With Keogh out wide.

We have Gray and Jarvis out wide. Keogh if he plays should operate just behind SEB and link play he is useless as a 'winger'. Personally I would go for Eastwood and SEB up front and a 4-2 win but that is not dour 'grind em out' Mick's way.What an inspirational season this has been under him. What a joy we are to watch.

[QB Wolf]

We have Gray and Jarvis out wide. Keogh if he plays should operate just behind SEB and link play he is useless as a 'winger'. Personally I would go for Eastwood and SEB up front and a 4-2 win but that is not dour 'grind em out' Mick's way.What an inspirational season this has been under him. What a joy we are to watch.

So you'd drop Keogh, after scoring 2 goals in the last game, I'm sure there's some logic in there somewhere!!

[Essex Wolf]

I would sincerely hope after Eastwood scored twice last night any talk of him now being loaned out is forgotten. If he is to go, although I don't want him to, I would hope it was a sale that makes Wolves some money.

[goldeneyed]

Let's see whether with Freddie breathing down his neck Keogh can come up with the goods against Charlton. I still rate SEB and Eastwood as our best attacking threat and if we are going to fail I would like us to at least try and attack other teams - hoping to nick a 1-0 is McCarthy's way but with poor CBs we don't imv have the defensive ability to achieve this. In any case we have had enough deadly dull negative football from our team this season.

[Essex Wolf]

Let's see whether with Freddie breathing down his neck Keogh can come up with the goods against Charlton. I still rate SEB and Eastwood as our best attacking threat and if we are going to fail I would like us to at least try and attack other teams - hoping to nick a 1-0 is McCarthy's way but with poor CBs we don't imv have the defensive ability to achieve this. In any case we have had enough deadly dull negative football from our team this season.

Fair comments GE and your point re the defence is one that has been mentioned so many times before.

McCarthy has made more than the odd mess up this season but his odd reluctance to resolve the glaringly obvious defensive frailties is one of his biggest and could still yet prove most costly.

[seawolf]

Eastwood - Good enough to score at international level, but not for us!

How bizarre is that? ;)

Wales v Luxembourg, surely that would be equivalent to the conference :p

[HSV Wolf]

Gaunty on TalkSport just been crowing about a major new striker signing on loan for Coventry this afternoon.......

Kyle for Freddy Eastwood.........yer 'avin a larf

[Netherton Wolf]

http://www.plymouth.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=104474
http://www.coventrycity-mad.co.uk/news/loadnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=384739

According to these sites its fallen through!

[QB Wolf]

Eastwood wants to stay and fight for his place perhaps?

[Essex Wolf]

Eastwood wants to stay and fight for his place perhaps?

And if he does good on him but will MM ever be prepared to give him his chance, IE starting a few games with a regular strike partner?

[QB Wolf]

And if he does good on him but will MM ever be prepared to give him his chance, IE starting a few games with a regular strike partner?

I'm pretty sure he will, when/if the current two stop performing.

[Rhoswolf]

Being reported on another site that the Coventry deal has fallen through and it wasn't Eastwood anyway. Hope that's correct, can't believe even MM was stupid enough to countenance such a move at this stage of the season.

[Bend It Like Dennison]

can't believe even MM was stupid enough

:confused:

Really??

;)

[High as a Kightly]

Being reported on another site that the Coventry deal has fallen through and it wasn't Eastwood anyway. Hope that's correct, can't believe even MM was stupid enough to countenance such a move at this stage of the season.


http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/coventry-city-fc/coventry-city-fc-news/2008/03/27/coventry-city-s-loan-deal-for-top-striker-collapses-92746-20680057/

[JR's Boots]

It's been reported in the Coventry Evening Telegraph that a loan deal had failed but didn't mention who it was. The Cov fans that I spoke to were convinced it was Eastwood though.

[Paul76]

Being reported on another site that the Coventry deal has fallen through and it wasn't Eastwood anyway. Hope that's correct, can't believe even MM was stupid enough to countenance such a move at this stage of the season.

Didn't this rumour originate from Vital In the first place? There was probably never nothing In the story anyway.

[High as a Kightly]

It's been reported in the Coventry Evening Telegraph that a loan deal had failed but didn't mention who it was. The Cov fans that I spoke to were convinced it was Eastwood though.

See above.

[fielden05]

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/coventry-city-fc/coventry-city-fc-news/tm_headline=freddy-eastwood-deal-collapses-at-11th-hour&method=full&objectid=20682736&siteid=92746-name_page.html

[UEAwolf]

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/coventry-city-fc/coventry-city-fc-news/tm_headline=freddy-eastwood-deal-collapses-at-11th-hour&method=full&objectid=20682736&siteid=92746-name_page.html

Very interesting.

[kidder_wolf_II]

Very interesting.

Not really. $$$$ poor reporting if you ask me.

"There had been a sticking point in the loan agreement earlier in the week when Wolves insisted that Eastwood could not play for City when they meet Wolves at the Ricoh Arena on April 26.
City originally refused the request but relented to try to push the deal through. Despite this Wolves changed their mind at the last minute and refused to sanction the loan."

No Loan player can play against the club they have been loaned from so why would coventry reject our request for Eastwood not to play against us.

Not sure if i believe this story tbf

[Netherton Wolf]

If this is true, Wolves have made a terrible decision in even considering this, unless Eastwood dug his heels in and has demanded to go!

[jbarnettuk1984]

"The news has left Sky Blues boss Chris Coleman fuming. He refused to confirm the club involved but said they had acted in an "appalling manner"

well... i wonder what everyone will make of THAT.

[No. 7 George Bowen]

Problem is this is all hearsay and conjecture.

I like Eastwood personally despite the fact he hasn't really performed and I would keep him...but there might be/have been issues we don't know about. It might be case of Nugent in for £4m only if Eastwood went out for £2m (something I would agree with).

All speculation (the last bit completely made up as alot will be, by me rather than journalist in this case) at the end of the day and I hope the usual suspects stop using Freddy as object in their own vendettas. Both he and Mick have careers that I hope they are successful in, not only as it would benefit Wolves, which these people aren't helping with, you know who you are you bitter losers.

[Wolv3nsam]

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/coventry-city-fc/coventry-city-fc-news/tm_headline=freddy-eastwood-deal-collapses-at-11th-hour&method=full&objectid=20682736&siteid=92746-name_page.html

I can't believe the club even considered this providing it is true.

This is the same paper that said McShefferey moving back to Coventry was a done deal. Could be Coventry's version of the Express & Star.

[hollo]

The rumours are true. When i read about them on this thread i asked someone i know who is in a position to know and they said that coventry were excited about eastwood coming. My source had spoken to a few people within the club. It's 100% true.

[Kenny-11]

The rumours are true. When i read about them on this thread i asked someone i know who is in a position to know and they said that coventry were excited about eastwood coming. My source had spoken to a few people within the club. It's 100% true.

Name names or its just a load of $$$$$$$$. I can post I asked someone who knows someone who knows the bloke at the club $$$$.

[JR's Boots]

The rumours are true. When i read about them on this thread i asked someone i know who is in a position to know and they said that coventry were excited about eastwood coming. My source had spoken to a few people within the club. It's 100% true.

I doubt we'll ever know but it would be interesting to find out.

1) Why the hell the club opened up talks with Coventry to begin with and then..
2) Stopped the loan proceeding at the last moment.

Either way this can only unsettle a player who was starting to show some form again.

[Wolv3nsam]

The rumours are true. When i read about them on this thread i asked someone i know who is in a position to know and they said that coventry were excited about eastwood coming. My source had spoken to a few people within the club. It's 100% true.

I know a man at the local boozer where Jez Moxey drinks and apparently when Moxey was drunk one night he let a transfer slip, Wolves were going to buy David Nugent for 50p and a penny chew.

We can all sound convincing..

[Dougan was king]

well we all now know now next seasons plans Get rid of Eastwood. kyle,Elliot and Stephen Ward ready to play you know what mick wants no quality but putting a shift in.

[hollo]

Name names or its just a load of $$$$$$$$. I can post I asked someone who knows someone who knows the bloke at the club $$$$.
I didn't want to give away my source that's all but you've met me and you know that i'm on the level. I go to the trouble of writing reserve reports up on here for you guys and i'm not the type of character to make things up and mislead you. That scunforce poster mislead me about billy sharp and i was upset about that. I wouldn't do that to other posters who rely on what is written here for their information.

[Kenny-11]

I didn't want to give away my source .

I'll treat it as $$$$$$$$ then

[Wolv3nsam]

I didn't want to give away my source that's all but you've met me and you know that i'm on the level. I go to the trouble of writing reserve reports up on here for you guys and i'm not the type of character to make things up and mislead you. That scunforce poster mislead me about billy sharp and i was upset about that. I wouldn't do that to other posters who rely on what is written here for their information.

Why would we pull out last minute then? Our club is a lot of things, but I wouldn't say it's one that goes back on its word.

[The Weasel]

I doubt we'll ever know but it would be interesting to find out.

1) Why the hell the club opened up talks with Coventry to begin with and then..
2) Stopped the loan proceeding at the last moment.

Either way this can only unsettle a player who was starting to show some form again.

Unless of course the player himself asked for the loan deal to get some football before Mick played him for two consecutive 30 min run-outs and convinced him his chance would come if he kept on impressing like that from the bench. The current strike partnership are on form and doing what's asked of them. Maybe FE thought he wasn't going to get a fair crack of the whip and now realises he will, but that his chance will come when one of the existing strikers has a dip in form/injury/sending off...

[goldeneyed]

If as it seems there is some truth in this McCarthy really is a complete blithering idiot. I want him out this summer.

[The Weasel]

I'll treat it as $$$$$$$$ then

I'd say hollo is one of the more credible posters on here, and believe me I'd prefer this story not to be true.

[Big Mack]

To be fair to Hollo, he's usually right about these rumours, so give him a break. Besides which, this deal looks like it was on the cards.

Eastwood and Bothroyd out in the summer then. Which other five strikers can we sign to make up for it?

[Wolv3nsam]

Unless of course the player himself asked for the loan deal to get some football before Mick played him for two consecutive 30 min run-outs and convinced him his chance would come if he kept on impressing like that from the bench. The current strike partnership are on form and doing what's asked of them. Maybe FE thought he wasn't going to get a fair crack of the whip and now realises he will, but that his chance will come when one of the existing strikers has a dip in form/injury/sending off...

If we did send Eastwood on loan we'd only have had Kyle as a bench option!

Thrilling..

[Oldgold Wolfcub]

I'll treat it as $$$$$$$$ then
You do with everything else so why should this be different.
hollo is one of the more informative contributors and is worth taking his views into account. That does not mean that everything he says is true but I do think he believes it has merit.

[Atlas 1951]

It's now been reported in the E and S, furnished with quotations. Looks like they would have recouped their initial outlay, but I hope that Wolves' pulling out means that Eastwood is in Mick's future plans.

[Wolv3nsam]

It's now been reported in the E and S, furnished with quotations. Looks like they would have recouped their initial outlay, but I hope that Wolves' pulling out means that Eastwood is in Mick's future plans.

Fantastic, that means there will now be more of a vendetta against Mick!

[QB Wolf]

This deal was discussed in the January window and at that point a lot of fans wouldn't have been bothered, he was 5th choich and going nowhere, since then he's moved himself up the pecking order and fair play to him.

Coventry have tried to resuurect the deal, and something has changed over the last month or so, Eastwood has decided to act like an adult and MM is giving him a fair crack. No wonder the deal has collapsed both Eastwood and MM should be applauded as far as I'm concerned.

[Tuco]

Haven't they just cut and pasted that from the cov telegraph report, now that's journalism.

Who on here or the old board used to do that on his own website, cut and paste from the official website, and used to take all manner of stick about it?

[Wolv3nsam]

This deal was discussed in the January window and at that point a lot of fans wouldn't have been bothered, he was 5th choich and going nowhere, since then he's moved himself up the pecking order and fair play to him.

Coventry have tried to resuurect the deal, and something has changed over the last month or so, Eastwood has decided to act like an adult and MM is giving him a fair crack. No wonder the deal has collapsed both Eastwood and MM should be applauded as far as I'm concerned.

That sounds far more likely.

[The Weasel]

If we did send Eastwood on loan we'd only have had Kyle as a bench option!

Thrilling..

I thought Elliot and Ward were now fit again? And Jay is recallable after one more match...

[Atlas 1951]

I haven't read the Coventry Telegraph report but the E and S one names Eastwood, a 1.5m - 2m a prospective permanent deal in the summe, and that Wolves pulled out.

[The Weasel]

So does the Cov Telegraph report, but none of the quotes mentioned confirm the player/club details are correct.

[Wolv3nsam]

I thought Elliot and Ward were now fit again? And Jay is recallable after one more match...

Ward isn't fit, not so sure about Elliot and I wasn't aware of Jay being recallable.

[Grizzled Wolf]

http://www.expressandstar.com/2008/03/27/eastwood-was-close-to-coventry-deal/

It seems true enough...Now what would MM go and do a thing like that for? Either he was trying to nip all this Freddy/Keogh nonesense in the bud..which actually would only make it worse.

Or he has some other ulterior motive which involves the slashing of wrists with a wet noodle!! Definitely beyond normal comprehension!!!

[Wolv3nsam]

http://www.expressandstar.com/2008/03/27/eastwood-was-close-to-coventry-deal/

It seems true enough

Oh the irony..

[goldeneyed]

I find it extraordinary that at this crucial point in the season McCarthy (Eastwood hater though he is) actually contemplated this deal. It confirms that he would rather stick to inferior players like Ward, Elliott and Kyle in the future. What would have happened if SEB or Keogh had been injured at Charlton? Would Kyle or Elliott have been drafted in for the rest of the season? Or has the brilliant Ward now recovered allowing MM the luxury of getting rid of our one other creative forward (after Bothroyd).

McCarthy is doing everything he can to alienate Eastwood and seemingly would rather die than give him a start in a match. This farce can only end with McCarthy being sacked but the sad truth is that Eastwood will be sold and McCarthy will still be here next season with his band of useless favourites. I would just love to see Eastwood score now and ram the goal up Mccarthy's ar*e, as it were.

Otherwise all is well.

[QB Wolf]

http://www.expressandstar.com/2008/03/27/eastwood-was-close-to-coventry-deal/

It seems true enough...Now what would MM go and do a thing like that for? !

Mmm interesting, Eastwood is having a 'mare at the club, he's told he can go to Coventry, he thinks oh ****, deciddes to knuckle down and makes two pretty good sub appearances. A master stroke by MM perhaps!!

[QB Wolf]

I find it extraordinary that at this crucial point in the season McCarthy (Eastwood hater though he is) actually contemplated this deal. It confirms that he would rather stick to inferior players like Ward, Elliott and Kyle in the future. What would have happened if SEB or Keogh had been injured at Charlton? Would Kyle or Elliott have been drafted in for the rest of the season? Or has the brilliant Ward now recovered allowing MM the luxury of getting rid of our one other creative forward (after Bothroyd).

McCarthy is doing everything he can to alienate Eastwood and seemingly would rather die than give him a start in a match. This farce can only end with McCarthy being sacked but the sad truth is that Eastwood will be sold and McCarthy will still be here next season with his band of useless favourites. I would just love to see Eastwood score now and ram the goal up Mccarthy's ar*e, as it were.

Otherwise all is well.

Why didn't he bring Kyle on before Eastwood in the last 2 games if any of this was true?

[Atlas 1951]

So does the Cov Telegraph report, but none of the quotes mentioned confirm the player/club details are correct.

You are quite correct, Weasel.

[Wolv3nsam]

So does the Cov Telegraph report, but none of the quotes mentioned confirm the player/club details are correct.

They were after David Healy on loan as well apparently so what's saying he wasn't the centre of a collapsed deal?

[jabbawolf]

Mmm interesting, Eastwood is having a 'mare at the club, he's told he can go to Coventry, he thinks oh ****, deciddes to knuckle down and makes two pretty good sub appearances. A master stroke by MM perhaps!!

Threatening Freddy with Coventry was a masterstroke by McCarthy - I don't think any other club in the Championship could have had such a profound effect on a player than the Sky Blues, who punched above their weight for a bit and think they should be in the Prem, and have a plastic ground closer to Nuneaton than Cov.

[SaleWolf]

Just confirms not that we needed it that Mick Mccarthy is completely clueless.

Getting rid of Eastwood would have been a ridiculous move born out of inept management and poor decision making.

[goldeneyed]

Why didn't he bring Kyle on before Eastwood in the last 2 games if any of this was true?

Why does McCarthy do anything? He will probably drop Eastwood from the 16 altogether now. Perhaps even he can see that Kyle is a last 10 minute merchant at most.

[Rhoswolf]

Trying to remain positive till the end of season, but if this is true I now fear even more for next season if MM is still in charge. Once the play-offs are mathematically out of reach I'd like to see SM take decisive action and get rid of MM immediately, certainly before he's able to give a contract to Kevin Kyle or any other player of his ilk.

[Langdale Wolf]

McCarthy is doing everything he can to alienate Eastwood and seemingly would rather die than give him a start in a match. This farce can only end with McCarthy being sacked but the sad truth is that Eastwood will be sold and McCarthy will still be here next season with his band of useless favourites. I would just love to see Eastwood score now and ram the goal up Mccarthy's ar*e, as it were.

Otherwise all is well.


Absolute tosh.

Though for what it's worth, I too would love to see Freddy score. And believe it or not, I think Mick would as well.

[Dewsburywolf]

This deal was discussed in the January window and at that point a lot of fans wouldn't have been bothered, he was 5th choich and going nowhere, since then he's moved himself up the pecking order and fair play to him.

Coventry have tried to resuurect the deal, and something has changed over the last month or so, Eastwood has decided to act like an adult and MM is giving him a fair crack. No wonder the deal has collapsed both Eastwood and MM should be applauded as far as I'm concerned.

And the Loan Window shuts in 15 minutes is it? They needed a Striker cos Best's injured so having made the initial approach and kind of getting the thumbs up in January they tried again. Eastwood's played himself back into favour now so as said "thanks but no thanks" no fall out with MM, no truth in rumours of a transfer in the Summer. Eastwood's staying so let's put all the $$$$ to bed and concentrate on the remaining games.

[Wolv3nsam]

http://www.coventryobserver.co.uk/ccfc39446.html

I wouldn't say it was us, they were after David Healy who is a PROVEN international goalscorer. I wouldn't put Freddy in this category as he's only played a handful of games and after August had not scored for Wales for ages.

[Mr Sizzle]

http://www.coventryobserver.co.uk/ccfc39446.html

I wouldn't say it was us, they were after David Healy who is a PROVEN international goalscorer. I wouldn't put Freddy in this category as he's only played a handful of games and after August had not scored for Wales for ages.

".........in this case pushing for promotion through the play offs" Coleman.

Narrows it down somewhat - not that it really matters now..

[Wolv3nsam]

However if it is Freddy, Coleman said he's not going to pursue his interest in the summer because of the way the club pulled the plug. Still don't reckon it is him though because he's not a proven international goalscorer by any stretch of the imagination.. he only made his debut last August.

Though the article says the striker scored for his country last night.. it's down to Healy or Eastwood I think.

[Netherton Wolf]

Though the article says the striker scored for his country last night.. it's down to Healy or Eastwood I think.[/QUOTE]


Kyle Lafferty also scored and Burnley are pushing for promotion! although why anyone would want to be sent to Coventry is beyond me!!!

[Wolv3nsam]

Club is chasing promotion via play-offs and said striker scored for his country last night.. has to be Freddy surely.

However, Coleman is considering legal action against whatever club it is, he may as well have named names because he's pretty much given away who it is anyway.

[jrpb-3]

http://www.expressandstar.com/2008/03/27/eastwood-was-close-to-coventry-deal/

Confirmation is was Freddy. The deals off now apparently

[Wolv3nsam]

I could hazard a guess as to what will happen in the summer - bye bye Freddy Eastwood, hello Billy Sharp.

[Big Saft Kid]

Probably the best bit of news McCarthy has had in a long time, probably without him intending it. If FE had gone on loan, I really think there would have been hell to pay, so p$$$ed off have people become with McCarthy's loan dealings and general idiocy.

[ProudWolf]

It's clear what will probably happen in the summer - bye bye Freddy Eastwood, hello Billy Sharp.

Why do you always compare Sharp to Eastwood? Totally different strikers. Sharp is much more like Elliott and Ebanks-Blake in the way that they play the game. However we now have the best of the lot leading our frontline so it's all worked out well.

[Stewarton Wolf]

It was definitely Freddy - and someone above McCarthy pulled the plug. I wonder why?

I would say that's curtains for McCarthy at the end of the season. Somebody has been meddling in team affairs, to protect the club from McCarthy.

[Big Saft Kid]

It was definitely Freddy - and someone above McCarthy pulled the plug. I wonder why?

Vote of no confidence? If so, more power to whoever's elbow it was. Morgan? I can't believe Moxey would have done it.

[Wolv3nsam]

As someone mentioned earlier in this thread maybe we had a replacement lined up and our deal fell through. Either that or clearly the board want Eastwood to stay and are saving him for a new manager? Who knows.

[Netherton Wolf]

sad news for Wolves, freddy wanted to go, Mick was happy with him going, Morgan/Moxey pulled the plug!

[Wolv3nsam]

sad news for Wolves, freddy wanted to go, Mick was happy with him going, Morgan/Moxey pulled the plug!

They evidently have little confidence in McCarthy's judgement should that be the case then. Of course Freddy wanted to go as it would be guaranteed first team football every week - Mick was probably happy with him going as there's enough cover in the striking department and clearly Eastwood isn't cutting the mustard for him.

Morgan privately to Freddy: "Stick around, the new manager will rate you and this buffoon will be gone the end of the season anyway".

What surprises me is that a deal for Kyle wasn't incorporated, perhaps we're not going to sign him after all.

[jrpb-3]

Vote of no confidence? If so, more power to whoever's elbow it was. Morgan? I can't believe Moxey would have done it.

Why negotiate for 10 days and wait until terms have been agreed before pulling the plug though ??

[Wolv3nsam]

Why negotiate for 10 days and wait until terms have been agreed before pulling the plug though ??

Last minute thoughts - for starters some of the fans wouldn't have been very happy.

[The Weasel]

It was definitely Freddy - and someone above McCarthy pulled the plug.

Source?

[Wolv3nsam]

Source?

Coleman said in an article that the striker scored last night for his country and belongs to a club chasing promotion via the play-offs. He also said the player and manager were fantastic and it was the board who pulled the plug at the last minute.

At first I thought it was Healy as Coleman describes the player as a proven international goalscorer but he's at Fulham who are not chasing promotion. It can't be anybody else e.g. Lafferty as they are playing for their clubs on a regular basis - Freddy isn't.

If it is Freddy (100% confident it is) then our club may release a statement (or Freddy will go to the local rag again), who knows, the article is here anyway:

http://www.coventryobserver.co.uk/ccfc39446.html

[Kenny-11]

You do with everything else so why should this be different.
hollo is one of the more informative contributors and is worth taking his views into account. That does not mean that everything he says is true but I do think he believes it has merit.

I'm not having a go at Hollo. I know the guy. I do not doubt he feels the source is credible but I have decided to treat it as $$$$$$$$, especially after a radio station ended their coverage of this story by saying that Coventry are hopefull to conclude this deal regardless of this hitch and Healy will join them. So I will treat both as $$$$$$$$ until one is confirmed by club/player/agent

[jrpb-3]

Last minute thoughts - for starters some of the fans wouldn't have been very happy.

I'd hope they'd know that before they started negotiations

maybe whooever it was was hoping the deal would fall through anyway so they wouldn't be seen to be undermining the manager and when it didn't stepped in

Maybe Mick changed his mind I guess we'll probably never know.

But it can't be good for the club if the deal was pulled without the manager being consulted/agreeing with the decision

Anyway it is only a quote from coleman in the E&S article that says the manager was happy with the deal, so how much truth there is in that who knows

[Wolv3nsam]

However, you have to question Coleman for dubbing Eastwood a proven international goalscorer - surely a proven international goalscorer is someone like Healy or Owen, not Eastwood who has only made 7 appearances for his country, it's only really that fact which makes me wonder if it is him - but who else could it possibly be?

[kal1000]

However, you have to question Coleman for dubbing Eastwood a proven international goalscorer - surely a proven international goalscorer is someone like Healy or Owen, not Eastwood who has only made 7 appearances for his country.

It just to excite the fans, Niall Quinn said Roy Keane was a 'World Class Manager' before he was appointed.

[Kenny-11]

All I can see is that Coventry announced they would sign a player. Folk on the internet get a rumour going (not hard ask Vital Football for more info). Coventry announce deal falls through. Papers use the rumours to match the story, inc comments that make no sense - such as deal hit a barrier when the player wasn't allowed to face his owning club, despite that being a loan rule. ANothe rpaper copies the story.

Rumour builds and builds and builds

Until either the clubs involved say who it was, or the player or his agent then everyone is getting wound up over $$$$ all

[Wolv3nsam]

All I can see is that Coventry announced they would sign a player. Folk on the internet get a rumour going (not hard ask Vital Football for more info). Coventry announce deal falls through. Papers use the rumours to match the story, inc comments that make no sense - such as deal hit a barrier when the player wasn't allowed to face his owning club, despite that being a loan rule. ANothe rpaper copies the story.

Rumour builds and builds and builds

Until either the clubs involved say who it was, or the player or his agent then everyone is getting wound up over $$$$ all

The article I posted a link to has quotes from Coleman himself and they seem pretty legit to me.

[Kenny-11]

The article I posted a link to has quotes from Coleman himself and they seem pretty legit to me.

Is a player named??

[Wolv3nsam]

Is a player named??

No, but who else scored for their country last night and is apart of a promotion chasing club who's manager would be willing to let him go? Lafferty is getting regular games for Burnley and now I'm struggling to think of one except Eastwood..

[JR's Boots]

I noticed Coleman didn't bother to take Kyle back even though his grotty club have only the the Maltese dwarf and an injured Leon Best. Tells you all you need to know about that carthorse.

If Freddy had gone to Cov then they would have had our current Welsh international fresh from scoring for his country and we would have had their talentless non league mule postering as a striker.

Madness.

[Atlas 1951]

I noticed Coleman didn't bother to take Kyle back even though his grotty club have only the the Maltese dwarf and an injured Leon Best. Tells you all you need to know about that carthorse.


That is a very good point.

[Wolv3nsam]

JR, I believe Kyle can't be recalled from his loan spell anyway, otherwise Coleman would probably recall him to $$$$ Mick and the board off - even though Mick has had nothing to do with this (pulling the plug I mean).

[Kenny-11]

No, but who else scored for their country last night and is apart of a promotion chasing club who's manager would be willing to let him go? Lafferty is getting regular games for Burnley and now I'm struggling to think of one except Eastwood..

Ok, so if it is Freddie. I will wait for the club to reveal what happened ( I don't expect it though)

I think I must be mellowing because I just can't wound up by the fact that it may have been Freddy.

[Rhoswolf]

It seems pretty clear it was Eastwood and for some reason the plug was pulled at the last minute, suggesting it wasn't MM but somebody with power to over-rule. Speculation, I know, but until the club issue a statement the rumours will continue, as, in all likelihood they will, even if a statement is made.

Assuming it was Eastwood, if MM pulled the plug then it doesn't show him in a good light, if the board then MM has clearly lost their support. Either way doesn't look good for the manager.

[JR's Boots]

JR, I believe Kyle can't be recalled from his loan spell anyway, otherwise Coleman would probably recall him to $$$$ Mick and the board off - even though Mick has had nothing to do with this.

Wolv3nsam

I'm sure that the loan can't be ended for the first month but after that there is a automatic recall option that the registration club can apply.

The only people hacked off by his being sent to Cov would be their own supporters who can't stand the bloke for his on and off the field conduct. They're good judges of character if you ask me.:rolleyes:

[Wolv3nsam]

IMO the board pulled the plug due to a lack of trust in Mick, I think Morgan rates Freddy personally. He went out of his way to send a private jet over to pick him and Wayne up and issued a statement a month or two ago saying Freddy will come good eventually. If you ask me he was the one who pulled the plug.

It's a bit like an Abramovich-Shevchenko situation but perhaps not that extreme, one thing's for sure though I think Mick is walking a tight rope with this board right now.

[wallace]

hate the kind of statement coleman has made. if your going to say as much as he has, why not name the names rather than cause speculation among other clubs. if he feels it may affect deals in the future he shouldnt comment other than a deal had not come off when at an advanced stage.

[Kenny-11]

Coventry have signed a stirker (Hanes) from West Ham on loan.

[Wolv3nsam]

Wolv3nsam

I'm sure that the loan can't be ended for the first month but after that there is a automatic recall option that the registration club can apply.

The only people hacked off by his being sent to Cov would be their own supporters who can't stand the bloke for his on and off the field conduct. They're good judges of character if you ask me.:rolleyes:

Ah I see, I thought I read somewhere he couldn't be recalled - obviously not though.

If Coleman is really that $$$$ed off at us he can feel free to recall Kyle for all I care - I personally wouldn't stand in his way!

[Kenny-11]

Ah I see, I thought I read somewhere he couldn't be recalled - obviously not though.

If Coleman is really that $$$$ed off at us he can feel free to recall Kyle for all I care - I personally wouldn't stand in his way!

Maybe he was going to recall him but then got angry and decided we can keep Kyle as punishment for pulling the plug

[Atlas 1951]

JR, I believe Kyle can't be recalled from his loan spell anyway, otherwise Coleman would probably recall him to $$$$ Mick and the board off - even though Mick has had nothing to do with this.

In that case it wasn't a very good point. Boo! Boo! JR's Boots. Boo!

[Wolv3nsam]

Needless to say their fans are livid (even though as Kenny said no names have been named - but it all points to Eastwood if you ask me) and are planning their revenge which involves either:

a) Recalling Kyle
b) Them dicking us at their place and $$$$ing up our play-off hopes

The only way this can be resolved is if our club makes a statement - but if the plug was pulled due to lack of faith in the manager they obviously need to think up a good lie first.

(Keegan voice) I'd love it JUST LOVE IT if Eastwood scored at the Ricoh and relegated their arses :D

[JR's Boots]

hate the kind of statement coleman has made. if your going to say as much as he has, why not name the names rather than cause speculation among other clubs. if he feels it may affect deals in the future he shouldnt comment other than a deal had not come off when at an advanced stage.

I don't blame Coleman. His side are in the clag, have a dismal forward line who are not scoring and he thought he'd got hold a class player who with good management would score at this level and probably help keep Cov up.

[saturday boy]

Once upon a time, a Wolves player being sent to Coventry was a move upwards. Bull nearly went there, Keane did. Now, Wolves greatest ever player the mercurial Freddy Eastwood would have been taking step down in order to further his career.

[Atlas 1951]

Wolv3nsam

I'm sure that the loan can't be ended for the first month but after that there is a automatic recall option that the registration club can apply.

The only people hacked off by his being sent to Cov would be their own supporters who can't stand the bloke for his on and off the field conduct. They're good judges of character if you ask me.:rolleyes:

In that case it was a good point after all. Bravo! JR's Boots. Bravo!

[Dewsburywolf]

Maybe he was going to recall him but then got angry and decided we can keep Kyle as punishment for pulling the plug


$$$$ you beat me to it. :eek:

[hollo]

http://www.coventryobserver.co.uk/ccfc39446.html

[JR's Boots]

In that case it was a good point after all. Bravo! JR's Boots. Bravo!

I live near Warwick so might try and find where Coleman drinks and tell him to get his own back by recalling Kyle.

[Wolv3nsam]

Or Kyle scored the goal to send them down - even better.

[Wolv3nsam]

http://www.coventryobserver.co.uk/ccfc39446.html

I've posted two links to that article on this thread!

[hollo]

Sorry mate

[Wolv3nsam]

It's alright, I'm not sure people noticed it anyway. I'm also sorry I took the mick earlier - seems you were right. You don't happen to know why we pulled the plug though do you?

[306NOTOUT]

I'm sure alot of you will laugh at this but I think there is something going on with Ian Rush and Morgan. (no not in that way!!)

They are obviously friends as they were seen at Cardiff sat together.

Has Mr Morgan taken him on in a football advisory role?
Has Rush been watching Freddy, especially last night and said "I dont know why MM wants to get rid of him"

p.s My mate got arrested by Geoff Palmer on Saturday night!!

[Wolv3nsam]

I'm sure alot of you will laugh at this but I think there is something going on with Ian Rush and Morgan. (no not in that way!!)

They are obviously friends as they were seen at Cardiff sat together.

Has Mr Morgan taken him on in a football advisory role?
Has Rush been watching Freddy, especially last night and said "I dont know why MM wants to get rid of him"

p.s My mate got arrested by Geoff Palmer on Saturday night!!

Didn't they pull the plug yesterday morning though?

[306NOTOUT]

Sorry thought it was this morning?

Still makes me wonder though. What does Morgan really know about the football side of things? He may have a good business brain but to have someone by yourside who you trust would make sense?

[Dewsburywolf]

p.s My mate got arrested by Geoff Palmer on Saturday night!!

Why is he an Albion fan? :rolleyes:

[Wolv3nsam]

Sorry thought it was this morning?

Still makes me wonder though. What does Morgan really know about the football side of things? He may have a good business brain but to have someone by yourside who you trust would make sense?

He is a footballing man if I remember rightly, but he might want to get his own man in to manage Wolves as this pulling the plug on the Freddy deal may show he has little faith in Mick's judgment (let's face it, when you spend £10m on a squad or at the very least £1.5m on a striker you expect to be right up there). It's more so Moxey who isn't a footballing man and prefers the business side of things.

[Atlas 1951]

I live near Warwick so might try and find where Coleman drinks and tell him to get his own back by recalling Kyle.

See Dewsbury Wolf's comments above. Coleman's already one step ahead of us! :mad:

[Wolv3nsam]

Their latest scheme is to send Kyle to WBA to $$$$ us off... :D:D:D

[Dewsburywolf]

See Dewsbury Wolf's comments above. Coleman's already one step ahead of us! :mad:

Kenny11's mate not mine I was just agreeing with him.

Sorry for nicking your glory kenny

[Atlas 1951]

Oops, yes. Sorry Kenny.

[Wolv3nsam]

I bet there will be plenty of "Freddy" chanting next match, anyway. Unless the board release a statement before then reasoning why a deal was agreed in the first place and then the plug was pulled.

[rincewind]

It does look like it was Freddy and if so MM is a fool (and i'm not a Mick hater). FE has real ability although at times (sorry FE fans) he has failed to show it. I do think once he has settled (and it often takes a season) he will be a great signing.
But as a warning to those reading the paper talk remember they have a habit of recalling old quotes and carefully editing comments to present the story they want. I would like to see someone make an attributable comment.

[Wolv3nsam]

Thought this was interesting from a few months back:

http://www.wolves.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/0,,10307~1163247,00.html

[GoldenHorseshoe]

Thought this was interesting from a few months back:

http://www.wolves.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/0,,10307~1163247,00.html

Was it he who pulled the plug?

[Wolv3nsam]

Was it he who pulled the plug?

Well it was either him, Mick or Freddy, in an article Coleman said the manager and player were fantastic and it was the board who were (in so many words) being $$$$s.

Unless of course the board were acting on behalf of the player or manager. Who knows, I really want WOW to release an official statement though.

[GoldenHorseshoe]

Agreed, but the club are not good at releasing statements, as per Koreagate

[Stewarton Wolf]

Well it was either him, Mick or Freddy, in an article Coleman said the manager and player were fantastic and it was the board who were (in so many words) being $$$$s.

Unless of course the board were acting on behalf of the player or manager. Who knows, I really want WOW to release an official statement though.

That will happen....

[Wolv3nsam]

That will happen....

Probably not, but the rumours and speculation will continue until they do.

[Langdale Wolf]

IMO the board pulled the plug due to a lack of trust in Mick, I think Morgan rates Freddy personally. He went out of his way to send a private jet over to pick him and Wayne up and issued a statement a month or two ago saying Freddy will come good eventually. If you ask me he was the one who pulled the plug.

It's a bit like an Abramovich-Shevchenko situation but perhaps not that extreme, one thing's for sure though I think Mick is walking a tight rope with this board right now.

So you don't think that maybe Mick was the one who pulled it due to Eastwood's improved form/attitude of late? (Apologies if this has already been discussed but I haven't read through the whole thread yet).

I really don't think Steve Morgan is a Mandaric type chairman who dabbles in the football side of things. In the same way he praises FE in the statement on WOW you mention, he has also said the same thing about MM over several statements on WOW.

And also, why would he send Bothroyd on loan if he was also thinking about a similar fate for FE?

Freddy appears to be working hard - well done to him. He's in the squad on merit at the moment and if Keogh or SEB have a dip in form, IMO he's likely to be given a start.

[John]

So you don't think that maybe Mick was the one who pulled it due to Eastwood's improved form/attitude of late? (Apologies if this has already been discussed but I haven't read through the whole thread yet)
I'd read the whole thread first if I was you.
Coleman has stated the club pulled the plug, and that the manager and the player were happy with the deal and conducted themselves well.
Make no mistake about it, either Mick was happy to let Freddy go or Coleman is a liar.

[Langdale Wolf]

I'd read the whole thread first if I was you.
Coleman has stated the club pulled the plug, and that the manager and the player were happy with the deal and conducted themselves well.
Make no mistake about it, either Mick was happy to let Freddy go or Coleman is a liar.

Okay, fair do's.

Coleman is obviously a liar then :p

[Wolv3nsam]

Or he has been horribly misquoted.

[QB Wolf]

I'd read the whole thread first if I was you.
Coleman has stated the club pulled the plug, and that the manager and the player were happy with the deal and conducted themselves well.
Make no mistake about it, either Mick was happy to let Freddy go or Coleman is a liar.

Some are reporting McCarthy pulled the deal - suppose this won't suit all agendas though!

[No. 7 George Bowen]

I'm sure alot of you will laugh at this but I think there is something going on with Ian Rush and Morgan. (no not in that way!!)

They are obviously friends as they were seen at Cardiff sat together.

Has Mr Morgan taken him on in a football advisory role?
Has Rush been watching Freddy, especially last night and said "I dont know why MM wants to get rid of him"

p.s My mate got arrested by Geoff Palmer on Saturday night!!

I should hope not, Ian Rush was a complete failure as a manager. Just because someone played professional football doesn't mean they know the first thing about judging players and how to manage a team. I would take Arrigo Sacchi, Jose Mourinho, Sven Goran (pronounouced Yuran) Eriksson, Rafa Benitez or Carlos Alberto Perreira's opinion over Ian Rushs' anyday.

[Langdale Wolf]

I'd read the whole thread first if I was you.
Coleman has stated the club pulled the plug, and that the manager and the player were happy with the deal and conducted themselves well.
Make no mistake about it, either Mick was happy to let Freddy go or Coleman is a liar.

http://www.wolves.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/0,,10307~1276126,00.html

Seems Coleman WAS either lying or misquoted (or has just thrown his toys out of the pram), and that maybe MM DOES rate Eastwood after all?

Surely not?

ETA: Sorry, didn't realise new thread had been started with the same link!

[JR's Boots]

There's a big splash on the back of the Cov Evening telegraph

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/coventry-city-fc/coventry-city-fc-news/2008/03/28/coventry-city-still-ready-to-land-freddy-eastwood-92746-20685921/

According to them, it was the club rather than the manager who pulled the plug because they feared fans backlash.

If it was Morgan he was right to do it as the rift between McCarthy and supporters would have grown even further.

[sjonnie]

There's a big splash on the back of the Cov Evening telegraph

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/coventry-city-fc/coventry-city-fc-news/2008/03/28/coventry-city-still-ready-to-land-freddy-eastwood-92746-20685921/

According to them, it was the club rather than the manager who pulled the plug because they feared fans backlash.

If it was Morgan he was right to do it as the rift between McCarthy and supporters would have grown even further.

If your last sentence is correct, then it is more good news as it will probably open up a rift between Morgan and McCarthy and it might be the start of some action in that respect.

[Pig]

Lot of people have made themselves look like mugs on this thread....... you know who you are, gone a bit quiet haven't you? Knocking people who are in the know, because YOU aren't. I was told this deal would happen before Kyle came, and again on the 23rd March. You would think that some of the posters that have been here from the early days, that are gobbing off, would be remaining objective by now ;)

[wanderer24]

**ego alert**

[HSV Wolf]

Who and why it was stopped.what ever...it was the right decision.

Freddy Eastwood is a Wolves player who we paid £1.5 million for, who at 23 has a proven track record and I believe will come good if given a decent run. If Coleman is upset tough tities......he is our player who we may need as has been proven in the last few games.....If he needs a striker that badly he can have Kyle back and I'll pay his bus fare.

Can't beleive his badmouthing of a club who have decided to keep their own player....more a case of saving face with his own fans for his own inadequacies .Also can't beleive that Eastwood would want to go there with the prospects of division one football next season

[Pig]

**ego alert**

Who are you?

[Kenny-11]

Lot of people have made themselves look like mugs on this thread....... you know who you are, gone a bit quiet haven't you? Knocking people who are in the know,


For every one that is right, there are 100 that are utter $$$$$$$$. Hence the knocking of the "can't name my sources"

[Pig]

For every one that is right, there are 100 that are utter $$$$$$$$. Hence the knocking of the "can't name my sources"

Thought you'd know better by now Stuart ;)

[Kenny-11]

Thought you'd know better by now Stuart ;)

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