Wolv3nsam
25-03-2008, 11:17
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johnybig32
25-03-2008, 11:25
Rosa = the past...
He wont play in first team again.
He wont play in first team again.
Wolv3nsam
25-03-2008, 11:27
Hint of sarcasm in my title as when he was free scoring in the reserves everyone was crowing for him to be played in the first team.
jlovatt
25-03-2008, 11:31
we have a player called Rooney in our squad?
John Williams
25-03-2008, 11:33
Still think he'd offer us something from the bench.
Dewsburywolf
25-03-2008, 11:34
And yet the recent 4-5-1 formation that we've been playing away from home is where Rosa was excelling before his injury yet Mick said he couldn't accomodate Rosa in our First Team.
Wolv3nsam
25-03-2008, 11:34
Rosa plays in a 4-4-1-1 I believe.
Dewsburywolf
25-03-2008, 11:37
Rosa plays in a 4-4-1-1 I believe.
Isn't that similar to what Olofinjana does? Not a dig at anyone just that Rosa seemed to be the "man in the hole" breaking from Midfield.
Isn't that similar to what Olofinjana does? Not a dig at anyone just that Rosa seemed to be the "man in the hole" breaking from Midfield.
Axle
25-03-2008, 11:53
Surely Keogh would be the best player for the role, behind Eastwood or E-B?
Or in an ideal worl behind both in a 4-3-1-2 formation, with Olo holding behind Kights and Jarvis!
Never happen, but that's the quality of personnel we have, it's just up to the manager to find the best blend.
Or in an ideal worl behind both in a 4-3-1-2 formation, with Olo holding behind Kights and Jarvis!
Never happen, but that's the quality of personnel we have, it's just up to the manager to find the best blend.
Wolv3nsam
25-03-2008, 11:54
Isn't Olofinjana more of an attacking midfielder than a defensive one?
If he's a defensive one by nature he's bloody $$$$.
If he's a defensive one by nature he's bloody $$$$.
Dewsburywolf
25-03-2008, 12:11
Surely Keogh would be the best player for the role, behind Eastwood or E-B?
Or in an ideal worl behind both in a 4-3-1-2 formation, with Olo holding behind Kights and Jarvis!
That's what I posted last night but without Kightly (due to injury) with Olofinjana plus 1 other Holding Midfield.
Like you said possibly too adventurous for us at present.
Or in an ideal worl behind both in a 4-3-1-2 formation, with Olo holding behind Kights and Jarvis!
That's what I posted last night but without Kightly (due to injury) with Olofinjana plus 1 other Holding Midfield.
Like you said possibly too adventurous for us at present.
fullmoon
25-03-2008, 12:11
we have a player called Rooney in our squad?
:D:D
:D:D
ProudWolf
25-03-2008, 12:13
If you play 4-3-1-2 you play with no wingers and three central midfield players tight and let one player roam and create which from our lot would be Eastwood. Keogh is a striker and not an attacking midfielder.
Dewsburywolf
25-03-2008, 12:17
If you play 4-3-1-2 you play with no wingers and three central midfield players tight and let one player roam and create which from our lot would be Eastwood. Keogh is a striker and not an attacking midfielder.
Not necessarily a bad thing to play with no wingers though is it? Especially with ours being injured at one point or other.
Tottenham have played 4-3-1-2 a few times this season with Keane in behind Berbatov and Defoe/Bent. Aaron Lennon flitting from wing to wing I believe.
Not necessarily a bad thing to play with no wingers though is it? Especially with ours being injured at one point or other.
Tottenham have played 4-3-1-2 a few times this season with Keane in behind Berbatov and Defoe/Bent. Aaron Lennon flitting from wing to wing I believe.
ProudWolf
25-03-2008, 12:22
Not necessarily a bad thing to play with no wingers though is it? Especially with ours being injured at one point or other.
Tottenham have played 4-3-1-2 a few times this season with Keane in behind Berbatov and Defoe/Bent. Aaron Lennon flitting from wing to wing I believe.
If Lennon is playing they have played four in midfield and Keane went to the right or left wing with Lennon on the other.
Otherwise they take a defender off and go 3-4-1-2 where you can play wide midfielders and somebody 'in the hole'.
We maybe could've tried 4-3-1-2 earlier in the season but now Jarvis is back and Gray is having a new lease of life there is no need.
Tottenham have played 4-3-1-2 a few times this season with Keane in behind Berbatov and Defoe/Bent. Aaron Lennon flitting from wing to wing I believe.
If Lennon is playing they have played four in midfield and Keane went to the right or left wing with Lennon on the other.
Otherwise they take a defender off and go 3-4-1-2 where you can play wide midfielders and somebody 'in the hole'.
We maybe could've tried 4-3-1-2 earlier in the season but now Jarvis is back and Gray is having a new lease of life there is no need.
Dewsburywolf
25-03-2008, 12:28
Isn't that what we could revert to when Gray goes off after his customary "I've run my balls off boss replace me" time comes with Freddy replacing him though? Jarvis like I said flitting from wing to wing instead of Keogh having to move out wide. Options maybe? Plan B?
ProudWolf
25-03-2008, 12:32
Isn't that what we could revert to when Gray goes off after his customary "I've run my balls off boss replace me" time comes with Freddy replacing him though? Jarvis like I said flitting from wing to wing instead of Keogh having to move out wide. Options maybe? Plan B?
It's a bit unbalanced though with one wing always unoccupied. Can leave you vulnerable and exposed. Stick to 4-4-2 as long as Jarvis is fit.
Also playing with somebody in the hole also reduces the amount of space for George to work in and he has less room to make forward runs.
It's a bit unbalanced though with one wing always unoccupied. Can leave you vulnerable and exposed. Stick to 4-4-2 as long as Jarvis is fit.
Also playing with somebody in the hole also reduces the amount of space for George to work in and he has less room to make forward runs.
Toon Wolf
25-03-2008, 14:20
He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy.
The Bear
25-03-2008, 15:39
http://www.nottinghamforest.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10308~1273591,00.html
Wolves 2-0 up with 20 mins to go.
Rosa has scored - Cue meltdown about why he isn't playing....
Wolves 2-0 up with 20 mins to go.
Rosa has scored - Cue meltdown about why he isn't playing....
Paul76
25-03-2008, 15:41
Rosa should be captain of England.
Wolv3nsam
25-03-2008, 15:53
Rosa should be captain of England.
Shame he's Hungarian.
Shame he's Hungarian.
Paul76
25-03-2008, 15:59
Shame he's Hungarian.
When has that ever mattered In this day and age?
When has that ever mattered In this day and age?
Wolv3nsam
25-03-2008, 16:03
When has that ever mattered In this day and age?
Well he does have 10 caps so I think it's a bit too late.
Well he does have 10 caps so I think it's a bit too late.
Paul76
25-03-2008, 16:20
Well he does have 10 caps so I think it's a bit too late.
I didn't say nothing about captaining England football team did I?
I didn't say nothing about captaining England football team did I?
Guns4
25-03-2008, 16:28
With his pace, he reminds me of Kevin Cooper, from the bench an injection of energy from the bench.
jabbawolf
25-03-2008, 16:52
http://www.nottinghamforest.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10308~1273591,00.html
Wolves 2-0 up with 20 mins to go.
Rosa has scored - Cue meltdown about why he isn't playing....
Lost 3-2 - all Rosa's fault - hungary enough, but not young.
Wolves 2-0 up with 20 mins to go.
Rosa has scored - Cue meltdown about why he isn't playing....
Lost 3-2 - all Rosa's fault - hungary enough, but not young.
Dr Wolfenstein
25-03-2008, 18:48
Rosa plays in a 4-4-1-1 I believe.
The inflexible $$$$$$$!
His agent is clearly Darren Lamb, so will neither engineer a promotion to 1st XII nor a loan move/transfer.
The inflexible $$$$$$$!
His agent is clearly Darren Lamb, so will neither engineer a promotion to 1st XII nor a loan move/transfer.
Essex Wolf
25-03-2008, 19:07
And yet the recent 4-5-1 formation that we've been playing away from home is where Rosa was excelling before his injury yet Mick said he couldn't accomodate Rosa in our First Team.
Strange hey?
Strange hey?
Wolv3nsam
25-03-2008, 19:58
Was Rosa worshipped this much during the Glenda days when he was actually playing?
Paul76
25-03-2008, 20:00
Was Rosa worshipped this much during the Glenda days when he was actually playing?
NO. Every time I saw him play everybody thought he was just an average tidy midfielder. Nothing special.
NO. Every time I saw him play everybody thought he was just an average tidy midfielder. Nothing special.
Kenny-11
25-03-2008, 20:41
Strange hey?
Yeah strange. When Rosa was scoring v Oldhams U13's Girl team, we were in 3rd place. When we played 4-5-1 Rosa was injured. I just can't put my finger on why he wasn't considered.......I really can't
Yeah strange. When Rosa was scoring v Oldhams U13's Girl team, we were in 3rd place. When we played 4-5-1 Rosa was injured. I just can't put my finger on why he wasn't considered.......I really can't
UEAwolf
25-03-2008, 20:45
From the team's performances this season, at the very least he should have been given a run out in the 1st team.
Stewarton Wolf
25-03-2008, 22:00
Rosa scored on his comeback
http://www.wolves.premiumtv.co.uk/page/ReserveReportDetail/0,,10307~1273855,00.html (http://www.wolves.premiumtv.co.uk/page/ReserveReportDetail/0,,10307%7E1273855,00.html)
http://www.wolves.premiumtv.co.uk/page/ReserveReportDetail/0,,10307~1273855,00.html (http://www.wolves.premiumtv.co.uk/page/ReserveReportDetail/0,,10307%7E1273855,00.html)
Kenny-11
25-03-2008, 22:25
Rosa scored on his comeback
http://www.wolves.premiumtv.co.uk/page/ReserveReportDetail/0,,10307~1273855,00.html
Good. Maybe now someone will come in for him. Amazing how he has been on the transfer list and not one club has took him for at least one month (exluding the ones he has been injured in of course)
http://www.wolves.premiumtv.co.uk/page/ReserveReportDetail/0,,10307~1273855,00.html
Good. Maybe now someone will come in for him. Amazing how he has been on the transfer list and not one club has took him for at least one month (exluding the ones he has been injured in of course)
berrysafro2
26-03-2008, 09:55
"Good. Maybe now someone will come in for him."
It's most likely clubs are waiting for him to come to the end of his contract so he can be picked up on a free transfer.
Can you not appreciate that given the paucity of creativity/goals from midfield this season Rosa at least deserved to be given a chance?
It must be very galling for him to see MM continually selecting players who are failing in a very important aspect of their role on the field ie scoring goals.Henry,Potter,Olofinjana,Jarvis,Gibson and Edwards have just 7 league goals between them while S Ward(OK,may be said to have been played out of position)has not scored in 27 league games this season.
What puzzles me is WHY MM won't give Rosa a run of games just to see if he can make a difference.
By the way, last night we were winning up until Rosa was taken off.....(perhaps he was subbed so as not to over-tire him for Saturday....?)
It's most likely clubs are waiting for him to come to the end of his contract so he can be picked up on a free transfer.
Can you not appreciate that given the paucity of creativity/goals from midfield this season Rosa at least deserved to be given a chance?
It must be very galling for him to see MM continually selecting players who are failing in a very important aspect of their role on the field ie scoring goals.Henry,Potter,Olofinjana,Jarvis,Gibson and Edwards have just 7 league goals between them while S Ward(OK,may be said to have been played out of position)has not scored in 27 league games this season.
What puzzles me is WHY MM won't give Rosa a run of games just to see if he can make a difference.
By the way, last night we were winning up until Rosa was taken off.....(perhaps he was subbed so as not to over-tire him for Saturday....?)
No. 7 George Bowen
26-03-2008, 10:35
If Lennon is playing they have played four in midfield and Keane went to the right or left wing with Lennon on the other.
Otherwise they take a defender off and go 3-4-1-2 where you can play wide midfielders and somebody 'in the hole'.
We maybe could've tried 4-3-1-2 earlier in the season but now Jarvis is back and Gray is having a new lease of life there is no need.
If, as is likely, we are still in this division next year I think Mick should potentially look into 3-4-1-2 as an alternative alongside 4-4-2 and 4-5-1. Pasquale Marino has used it to great effect (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/gabriele_marcotti/article3300683.ece) and particularly at home when the opposition has only one up front then I don't see why not. I guess you could just tuck Elokobi inside.
Yes again playing Keogh in the hole is not his natural game as it negates his movement and pace. It was Eastwood who played off Keogh with some success at the start of the season.
Otherwise they take a defender off and go 3-4-1-2 where you can play wide midfielders and somebody 'in the hole'.
We maybe could've tried 4-3-1-2 earlier in the season but now Jarvis is back and Gray is having a new lease of life there is no need.
If, as is likely, we are still in this division next year I think Mick should potentially look into 3-4-1-2 as an alternative alongside 4-4-2 and 4-5-1. Pasquale Marino has used it to great effect (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/gabriele_marcotti/article3300683.ece) and particularly at home when the opposition has only one up front then I don't see why not. I guess you could just tuck Elokobi inside.
Yes again playing Keogh in the hole is not his natural game as it negates his movement and pace. It was Eastwood who played off Keogh with some success at the start of the season.
Still Proud
26-03-2008, 10:39
Looking at some of the names on the bench are one or two of these starlets of the future that Chris Evans set up a security cordon around starting to come through?
Kenny-11
26-03-2008, 13:47
"Can you not appreciate that given the paucity of creativity/goals from midfield this season Rosa at least deserved to be given a chance?
No because he isn't even Lge 2 standard
No because he isn't even Lge 2 standard
Stewarton Wolf
26-03-2008, 13:50
If, as is likely, we are still in this division next year I think Mick should potentially look into 3-4-1-2 as an alternative alongside 4-4-2 and 4-5-1. Pasquale Marino has used it to great effect (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/gabriele_marcotti/article3300683.ece) and particularly at home when the opposition has only one up front then I don't see why not. I guess you could just tuck Elokobi inside.
Yes again playing Keogh in the hole is not his natural game as it negates his movement and pace. It was Eastwood who played off Keogh with some success at the start of the season.
For a new job - If we don't go up he won't be here - positive thoughts please...
Yes again playing Keogh in the hole is not his natural game as it negates his movement and pace. It was Eastwood who played off Keogh with some success at the start of the season.
For a new job - If we don't go up he won't be here - positive thoughts please...
HICKO
26-03-2008, 14:27
For a new job - If we don't go up he won't be here - positive thoughts please...
........perhaps if he stays you might leave?
........perhaps if he stays you might leave?
Law's Bus
26-03-2008, 15:14
No because he isn't even Lge 2 standard
In which case the Hungarian national team must be really, really rubbish.
In which case the Hungarian national team must be really, really rubbish.
Kenny-11
26-03-2008, 15:59
In which case the Hungarian national team must be really, really rubbish.
Well, they are not good...........
Well, they are not good...........
berrysafro2
26-03-2008, 19:16
In that case the Nigerian and Rep of Ireland teams can't be any good either.
Sideshow Bob
26-03-2008, 22:07
Attendance: 56 for the reserves. Was everyone down the Mol for the U21 game?
Dewsburywolf
26-03-2008, 22:29
Attendance: 56 for the reserves. Was everyone down the Mol for the U21 game?
Afternoon game wasn't it? Plenty of time to attend both.
Afternoon game wasn't it? Plenty of time to attend both.
