Hat-trick

[Howlin' Wolf]

What is hat-trick in football?
Contrary to popular belief, a hat-trick is THREE CONSECUTIVE GOALS SCORED BY THE SAME PLAYER IN THE SAME HALF.
So this is a true hat-trick, from last night’s results:
Weymouth 0 (0) – (3) 6 Forest Green (Fleetwood 4, Jones 36. Fleetwood 45, Rigoglioso 52, Rigoglioso 78, Rigoglioso 81)

[ROVERT47]

I always thought a proper hat-trick was right foot,left foot and head.
Forsell got one last Saturday.

[Brizzlewolf]

What is hat-trick in football?
Contrary to popular belief, a hat-trick is THREE CONSECUTIVE GOALS SCORED BY THE SAME PLAYER IN THE SAME HALF.
So this is a true hat-trick, from last night’s results:
Weymouth 0 (0) – (3) 6 Forest Green (Fleetwood 4, Jones 36. Fleetwood 45, Rigoglioso 52, Rigoglioso 78, Rigoglioso 81)

Says who?

[jlovatt]

What is hat-trick in football?
Contrary to popular belief, a hat-trick is THREE CONSECUTIVE GOALS SCORED BY THE SAME PLAYER IN THE SAME HALF.
So this is a true hat-trick, from last night’s results:
Weymouth 0 (0) – (3) 6 Forest Green (Fleetwood 4, Jones 36. Fleetwood 45, Rigoglioso 52, Rigoglioso 78, Rigoglioso 81)

In germany. Soccer AM did a bit on it a couple seasons back.

[Oxford Wolf]

Left foot, right foot, header is called a perfect hat-trick

[Winelord]

I don't think I'll be too critical if the next WWFC hat-trick is just 3 headers.

[Flitwick Wolf]

Left foot, right foot, header is called a perfect hat-trick

Oral, normal and **al is in fact the correct definition of a perfect hat-trick.

[Purple Ronnie]

when was the last wolves hat-trick

[Winelord]

Carl Cort
Aug '05

[Dewsburywolf]

How many of Bully's record number for Wolves weren't Hat Tricks then? Three goals in a game is NOW known as a Hat Trick no matter what history denotes.

[marrs-guitar]

when was the last wolves hat-trick

proudlock at bradford early in the collapse season, wasnt it?

[ROVERT47]

http://www.wolves.premiumtv.co.uk/page/MatchReport/0,,10307~29189,00.html

[Dewsburywolf]

http://www.wolves.premiumtv.co.uk/page/MatchReport/0,,10307~29189,00.html


Two and a half bleeding years? Says a lot about our strike force/ creativity doesn't it?

[OCD Wolf]

..and the one before that was 2 years previous.
Two hat-tricks in 5 years, I do despair...

[Wolv3nsam]

Ebanks-Blake looks perfectly capable of getting a hat trick.. proper goalscorer. Unlike our other strikers he doesn't need to get the ball onto his dominant foot to score as he can score with both!

[Dewsburywolf]

Ebanks-Blake looks perfectly capable of getting a hat trick.. proper goalscorer. Unlike our other strikers he doesn't need to get the ball onto his dominant foot to score as he can score with both!

Three attempts two goals speaks for itself. Didn't do much else but who cares? Shame about the Suicidal last minute defending.

[Wolv3nsam]

Three attempts two goals speaks for itself. Didn't do much else but who cares? Shame about the Suicidal last minute defending.

Mick will probably start caring. As I said on another thread he dropped Eastwood due to him not working hard enough, but last night I didn't see a lot else that Ebanks-Blake did apart from score. He was too lazy to close down the keeper and more often than not didn't leave our half of the field unless it was to defend a corner. It's not a problem for me as he's doing a strikers job but Eastwood was dropped for being a lazy $$$$$$$ and Ebanks-Blake doesn't really 'put a shift in' if you like. Perhaps SEB isn't as selfish as Freddy? Who knows. If you ask me they're both similar players with similar attitudes.

[Dewsburywolf]

And both cost £1.5 million pounds. So they must be better than the others mustn't they?

[Wolv3nsam]

And both cost £1.5 million pounds. So they must be better than the others mustn't they?

Ebanks-Blake was an absolute steal at £1.5m. Eastwood is worth about that much, yes.

[ROVERT47]

Mick will probably start caring. As I said on another thread he dropped Eastwood due to him not working hard enough, but last night I didn't see a lot else that Ebanks-Blake did apart from score. He was too lazy to close down the keeper and more often than not didn't leave our half of the field unless it was to defend a corner. It's not a problem for me as he's doing a strikers job but Eastwood was dropped for being a lazy $$$$$$$ and Ebanks-Blake doesn't really 'put a shift in' if you like. Perhaps SEB isn't as selfish as Freddy? Who knows. If you ask me they're both similar players with similar attitudes.

Eastwood:Appearances (including coming on as sub)16-Goals 4.
Ebanks-Blake Appearances 9 Goals 5.
That may have something to do with it.

[Wolv3nsam]

Eastwood:Appearances (including coming on as sub)16-Goals 4.
Ebanks-Blake Appearances 9 Goals 5.
That may have something to do with it.

Eastwood had a decent goalscoring record before the Sheffield United game, admittedly he hasn't done a lot to convince since then. ;)

It's sad Ebanks-Blake only needs two more goals to be joint top scorer..

[Dewsburywolf]

Ebanks-Blake was an absolute steal at £1.5m. Eastwood is worth about that much, yes.

Wasn't sure about whether to add a smiley.

Eastwood's had one year at this level. Elliott and Kyle have been in Promotion winning teams, Freddy's team got relegated. All of the scored goals.

You can do anything with stats.

[Atlas 1951]

Eastwood:Appearances (including coming on as sub)16-Goals 4.
Ebanks-Blake Appearances 9 Goals 5.
That may have something to do with it.

So Mick could see into the future, then?

When he was dropped he'd played eight games and scored four.

He scored four in his first three games for Wolves and put one away on his international debut the same month. Won Championship player of the month. Praised by the boss for an important tackle in the 0-0 draw at Stoke. Dropped in September, more or less definitively.

Of course his legend has grown since then with some sections of the goal-starved Wolves fans, but I fail to understand such knee-jerk defences of the manager as yours, Rover. You know as well as anybody that occasional 10 minute performances from a striker are not going to yield many goals (unless he's David Fairclough) so why bring up those statistics? Do you have some personal stake in this decision?

And in what way did it work out well for Wolves? We have a terrible goal difference and a statistically-tight defence.

All anybody wanted to see was what Eastwood could do with a run in the team. As our first important signing in two years, I believe that was understandable. It's not Freddy's fault that people chant his name. Nobody's really seen enough of him to judge (which is what is so disappointing, at the end of the day), so leaping up to tow the party line is just as stupid as believing him to be the messiah.

This is Mick McCarthy, not Joe McCarthy. You needn't be so afraid of having an open mind.

[ROVERT47]

So Mick could see into the future, then?

When he was dropped he'd played eight games and scored four.

He scored four in his first three games for Wolves and put one away on his international debut the same month. Won Championship player of the month. Praised by the boss for an important tackle in the 0-0 draw at Stoke. Dropped in September, more or less definitively.

Of course his legend has grown since then with some sections of the goal-starved Wolves fans, but I fail to understand such knee-jerk defences of the manager as yours, Rover. You know as well as anybody that occasional 10 minute performances from a striker are not going to yield many goals (unless he's David Fairclough) so why bring up those statistics? Do you have some personal stake in this decision?

And in what way did it work out well for Wolves? We have a terrible goal difference and a statistically-tight defence.

All anybody wanted to see was what Eastwood could do with a run in the team. As our first important signing in two years, I believe that was understandable. It's not Freddy's fault that people chant his name. Nobody's really seen enough of him to judge (which is what is so disappointing, at the end of the day), so leaping up to tow the party line is just as stupid as believing him to be the messiah.

This is Mick McCarthy, not Joe McCarthy. You needn't be so afraid of having an open mind.

Personaly i couldn't give a toss about McCarthy,i have never been motivated by whoever the Manager is.
All i was saying was, if Eastwood had been as prolific as the Blackpool game suggested he was going to be, then he would have been a regular.

[Wolv3nsam]

if Eastwood had been as prolific as the Blackpool game suggested he was going to be, then he would have been a regular.

It could be argued that if Eastwood had have been played during the Sheffield United match, Hull match etc. he may have gone on to have about 15 goals by now. He needs a run in the team to score goals and he's currently not getting that, whether or not he is doing the talking on the training ground is questionable but he showed early promise and good players don't tend to turn $$$$ overnight.

My main point was that he was dropped for being lazy but Ebanks-Blake doesn't exactly do a lot of work either, so if I was Freddy I would be slightly $$$$ed at that.

[Del Woppio]

Eastwood wasn't dropped because of his workrate. He was rested because he admitted that he was knackered after international duty. He has since done nothing in a Wolves shirt to warrant a first team place - whether that be from the games he's started, his substitute appearances or his reserve team run outs.

To the 'he hasn't had a run' clan - there was a six game period in November in which he played in over 400 of the available 540 minutes. In that 6 game period, we scored 3 goals, and he was gash.

Until he deserves his place back, he won't - and shouldn't - get it.

[Wolv3nsam]

Eastwood wasn't dropped because of his workrate. He was rested because he admitted that he was knackered after international duty. He has since done nothing in a Wolves shirt to warrant a first team place - whether that be from the games he's started, his substitute appearances or his reserve team run outs.

To the 'he hasn't had a run' clan - there was a six game period in November in which he played in over 400 of the available 540 minutes. In that 6 game period, we scored 3 goals, and he was gash.

Until he deserves his place back, he won't - and shouldn't - get it.

Eastwood told the BBC's Sport Wales programme he is unhappy at being left out of the side by boss Mick McCarthy.
"When I first arrived I was scoring but he said I wasn't working hard enough so he took me out of the side," he said.
"Then when I was working hard enough I wasn't scoring. I'm in and out of the side, not used to it and not happy."

[Del Woppio]

Or...

Eastwood returned home on Thursday after chairman Steve Morgan chartered his private jet to collect the striker and his Wales international team-mate Wayne Hennessey from Bratislava following their Euro 2008 qualifying victory in Slovakia.

However, the former Southend man complained of jet lag upon his return to Molineux and McCarthy to leave him out and draft in Stephen Elliott for the Championship clash at Bramall Lane.

"Freddy was knackered when he got back - and said he felt worse on Friday," the Wolves boss told the club's official website.

"It was difficult for him to be left out but he accepted it and will be back in contention for Tuesday."

[Dewsburywolf]

Or...

Eastwood returned home on Thursday after chairman Steve Morgan chartered his private jet to collect the striker and his Wales international team-mate Wayne Hennessey from Bratislava following their Euro 2008 qualifying victory in Slovakia.

However, the former Southend man complained of jet lag upon his return to Molineux and McCarthy to leave him out and draft in Stephen Elliott for the Championship clash at Bramall Lane.

"Freddy was knackered when he got back - and said he felt worse on Friday," the Wolves boss told the club's official website.

"It was difficult for him to be left out but he accepted it and will be back in contention for Tuesday."

And Elliott got the goal which unfortunately wasn't enough to keep him in the team. Eastwood still started the next game.

[Del Woppio]

And Elliott got the goal which unfortunately wasn't enough to keep him in the team. Eastwood still started the next game.

....vs Hull, during which he was $$$$ and rightly dropped - he started none of the next six games, during which we collected 14 points (our best run this season). The next game he started, we lost.

[Winelord]

last night I didn't see a lot else that Ebanks-Blake did apart from score. He was too lazy to close down the keeper and more often than not didn't leave our half of the field unless it was to defend a corner.

Don't agree with that, I thought he ran around quite a lot, and he did close the keeper down. Then again, I didn't think Nathan Blake was lazy, either.

[Atlas 1951]

Eastwood wasn't dropped because of his workrate. He was rested because he admitted that he was knackered after international duty. He has since done nothing in a Wolves shirt to warrant a first team place - whether that be from the games he's started, his substitute appearances or his reserve team run outs.

To the 'he hasn't had a run' clan - there was a six game period in November in which he played in over 400 of the available 540 minutes. In that 6 game period, we scored 3 goals, and he was gash.

Until he deserves his place back, he won't - and shouldn't - get it.

Don't get me wrong, DW, I'm not suggesting we drop SEB for him! ;) But that run in the team that you mention saw him hit the post a couple of times and, according to many, look quite dangerous. Also somewhat nervous and over-eager to shoot. If he'd got a goal things might have been very different; it seems that his confidence was already on the wane, and some of Mick's comments appeared ill-chosen. He was also given a rotating cast of strike partners in that time. And it still only amounts to four full games, though admittedly he started others and was retired.

It's true he has not busted a gut in the reserves - possibly not a surprise for a young man who's already given up football once.

I personally think he was mismanaged and will go on to score goals at this level with someone else. But it's history now; I can't see him returning under McCarthy.

I have to rely on others' opinions and as such trust yours as much as anybody's. But strikers are a funny breed. There's a guy who came up through the ranks at Atlas that I absolutely hated in his first season or two; he was loaned out for a year and still didn't impress me, dropped down a division (which is pretty much reserve-team football here) came back into the first team and still didn't impress me but in the last four games has been man of the match at least twice. He's got experience and talent around him, and found goals when he needed them to get his confidence up.

It just seems another example of Molineux Mix polarity that when somebody mentions Eastwood in passing, there's always somebody willing to pile in with some stats to prove how $$$$ he is. And the anti-Eastwood brigade have, at least on here, been a lot more vocal and judgemental re. Eastwood than those wishing to see him given more of a chance.

[Del Woppio]

And the anti-Eastwood brigade have, at least on here, been a lot more vocal and judgemental re. Eastwood than those wishing to see him given more of a chance.

True, however at the games it's a different story, with Freddy Freddy Freddy every time Elliot/Ward/Kyle/Bothroyd make a mistake.

Re the stats - I've just re-checked; During November-Early December he started 6 out of 7 games - the one he didn't being when we switched to 4-5-1 away to Albion.

[Wolv3nsam]

True, however at the games it's a different story, with Freddy Freddy Freddy every time Elliot/Ward/Kyle/Bothroyd make a mistake.

Admittedly I don't agree with that, can't do much for their confidence.

Before you mention it, I only have that idiot chant as my signature for a laugh. ;)

[Del Woppio]

I know, you crazy cat.

[Atlas 1951]

True, however at the games it's a different story, with Freddy Freddy Freddy every time Elliot/Ward/Kyle/Bothroyd make a mistake.

Re the stats - I've just re-checked; During November-Early December he started 6 out of 7 games - the one he didn't being when we switched to 4-5-1 away to Albion.

We were without wingers then, too. And there was still no Edwards. As soon as Jarvis got fit Fred was out. And though Eastwood did get plenty of games, he was merely one element in a constantly rotating cast, playing alongside Elliot, Bothroyd and Keogh in different games. He certainly must have known his place wasn't safe and that can't have helped his confidence.

I don't expect touchy-feely from McCarthy, but when he began his career here with a blaze of glory he banged 'em in. When he was brought down to size he shrank. That doesn't endear Eastwood to me, but by the same token I do think Mick played it wrong.

[Dewsburywolf]

I don't expect touchy-feely from McCarthy

Yet he does with the "excellant" Elliott and this week with his support of Kyle.

Some he praises some he just kicks straight in the nuts.

[Kenny-11]

Yet he does with the "excellant" Elliott and this week with his support of Kyle.

Some he praises some he just kicks straight in the nuts.

He has praised Freddy enough times as well but that gets ingnored....

[Dewsburywolf]

He has praised Freddy enough times as well but that gets ingnored....

$$$$$$$ed him more often than praised though. And now just ignores him or gives him 5 to 10 minutes at the end of games.

[Kenny-11]

$$$$$$$ed him more often than praised though. And now just ignores him or gives him 5 to 10 minutes at the end of games.

I remember a couple of comments about his workrate and how he wasn't happy = fair enough.
He also got praise when he put the effort in = fair enough


Anyone would think this guy was Ronaldo/Tevev/Rooney rolled into one the way some people cream themselves over him and cry when he doesn't play

[Atlas 1951]

I remember a couple of comments about his workrate and how he wasn't happy = fair enough.
He also got praise when he put the effort in = fair enough


Anyone would think this guy was Ronaldo/Tevev/Rooney rolled into one the way some people cream themselves over him and cry when he doesn't play

As I mentioned above (and even DW agreed) he gets more criticism than praise on here. Neither is really justified given the amount of time he had and the unsettling comments/team selections during the second of the two spells.

[Dewsburywolf]

I remember a couple of comments about his workrate and how he wasn't happy = fair enough.
He also got praise when he put the effort in = fair enough


Anyone would think this guy was Ronaldo/Tevev/Rooney rolled into one the way some people cream themselves over him and cry when he doesn't play


I'm not exactly in the "creaming themselves" category to be honest which you might have realised by the ???? used in my original post.

We paid £1.5 mil for him so he should play/be appreciated more than Bothroyd/Keogh/Elliott. Utter twaddle if he doesn't score goals when he gets two or three starts in games he should be dropped and wait his turn accordingly like the aforementioned.

[Howlin' Wolf]

Says who?
Wikipedia, for one.
Association football
A hat-trick occurs in football (soccer) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_football) when a player scores three goals in a single game, although there are various contrasting interpretations as to the exact criteria of a valid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valid) football hat-trick. It is commonly held that the goals can be scored at any time in the match, whether in normal, injury (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Injury_time) or extra time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extra_time), and for some this is the only condition necessary to satisfy the definition of a hat-trick.[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hat-trick#_note-5) As with other goal-scoring statistics, goals in a penalty shootout (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penalty_shootout_%28football%29) are not counted.
There also exists the widely accepted concept of the 'flawless' or 'German' hat-trick, which differs in that all three goals must be scored consecutively within one period of play.[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hat-trick#_note-6) Also referred to in football is the "Perfect Hat-trick (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Perfect_Hat-trick&action=edit&redlink=1)" (also known as the "Golden hat-trick" or the "Classic hat-trick"). This relates to the scoring of three goals in a single match, one with each foot and one with the head. A recent example of this was Mikael Forssell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikael_Forssell)'s hat-trick for Birmingham City against Tottenham Hotspur in March 2008.
It has become traditional for the scorer of a hat-trick to claim the match ball as a personal souvenir of the feat.