Freddy To Forest?

[Virginia Wolf]

So says the Daily Star and BBC Gossip

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/gossip_and_transfers/7278698.stm

[wallace]

wasteing his time at wolves. i dont think hes ever going to get a proper chance with mm.

[jlovatt]

let him get some first team football until MM has gone but at this level. Heck, we could even loan him up a division to Derby.

[Moira Stewart]

I do feel sorry for him, what chance has he got to make an impact when Mick just gives him the obligitary 5 minutes at the end of a game. He made one excellent run last night which nearly resulted in a goal, he's obviously not going to get a look in so we should send him on loan.

[purplepault69]

Agree that a loan would do him the world of good , perhaps there is a loan swop with Commons or Davies coming to us ??

[BlahBlah]

Or Nugent....cant see any other reason why he watched us at Colchester, and has now turned down Ipswich.

[ProudWolf]

Freddy's going nowhere. He's one of our four strikers and featuring regularly in the 16. Even if he's unhappy, McCarthy wont allow him to go. If anyone it should be Bothroyd who goes on loan.

[Dewsburywolf]

Let him go for a month, maybe even til the end of the season (it's not as if we're using him is it?) to get some games in, score goals and get his appetite back. If he can then smuggle Commons and Davies in his travel bag when he comes back all the better.

[Bevan]

There should be striker clearout in the summer. SEB and Keogh are the only definites in terms of keeping. Elliott and S.Ward are versatile, so keep them. The jury's out on Kyle, but I'd get rid of Eastwood and Bothroyd and bring in 1 reliable goalscorer.

[funkym00se]

There should be striker clearout in the summer. SEB and Keogh are the only definites in terms of keeping. Elliott and S.Ward are versatile, so keep them. The jury's out on Kyle, but I'd get rid of Eastwood and Bothroyd and bring in 1 reliable goalscorer.

Yeah, what a reliable goal scorer Kyle is eh? his record proves it:p.

That is possibly as uneducated a post as i have read.

[Woburn Wolf]

wasteing his time at wolves. i dont think hes ever going to get a proper chance with mm.
Agreed. Hopefully he will still be around when MM's successor arrives.

[JR's Boots]

Send McCarthy out on loan rather than Eastwood.

[Dewsburywolf]

Send McCarthy out

Is what quite a few on here would prefer.

[RoffeyWolf]

wasteing his time at wolves. i dont think hes ever going to get a proper chance with mm.

Exactly. His record at this level is second to none.

[Kenny-11]

Exactly. His record at this level is second to none.

You missing a smiley there old boy?

[RoffeyWolf]

You missing a smiley there old boy?

No, I've just decided to join the crowd. I'm not going to bother with things like the truth or facts any more.

[SaleWolf]

No way on earth should Freddy go. Bothroyd yes but Freddy definately no.

I wonder if the buffoon still thinks Elliott is the answer to all of our problems on the right after his abject and frankly pathetic performance last night.

[Wolv3nsam]

Could be interesting, aren't we constantly after Kris Commons?

[HSV Wolf]

Mick is digging his own grave by creating a team of players in his own image from Barnsley,dour, workmanlike and crap......basically he confuses effort with achievement

Bothroyd is by far the most naturally talented player at the club....so what he has attitude, so do all naturally gifted players (Gazza, Bowles,Peter Knowles, Marsh etc etc) Freddy Eastwood is talented but his mind must be so messed up at not being given the chance to show it. Jarvis is only in to appease the fans...one bad game and he's out. A good manager would get the best out of them at this level....Roy keane obviously saw through him

For one this is the first year of not having a ST after 16 years and won't be back until he's gone.......If we ain't going up at least entertain us now and again

[Evolution Wolf]

i wouldnt be against him going for a month at forest to get him back on track the only fear i have is that alot of loans become permanent.

and just for the record i have a fair few mates who watch forest regularly and non rate Commons that highly many described him like Bothroyd turns up when he wants to

[The Bear]

I also know a Forest STH and he says the same about Commons.
Strangely enough he mentioned to me last week that they could do with someone like Eastwood on loan. I said they are welcome to him.

[GoldenHorseshoe]

Send McCarthy out on loan rather than Eastwood.

Mortgage loan....25 years

[Black Suit]

Send McCarthy out on loan rather than Eastwood.

Just sack the $$$$er instead, please.

PS Commons is a very average players boys and girls.

[Mr Wolf]

Ebanks-Blake, Keogh and Eastwood are the only strikers I would like to stay. The others I'm not really fussed about. You can't help but think though that if McCarthy stays Eastwood goes.

[SsgWolf]

its a shame we dont own kyle. if we did we could swap him for robert taylor or havard flo

[Essex Wolf]

The treatment of Eastwood still baffles me now but for McCarthy to play Kyle ahead of him says it all.

What exactly did Kyle do the other night up to him getting subbed?

[goldeneyed]

Unless MM goes Eastwood is on the way out. MM's handling of Eastwood has been a joke. We will lose at least £500,000 or more on him and I don't care what the anti-Eastwood brigade say, this guy will score a lot goals with the right service and a decent run in a team which does NOT HOOF. A tragic waste imv. With him and Bothroyd going and the likes of Elliott and inevitably Kyle being signed in the summer crowds are going to dwindle. MM does'nt have a clue at the moment and his limitations are being exposed to a frightening degree.

[Del Woppio]

The treatment of Eastwood still baffles me now but for McCarthy to play Kyle ahead of him says it all.

What exactly did Kyle do the other night up to him getting subbed?

Win almost verything that came near him. If people can't read his flicks 50% of the time, it's not his fault.

At least while you're blindly slating Kyle you're off Potter's back.

[Oldgoldwulf]

Commons is pants... seen him play a few times and really wasn't impressed.

Forest fans don't seem too enamoured by him either.

That's settled it - Mick will probably sign him in the summer!

[Wolv3nsam]

http://pasoti.co.uk/talk/viewtopic.php?t=16597

[Taffywolf]

He must be totally thick to allow Freddy out on loan.. Freddy is due a run alongside seb and should be given at least 3 games to show what he can do..

[Del Woppio]

It'd do him good to get back down to a level he's more comfortable with, and he'd get first team football for a month or so. Plus it'd limit the depreciation in his value.

[PabloWolfo]

Eastwood's face just doesn't fit as far as McCarthy is concerned, so it's got to be a good idea to get him out and playing somewhere else before his confidence in himself and Wolves is totally shot to $$$$. If we don't go up and Morgan loses patience with McCarthy, hopefully the next manager will get him back on the pitch and scoring for us next season.

[Taffywolf]

It'd do him good to get back down to a level he's more comfortable with, and he'd get first team football for a month or so. Plus it'd limit the depreciation in his value.

You can say the same thing about Keogh..

[Del Woppio]

Not with a straight face you can't.

[QB Wolf]

I can not believe that a manager would spend 1.5 million pound on a player and then limit his chances without justification.

I should imagine McCarthy is more annoyed than anyone, after all he's the one that has wasted all that money on a dud.

[QB Wolf]

You can say the same thing about Keogh..

One major difference Keogh is bothered!!

[Wolv3nsam]

I can not believe that a manager would spend 1.5 million pound on a player and then limit his chances without justification.

I should imagine McCarthy is more annoyed than anyone, after all he's the one that has wasted all that money on a dud.

At the time didn't Southend want about £2m-£2.5m?

[John]

I can not believe that a manager would spend 1.5 million pound on a player and then limit his chances without justification.

I should imagine McCarthy is more annoyed than anyone, after all he's the one that has wasted all that money on a dud.
I think the problem is that Mick has been too well backed which has allowed him to spend like a kid in a sweet shop and amass seven strikers. Previous managers would have had to play Freddy all season, as they wouldn't have been allowed to push him aside if it wasn't working out. Glenn had no choice but to keep playing Frankowski and hope he came good. Mick has had the luxury of just buying more strikers when ever one hasn't been an instant success.

[Wolv3nsam]

At least in the summer we can offload some of this crap. We need to buy about 5 defenders in the transfer window.. it's that bad.

It's quite diabolical when you look on the back of our program, I haven't see anybody match our long squad list all season.. and so many of the players listed are disgustingly average. Out of our current strikers I'd only keep SEB, Kyle (as an impact player) and Keogh.

[Still Proud]

I can not believe that a manager would spend 1.5 million pound on a player and then limit his chances without justification.

I should imagine McCarthy is more annoyed than anyone, after all he's the one that has wasted all that money on a dud.

The probelm is that managed correctly Freddy is not a dud, and most of the fans know it. If he goes and we lose £500k or so without him having the real oppotunity to show what he can do it will be a travesty.

If you want to talk about money wasted on a dud Mick blew a fair amount on the anonymous Elliott who keeps getting his chance!

By the way I agree at the mo that Eastwood should be behind SEB and Keogh, and he needs some coaching input to get him to work his postions more effectively

[Essex Wolf]

Win almost verything that came near him. If people can't read his flicks 50% of the time, it's not his fault.

At least while you're blindly slating Kyle you're off Potter's back.

Shame you spend so much time waiting to criticise me as opposed to seeing just how bad Kyle was.

McCarthy messed up yet again and the Kyle SEB pairing didn't work, end of.

I've already said that Kyle done well when he came on at Colchester but there is no way he should be starting games.

[Wolv3nsam]

McCarthy messed up yet again and the Kyle SEB pairing didn't work, end of.

It wouldn't be my first choice pairing but correct me if I'm wrong - they've only had one game together?

I suppose it's the fact that the SEB Keogh pairing could look like a working pair as they can read each other's games quite successfully - and they won't get played together!

[QB Wolf]

The probelm is that managed correctly Freddy is not a dud, and most of the fans know it. If he goes and we lose £500k or so without him having the real oppotunity to show what he can do it will be a travesty.


You have to question why hasn't he had an opportunity, what has Eastwood done to ensure that he is picked?

What the manager will be looking for is hard work in training, staying after training to work on things, making a real impact when getting limited opportunities, a desire to play and prove yourself in reserve games anything to get a chance. I wonder how much of this Eastwood has done, judging by his body language in games (which has improved slightly) I bet not much.

[John]

You have to question why hasn't he had an opportunity, what has Eastwood done to ensure that he is picked?

What the manager will be looking for is hard work in training, staying after training to work on things, making a real impact when getting limited opportunities, a desire to play and prove yourself in reserve games anything to get a chance. I wonder how much of this Eastwood has done, judging by his body language in games (which has improved slightly) I bet not much.
Enough people on here watch training. Perhaps some of them could let us know how hard he works compared to the other strikers who are getting in the side.

[Wolv3nsam]

Enough people on here watch training. Perhaps some of them could let us know how hard he works compared to the other strikers who are getting in the side.

I'm going tomorrow (providing they are actually training - I'm just assuming right now) so I could give you my point of view. ;) Last time I went he was doing shooting/free kick practice with Kightly, Keogh, Potter and Olofinjana whilst the others were playing a 'match'. This was back in August mind.

[Dr Wolfenstein]

The probelm is that managed correctly Freddy is not a dud, and most of the fans know it. If he goes and we lose £500k or so without him having the real oppotunity to show what he can do it will be a travesty.


Agreed. Criminal waste of talent, like we've got so much at the moment we can afford to grind it out of a naturally gifted player. Managerial obsession with work ethic & playing percentages &, in McCarthy's case, fear of losing overriding all other criteria, really $$$$es me off.

[Atlas 1951]

Not with a straight face you can't.

Sorry I'm late but I felt I had to congratulate you there, Del. Top riposte.

I'd rather see Eastwood on loan at a Championship team. Going to Forest wouldn't help him lose the "not proven at this level" tag.

[Wolfie2]

Doubt that he will go to Forest now that they have signed Brett Ormerod on loan.

[Dewsburywolf]

Doubt that he will go to Forest now that they have signed Brett Ormerod on loan.

Now there's a great alternative to Freddy. Whoopee bloody doo. Must be desperate.

No disrespect wolfie

[Paul76]

He just not good enough In my opinion. He's very One dimensional. He doesn't do enough. When you see Eastwood operating next to a forward like Keogh it makes him look dam idle.

[goldeneyed]

He just not good enough In my opinion. He's very One dimensional. He doesn't do enough. When you see Eastwood operating next to a forward like Keogh it makes him look dam idle.

Unlike Elliott whose power, heading ability, close control and deadly finishing make him absolutely indispensable. Or Kyle whose pace, one touch football, mobility and brilliant strike rate are also out of this world.

[Paul76]

Unlike Elliott whose power, heading ability, close control and deadly finishing make him absolutely indispensable. Or Kyle whose pace, one touch football, mobility and brilliant strike rate are also out of this world.

Yes but Elliot is versatile. He can do a job on the wing. He also works hard which is imperative.

I think Kyle has already proved that he adds something to our game that we didn't have, an aerial threat.

[Dewsburywolf]

I think Kyle has already proved that he adds something to our game that we didn't have, an aerial threat.

I thought that's why Collins always got picked? Arial threat at set pieces. No damned use anywhere else.

[Wolv3nsam]

They should introduce American Football rules to the English game, that way we can bring Collins and Kyle on for corners and then take them off afterwards.

[Dewsburywolf]

They should introduce American Football rules to the English game, that way we can bring Collins and Kyle on for corners and then take them off afterwards.

You'll be wanting Sin Bins for the boooing masses next. :eek: