Wolv3nsam
16-02-2008, 16:59
Rants go in here, please. :D
View Full Version : Verdict aka "Sack Mick McCarthy NOW" thread
Rocky_Balllboa
16-02-2008, 17:01
Its simple Morgan please sack the fool!
KAZZZZ
16-02-2008, 17:03
SACK THE MUPPET
how bad do you have to be to get sacked.
if he sacked him 2 months ago we would be in top 6 easily by now.
we have hardly no chance of doing anything under mm now this season, get rid and lets start building for next season.
he has lost the fans/players now so why give him longer.
how bad do you have to be to get sacked.
if he sacked him 2 months ago we would be in top 6 easily by now.
we have hardly no chance of doing anything under mm now this season, get rid and lets start building for next season.
he has lost the fans/players now so why give him longer.
Taffywolf
16-02-2008, 17:06
Mangers have been sacked for far far worse. He seems to have hit a brick wall and hasn't got the slighest idea how to change things around.. He's pig ignorant, Stubborn and his team play boring football. Wolves need a manager that is young, fresh and can improve with the squad. For that reason I would have to say Incey or Coleman....
Bend It Like Dennison
16-02-2008, 17:06
Clueless. Competely clueless.
The misery goes on. Only Morgan can end it.
The misery goes on. Only Morgan can end it.
JR's Boots
16-02-2008, 17:08
Get rid now and give the new man time to prepare us for next season.
OCD Wolf
16-02-2008, 17:10
I blame Moxey and Morgan, many fans saw this coming months ago, when Korea were sniffing around MM. Now our board look like total mugs, and frankly they deserve to.
'He's a quality manager' bleated Jez. You have steered us to one failure after another and one bad manager after the next. Morgan, sweep him clean and appoint YOUR manager.
'He's a quality manager' bleated Jez. You have steered us to one failure after another and one bad manager after the next. Morgan, sweep him clean and appoint YOUR manager.
De Wolfs Mullet
16-02-2008, 17:10
Thanks for your efforts last season Mick, but it is evident you are now clueless and haven't a clue what your best strike partnership let alone starting XI is. You're failure to address key weaknesses in the team during pre-season and the transfer window, and showing blatant nepotism towards your favourite ex-Sunderland / irish players means we are now a shambles.
As I said, thanks for your efforts, but goodbye
As I said, thanks for your efforts, but goodbye
northnorfolkwolf
16-02-2008, 17:12
I think protesting here has little or no effect. A big protest on Tuesday night, especially if the game is not going well, will have the desired effect
Hibbitt was King
16-02-2008, 17:12
Morgan is not going to sack a manager he's just allowed to spend a pile of cash in the transfer window. And anyway, didn't Moxey once say something like; we've got to stop being so uptight about promotion?
Wolv3nsam
16-02-2008, 17:13
And anyway, didn't Moxey once say something like; we've got to stop being so uptight about promotion?
Wasn't he the one who said we're aiming for automatic?
Wasn't he the one who said we're aiming for automatic?
Denmead Wolf
16-02-2008, 17:13
I defended Mick pre Xmas, but as each dismal performance has gone by, along with bad transfer activity, bad excuses, bad tactics and bad substitutions, I can defend him no longer. We have had so many different striker pairings this season its been rediculous. Then we doubled the amount of pairings in 90 minutes today i think.
I cant see anything to gain in keeping him now. 7 points off 6th, with the top 5 getting out of sight. More strikers than any other position, yet still we cant score. Its all very sad. I lost all faith with him on Tuesday when he said Blackpool away 0-0 was a good point. FFS.
If top 6 was his target, he is going to fail and therefore, he should go. So as it stands now, why not get someone in who has no pressure this season, but can look to have a full summer of transfer activity, get the team behind him for an assault next season. And I want a statement of top 2 being the target, not top 6.
Mick should walk today (via London so he can see what some fans had to put up with to make it to the game and then to watch that debacle). Sad day for us today. And we are having too many of those.
I cant see anything to gain in keeping him now. 7 points off 6th, with the top 5 getting out of sight. More strikers than any other position, yet still we cant score. Its all very sad. I lost all faith with him on Tuesday when he said Blackpool away 0-0 was a good point. FFS.
If top 6 was his target, he is going to fail and therefore, he should go. So as it stands now, why not get someone in who has no pressure this season, but can look to have a full summer of transfer activity, get the team behind him for an assault next season. And I want a statement of top 2 being the target, not top 6.
Mick should walk today (via London so he can see what some fans had to put up with to make it to the game and then to watch that debacle). Sad day for us today. And we are having too many of those.
we love jez moxey
16-02-2008, 17:14
If i was this bad at my job i would expect the sack. If i'd given all my equally inept friends a job, i'd expect a court case
JR's Boots
16-02-2008, 17:14
Morgan is not going to sack a manager he's just allowed to spend a pile of cash in the transfer window. And anyway, didn't Moxey once say something like; we've got to stop being so uptight about promotion?
Or the FA Cup.
Moxey will now state that we're aiming for mid table mediocrity and we're confident that McCarthy is the man to keep us there.
Or the FA Cup.
Moxey will now state that we're aiming for mid table mediocrity and we're confident that McCarthy is the man to keep us there.
Jonny Bull
16-02-2008, 17:14
I don't like to see anyone get sacked out of their job, particularly when you know they're trying their best. Sometimes, however, one's best just isn't good enough.
Sorry Mick, I've said it for a few weeks now. I'm as apathetic towards you and your team as I was with Hoddle's.
My concern is that you have failed to address the shortcomings many fans knew were there - even at the start of the season. And there doesn't seem to be any sign of a reversal of fortunes - or no words or actions of how you intend to do that.
Signing Kevin Kyle was perhaps the biggest indication that you've pressed the panic button and if nothing else works, try the long ball.
Sorry Mick. Time to go.
Sorry Mick, I've said it for a few weeks now. I'm as apathetic towards you and your team as I was with Hoddle's.
My concern is that you have failed to address the shortcomings many fans knew were there - even at the start of the season. And there doesn't seem to be any sign of a reversal of fortunes - or no words or actions of how you intend to do that.
Signing Kevin Kyle was perhaps the biggest indication that you've pressed the panic button and if nothing else works, try the long ball.
Sorry Mick. Time to go.
jaspa888
16-02-2008, 17:14
I would still rather wait until our final chances of going up (currently 7 points off 6th place - 8 points including goal diff) have diminished, and then take time to appoint the right man.
Emotions are high at the moment, and we could end up rushing through the wrong appointment if we sacked MM now.
Emotions are high at the moment, and we could end up rushing through the wrong appointment if we sacked MM now.
Elvis Wolf
16-02-2008, 17:16
I defended Mick pre Xmas, but as each dismal performance has gone by, along with bad transfer activity, bad excuses, bad tactics and bad substitutions, I can defend him no longer. We have had so many different striker pairings this season its been rediculous. Then we doubled the amount of pairings in 90 minutes today i think.
I cant see anything to gain in keeping him now. 7 points off 6th, with the top 5 getting out of sight. More strikers than any other position, yet still we cant score. Its all very sad. I lost all faith with him on Tuesday when he said Blackpool away 0-0 was a good point. FFS.
If top 6 was his target, he is going to fail and therefore, he should go. So as it stands now, why not get someone in who has no pressure this season, but can look to have a full summer of transfer activity, get the team behind him for an assault next season. And I want a statement of top 2 being the target, not top 6.
Mick should walk today (via London so he can see what some fans had to put up with to make it to the game and then to watch that debacle). Sad day for us today. And we are having too many of those.
Yo Mate U still on line?
Elvis W.
I cant see anything to gain in keeping him now. 7 points off 6th, with the top 5 getting out of sight. More strikers than any other position, yet still we cant score. Its all very sad. I lost all faith with him on Tuesday when he said Blackpool away 0-0 was a good point. FFS.
If top 6 was his target, he is going to fail and therefore, he should go. So as it stands now, why not get someone in who has no pressure this season, but can look to have a full summer of transfer activity, get the team behind him for an assault next season. And I want a statement of top 2 being the target, not top 6.
Mick should walk today (via London so he can see what some fans had to put up with to make it to the game and then to watch that debacle). Sad day for us today. And we are having too many of those.
Yo Mate U still on line?
Elvis W.
A wanderer from Bristol
16-02-2008, 17:16
I think protesting here has little or no effect. A big protest on Tuesday night, especially if the game is not going well, will have the desired effect
Agreed. Unrest in the stands and chants for the manager's head have usually been required for change in the past. I really hope SM acts sooner but I think MM won't jump, he will have to be pushed!
Agreed. Unrest in the stands and chants for the manager's head have usually been required for change in the past. I really hope SM acts sooner but I think MM won't jump, he will have to be pushed!
brummywolf
16-02-2008, 17:17
If, hypothetically, Morgan wants Ince to take over, then MM will probably be with us until the end of the season. Ince has made it clear that he wants to see out at least this season at MK Dons and therefore MM could be here until we pounce for Ince.
jaspa888
16-02-2008, 17:18
Morgan is not going to sack a manager he's just allowed to spend a pile of cash in the transfer window. And anyway, didn't Moxey once say something like; we've got to stop being so uptight about promotion?
All previous statements will be irrelevant if there is a poor takeup of Early Bird.
All previous statements will be irrelevant if there is a poor takeup of Early Bird.
Jonny Bull
16-02-2008, 17:20
Agreed. Unrest in the stands and chants for the manager's head have usually been required for change in the past. I really hope SM acts sooner but I think MM won't jump, he will have to be pushed!
This was a point I made in the commentary thread and whilst its easy for us on Molineux Mix to rant at home, the board will not listen to the fans unless there is action from the stands.
Apart from the traditional - and progressively louder - booing this season, I doubt the board will get rid of MM until supporters - as a significant majority - are united against him.
Shame really.
This was a point I made in the commentary thread and whilst its easy for us on Molineux Mix to rant at home, the board will not listen to the fans unless there is action from the stands.
Apart from the traditional - and progressively louder - booing this season, I doubt the board will get rid of MM until supporters - as a significant majority - are united against him.
Shame really.
Wolv3nsam
16-02-2008, 17:45
All previous statements will be irrelevant if there is a poor takeup of Early Bird.
Agreed. Morgan is after all running a business.
Agreed. Morgan is after all running a business.
Rightside Boy
16-02-2008, 17:47
I did not go to the game today however, i renewed my Early Bird this morning, it was one of the hardest decisions of my Wolves supporting years that i have done, i thought one more season have a go surely it will be ok.
Wolves i am fed up to the back teeth of giving everything and getting nowt in return. As a youth it did not matter how we did what division etc etc, now far more important things are in my life (i am 44) and i simply cannot put up with or deal with getting seen off and Wolves thats what you are doing to me. Sort it out because i simply have had enough of over paid under achieving so called professional people from the top to the bottom, i feel i have wasted £350 today. GUTTED.
Wolves i am fed up to the back teeth of giving everything and getting nowt in return. As a youth it did not matter how we did what division etc etc, now far more important things are in my life (i am 44) and i simply cannot put up with or deal with getting seen off and Wolves thats what you are doing to me. Sort it out because i simply have had enough of over paid under achieving so called professional people from the top to the bottom, i feel i have wasted £350 today. GUTTED.
Hibbitt was King
16-02-2008, 17:51
All previous statements will be irrelevant if there is a poor takeup of Early Bird.
That would mean a change in policy from when Hoddle wasn't sacked.
I don't see Morgan as a man to flip-flop myself. MM is here for the rest of the season.
That would mean a change in policy from when Hoddle wasn't sacked.
I don't see Morgan as a man to flip-flop myself. MM is here for the rest of the season.
Wolv3nsam
16-02-2008, 17:52
I'm at the stage right now where I just don't care if we win or lose under this man, I'm going to renew my season ticket because I just don't see how things could possibly get any worse and I'm living in hope we'll be under the guidance of somebody new next season.
Wolv3nsam
16-02-2008, 18:19
Mick McCarthy admitted to being "embarrassed" by his team's performance in the fifth round of the FA Cup this afternoon. Wolves went out of the competition after conceding two early goals.
The Wolves boss told his players to take heed of the comments that were being aimed at them by disgruntled fans.
He said: "It's been an awful day. Hopeless is the word I'd use. We were as bad as we have ever been.
"From the kick-off we lost possession . We've started the last three out of four games dreadfully.
"One or two of the players were upset by comments made by supporters as they were warming down - but that shouldn't be the case. Any stick they were getting was deserved. Terry Connor (coach) told them they should stay and listen.
"I feel sorry for the fans who have travelled here and had to watch that."
The Wolves manager opted for a 4-3-3 formation at the start of the tie. He reverted to 4-4-2 after about 20 minutes.
He added: "I'll never know whether that shape or that team would have done anything because we were a goal down after 80 seconds.
"It hurts and that hurt should be taken with us into Tuesday night's game against Scunthorpe. It's a vital game for us now."
The Wolves boss told his players to take heed of the comments that were being aimed at them by disgruntled fans.
He said: "It's been an awful day. Hopeless is the word I'd use. We were as bad as we have ever been.
"From the kick-off we lost possession . We've started the last three out of four games dreadfully.
"One or two of the players were upset by comments made by supporters as they were warming down - but that shouldn't be the case. Any stick they were getting was deserved. Terry Connor (coach) told them they should stay and listen.
"I feel sorry for the fans who have travelled here and had to watch that."
The Wolves manager opted for a 4-3-3 formation at the start of the tie. He reverted to 4-4-2 after about 20 minutes.
He added: "I'll never know whether that shape or that team would have done anything because we were a goal down after 80 seconds.
"It hurts and that hurt should be taken with us into Tuesday night's game against Scunthorpe. It's a vital game for us now."
brummywolf
16-02-2008, 18:51
Bloody hell, talk about a massive U-turn- it was only a few games ago that you weren't sure whether MM should be sacked, now you're starting threads like this.
astraltrader
16-02-2008, 18:52
Get rid of McCarthy - now!
Ulster Wolf
16-02-2008, 19:05
I really dont know how you regulars stick this? I mean, the performances are just totally toothless at the moment, and its quite clear that MM has let the ship run aground, and i dont think he can get it back in the water. I must admit i have been more patient than others with Mick considering his achievements last season, and i dont think anyone will ever understand how that same man can be responsible for destroying the wonderful position he had got ourselves into at the end of last season, but things are getting dire now.
Im afraid im happy for MM to go now. I appreciate what he did with so little last year, but his step forward last year has been followed by two huge strides backwards this year. I like everyone else never thought we'd be saying these things this season, but it really is a mess at the moment, and its crucial that we use whats left of this season wisely, and in my opinion that is get a new manager in now and give him the rest of this season to get a feel for things, rather than wait until the end of the season and have to waste most of the next one sorting out 'teething problems'.
Im afraid im happy for MM to go now. I appreciate what he did with so little last year, but his step forward last year has been followed by two huge strides backwards this year. I like everyone else never thought we'd be saying these things this season, but it really is a mess at the moment, and its crucial that we use whats left of this season wisely, and in my opinion that is get a new manager in now and give him the rest of this season to get a feel for things, rather than wait until the end of the season and have to waste most of the next one sorting out 'teething problems'.
johnybig32
16-02-2008, 19:06
Again, i dont want MM to go but i cannot see the benfit of him staying. He and Connor needs to go, NOW.
Connor needs to as i cannot bare seeing him in temp charge of the team tuesday!
There is just no direction to anything we are doing at the moment.
Connor needs to as i cannot bare seeing him in temp charge of the team tuesday!
There is just no direction to anything we are doing at the moment.
Tarcisio Mifsud
16-02-2008, 19:11
The problem is that you have to sack these gentlemen. Actually it should be their turn to deliver their resignation from the job as they are not performing at all, but still receiving a huge paypacket, which should not be the case.
northnorfolkwolf
16-02-2008, 19:12
Thick Mick too stubborn, too arrogant, just too plain thick to do the right and decent thing and resign. Think he willhave to put up with a barrage of insults etc etc on Tuesday however the match goes. And quite right - out of Cup with a whimper, 12 th in league and 6th place almost out of sight. Even he knows what he's in for in 3 nights time.
geowolf
16-02-2008, 19:19
Totally depressed with that. One game away from playing at Wembley and the players couldn't give a toss. Is there any spirit and determination, any leadership?? We've now got a big unbalanced squad full of average, unmotivated players, and I pity the poor guy who has to sort this mess out.
Wolv3nsam
16-02-2008, 19:20
Bloody hell, talk about a massive U-turn- it was only a few games ago that you weren't sure whether MM should be sacked, now you're starting threads like this.
It's been building up for a while, back as far as the Norwich game. But I put blind faith in him in hope that he'd actually turn it around, but he's failed to convince me and has to go.
It's been building up for a while, back as far as the Norwich game. But I put blind faith in him in hope that he'd actually turn it around, but he's failed to convince me and has to go.
goldeneyed
16-02-2008, 19:21
Thick Mick too stubborn, too arrogant, just too plain thick to do the right and decent thing and resign. Think he willhave to put up with a barrage of insults etc etc on Tuesday however the match goes. And quite right - out of Cup with a whimper, 12 th in league and 6th place almost out of sight. Even he knows what he's in for in 3 nights time.
Great just what we need at the moment, a torrent of foul-mouthed abuse etc. He is very well aware of the current mess, what is the point of bringing out the worst in the fans and the players. If things don't improve MM will almost certainly go. Unlike someone like Hoddle he does care and he has tried his best. He has made some bad mistakes but he has also been unlucky on the injury front. There is no miracle man ready to take his place and suddenly turn everything round. We should do our best to support the players and see the season out without creating a totally destructive atmosphere. Let nature take its course. MM's chances of survival are shrinking by the week.
Great just what we need at the moment, a torrent of foul-mouthed abuse etc. He is very well aware of the current mess, what is the point of bringing out the worst in the fans and the players. If things don't improve MM will almost certainly go. Unlike someone like Hoddle he does care and he has tried his best. He has made some bad mistakes but he has also been unlucky on the injury front. There is no miracle man ready to take his place and suddenly turn everything round. We should do our best to support the players and see the season out without creating a totally destructive atmosphere. Let nature take its course. MM's chances of survival are shrinking by the week.
Wolfman jack
16-02-2008, 19:35
I've siad it many times - fans usually sack the manager, not the board. At the last crisis (the Korean debacle) I felt the fans were 50.50.
Now its 90.10 I reckon. Whether he goes now, and Morgan Moxey hope a new manager can give us new impetus (anyone fancy this squad in the prem?) or Morgan Moxey waits until we fail by the end of the season remains to be seen. I will eat my hat if MM takes us into the play offs now (but don't quote me). He has lost the crowd, the dressing room,the local media and, maybe, the management.
Now its 90.10 I reckon. Whether he goes now, and Morgan Moxey hope a new manager can give us new impetus (anyone fancy this squad in the prem?) or Morgan Moxey waits until we fail by the end of the season remains to be seen. I will eat my hat if MM takes us into the play offs now (but don't quote me). He has lost the crowd, the dressing room,the local media and, maybe, the management.
johnybig32
16-02-2008, 19:38
Someone else said it...injuried are part of the game, you have to be prepared for them.
Injuries cannot be blamed. He has had time to get cover for them but would rather sign Kyle.
Injuries cannot be blamed. He has had time to get cover for them but would rather sign Kyle.
HIGHLANDER
16-02-2008, 19:46
He can't blame injuries when you consider that he has spent £9m on new players in the past 13 months. Kightly and maybe Murray are the only injured players that we have missed.
Wolv3nsam
16-02-2008, 19:47
Injuries cannot be blamed. He has had time to get cover for them but would rather sign Kyle.
The mad signing of strikers couldn't have done the morale of the others much good (Eastwood, Bothroyd) as it shows that MM has a lack of faith in them. The strikers don't know who they're going to be upfront with next game and if they'll even play in the next match.
Mark my words though Eastwood will start vs Scunthorpe because:
a) He deserves it after today, he made an immediate impact once he came on.
b) MM will do it to get the fans on his side.
The mad signing of strikers couldn't have done the morale of the others much good (Eastwood, Bothroyd) as it shows that MM has a lack of faith in them. The strikers don't know who they're going to be upfront with next game and if they'll even play in the next match.
Mark my words though Eastwood will start vs Scunthorpe because:
a) He deserves it after today, he made an immediate impact once he came on.
b) MM will do it to get the fans on his side.
Wolfman jack
16-02-2008, 19:50
Its interesting that Breen carried us throught he first half of last season, and Kites (largely)through the second half.
On a different note, MM's attitude towards Craddock in the first part of this year, then not playing Jarvis ,the Freddie Eastwood situation and the constant shuffling of players and positions suggests his judgement and man management are as poor as we were warned of by Sunderland fans.
On a different note, MM's attitude towards Craddock in the first part of this year, then not playing Jarvis ,the Freddie Eastwood situation and the constant shuffling of players and positions suggests his judgement and man management are as poor as we were warned of by Sunderland fans.
Wolv3nsam
16-02-2008, 19:53
On a different note, MM's attitude towards Craddock in the first part of this year, then not playing Jarvis ,the Freddie Eastwood situation and the constant shuffling of players and positions suggests his judgement and man management are as poor as we were warned of by Sunderland fans.
I can excuse him for Jarvis as we're now seeing the best of him and with hindsight it seems to have been the correct decision. Though I agree that carting Craddock off on loan didn't do him any favours (he's lucky Craddock is such a professional and just got on with it) and he's not handled Eastwood very well at all, although as I've mentioned before Eastwood needs to stake a claim and IMO he did that today somewhat.
I can excuse him for Jarvis as we're now seeing the best of him and with hindsight it seems to have been the correct decision. Though I agree that carting Craddock off on loan didn't do him any favours (he's lucky Craddock is such a professional and just got on with it) and he's not handled Eastwood very well at all, although as I've mentioned before Eastwood needs to stake a claim and IMO he did that today somewhat.
King Kenny
16-02-2008, 19:59
Great just what we need at the moment, a torrent of foul-mouthed abuse etc. He is very well aware of the current mess, what is the point of bringing out the worst in the fans and the players. If things don't improve MM will almost certainly go. Unlike someone like Hoddle he does care and he has tried his best. He has made some bad mistakes but he has also been unlucky on the injury front. There is no miracle man ready to take his place and suddenly turn everything round. We should do our best to support the players and see the season out without creating a totally destructive atmosphere. Let nature take its course. MM's chances of survival are shrinking by the week.
Unfortunately I don't think that he will go unless we make our feelings known. The big question is how do we do this? I don't think a bad atmosphere at the ground helps the players during a game and I want my early bird as this is our club and when mm has gone, it still will be. Any ideas for a unique, effective protest?
Unfortunately I don't think that he will go unless we make our feelings known. The big question is how do we do this? I don't think a bad atmosphere at the ground helps the players during a game and I want my early bird as this is our club and when mm has gone, it still will be. Any ideas for a unique, effective protest?
Wolfman jack
16-02-2008, 20:33
[QUOTE=Wolv3nsam;534728]The mad signing of strikers couldn't have done the morale of the others much good (Eastwood, Bothroyd) as it shows that MM has a lack of faith in them. The strikers don't know who they're going to be upfront with next game and if they'll even play in the next match.
This seems to epitomise MM's problems. The lack of goals this season was not due to poor strikers but to poor team selection and poor team shape - posters often said that any striker in the world would have struggled in this team.
P.S. according to 5live news, Watford lost to Cardiff 2-0 today. Are we still in the cup and this is all a dream?
This seems to epitomise MM's problems. The lack of goals this season was not due to poor strikers but to poor team selection and poor team shape - posters often said that any striker in the world would have struggled in this team.
P.S. according to 5live news, Watford lost to Cardiff 2-0 today. Are we still in the cup and this is all a dream?
Woburn Wolf
16-02-2008, 20:36
Get rid now and give the new man time to prepare us for next season.
As I have said many times before, my thoughts entirely.
As I have said many times before, my thoughts entirely.
Woburn Wolf
16-02-2008, 20:47
Morgan is not going to sack a manager he's just allowed to spend a pile of cash in the transfer window. And anyway, didn't Moxey once say something like; we've got to stop being so uptight about promotion?
Morgan should fire Moxey and McCarthy then and NorthNorfolk as regards the protest on Tuesday is concerned, I think any protest has to be big enough to make a real impact with Morgan which would mean either constant chants throughout the game of "There's only once Paul Ince/Big Sam", anti-McCarthy chants and "early bird you're having a laugh" or better still thousands of people outside the ground before and/or after the game demanding McCarthy's sacking.
Morgan should fire Moxey and McCarthy then and NorthNorfolk as regards the protest on Tuesday is concerned, I think any protest has to be big enough to make a real impact with Morgan which would mean either constant chants throughout the game of "There's only once Paul Ince/Big Sam", anti-McCarthy chants and "early bird you're having a laugh" or better still thousands of people outside the ground before and/or after the game demanding McCarthy's sacking.
scottishwolf II
16-02-2008, 20:47
[QUOTE=Wolv3nsam;534728]
P.S. according to 5live news, Watford lost to Cardiff 2-0 today. Are we still in the cup and this is all a dream?
I heard that as well - I assume its because we are so bad at the moment, 5 Live couldn't believe we beat Watford in the last round and assumed we hadn't...
P.S. according to 5live news, Watford lost to Cardiff 2-0 today. Are we still in the cup and this is all a dream?
I heard that as well - I assume its because we are so bad at the moment, 5 Live couldn't believe we beat Watford in the last round and assumed we hadn't...
SsgWolf
16-02-2008, 20:47
imho now is the time to she the club of mr moxey before if starts on bother 34727837687 failure cycle. moxeys support of mad mick and micks subsequent failure has left moxeys position untenable and they should both in now
Pengwern
16-02-2008, 20:55
Hardly any of the comments on here seem to be based on today's match. Most of the posters seem to use each match result, rather than match performance, as yet another 'McCarthy Out' argument.
Just about every manager, apart from those who manage the top 4 Prem clubs, has a poor run of results, but, given time, can get the team back to winning ways. McCarthy is no different and none of the managers out there are either. The best clubs stick together through the bad times until they either emerge the other side or don't and then get rid. Everybody else changes their manager after 2 years and has serial failure. We are one of those. We'll be baying for the blood of someone else in 2 years time and that won't work either.
Just about every manager, apart from those who manage the top 4 Prem clubs, has a poor run of results, but, given time, can get the team back to winning ways. McCarthy is no different and none of the managers out there are either. The best clubs stick together through the bad times until they either emerge the other side or don't and then get rid. Everybody else changes their manager after 2 years and has serial failure. We are one of those. We'll be baying for the blood of someone else in 2 years time and that won't work either.
dr cool
16-02-2008, 21:00
Hardly any of the comments on here seem to be based on today's match. Most of the posters seem to use each match result, rather than match performance, as yet another 'McCarthy Out' argument.
Just about every manager, apart from those who manage the top 4 Prem clubs, has a poor run of results, but, given time, can get the team back to winning ways. McCarthy is no different and none of the managers out there are either. The best clubs stick together through the bad times until they either emerge the other side or don't and then get rid. Everybody else changes their manager after 2 years and has serial failure. We are one of those. We'll be baying for the blood of someone else in 2 years time and that won't work either.
but do they all spend £10m in 14 months ?:eek:
dr:cool:
Just about every manager, apart from those who manage the top 4 Prem clubs, has a poor run of results, but, given time, can get the team back to winning ways. McCarthy is no different and none of the managers out there are either. The best clubs stick together through the bad times until they either emerge the other side or don't and then get rid. Everybody else changes their manager after 2 years and has serial failure. We are one of those. We'll be baying for the blood of someone else in 2 years time and that won't work either.
but do they all spend £10m in 14 months ?:eek:
dr:cool:
King Kenny
16-02-2008, 21:03
Morgan should fire Moxey and McCarthy then and NorthNorfolk as regards the protest on Tuesday is concerned, I think any protest has to be big enough to make a real impact with Morgan which would mean either constant chants throughout the game of "There's only once Paul Ince/Big Sam", anti-McCarthy chants and "early bird you're having a laugh" or better still thousands of people outside the ground before and/or after the game demanding McCarthy's sacking.
'Early bird you're having a laugh' is a good one but I don't think we all agree on a replacement so couldn't sing There's only one ---? Will enough people get together before the game?
Earlier in the week somebody on here suggested facing the back of the stand for 5 mins, not like we'd miss anything.
'Early bird you're having a laugh' is a good one but I don't think we all agree on a replacement so couldn't sing There's only one ---? Will enough people get together before the game?
Earlier in the week somebody on here suggested facing the back of the stand for 5 mins, not like we'd miss anything.
Pengwern
16-02-2008, 21:07
I recommend you all go on the BBC Sport website and watch the video of Mick's post-match interview. Its while (Gordon Strachan, I think) since I thought a reporter had come to close to being attacked by a manager; "I'd leave it at that, if I were you!"
Go on, you'll enjoy it!
Go on, you'll enjoy it!
LG Wolf
16-02-2008, 21:09
Just got back, truly awful day, both on AND off the pitch. Those who went know why.
Really can't be bothered to type anything else about the performance, only Hennessey deserves a quick mention.
Really can't be bothered to type anything else about the performance, only Hennessey deserves a quick mention.
Akaman
16-02-2008, 21:16
imho now is the time to she the club of mr moxey before if starts on bother 34727837687 failure cycle. moxeys support of mad mick and micks subsequent failure has left moxeys position untenable and they should both in now
The problems with predictive text!
Did you mean another disastrous failure cycle?!
Moxey's position is far from untenable, and he's trying to stick by the manager, which personally I think should be commended.... initially. Moxey's problem now is that MM's making it increasingly difficult for him to stick with his guns and defend the manager.
The problems with predictive text!
Did you mean another disastrous failure cycle?!
Moxey's position is far from untenable, and he's trying to stick by the manager, which personally I think should be commended.... initially. Moxey's problem now is that MM's making it increasingly difficult for him to stick with his guns and defend the manager.
kidder_wolf_II
16-02-2008, 21:25
Just got backfrom the game truelly pathetic from everyone involved in the club today from the coaches to the players.
I had turned on MM after Barnsley away why cant Moxey and Morgan see what pretty much all of us can. Have we heard from Morgan since he took over? Its time he made himself known but he seems happy to let Moxey run the club.
Its your club Morgan and WE want to know what the hell is going on. Your a successful businessman so why the hell are we paying Moxey 400k a year to do a job you could and should be doing.
I had turned on MM after Barnsley away why cant Moxey and Morgan see what pretty much all of us can. Have we heard from Morgan since he took over? Its time he made himself known but he seems happy to let Moxey run the club.
Its your club Morgan and WE want to know what the hell is going on. Your a successful businessman so why the hell are we paying Moxey 400k a year to do a job you could and should be doing.
Wolv3nsam
16-02-2008, 22:19
or better still thousands of people outside the ground before and/or after the game demanding McCarthy's sacking.
Shoe off, if you want Mick out...
Shoe off, if you want Mick out...
Pengwern
16-02-2008, 23:43
Just watched MOD, which gave extensive coverage of our game & can't say we were at fault for either of their goals, which were top class & would have been goals v Prem sides, too.
Space Wolf
16-02-2008, 23:46
If you want a visual protest then just enter the ground 10 minutes after kick off (you'll probably miss the early goal for the opposition but still).
As with most talk about protests, it's all hot air and nothing will happen.
As with most talk about protests, it's all hot air and nothing will happen.
Ulster Wolf
17-02-2008, 00:15
Just watched MOD, which gave extensive coverage of our game & can't say we were at fault for either of their goals, which were top class & would have been goals v Prem sides, too.
Mick..... is that you????:confused:
Mick..... is that you????:confused:
Stewarton Wolf
17-02-2008, 00:16
Just watched MOD, which gave extensive coverage of our game & can't say we were at fault for either of their goals, which were top class & would have been goals v Prem sides, too.
:D:D:D
:D:D:D
Wolv3nsam
17-02-2008, 00:17
Just watched MOD, which gave extensive coverage of our game & can't say we were at fault for either of their goals, which were top class & would have been goals v Prem sides, too.
I have to admit it made me $$$$ myself when Breen was sprinting back when Whittingham was 1v1 with Hennessey. :D:D:D
I have to admit it made me $$$$ myself when Breen was sprinting back when Whittingham was 1v1 with Hennessey. :D:D:D
Metro Wolf 2007
17-02-2008, 00:37
If you want a visual protest then just enter the ground 10 minutes after kick off (you'll probably miss the early goal for the opposition but still).
As with most talk about protests, it's all hot air and nothing will happen.
I don't know .... the Sheffield United protest seemed to do the trick for them.
Personally I think 90 minutes of "McCarthy Out" followed by a demonstration outside the ground in Waterloo Road covered by Sky Sports News (someone tip them off) should do it....
As with most talk about protests, it's all hot air and nothing will happen.
I don't know .... the Sheffield United protest seemed to do the trick for them.
Personally I think 90 minutes of "McCarthy Out" followed by a demonstration outside the ground in Waterloo Road covered by Sky Sports News (someone tip them off) should do it....
Wolv3nsam
17-02-2008, 00:41
The thing is as someone mentioned on here I imagine large parts of Molineux are still pro-Mick although I recall chants of "There's only one Paul Ince" during the Palace game.
How about chants of "McCarthy or Us"?
How about chants of "McCarthy or Us"?
Oldgold Wolfcub
17-02-2008, 00:46
Mick..... is that you????:confused:
If he is trying to find the dressing room it probably is.
If he is trying to find the dressing room it probably is.
Hawkins discuss
17-02-2008, 08:38
"I feel sorry for the fans who have travelled here and had to watch that."
The Wolves manager opted for a 4-3-3 formation at the start of the tie. He reverted to 4-4-2 after about 20 minutes.
He added: "I'll never know whether that shape or that team would have done anything because we were a goal down after 80 seconds.
"It hurts and that hurt should be taken with us into Tuesday night's game against Scunthorpe. It's a vital game for us now."
Quoted from a man who takes no notice of the league tables
This match was a complete no no
Our previous incumbent had the game sorted from Kick off
Knew the style of play ie look totaly proffesional for 4 minutes of the first half and then fall over because all the players get too far forward
trying to look industrious (happens every game)
The silence on the return trip was athunderous
The game was 1 way after 5 minutes no shape and no ideas
And for those that didnt go
If some fans think that Breens return was going to help bing this big turnaround in our season forget it
As for some wanting Ince as manager well it might work
But I personally think We should start from the backroom and then work forward
>>>Only 14 games to go and top championship form to achieve and
we will make the playoffs<<<
(Im afraid after yesterdays debacle Maria Callas has picked up the microphone)
The Wolves manager opted for a 4-3-3 formation at the start of the tie. He reverted to 4-4-2 after about 20 minutes.
He added: "I'll never know whether that shape or that team would have done anything because we were a goal down after 80 seconds.
"It hurts and that hurt should be taken with us into Tuesday night's game against Scunthorpe. It's a vital game for us now."
Quoted from a man who takes no notice of the league tables
This match was a complete no no
Our previous incumbent had the game sorted from Kick off
Knew the style of play ie look totaly proffesional for 4 minutes of the first half and then fall over because all the players get too far forward
trying to look industrious (happens every game)
The silence on the return trip was athunderous
The game was 1 way after 5 minutes no shape and no ideas
And for those that didnt go
If some fans think that Breens return was going to help bing this big turnaround in our season forget it
As for some wanting Ince as manager well it might work
But I personally think We should start from the backroom and then work forward
>>>Only 14 games to go and top championship form to achieve and
we will make the playoffs<<<
(Im afraid after yesterdays debacle Maria Callas has picked up the microphone)
Essex Wolf
17-02-2008, 09:02
Verdict= Cowardice in the face of the enemy.
Really cannot be bothered to give individual comments because whilst some were a tad better than others overall the whole starting team were utter rubbish.
Possibly one of he worst performances I've seen by a Wolves side in many many years and for such a game I would at the very least expect effort but saw none.
In a nutshell, disgraceful performance, useless tactics, clueless formation and same old same old.
Really cannot be bothered to give individual comments because whilst some were a tad better than others overall the whole starting team were utter rubbish.
Possibly one of he worst performances I've seen by a Wolves side in many many years and for such a game I would at the very least expect effort but saw none.
In a nutshell, disgraceful performance, useless tactics, clueless formation and same old same old.
MK Panther
17-02-2008, 09:19
Perhaps Mick is more intelligent than we thought. After much deliberation he is thinking we do not need a cup run lets get out of the cup and concentrate on the league.
This guy is dynamite, I just hope his plans do not go pear-shaped!
This guy is dynamite, I just hope his plans do not go pear-shaped!
wolfie smith
17-02-2008, 10:10
is this all down to the young and hungry policy?? young players from lower leagues, clearly not good enough for promotion, start to lose a few games and all confidence goes, too young to fight back?
its not been helped by the managers decisions all season but for me the inexperience is killing the side. we've needed some experience to guide us through the bad times but the policy is for young upcoming players, there has to be a balance, some quality needed injecting in the side and i know its difficult during the window to get anyone in but loans were available.
so for me the young policy is flawed if we want promotion, sticking with these players will ruin their confidence until its shot and we are relegated.
mccarthy has tried the boring protect the back four at all costs defensive set up, it clearly hasnt worked, lets just go for it for the rest of the season we have nothing to lose, if mccarthy does that and it turns us round then he can stay, if he doesnt and continues to bore the pants off the crowd then he can go.
replaced by a young attacking manager with guts.
its not been helped by the managers decisions all season but for me the inexperience is killing the side. we've needed some experience to guide us through the bad times but the policy is for young upcoming players, there has to be a balance, some quality needed injecting in the side and i know its difficult during the window to get anyone in but loans were available.
so for me the young policy is flawed if we want promotion, sticking with these players will ruin their confidence until its shot and we are relegated.
mccarthy has tried the boring protect the back four at all costs defensive set up, it clearly hasnt worked, lets just go for it for the rest of the season we have nothing to lose, if mccarthy does that and it turns us round then he can stay, if he doesnt and continues to bore the pants off the crowd then he can go.
replaced by a young attacking manager with guts.
Edgmond Wolf
17-02-2008, 12:19
This thread is really depressing...
Very few thoughts on the game more lets get rid of the manager blah blah blah
Let's not mix up the 'verdict' with 99% of the other threads
While Mick's not having a good run at the moment the crowd at the Mol is not represented by the few on here. You get very little of get rid of Mick etc.
In fact I bet the South Bank will be behind the lads from the off on Tuesday ;)
Very few thoughts on the game more lets get rid of the manager blah blah blah
Let's not mix up the 'verdict' with 99% of the other threads
While Mick's not having a good run at the moment the crowd at the Mol is not represented by the few on here. You get very little of get rid of Mick etc.
In fact I bet the South Bank will be behind the lads from the off on Tuesday ;)
Neptune
17-02-2008, 13:47
thats what i was going to say, Edgmond...i dont see a single verdict (with player ratings) on this whole thread
there are 9-15 other "sack McCarthy now" threads going...cant we talk about sacking McCarthy on those and leave the verdict thread for verdicts?
i give this verdict thread a rating of 0
there are 9-15 other "sack McCarthy now" threads going...cant we talk about sacking McCarthy on those and leave the verdict thread for verdicts?
i give this verdict thread a rating of 0
SmokeyGB
17-02-2008, 13:47
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/fa_cup/7224059.stm
That after match talk was true to the heart, I also feared for the guy talking to MM at end, was about to give him a Barnsley chop if he carried on.
That after match talk was true to the heart, I also feared for the guy talking to MM at end, was about to give him a Barnsley chop if he carried on.
Space Wolf
17-02-2008, 13:48
I don't know .... the Sheffield United protest seemed to do the trick for them.
Personally I think 90 minutes of "McCarthy Out" followed by a demonstration outside the ground in Waterloo Road covered by Sky Sports News (someone tip them off) should do it....
I didn't mean that a protest wouldn't force the boards hand. But that everyone on here talks about a protest and I bet nothing will happen on Tuesday.
Molineux Mix isn't representative of all Wolves fans. Whilst quite a few on here now want McCarthy out, I bet the total number of people who want him out who attend games is a lot lower.
Apart from the lack of Super Mick chants, I've heard nothing at home games to suggest the crowd are turning on him. Yes there were the boos at half time and full time but nothing personally against McCarthy.
Personally I think 90 minutes of "McCarthy Out" followed by a demonstration outside the ground in Waterloo Road covered by Sky Sports News (someone tip them off) should do it....
I didn't mean that a protest wouldn't force the boards hand. But that everyone on here talks about a protest and I bet nothing will happen on Tuesday.
Molineux Mix isn't representative of all Wolves fans. Whilst quite a few on here now want McCarthy out, I bet the total number of people who want him out who attend games is a lot lower.
Apart from the lack of Super Mick chants, I've heard nothing at home games to suggest the crowd are turning on him. Yes there were the boos at half time and full time but nothing personally against McCarthy.
Oldgold Wolfcub
17-02-2008, 13:55
thats what i was going to say, Edgmond...i dont see a single verdict (with player ratings) on this whole thread
there are 9-15 other "sack McCarthy now" threads going...cant we talk about sacking McCarthy on those and leave the verdict thread for verdicts?
i give this verdict thread a rating of 0
There was another verdict thread started. It was actually suggested last week that there should be two verdict threads - one to moan about Mick and the other to discuss the match.
there are 9-15 other "sack McCarthy now" threads going...cant we talk about sacking McCarthy on those and leave the verdict thread for verdicts?
i give this verdict thread a rating of 0
There was another verdict thread started. It was actually suggested last week that there should be two verdict threads - one to moan about Mick and the other to discuss the match.
Wolv3nsam
17-02-2008, 14:56
There was another verdict thread started. It was actually suggested last week that there should be two verdict threads - one to moan about Mick and the other to discuss the match.
We should make a moaning thread, sticky it and then put all of our whinging and complaints in there. Saves multiple threads being made on the same subject which seems to be sacking Mick these days.
We should make a moaning thread, sticky it and then put all of our whinging and complaints in there. Saves multiple threads being made on the same subject which seems to be sacking Mick these days.
one4canel
17-02-2008, 14:59
auf wiedersehen pet :o
what a load of tosh that plastic paddy serves us wolves fans up
cant wait till the scunny game ,, cus if we dont deliver some sort of battle and put them to the sword and win the three points that are on offer , well i dont think i will be the only one after the match venting my anger at that so called thick mick i know what i am doing mc carthy
hes papered over the cracks once to often and us fans aint to blame :mad:
what a load of tosh that plastic paddy serves us wolves fans up
cant wait till the scunny game ,, cus if we dont deliver some sort of battle and put them to the sword and win the three points that are on offer , well i dont think i will be the only one after the match venting my anger at that so called thick mick i know what i am doing mc carthy
hes papered over the cracks once to often and us fans aint to blame :mad:
SaleWolf
17-02-2008, 15:29
Dire, inept performance. Even on this seasons performances, it was awful, even worse than Hull at home and away.
Other than the buffoon we have in charge, the guy who should be criticised most imo should be Olifinjana. The guy did not want to know from the kick off. Yet another fairy like performance from this guy who, like Bothroyd, only really performs when he can be arsed.
The whole day was awful yesterday, the fans were treated like cattle and charged 35 quid for the privelege. The police weren't as draconian as i thought they maybe however apart from the crush that predictably happenned when they kept us in the ground.
Apathy will rule imo for the rest of the season should Mccarthy stay in charge and i think the lowest ever Early bird take up will follow.
Lose on Tuesday and i think Mccarthy will be packing his bags. Although i hope its sooner than that.
Other than the buffoon we have in charge, the guy who should be criticised most imo should be Olifinjana. The guy did not want to know from the kick off. Yet another fairy like performance from this guy who, like Bothroyd, only really performs when he can be arsed.
The whole day was awful yesterday, the fans were treated like cattle and charged 35 quid for the privelege. The police weren't as draconian as i thought they maybe however apart from the crush that predictably happenned when they kept us in the ground.
Apathy will rule imo for the rest of the season should Mccarthy stay in charge and i think the lowest ever Early bird take up will follow.
Lose on Tuesday and i think Mccarthy will be packing his bags. Although i hope its sooner than that.
Edgmond Wolf
17-02-2008, 15:34
It is only a few games from the mini revival...
Maybe another is around the corner starting on Tuesday ;)
Maybe another is around the corner starting on Tuesday ;)
HSV Wolf
17-02-2008, 18:07
Just wished he'd sod off and take the Sunderland old Boys with him...they were crap when they were with him last....so why should he expect them to suddenly turn into world beaters
Two words sum Mad Mick Up....kevin Kyle WTF
Two words sum Mad Mick Up....kevin Kyle WTF
Wolv3nsam
17-02-2008, 19:45
Presenting the muppet show. Mick McCarthy as Sam the Eagle, Bryan Robson as Fozzy Bear and Iain Dowie as Kermit the Frog. ;)
Woburn Wolf
17-02-2008, 20:47
This thread is really depressing...
Very few thoughts on the game more lets get rid of the manager blah blah blah
Let's not mix up the 'verdict' with 99% of the other threads
While Mick's not having a good run at the moment the crowd at the Mol is not represented by the few on here. You get very little of get rid of Mick etc.
In fact I bet the South Bank will be behind the lads from the off on Tuesday ;)
I agree but "the lads" don't include McCarthy. Hopefully an increasing number of "There's only one Paul Ince" will bee heard.
Very few thoughts on the game more lets get rid of the manager blah blah blah
Let's not mix up the 'verdict' with 99% of the other threads
While Mick's not having a good run at the moment the crowd at the Mol is not represented by the few on here. You get very little of get rid of Mick etc.
In fact I bet the South Bank will be behind the lads from the off on Tuesday ;)
I agree but "the lads" don't include McCarthy. Hopefully an increasing number of "There's only one Paul Ince" will bee heard.
Woburn Wolf
17-02-2008, 20:52
This thread is really depressing...
Very few thoughts on the game more lets get rid of the manager blah blah blah
Let's not mix up the 'verdict' with 99% of the other threads
While Mick's not having a good run at the moment the crowd at the Mol is not represented by the few on here. You get very little of get rid of Mick etc.
In fact I bet the South Bank will be behind the lads from the off on Tuesday ;)
I agree that they will be behind "the lads" but McCarthy is not one of the lads. Hopefully there will be considerably more South Bankers singing "There's only one Paul Ince" than there were at the Stoke game.
Very few thoughts on the game more lets get rid of the manager blah blah blah
Let's not mix up the 'verdict' with 99% of the other threads
While Mick's not having a good run at the moment the crowd at the Mol is not represented by the few on here. You get very little of get rid of Mick etc.
In fact I bet the South Bank will be behind the lads from the off on Tuesday ;)
I agree that they will be behind "the lads" but McCarthy is not one of the lads. Hopefully there will be considerably more South Bankers singing "There's only one Paul Ince" than there were at the Stoke game.
