Kyle in on loan?

[Del Boy]

http://www.coventrycity-mad.co.uk/news/loadnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=374821

[Big Mack]

He was off to Celtic this morning!?

[Davebull]

7 strikers in the first team squad ??!!

[Bumbamuffin]

I will become less positive than Essex Wolf if this happens.

My night is in ruins.

[Wombourne Wolf]

This is one player I truly hope we don't sign.

[Muscat]

I really, really, really struggle to believe there is any truth in that.

[Wolv3nsam]

Why would Mick sign another striker when 4 of ours have scored once each in the last two games?

[PabloWolfo]

Unless we're losing 2 strikers imminently, I really can't see that happening, nor would I want it to...

[goldfish]

When I visit Newsnow I often get excited at a story like "French U21 Star Signs For Wolves", only to discover it's Bundesliga side Wolfsburg. Perhaps this is a case of wrong-Wolves too.

Please God, let it be a case of wrong Wolves. Let it be Wolfsburg. Or Wollagong Wolves. Even just give him to a pack of wolves. Anything, anything, anything but Kevin Kyle at Molineux.

[wolvesman]

When I visit Newsnow I often get excited at a story like "French U21 Star Signs For Wolves", only to discover it's Bundesliga side Wolfsburg. Perhaps this is a case of wrong-Wolves too.

Please God, let it be a case of wrong Wolves. Let it be Wolfsburg. Or Wollagong Wolves. Even just give him to a pack of wolves. Anything, anything, anything but Kevin Kyle at Molineux.


I've got a horrible feeling that there might be something in this story.:eek:

[Super Hans]

I hope there is no truth in this story as he is poor. ####poor!

[PabloWolfo]

I've got a horrible feeling that there might be something in this story.:eek:

I'm just hoping he's knocked football on the head to have a go at speedway...or moving to Warrington for a spot of Rugby!

[Powelly]

Had a text at 4pm today to suggest Kyle was on his way..

Cant say id be surprised given Mick's track record on going back for his old players..

Wouldnt be surprised if Eastwood goes out on Loan somewhere as it appears he is well down the pecking order

[Devonwolf]

He was off to Celtic this morning!?

Yes it was on Sky Sports earlier

[cooper_J]

You are thinking of Lafferty.

The player we are being linked with is that almighty lump who plays (if you can call it that) for Coventry.

I really think there is nothing in this. If there is, it suggests MM wants a forward line full of players who have been in trouble with the law.

[fielden05]

Kevin Kyle has been at Molineux all day. When i went to meet a mate by the legends club earlier, the stewards told me he parked his car outside there earlier and was in to watch the game tonight!

[brummywolf]

Don't do it Mick. We don't need another striker- let alone a trouble-making waster like Kevin Kyle. If this happens, I'll be both flabbergasted and gutted.

[Jack]

I've got a mate who works at the club and he was definitely at the training ground earlier. Somebody must be on their way out...

[wanderer24]

He is $$$$ing awful.

[wolverine mick]

somebody mentioned that he was at the ground last night, and that 2 of our players are on the way out today or tomorrow

[JR's Boots]

No, please God no. Cov fans can't stand him and they are used to watching garbage.

[Pig]

I've got a mate who works at the club and he was definitely at the training ground earlier. Somebody must be on their way out...

Kyle was there all day. McCarthy would like Eastwood to go the other way, but he is not keen.

[dr cool]

somebody mentioned that he was at the ground last night, and that 2 of our players are on the way out today or tomorrow

clapham and rosa.......?

dr:cool:

[wolverine mick]

clapham and rosa.......?

dr:cool:


Like the sound of that, but heard Eastwood is going on loan

[Wolv3nsam]

Why would Eastwood be going out on loan when he has a broken hand plus Mick says he has a future here?

Eastwood out and Kyle in is an awful trade, if that happens Mick has put the final nail in his coffin regardless of how the team are performing.

[dr cool]

Like the sound of that, but heard Eastwood is going on loan

norwich ?

[Wolv3nsam]

Just three days ago or so Mick was saying Keogh and SEB were 'the' partnership, what's changed?

I have a very, very horrible gut feeling this is true.

[wallace]

wouldnt be suprised if freddie is on his way but kyle coming in? is he trying to build a stronger reserve team squad?

[Wolv3nsam]

wouldnt be suprised if freddie is on his way but kyle coming in? is he trying to build a stronger reserve team squad?

http://www.expressandstar.com/2008/01/26/striker-assured-of-wolves-future/

[Mutchy]

Why would Eastwood be going out on loan when he has a broken hand plus Mick says he has a future here?

if that happens Mick has put the final nail in his coffin regardless of how the team are performing.

I don't get that... you'd want rid of a manager who's team was doing well? How can Eastwood be more important than anything else?

[Wolv3nsam]

I don't get that... you'd want rid of a manager who's team was doing well? How can Eastwood be more important than anything else?

I meant that he's lost the fans if he does that, Eastwood is a firm fans favourite and Kyle can't hit a barn door.

I will also be surprised because according to my Coventry supporting friend Dowie thinks the sun shines out of Kyle's backside.

[Wednesbury Wolf]

One thing's an absolute certainty if he does go to Coventry or elsewhere he will bang the goals in on a regular basis.

[Wolv3nsam]

I'd rather have Hartson than Kyle.. that says it all.

[wolverine mick]

I'd rather have Hartson than Kyle.. that says it all.


I'd rather have neither

[ProudWolf]

If Kyle comes in it will be as a squad/bench player. Someone to win aerial battles if the game turns into a scrap or someone to get onto the end of crosses.
He's just a different type of striker to what we have got. You need a blend. Not sure why people think he'd start every game.

[Redditch Wolves]

If Kyle comes in it will be as a squad/bench player. Someone to win aerial battles if the game turns into a scrap or someone to get onto the end of crosses.
He's just a different type of striker to what we have got. You need a blend. Not sure why people think he'd start every game.

I don't want him anywhere near the bench not alone the starting line-up, what a load of tosh

[Wolv3nsam]

If Kyle comes in it will be as a squad/bench player. Someone to win aerial battles if the game turns into a scrap or someone to get onto the end of crosses.
He's just a different type of striker to what we have got. You need a blend. Not sure why people think he'd start every game.

If he came he should be the lowest striker in the pecking order, he shouldn't even make bench duty ahead of Bothroyd and Freddy.

The annoying thing is there are far more issues in the squad than just the striking department - LB, CB, LM and RM to name a few.

[Wolv3nsam]

I can see the Kevin Kyle signing speech already

"He'll add good competition for places up front and offers a different threat with his aerial presence. I know him well from my time at Sunderland and he will hopefully knick us a goal or two keeping the other strikers on their toes"

:rolleyes:

[Oldgoldwulf]

$$$$ me... Stephen Elliott, Neill Collins... now apparently Kevin Kyle.

Why not go the whole hog and bring in Carl Robinson and Jeff Whitley???

I've no problem with a manager bringing in his some of his old favourites but it might help if some of the players had a bit of ABILITY!

Kyle is an absolute donkey!!!

Admitedly Elliott puts the effort in - but does anyone think he's really good enough for a concerted promotion push???

And as for Collins - pah... never a footballer in a million years!!!

Come on Mick - stop looking at Sunderland rejects and use your scouting network for god's sake...

They've proved that we can unearth some gems... Keogh, Kightly, Jarvis, Edwards, Ebanks-Blake...

Then you go and shoot yourself in the foot by bringing in yer old buddies...

Really not good enough... especially if Kyle comes in at Freddys expense... give him a chance ffs.

I really really hope this is just an unfounded rumour but sadly it seems like this one has some substance.

Just when things were looking up... sigh

[Wolv3nsam]

Elliot was good enough for the Sunderland promotion push where he scored 16 goals.

[ProudWolf]

Looking at the forwards we have I wouldn't disagree with Mick about bringing in someone who is really good in the air. Again its about having different options on the bench or just even in the whole squad.
I just hoped there would be someone better than Kyle to bring in.

[Netherton Wolf]

We get Kyle and Coventry get McSheffrey!!! I knows whos getting the better deal there!

[Wolv3nsam]

Looking at the forwards we have I wouldn't disagree with Mick about bringing in someone who is really good in the air. Again its about having different options on the bench or just even in the whole squad.
I just hoped there would be someone better than Kyle.

I'm all for buying a target man such as Lafferty, but Kevin Kyle ffs?

[ProudWolf]

I'm all for buying a target man such as Lafferty, but Kevin Kyle ffs?

I dont really want Kyle but who else is around?

Rob Hulse, or someone like that, but he's in Sheff Utd's first team and would cost a bit.
Lafferty has hardly played upfront for Burnley and would cost millions.

[Wolv3nsam]

I dont really want Kyle but who else is around?

Rob Hulse, or someone like that, but he's in Sheff Utd's first team and would cost a bit.
Lafferty has hardly played upfront for Burnley and would cost millions.

Hulse has been dropped from the 16 in the last two matches after Robson promised a 'reshuffle'.

[ProudWolf]

Hulse has been dropped from the 16 in the last two matches after Robson promised a 'reshuffle'.

He started for them last night

[Oldgoldwulf]

Elliot was good enough for the Sunderland promotion push where he scored 16 goals.


Ancient history - i've seen him play seven or eight times this season...

He doesn't look like a 16 goal striker to me!

Come to think about it... he doesn't look like a striker at all.

Good luck to him (and I do appreciate the fact that he 'puts a shift in') but I don't think we should keep going after these mediocre players.

What? Are we totally skint all of a sudden..?

Quality not quantity and all that.

You can clap Micks every decision all you want mate but it won't convince me that Kyle, Elliott and Collins are good players!

Average at best.

[wolverine mick]

http://www.expressandstar.com/2008/01/30/wolves-sign-striker/

I know it's the e&s but.....

[Wolv3nsam]

He started for them last night

Oh he did, my mistake. :rolleyes:

[Wolv3nsam]

http://www.expressandstar.com/2008/01/30/wolves-sign-striker/

I know it's the e&s but.....

Dear sweet lord... this story is everywhere, I think there's some truth in it.

[Oldgoldwulf]

YET ANOTHER STRIKER... AND A $$$$ ONE TOO!!!

No need to get cover in for Kightly or maybe even a young centre half???

Just when I was thinking that maybe i'd been wrong about you Mick you go and make another ridiculous decision.

Superb... s'pose Eastwood or Bothroyd will be on their way out then..?

Tremendous work Thick Mick.

[Wolv3nsam]

Stewarton, Woburn and BILD are going to have a field day with this loan signing.

[Pig]

That's it then.

[Wolv3nsam]

At least it's only a loan signing I suppose, hopefully he'll be his usual donkey self and fail to impress.

[Rocky_Balllboa]

Jesus, Mick has no clue if this is true.

[Wolv3nsam]

At least we have a new scapegoat :D

[Oldgoldwulf]

Ok... but what do you expect them to say?

Do YOU actually think that this is a good signing???

1) Is it a priority to sign another striker or are there other areas that need addressing first?

2) Do you think this guy has anything to offer us?

3) Who would you drop to accomodate Kyle?

4) If we did actually need a striker at the moment would KK be your choice?

[Langdale Wolf]

Nice to hear everyone has got behind him before he's even played or indeed signed.

A very strange decision I must admit, but IF he joins, he'll be a Wolves player and we should get behind him. The loan deal makes me think it's a stop gap signing to add some height to the forward line.

Let's give the guy a chance FFS.

[Wolv3nsam]

Ok... but what do you expect them to say?

Do YOU actually think that this is a good signing???

1) Is it a priority to sign another striker or are there other areas that need addressing first?

2) Do you think this guy has anything to offer us?

3) Who would you drop to accomodate Kyle?

4) If we did actually need a striker at the moment would KK be your choice?

1) I'd address LB and CB first, though we have been crying out for some height up top.

2) Aerial presence and he might get us some red cards.

3) I would only put him on bench duty and even then I don't know who I'd drop from the bench.

4) No. Lafferty would be my first choice for someone with aerial ability.

[Wolv3nsam]

Nice to hear everyone has got behind him before he's even played or indeed signed.

A very strange decision I must admit, but IF he joins, he'll be a Wolves player and we should get behind him. The loan deal makes me think it's a stop gap signing to add some height to the forward line.

Let's give the guy a chance FFS.

The Coventry fans are singing and dancing in the streets right now.

[Oldgoldwulf]

Langdale -

There is a difference between booing a guy off the park and expressing dismay on a fans forum for a perceived $$$$ signing.

I hope that you understand what I mean...

I'm not gonna boo the guy when he runs onto the Molineux pitch but forgive me if I cannot for the life of me understand this decision...

He has never looked anything other than mediocre to me and i've seen him play against us a few times plus Sunderland on TV when they got promoted...

I think he is very poor and it looks like a really bad signing - especially if it means one of our other strikers is gonna be pushed out!

[Pig]

I would say that's Bothroyd and Eastwood finished. Kyle and Blake with Keogh/Elliot covering for Kightly. Mind you, after listening to McCarthy after the Watford game, Kightly has a big job to dislodge 'Sleeves' from the side now :rolleyes:

[Langdale Wolf]

The Coventry fans are singing and dancing in the streets right now.

Wolv3nsam - I totally agree with your above post when you said we need a LB and a CB more. You're spot on.

But how do we know MM hasn't been busting a gut to recruit those positions? And what's that got to do with Kyle? We should give him a chance at least. For the record, I don't think he'll do that much for us, but I'm prepared to give the guy a go as I am with any player.

[Brizzlewolf]

Clutching at straws...have the club actually confirmed this yet?

[Oldgoldwulf]

Sorry all I can hear is...

Clap clap clap... super super Mick... clap clap clap...

[Langdale Wolf]

Sorry all I can hear is...

Clap clap clap... super super Mick... clap clap clap...

So you can't read then?


:D

[Essex Wolf]

Bloke may turn out to be a good signing for all any of us know but his track record would indicate otherwise and who is he going to replace?

What I can't understand is the need for yet another striker anyway. The team have now scored 8 goals in 3 games and still have Kightly and Olifinjana to return to the squad.

[Pig]

Olifinjana to return to the squad.

Oh please no.

[Langdale Wolf]

Bloke may turn out to be a good signing for all any of us know but his track record would indicate otherwise and who is he going to replace?

What I can't understand is the need for yet another striker anyway. The team have now scored 8 goals in 3 games and still have Kightly and Olifinjana to return to the squad.

Thank you Essex - a decent reply!!

Totally agree.

[ProudWolf]

Why does everyone think he's going to start?

[wolverine mick]

Clutching at straws...have the club actually confirmed this yet?


No official club text yet, if I turn my mobile off does that mean it won't happen :D

[ProudWolf]

Mick said last night that Bothroyd and a few others would be going nowhere.
Imv, the only one who might go out on loan is Freddy.

[Pig]

Why does everyone think he's going to start?

Are you saying McCarthy has signed someone that isn't an improvement on what we have already?

[Brizzlewolf]

No official club text yet, if I turn my mobile off does that mean it won't happen :D

Yeah...currently got my fingers in my ears and I'm humming loudly...

[wolverine mick]

Thank you Essex - a decent reply!!

Totally agree.


I think most people with a football brain would agree, but some signings seem to be better received than others

[ProudWolf]

Are you saying McCarthy has signed someone that isn't an improvement on what we have already?

He will offer something different, i.e. height and aerial ability.
You think Keogh or SEB will make way for a loan signing? He'll be used from the bench if we're being forced to go more direct.

[jbarnettuk1984]

i have just got into work late and this is the first i have seen of this - what the $$$$ing hell do we need another striker for? especially kyle...

[Pig]

He will offer something different, i.e. height and aerial ability.
You think Keogh or SEB will make way for a loan signing? He'll be used from the bench if we're being forced to go more direct.


Sorry, I was trying to be sarcastic. We were hitting it long to someone 5'7" after they equalised last night so it will be nothing new.

[jabbawolf]

I live in Coventry - the unanimous view of fans and media alike are that Kyle is a useless lump and also on a ridiculous amount of money - I don't get this at all - I understand the idea of getting in someone who offers a different option if we need it, but at least get someone who is good at it.

The only saving grace is that we can send him back when he shows his true worth.

[Essex Wolf]

Why does everyone think he's going to start?


Good question PW but with already having so many strikers why would any manager sign yet another then not bother to use them?

If the bloke is going to make the bench at best it will be a totally pointless signing.

[Waggy's Boots]

I guess if he comes off the bench and gets a few winners for us towards the end of the season we'll take him to our hearts - perhaps its as cover in case of injuries later on......

[ProudWolf]

http://www.expressandstar.com/2008/01/30/wolves-sign-striker/

[ProudWolf]

Good question PW but with already having so many strikers why would any manager sign yet another then not bother to use them?

If the bloke is going to make the bench at best it will be a totally pointless signing.

He might not be pointless if he comes on and changes/wins a few games for us! I'm not saying he will but thats the idea behind this signing i think.

[Essex Wolf]

He might not be pointless if he comes on and changes/wins a few games for us! I'm not saying he will but thats the idea behind this signing i think.

So in other words before slating the bloke, not saying you are, the fans should give him a chance.

[Oldgoldwulf]

I live in Coventry - the unanimous view of fans and media alike are that Kyle is a useless lump and also on a ridiculous amount of money - I don't get this at all - I understand the idea of getting in someone who offers a different option if we need it, but at least get someone who is good at it.

My feelings exactly.

I've calmed down a little now (thanks Langdale ;))... but i'm still a tad annoyed.

I'm not optimistic that he'll turn into a good player as soon as he pulls on the Old Gold n black but i'll applaud him if he does his best.

I won't be holding my breath though.

[Essex Wolf]

Is Kyle available for the Cup game?

[Munich_Wolf]

At least it's only a loan signing I suppose, hopefully he'll be his usual donkey self and fail to impress.

He scored 11 in 91 for Sunderland under McCarthy. I think he failed to impress enough then. He is dire, and if any of our other stikers including Elliot leave at his expense, I'll be firmly in the MM OUT camp. FFS if we need someone good in the air for the final few minutes of a game put Neil Collins up there and save the cash we're paying this donkey.

Christ on a bike, I feel sick

[Bugsy911]

I have no problem with the signing of Kyle , give the guy a chance he might come good if not what have we lost ?

What I do have a problem is with the lack of cover at left back and on either wing - where as up front we now have a choice of 7 strikers...an in balance for a promotion chasing team of the highest order.

[ProudWolf]

I think you should always give new signings a chance. You might not be keen on someone, in this instance for example, but better to support the lad when he comes on and hope he can provide something new to the team.

[Still Proud]

When I heard MM on WM last night hinting that there maybe some ns and outs I thought of the defence - this is completly out of left field - remainds me a bit of Blobby Taylor - money spent (loan fee and wages) on someone who won't contribute too much when other areas need it more.

[jabbawolf]

I think you should always give new signings a chance. You might not be keen on someone, in this instance for example, but better to support the lad when he comes on and hope he can provide something new to the team.

Hope 1 Experience 0

[JR's Boots]

I have no problem with the signing of Kyle , give the guy a chance he might come good if not what have we lost ?

What I do have a problem is with the lack of cover at left back and on either wing - where as up front we now have a choice of 7 strikers...an in balance for a promotion chasing team of the highest order.

Bugsy, you haven't seen the guy play. I have for Cov a couple of times this season and he is one of the worst players I have seen at this level. He makes Steven Ward look skillful.

If MM does sign him, even on loan I will think long and hard about renewing my season ticket. I do not want my easy earnt money spent on this wasters wages and nor do I want to spend my time watching him chug around Molineux.

Dear me, talk about feeling deflated. I was in a good mood this morning but not now.

[Bend It Like Dennison]

Just when things were starting to look up. :rolleyes::mad:

What an embarrassment of a signing. Abysmal bit of business.

A centre half, a left back, either of the wings, all positions we could do with extra cover. The absolute last dept we needed to strengthen in was the striker dept. Yet another McCarthy blunder.

The crazy thing is, when he thinks outside the Sunderland box, his signings have been decent.

His worst signings have been his old pals from Sunderland.

Personally, I wouldnt really be that bothered if Eastwood was shipped out. He is now & rightfully so, the 4th choice striker. Thing is though he is a terrace favourite & the most likely of all the strikers to leave, so if McCarthy is to ship him out, he better hope & pray this winning streak continues because if you thought the clamour for Craddocks return was mad, it would be nothing compared to this if this move backfired.

[Oldgoldwulf]

A centre half, a left back, either of the wings, all positions we could do with extra cover. The absolute last dept we needed to strengthen in was the striker dept. Yet another McCarthy blunder.

The crazy thing is, when he thinks outside the Sunderland box, his signings have been decent.

His worst signings have been his old pals from Sunderland.


A very fair assessment - unfortunately once you've been labelled a 'doom-monger' or branded 'anti Merlin' no one looks past this...

If people will take the time to read your post i'm sure that they would struggle to argue with any of the opinins you've given.

[jbarnettuk1984]

again, i live in leamington spa and i have to work with a bunch of coventry season ticket holders.
they have all said he seems to be unfairly treated by the coventry 'faithful'. he scored on his debut for them but then got frozen out and cos he has a bad attitude he hasn't helped himself in getting back in the team, nor with the fans.
a few seem to think with the right man looking after him and a fresh start he could do a good job in this league - but going on past experiences with Mick (Freddy Eastwood and Jay Boothroyd jump to mind) i wouldn't say he is the right man for the job.

[Langdale Wolf]

A very fair assessment - unfortunately once you've been labelled a 'doom-monger' or branded 'anti Merlin' no one looks past this...

If people will take the time to read your post i'm sure that they would struggle to argue with any of the opinins you've given.

That's not quite true - Essex is one of the most depressingly predictable 'doom mongerers' out there (no offence, Essex!!) but he managed to put his point across quite well on this topic I thought.

Believe it or not, there are one or 2 of my posts which are actually not pro-Mick. I don't agree on everything he says and does, but tend to a ) give credit when it's due and b ) at least give a guy a chance.

I would HOPE (and like everyone else on this board I have no proof of this or even to the contrary) that he has been working as hard as he can to try and bring in a new LB, CB (and possibly left winger as well) during the transfer window.

Due to Jez's transfer policies, we only get confirmation of the ones which are confirmed.

[fielden05]

Confirmed On Text!!

[manc_wolf]

just been confimed on official text

:confused:

[jlovatt]

oh dear. taxi for mccarthy!

[Tuco]

At least it is only a loan signing, but going off his sub appearance at the Molineux earlier in the season, he was overweight and the game passed him by. Don't know how many games he has played for them, but seems to have a discipline problem 2 red cards this season.

[Waggy's Boots]

At 6'3 maybe he will be an emergency centre half...

[Rocky_Balllboa]

McCarthy you just lost the respect of all sane fans, you plonker

[Carlos#5]

Not pleased at all with this news. Despite generally siding on the pro-McCarthy camp, or at least, stick with him til the end of the season, it has been a long running joke that if MM signs KK or Jonathon Stead, I'll post my ST back to MM direct!

A baffling decision, but I am prepared to give him a chance I guess, he won't start and if he does at any stage then hopefully he will deserve it and therefore that will be a good thing. I am not prepared to let this signing taint my new found optimism over recent form.

It was touted after Scunthorpe that one swallow does not make a summer. Well, we now have 3 swallows, I look outside and the sun is shining. We are moving forward again, and despite this signing, I am still smiling.

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Just when things were starting to look up. :rolleyes::mad:

What an embarrassment of a signing. Abysmal bit of business.

A centre half, a left back, either of the wings, all positions we could do with extra cover. The absolute last dept we needed to strengthen in was the striker dept. Yet another McCarthy blunder.

The crazy thing is, when he thinks outside the Sunderland box, his signings have been decent.

His worst signings have been his old pals from Sunderland.

Personally, I wouldnt really be that bothered if Eastwood was shipped out. He is now & rightfully so, the 4th choice striker. Thing is though he is a terrace favourite & the most likely of all the strikers to leave, so if McCarthy is to ship him out, he better hope & pray this winning streak continues because if you thought the clamour for Craddocks return was mad, it would be nothing compared to this if this move backfired.

Agree with all of that spot on.

I just hope beyond hope that this is another occassion where the Express and Star are way off the mark!

[Waggy's Boots]

Joking and bias aside, MM must see something in him that he could find useful for the rest of the season ....I guess we have to trust his judgement..impact sub seems to be the consensus

[Elephant Pyjamas]

No sooner had i wrote that i got the text.

I'm p1ssed off with this, and i'm a MM fan.

This signing could really disrupt the feel good factor of the squad, what will this do to the confidence of Bothroyd, Stephen Ward and Eastwood? I can't imagine it will make them more determined!?

It seems we are going down the Warnock, Sheffield Utd route of signing as many strikers as possible.

[Carlos#5]

This signing could really disrupt the feel good factor of the squad, what will this do to the confidence of Bothroyd, Stephen Ward and Eastwood? I can't imagine it will make them more determined!?




If it does not make JB SW and FE more determined, then they can go, simple.

[jbarnettuk1984]

Jesus.

[dr cool]

its a baffler................

[Chiswick_Wolf]

Not pleased at all with this news. Despite generally siding on the pro-McCarthy camp, or at least, stick with him til the end of the season, it has been a long running joke that if MM signs KK or Jonathon Stead, I'll post my ST back to MM direct!

A baffling decision, but I am prepared to give him a chance I guess, he won't start and if he does at any stage then hopefully he will deserve it and therefore that will be a good thing. I am not prepared to let this signing taint my new found optimism over recent form.

It was touted after Scunthorpe that one swallow does not make a summer. Well, we now have 3 swallows, I look outside and the sun is shining. We are moving forward again, and despite this signing, I am still smiling.

Might not be the signing we hoped for, but it hasn't cost us much and lets give the guy a chance. We all thought Eastwood would be great, he hasn't been that brilliant. What's to say that he might fit into our system better and be a good signing? With Jarvis returning to form a target man may love our style of play?

He's not a player that's going to have the side built around him, he's just another option, a different option. Does this spell the end of Eastwood though?

Also with S. Ward injured, Kightly injured and Eliott playing on the right, possible suspensions (Ebanks Blake?) coming up, it probably isn't the worst thing to have a bit of back up in that position if needed.

[Elephant Pyjamas]

If it does not make JB SW and FE more determined, then they can go, simple.


Whilst i agree, i feel sorry for Bothroyd, against Watford he scored and had a hand in all three of the other goals, he then comes off the bench last night, gets an assist and then this morning we sign Kyle, who will probably take his place on the bench, that must be pretty demorilising?!

[Big Mack]

It's on here...

http://www.eatsleepsport.com/articles/686172.html

and

http://www.clubcall.com/index.jsp?storyID=332868

[Wolv3nsam]

Taxi for Bothroyd..

[Wolv3nsam]

It's quite rich when Jez says "We've been looking for a left back for the last couple of months" and then we sign Kevin Kyle!

[dr cool]

eastwood off to qpr/ palace are the rumours ?

[goldfish]

I hope to God we're not paying his wages. He's on £11,000 at Coventry I believe.

NB: Since checking, I've realised it's only a meagre £7884 a week. See the bbc link in my post below for proof.

[Wolv3nsam]

I hope to God we're not paying his wages. He's on £11,000 at Coventry I believe.

He's not worth £11 let alone £11,000

[dr cool]

he aint cup tied !! ; )

[goldfish]

My mistake. It's only £7884 a week!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/south_of_scotland/6521983.stm

[Wolv3nsam]

£7k a week?

[Leeky]

[QUOTE=Chiswick_Wolf;524061]Might not be the signing we hoped for, but it hasn't cost us much and lets give the guy a chance. We all thought Eastwood would be great, he hasn't been that brilliant. What's to say that he might fit into our system better and be a good signing? With Jarvis returning to form a target man may love our style of play?

It is very difficult to be 'Brilliant' when you only get about 5 or 10 mins coming off the bench each game!

[Akaman]

Oh dear, not good at all. He can't come on with more than 5 minutes left, should be written into the deal. We should try to win the games with good football and if we're not winning with 5 left, then stick him on and hoof it, but please, no more than that

[Wolv3nsam]

Kyle has scored 5 goals in 2 seasons... wow.

[Elephant Pyjamas]

I hope to God we're not paying his wages. He's on £11,000 at Coventry I believe.

Well i think its safe to say we will be making some kind of contribution!

He was an un-used sub at Blackburn in the Fa Cup and wasn't in the 16 against Millwall, so its safe to say he isn't sup tied?

Just found this too, ha!

http://www.uglyfootballers.com/genpage.asp?documentid=281

[jabbawolf]

£7k a week?

At least it won't cost us much in terms of goal bonuses though.

[goldfish]

Imagine Daniele Dichio playing with muscular dystrophy.

...is how he was once described on another forum.

He also once poured boiling water over his nads whilst trying to make baby food.

Not that I'm judging him before he's kicked (headed) a ball, you understand. I'm sure I'll give him a "huge Molineux welcome" when he comes on for his debut.

[Wolv3nsam]

He scored 12 goals for Sunderland during the 2003-04 season, wasn't Mick at Sunderland then?

[dr cool]

My mistake. It's only £7884 a week!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/south_of_scotland/6521983.stm


are the 120 community hours with us ?????:eek:

dr:cool:

[Wolv3nsam]

http://www.wolves.premiumtv.co.uk/javaImages/5a/26/0,,10307%7E3548762,00.jpg

What a brilliant photo.

[long ball man]

Easy folks. Quotes like 'McCarthy has just lost the respect of all sane Wolves fans' are well over the top.

Not a signing to get the juices running I admit BUT we dont have a target man at the moment so i am perfectly happy for us to throw this guy on with 10/15 to go if the guile of Keogh/Jarvis etc isn't working in a particular game. If you are 1-0 down, especially at home with a baying crowd you are going to launch it anyway, mays well do so aiming for a bloke who might win something in the air.

The prob with the strikers is not this signing...its the balance of what we have already. Bothroyd/Eastwood both mercurial/lazy outside the box players...imo we don't need both given Keogh/Ebanks-Blake as first choice. So for me its Kyle plus one of Bothroyd/Eastwood as our striking options on the bench. I hope we don't see too much of Mr Kyle as to me it will mean we are struggling in matches but his type of player represents a valid tactic and one its good to have in our locker.

[goldfish]

Where's Kevin Kilbane at the moment?

I'm getting nervous that Mick might decide he's the answer to our left-back problems.

[Wolv3nsam]

Where's Kevin Kilbane at the moment?

I'm getting nervous that Mick might decide he's the answer to our left-back problems.

He's at Wigan.

[cooper_J]

I do not believe we have signed that shower of $$$$e.

I'm a big MM fan but I can't get my head around this one. Not a good day to be a happy clapper.

[brummywolf]

I cannot fathom this whatsoever. McCarthy has lost the $$$$ing plot. I am so angry.

Kyle is a useless waster. He's injury prone and a trouble maker. I was shcoked when Coventry signed him- even more shcoked when I found out they'd paid a fee for hom- even more shocked when that turned out to be 600k.

He's on 7k a week- I bet Coventry are delighted to get rid of him on loan. Why do we need a striker????? Even if MM thought it necessary to sign one- couldn't he have signed a young Premiership striker on loan or something to that effect?

This is the worst and most pointless signing I've seen in a long time. I've really enjoyed our recent comeback and was hoping that we've turned the corner. But this decision by MM has devastated me and I'm seriously starting to doubt his sanity.

Elliot is playing well (albeit on the wing but his confidence has risen), Bothroyd is playing superbly, SEB has 2 goals in 3, Stephen Ward will hopefully be kept away from the wing and given a chance up front and Keogh is on fire. And you can add to that Eastwood who has more talent and potential in his little finger than Kevin Kyle.

[Bevan]

Terrible, terrible signing. All my Cov work mates are laughing at me.

[Munich_Wolf]

Whilst i agree, i feel sorry for Bothroyd, against Watford he scored and had a hand in all three of the other goals, he then comes off the bench last night, gets an assist and then this morning we sign Kyle, who will probably take his place on the bench, that must be pretty demorilising?!


Who was it called Kyle an impact sub? Bothroyd is one not this frigging waster. Robert Taylor MKII and as for the other stikers can leave if the don't like it? Muppet

[Gold Umbro]

Whilst it would seem a strange signing, let's just chill out a little.

1. It's only a loan (who knows how much of his wage we are paying?).
2. He won't start (lord don't prove me wrong).
3. If he comes on for the last 10 minutes in a couple of games and scores one off his head/knee/$$$$ then you never know it might just be worth it.
4. Besides all that we are looking a bit tasty at the moment.

[Wolv3nsam]

At least we'll be able to combat Stoke's hoof ball now.

The FA should implement American football-type rules into the English game. That way we can bring Kyle and Collins on for corners and then take them off afterwards :D

[goldfish]

Maybe McCarthy saw the heroic status given to Mike Ashley and decided that signign someone with the initials KK was a fast-track to being a hero. Though I think I'd actually have preferred Kevin Kilbane to Kyle.

[Wolv3nsam]

Stephen Ward is good aerially and has far more talent and potential than this guy. It really does make you wonder.

[Nashie]

It really is worrying now that so much of this side is based on the Sunderland team that finished with a record low premiership points tally.

[Ches]

Oh FFS! What on earths going on! We've been playing carp for ages, we turn it around and our strikers start scoring (keogh, SEB, Bothroyd and Elliot anyway) and we go and get this sack of plop in on loan! Utter madness. Just when i was starting to think "hey wait on perhaps MM isnt so bad afterall" he goes and pulls this out of his bum! And if Eastwood goes too, well, words fail me...

I've got a mate whos a Cov fan, luckily hes away from the office otherwise i'd be getting some right stick.

Save me Jebus!!!

[yatess]

ANOTHER striker?!?!?! I just hope & pray we sign the 3 defenders we need before today's out, never mind striker #7.....
CH to avoid having to play that liability Ward D
LB " " " " " " " (defensively) Gray, and preferrably
CH 2 " " " " " " " Collins

OMG

[jlovatt]

well now we have a target man maybe a defender or two wouldnt go a miss

[Muscat]

Looks a strange and bad signing to be honest, but I suppose we just have to trust Mick. Certainly reactions like brummywolf's are OTT IMO.

Trying to stick to the positives, it's only a loan and we can terminate it, presumably, at any time. He gives us something different to what we have at the moment and could be useful in the latter stages of a game. Certainly he should be able to work well with a striker of Ebanks-Blake's type. Plus, when Kightly is back, we will be getting a load of crosses in and eventually a few must land on his head, right? :(

[Elephant Pyjamas]

ANOTHER striker?!?!?! I just hope & pray we sign the 3 defenders we need before today's out, never mind striker #7.....
CH to avoid having to play that liability Ward D
LB " " " " " " " (defensively) Gray, and preferrably
CH 2 " " " " " " " Collins

OMG


D. Ward has been excellent other than his first 2 games.

[Still Proud]

Maybe he's going to convert him into a Centre Half

[The Bear]

The Cov STH at work calls him a 'flick-on merchant'.

I imagine he'd be useful to throw on if we are chasing a game against big strong CB's (like Stoke) but that's it!

[Muscat]

Plus those desperate for more defenders should remember we have the best defence in the league and have had for almost the entire season.

[Wolv3nsam]

Plus he did score 18 in a season when Mick was his manager but sustained a serious injury that's knocked him about since.. maybe he will revitalise himself here and we can all jeer at the Coventry fans when he puts one past them at the Ricoh. I can live in hope anyway ;)

[jabbawolf]

I'm gutted - I'm 6foot5, turn like the Titanic, and have missed a few games with a bunion - why not me Mick? I've got everything he has.

[Gold Umbro]

It really is worrying now that so much of this side is based on the Sunderland team that finished with a record low premiership points tally.

I consider at present our side to be based around the following players:

Hennessey/Murray
Foley
Jarvis
Kightly
Edwards,D
Keogh
Ebanks Blake

Maybe need a couple of defenders come to think about it.....

[Bevan]

I would only be happy (in the loosest sense) with this signing if he's only ever a sub and only ever used for a maximum of 15 mins per game if we need to either (a) get back into a game quickly, or (b) shut up shop. Under no circumstances should this loan ever, repeat EVER, turn into a permanent move.

Furthermore, if Freddy goes as a result of this it would represent one of the worst trade offs in the history of football.

Sadly, I think this is the last of our transfer business this January despite the fact we still only have 1 left back and 1 winger available.

[Mutchy]

http://www.samaritans.org/

[cooper_J]

Spot on Bevan.

We really, really need a left back, especially as MM sees Jones as a winger.

[UEAwolf]

I can see the idiot selling Bothroyd and Eastwood either now or in the summer.

next season when we are still in this division our lethal strike partnership of Elliott and Kyle will fire us to promotion with Ward running down the left wing.

Yeah right...


Seriously, this obsession with signing crap ex Sunderland players is unbelievable.

[Wolv3nsam]

I can see the idiot selling Bothroyd and Eastwood either now or in the summer.

Yet Eastwood has been assured of his future and Mick was full of praise for Bothroyd last night?

[UEAwolf]

We'll wait and see.

Do you really believe we will keep 7 strikers on our books?

[Wolv3nsam]

:D Express & Star poll:

Wolves signing Kevin Kyle is?

A baffling addition (82%)
A useful alternative (14%)
Just what we need (2%)

What's betting the 2% are Baggies fans?

[5150]

Thinking about this I can kind of see reason behind another striker being signed (all be it of questionable ability).

Freddy on the side lines , Ward on the side lines and Elliot now as wide player in the absence of Kites.
Leaving SEB,Jay and Keogh.

We do not have a problem creating chances now that MM has seen the light.One injury to another fit striker leaves MM very short on options.

Those still crying for a CH...it aint gonna happen....Ward,Collins,Jody,Breen and Edwards.Also at LB....Gray,Jones and Collins.RB with Foley or Henry.

As far as I can see cover for Edwards is an issue....unless of course the "great one" is in line for a start !

[Ches]

Oh no, i hope it doesnt come to this: (taken from CC discussion thread)

"It's not all his fault. When the rest of the team see Kyle up front they tend to hoof it to him and we lose possesion. We had a very fast attack saturday, Gray and Tabb on the wings, Misfud up front. Why we should try route 1 football is laughable. It hasn't worked for Coventry since Dublin and Huckerby partnership yet we always seem to try it."

Please Mick, if it aint broke dont try to fix it! :(

[EasternWolf]

I am totally amazed.

I said last week that perhaps to get a slightly more pacey centre half we could try to convert a centre forward (like Dion Dublin has done), but i cant imagine this will happen here.

No objection to him signing but not at the expense of anyone, especially Eastwood, who has the talent to come good.

Looking for justification ... we seem to play three wingers and three strikers in most games and, given that we may not have Kightly for a while, Elliot will be one of the wingers, so three strikers from SEB, Keogh, Bothroyd, Eastwood and Kyle for each game - with Ward as another potential winger. Grasping at straws here to understand.

[Wolv3nsam]

Kyle would only be a good alternative if we're playing a physical team like (as someone mentioned on here) Stoke City who cut out our 'ball to feet' play.

Mick wouldn't resort to just the hoof (unless forced) after how well we've done in the last three games with fast, attacking play.

[scottishwolf II]

Thinking about this I can kind of see reason behind another striker being signed (all be it of questionable ability).

Freddy on the side lines , Ward on the side lines and Elliot now as wide player in the absence of Kites.
Leaving SEB,Jay and Keogh.

We do not have a problem creating chances now that MM has seen the light.One injury to another fit striker leaves MM very short on options.

Those still crying for a CH...it aint gonna happen....Ward,Collins,Jody,Breen and Edwards.Also at LB....Gray,Jones and Collins.RB with Foley or Henry.

As far as I can see cover for Edwards is an issue....unless of course the "great one" is in line for a start !

I can see your reasoning - but the logic is flawed isn't it? Basically buy some cover for the wings so you can get Elliot as cover up front. That way you have solved your original problem. Getting a striker so Elliot can stay as cover on the right wing (I know he has done ok there) is er a bit odd

[5150]

I can see your reasoning - but the logic is flawed isn't it? Basically buy some cover for the wings so you can get Elliot as cover up front. That way you have solved your original problem. Getting a striker so Elliot can stay as cover on the right wing (I know he has done ok there) is er a bit odd

True...I can only assume that a loan deal for a striker is a better bet ,cost wise, than signing another winger.

[Wolv3nsam]

We were reportedly in for Commons and Forest knocked us back due to him being an important part of their promotion push, perhaps Kyle is an alternative.. we can't sign another winger, so instead we'll sign a striker so Elliot can persist at right wing?

It's obviously only a temporary signing anyway, if this is made permanent I will be very very surprised. Perhaps once Eastwood and Ward are fully fit he'll be sent back.

[Big Saft Kid]

The most damning thing for me is that he's yet another Sunderland reject. This speaks volumes about Mick and his old-pals act mentality and possibly about the short comings of our scouting system. Our maybe we've got a great scouting system and MM just ignores it?

[Paul76]

I'm not going to write the man off. I trust MM judgment %100. We needed a aerial threat now we've got it. This fellow will be perfect for bringing on in the last 15 minutes. If we're struggling to break down a ugly team he might be able to make something of our hoofs.

[5150]

We were reportedly in for Commons and Forest knocked us back due to him being an important part of their promotion push, perhaps Kyle is an alternative.. we can't sign another winger, so instead we'll sign a striker so Elliot can persist at right wing?

It's obviously only a temporary signing anyway, if this is made permanent I will be very very surprised. Perhaps once Eastwood and Ward are fully fit he'll be sent back.

Exactly....if it was a perm' deal I would be amazed as others, but as short term cover, it makes sense.

As I said, I can only assume it is cheaper to get a striker in on loan then by Commons et all.

[EasternWolf]

I am also worried because Mick said something like: "aye t'windows open and someone might fly in and someone might fly out" ... give me that link again Mutchy please

[Wolv3nsam]

I was a bit baffled and obviously annoyed, but when you think about it it does make sense slightly. It's only for cover purposes I'm sure, and yet some are thinking he's an alternative to Eastwood!

[5150]

The most damning thing for me is that he's yet another Sunderland reject. This speaks volumes about Mick and his old-pals act mentality and possibly about the short comings of our scouting system. Our maybe we've got a great scouting system and MM just ignores it?

It has not done bad with the likes of Kightly,Keogh,Edwards and SEB.

So the fact that every other person says he is a **** player,the most damning thing for you is the fact he played for Sunderland ? :confused:

[5150]

I was a bit baffled and obviously annoyed, but when you think about it it does make sense slightly. It's only for cover purposes I'm sure, and yet some are thinking he's an alternative to Eastwood!

It does,in a weird kind of "could you not have got someone a little better" kind of way.

People seem to forget that when Brum were promoted , they had 6 "first team" strikers !

[BlahBlah]

He's a target man...we havent got a target man and might need one.
Some games always end up in hoofball....just a fact of life in this league.

More importantly...he turned up to Molineux wearing his pajamas.

[Paul76]

I was a bit baffled and obviously annoyed, but when you think about it it does make sense slightly. It's only for cover purposes I'm sure, and yet some are thinking he's an alternative to Eastwood!

Anything is better than an alternative to Eastwood. I'm willing to bet Kyle is a better player than Eastwood.

[N. Herts Wolf]

I am also worried because Mick said something like: "aye t'windows open and someone might fly in and someone might fly out" ... give me that link again Mutchy please

I think this was it:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defenestration

[Muscat]

Mick wouldn't resort to just the hoof (unless forced) after how well we've done in the last three games with fast, attacking play.

Well I think we all agree Mick doesn't want to play hoofball. Ever since he's come here he's been about getting it down, playing it and attacking with pace and skill. I can't imagine the loan signing of a big man means we're going to abandon all that and just start lumping it. We do lack an aerial presence in the box from wide positions and maybe Kyle can help with that.

[5150]

He's a target man...we havent got a target man and might need one.
Some games always end up in hoofball....just a fact of life in this league.

More importantly...he turned up to Molineux wearing his pajamas.

Took the "sleeping giant" thing a tad too far then !! :o...sorry

[JR's Boots]

Absurd signing. Coventry can't believe their luck. Maybe McCarthy will play him as a left back.

Seven strickers and meanwhile we have an erratic 33 year old or an untalented right footed centre half at LB.

What a joke.

[Mutchy]

I am also worried because Mick said something like: "aye t'windows open and someone might fly in and someone might fly out" ... give me that link again Mutchy please

Football supporter rang the Samaritans....
Hello? Is that the Samaritans? I'm a Wolves fan.
Samaritan worker shot himself....

[Chiswick_Wolf]

So what if he's played for Sunderland. If you're a manager would you rather work with unknown quantities or players that you already know inside out? The Sunderland players that we have in the side, whilst not perhaps "fans favourites" do actually do a pretty good job for us, not outstanding but good.

[PabloWolfo]

Can't be arsed to read the rest of this thread to find out if this has been posted already, but it seems the Cov fans on Rivals are absolutely gutted that he's left....or not

http://coventrycity.rivals.net/Forum/pgePosts.aspx?threadId=24772&boardId=104&clubId=27

[5150]

Absurd signing. Coventry can't believe their luck. Maybe McCarthy will play him as a left back.

Seven strickers and meanwhile we have an erratic 33 year old or an untalented right footed centre half at LB.

What a joke.

You forgot the word "loan"

[5150]

Can't be arsed to read the rest of this thread to find out if this has been posted already, but it seems the Cov fans on Rivals are absolutely gutted that he's left....or not

http://coventrycity.rivals.net/Forum/pgePosts.aspx?threadId=24772&boardId=104&clubId=27


You should .....deal kind of makes sense to a few of us.

[Super Hans]

This signing is absolute madness. But, good luck to him, I feel he is going to need it playing in front of the South Bank if Freddy is sold!

[JR's Boots]

You forgot the word "loan"

So what? His wages could have still gone a far better footballer, playing in a position thjat we do need to improve.

[Muscat]

Seven strickers and meanwhile we have an erratic 33 year old or an untalented right footed centre half at LB.

Who both play in a defence that has conceded less than a goal a game this season...

[sjonnie]

Who both play in a defence that has conceded less than a goal a game this season...

Yes a defence that has to be shored up by the entire midfield - resulting in a goal difference of just plus one. Fact facts the defence can't cut it and we continue to concede unnecessary goals.

Anyone who had doubts about McCarthy's ability must surely be convinced now - he is clueless and this signing underlines that. A totally irresponsible signing that could (and IMHO most definitely should) cost him the sack.

[Welsh Y'am Y'am]

Some gems from that cov site:

"can we have a clause that he must play against us"

"Almost any striker we sign will score more than Kyle, and see less red cards."

"Makes you wonder what football managers see in him? Does he make a superb cup of tea? Or maybe he bakes nice cakes?"

and finally,

"Thank $$$$ the idiot has gone and lets just hope its for good!"

[Muscat]

The last three games haven't involved the midfield protecting the defence and we've conceded 2 and scored 8. Less than 1 a game conceded and a goal difference of +6 - I don't see the problem.

[Big Saft Kid]

It has not done bad with the likes of Kightly,Keogh,Edwards and SEB.

So the fact that every other person says he is a **** player,the most damning thing for you is the fact he played for Sunderland ? :confused:

The point is, there are 92 teams in the league, yet Mick seems to have a fatal attraction for players who once played for one of them with him as its manager. I just don't believe that Sunderland can be such a unique source of talent to justify this bias. It's a lazy solution to what increasingly looks like (in the strike department) a non-extistent problem.

[Muscat]

Off those 92 managers, I'll bet a lot of them have gone back to their previous clubs for players. Roy Keane has done it quite a few times.

[sjonnie]

The last three games haven't involved the midfield protecting the defence and we've conceded 2 and scored 8. Less than 1 a game conceded and a goal difference of +6 - I don't see the problem.

Maybe not, but the other 26 games? ...

Last 3 = Scunthorpe (who were bottom), Watford reserves and Sheff W (4th bottom). Let's talk again on Monday.

[jabbawolf]

Off those 92 managers, I'll bet a lot of them have gone back to their previous clubs for players. Roy Keane has done it quite a few times.

If we could all shop at ManU we probably would, but Sunderland?????

[Muscat]

Well fair point but I don't think it's just something that Mick is doing. Don't think we'd moan if he went and got Murphy and Nosworthy, it's not about it being Sunderland it's the quality of the players, surely? Collins and Elliott are perfectly capable at this level IMO; Kyle maybe not, but we shall see.

[JR's Boots]

Some gems from that cov site:

"can we have a clause that he must play against us"

"Almost any striker we sign will score more than Kyle, and see less red cards."

"Makes you wonder what football managers see in him? Does he make a superb cup of tea? Or maybe he bakes nice cakes?"

and finally,

"Thank $$$$ the idiot has gone and lets just hope its for good!"

I think here the opinions of those who have had to watch the hopeless lump play matters more than the McCarthy apologists who are trying to defend this lousy loan signing.

[Big Saft Kid]

Well fair point but I don't think it's just something that Mick is doing. Don't think we'd moan if he went and got Murphy and Nosworthy, it's not about it being Sunderland it's the quality of the players, surely? Collins and Elliott are perfectly capable at this level IMO; Kyle maybe not, but we shall see.

Just shows that there's alot of other lazy managers then. Collins 'perfectly capable'?! Perhaps on a Sunday morning for the Dog and Duck. Elliott overall very average. Breen ditto. What they all have in common is not an abundance of talent, but the fact that they are ex-Sunderland players who played under McCarthy. By all accounts, Kyle is just the latest in the same mould.

[saturday boy]

A signing of this ilk has been on the cards since the summer when a bid for Lafferty was rejected. Last night Sheffield Wednesday did a number on us second half by dropping their midfield back 10 yards and playing 8 men behind the ball cutting out the space for Jarvis and Edwards to exploit. SEB also found himself crowded out. We didn't have anyone on the bench who we could use to counter this tactic effectively but a big lump of a target man would have enable a more direct approach both down the middle and from deeper on the flanks. As we had no-one who was going to compete in the air this tactic ends up with the centre halves clearing the ball away with relative ease.

Given that Keogh is getting back into some kind of form and SEB is scoring it seems fairly obvious that Kyle is not being brought in as a first choice but there may definitely be games where his particular skills are more effective that SEB, as someone else mentioned - the likes of Stoke.

Can't say I'm drooling at this particular signing but it is a case of let's wait and see rather than damning the manager before the player has even kicked a ball. This is a horses for courses signing and it's only on loan.

[Muscat]

I think here the opinions of those who have had to watch the hopeless lump play matters more than the McCarthy apologists who are trying to defend this lousy loan signing.

Because football fans are notoriously good judges of ability. Sheesh.

[No. 7 George Bowen]

Might not be the signing we hoped for, but it hasn't cost us much and lets give the guy a chance. We all thought Eastwood would be great, he hasn't been that brilliant. What's to say that he might fit into our system better and be a good signing? With Jarvis returning to form a target man may love our style of play?

He's not a player that's going to have the side built around him, he's just another option, a different option. Does this spell the end of Eastwood though?

Also with S. Ward injured, Kightly injured and Eliott playing on the right, possible suspensions (Ebanks Blake?) coming up, it probably isn't the worst thing to have a bit of back up in that position if needed.

This comment needs repeating. Makes me wonder about Ward and Kightly's injuries.

If Bothroyd gets injured we would need someone to hoof the ball to in the last 10 mins. Micks comments insinuates his thinking and I can't criticise it, he knows Kyle better than anyone. Good loan signing.

[sjonnie]

This comment needs repeating. Makes me wonder about Ward and Kightly's injuries.

If Bothroyd gets injured we would need someone to hoof the ball to in the last 10 mins. Micks comments insinuates his thinking and I can't criticise it, he knows Kyle better than anyone. Good loan signing.


I'd be terrified to discover what you would consider a bad loan signing then.

[Waggy's Boots]

Maybe we should all calm down and give the bloke a chance?????

[wolverine mick]

didn't want to see him signed, but now he is I will hope that he proves a lot of us wrong and it turns out to be a good bit of business. As others have said, he could provide a different route for getting the ball forward when needed

[Langdale Wolf]

Maybe we should all calm down and give the bloke a chance?????

Don't be daft.

Booooooooooooo McCarthy out!

Why isn't he scouting Barcelona? Messi and Puyol would sort out our problems.

[Viva Villazan]

This is the Neil Warnock strategy for escaping the chamionship .... buy all the strikers in the division.

[Elephant Pyjamas]

A signing of this ilk has been on the cards since the summer when a bid for Lafferty was rejected. Last night Sheffield Wednesday did a number on us second half by dropping their midfield back 10 yards and playing 8 men behind the ball cutting out the space for Jarvis and Edwards to exploit. SEB also found himself crowded out. We didn't have anyone on the bench who we could use to counter this tactic effectively but a big lump of a target man would have enable a more direct approach both down the middle and from deeper on the flanks. As we had no-one who was going to compete in the air this tactic ends up with the centre halves clearing the ball away with relative ease.

Given that Keogh is getting back into some kind of form and SEB is scoring it seems fairly obvious that Kyle is not being brought in as a first choice but there may definitely be games where his particular skills are more effective that SEB, as someone else mentioned - the likes of Stoke.

Can't say I'm drooling at this particular signing but it is a case of let's wait and see rather than damning the manager before the player has even kicked a ball. This is a horses for courses signing and it's only on loan.

Excellent post, like you i'm not in the slightest bit happy or excited about this signing, but you're right, its another string to our attacking bow, at a low cost.

[bod101]

thing is I believe we are likely to lose bothroyd soon, last night as said sheff w changed their tactics, when bothroyd came on his extra touch of class was the difference not the fact he was a tall lump to aim long balls at. he exploited space at the far post and put the ball back in for SEB. is kyle aware enough to do this or just a big lump?

[Woburn Wolf]

Like just about everyone else, I think this is an awful signing. Further confirmation that McCarthy just does not know what he is doing. One reason we have won the last three games was Ward getting injured and McCarthy being forced to play Jarvis - not great team selection or tactical acumen on McCarthy's part simply luck. How much longer can Morgan put up with this.

[Muscat]

How much longer can Morgan put up with wins and plenty of goals? Indefinitely, I suspect.

thing is I believe we are likely to lose bothroyd soon,

Mick said last night:

"The reaction of the lads that were dropped to the bench tonight - Rob Edwards, Darren Potter and Jay Bothroyd - really contributed to the performance and team spirit in the dressing room.

"They were all ready to play and what a contribution from Jay to set up the winner.

"Two or three games ago he was being booed.

"The window will close on Thursday and all those players will still be here. And I need all of them."

Which suggests Bothroyd is going nowhere for the time being.

[Kenny-11]

suggests Bothroyd is going nowhere for the time being.

Unless Jay asks to go of course

[bod101]

they were trying to get rid of jay in the last transfer window too.

[brummywolf]

Losing Bothroyd would be a disaster- one of the most integral players in the team IMO.

[JR's Boots]

To lose a talented player like Bothroyd for a mule like Kyle would be folly.

It further cements my opinion that I wouldn't want McCarthy managing Wolves if we did get promotion.

[Kenny-11]

they were trying to get rid of jay in the last transfer window too.

well we gave him permission to talk to Hull but he didn't want to. That was it, at that point his relationship with MM was at its lowest. Since then MM has praised Jay and then gave him a long run in the first team

[yatess]

D. Ward has been excellent other than his first 2 games.
:confused::eek: So, I haven't seen any hare-brained rushes of blood to the head, blind panic hoiks or gifts to opposing forwards of late then. My mistake.:rolleyes:

[QB Wolf]

Is this the same Bothroyd that has scored 1 and set up 3 in the last 2 games.

My biggest concern that this signing has ruined my new nickname for Eastwood, Sixth Choice Freddy hasn't got the same ring to it!!!

[IrchyWolf]

Well fair point but I don't think it's just something that Mick is doing. Don't think we'd moan if he went and got Murphy and Nosworthy, it's not about it being Sunderland it's the quality of the players, surely? Collins and Elliott are perfectly capable at this level IMO; Kyle maybe not, but we shall see.

But we're supposed to be building a squad that will launch us OUT of this level and hold their own on a higher plane. Where exactly does Kyle sit in this scenario?

[QB Wolf]

But we're supposed to be building a squad that will launch us OUT of this level and hold their own on a higher plane. Where exactly does Kyle sit in this scenario?

L - O - A - N

[Mutchy]

Where exactly does Kyle sit in this scenario?

At the moment, on loan. A non-permanent squad member.

[Elephant Pyjamas]

:confused::eek: So, I haven't seen any hare-brained rushes of blood to the head, blind panic hoiks or gifts to opposing forwards of late then. My mistake.:rolleyes:

He made a mistake last night yes, i haven't seen it since, not entirely sure what happened.

But did you go to Cambridge at home, Watford or Scunthorpe away? He was excellent, and other than that error last night, he played well in my view, he has been consistantly getting 7 or 8 in verdicts from posters on here and i would agree with that.

[fenella]

For me, I'd rather Wolves play a high quality passing game, similar to Arsenal), involving talented players like Keogh, Bothroyd, Jarvis and Kightly. If we're struggling in a game to break down a defence, I'd rather struggle than say "I know, lets bring on the big man and start hoofing balls towards his head".

[IrchyWolf]

L - O - A - N
LOAN D-O-N-K-E-Y for Route One HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFF

[saturday boy]

For me, I'd rather Wolves play a high quality passing game, similar to Arsenal), involving talented players like Keogh, Bothroyd, Jarvis and Kightly. If we're struggling in a game to break down a defence, I'd rather struggle than say "I know, lets bring on the big man and start hoofing balls towards his head".

I'd rather win that struggle. Each to their own I suppose.

[Muscat]

But we're supposed to be building a squad that will launch us OUT of this level and hold their own on a higher plane. Where exactly does Kyle sit in this scenario?

Every side that has ever gone up to the Premiership has had players in the squad that perform useful jobs while gaining promotion but are then surplus to requirements after promotion. We are no different.

And I'd rather win that struggle too. Just because we've signed a tall man doesn't mean we're going to start lumping it. It's far more likely we'll use him to get on the end of high crosses created by our two excellent wingers, because none of our other strikers are going to score many goals this way.

[FetishWolf]

Attention Mick, I had a beer in Sunderland a couple of years back. Can you please let me know whether I will be signed before the end of tomorrow or if your leaving it until the summer for our next Championship campaign?

[Templeton Peck]

Attention Mick, I had a beer in Sunderland a ccouple of years back. Can you please let me know whether I wiull be signed before the end of tomorrow or if your leaving it until the summer for our next Championship campaign?

Were you in the same bar as Keogh, David Edwards, Ebanks-Blake, Kightly, Potter, Foley, Jarvis, Bothroyd, Eastwood and both Wards?

[Welwyn Wolf]

I'd rather win that struggle. Each to their own I suppose.

Agreed. We do try and play a passing game most of the time, but this signing will give us another option.

They just played Kyle's goal against QPR this season. It was a powerful header after a good cross from out wide. If he can win us a couple of games this season with goals like this then he will have done his job.

It's not a signing that will get pulses racing but we do need a bit more of an ariel threat upfront sometimes.

He won't be a regular starter so I don't see the problem.

[FetishWolf]

Were you in the same bar as Keogh, David Edwards, Ebanks-Blake, Kightly, Potter, Foley, Jarvis, Bothroyd, Eastwood and both Wards?

No it was a bar for overated, overweight, inadequates. That was why I enjoyed afore mentioned beverage...

[Tarcisio Mifsud]

Perhaps MM is going to return to the very old system of 5 forwards - going with the saying that attacking is the best way of defence, that would be nice if we can start scoring say 3 or 4 goals in every game. Stan Cullis used to say it does not matter how much goals we shall have against as long as we score one more than the opponents. Who Knows??????

[Munich_Wolf]

Anything is better than an alternative to Eastwood. I'm willing to bet Kyle is a better player than Eastwood.


give it up, you sound like a clown

[The Bear]

One reason we have won the last three games was Ward getting injured and McCarthy being forced to play Jarvis - not great team selection or tactical acumen on McCarthy's part simply luck.
Are you intentially obnoxious or something?

S.Ward has had his knee injury for a while now and it's been well documented that he's been playing on with it. This was done because Jarvis wasn't quite ready to figure permanently.

The very first time this season that Jarvis came off the bench and looked a real threat was against Palace. Each other time before that he did ok, but didn't really contribute much.

He's never been out of the team since the Palace game, which was obviously a big turning point for the lad in terms of performance. Ward has since been rested to overcome his injury.

This injury to Ward is almost certainly why Jones has been bought back into the first team squad as cover for Jarvis.

It all seems fairly simple to me?? Why do you need to make such a dramatic issue about it?

[purplepault69]

[ Just because we've signed a tall man doesn't mean we're going to start lumping it. It's far more likely we'll use him to get on the end of high crosses created by our two excellent wingers, because none of our other strikers are going to score many goals this way.[/quote]

We were awarded 10 corners against Sheff Wed and at 6' 3'' KK is more likely to get up for them compared with our other "giants"---I am certain that we will not change to a hoof it team but can see KK as another alternative making it harder for the opposition to know how we are likely to play for the full 90 mins

[SaleWolf]

What an absolute idiot our manager really is.

Kevin Kyle ffs! Why on earth have we signed this bloke. why????????:eek:

Cannot understand it one bit.

Up front is the one and only place of the team we don't need to strengthen and he's stregthened there. Lunacy.

If he sends Freddie out on loan now as well, he's either gone completely mad or he is the utterly useless manager a lot of us clearly think he is.

Unbelievable.

[Nashie]

I consider at present our side to be based around the following players:

Hennessey/Murray
Foley
Jarvis
Kightly
Edwards,D
Keogh
Ebanks Blake

Maybe need a couple of defenders come to think about it.....

You see my point though, it is getting a joke now that we keep on signing mediocre ex-sunderland players.

Elliot, Collins, Gray, Kyle, Breen.

Collins is a real clogger if ever there was one.
Elliot looks pretty useless as a striker.
Gray is s-l-o-w!!!
Kyle is hardly prolific at a time when we are desperately trying to cure our mis-firing forward lineup.
Breen signed a day before McCarthy joined but I am including him as a McCarthy signing as he surely must have sanctioned it. He's slow as well.

[N. Herts Wolf]

But we're supposed to be building a squad that will launch us OUT of this level and hold their own on a higher plane. Where exactly does Kyle sit in this scenario?

The simple truth of the matter is that you cannot build a premiership-ready squad whilst playing in the Championship. This should not really be news to anyone.

[scottishwolf II]

You see my point though, it is getting a joke now that we keep on signing mediocre ex-sunderland players.

Elliot, Collins, Gray, Kyle, Breen.

Collins is a real clogger if ever there was one.
Elliot looks pretty useless as a striker.
Gray is s-l-o-w!!!
Kyle is hardly prolific at a time when we are desperately trying to cure our mis-firing forward lineup.
Breen signed a day before McCarthy joined but I am including him as a McCarthy signing as he surely must have sanctioned it. He's slow as well.

Another way of looking at it:

- Elliot: doing alright as cover on right side, ok up front and did as well as any other of the misfiring forward line when the midfield supply was poor.

- Collins: Last season he was an important part of the team when it played at its best. Has had a bad season, and McCarthy should never used him as cover for left back, as it's damaged his confidence. He is however young enough to come again

- Gray: By most accounts when fit he has done a good job down the left. Has been man of the match for quite a few people in verdict threads

- Kyle: Hasn't kicked (or more likely headed) a ball for us yet - so perhaps a tad early to call for his hanging from the stands

- Breen: Good first half of last season, dropped off second half. Played fairly well before his injury and we've been crying out for some organisation

So, not sure everyone would agree with your word one verdicts on this lot.

[Atlas 1951]

If he sends Freddie out on loan now as well, he's either gone completely mad or he is the utterly useless manager a lot of us clearly think he is.

Unbelievable.

I would like to see Eastwood go out on loan; let him get some confidence back. Also, as it appears Mick never actually saw him play before he signed him, it would give the boss a chance to see him play to his own strengths, so he can decide where he fits in.

I'd much rather that than we just let him fester in the reserves for four months and then sell at a loss. Can't see him getting any first team action this season barring injuries.

[UEAwolf]

"Thanks Kevin, you gave amateur footballers in pub sides throughtout the land hope that one day they might play at the highest level. I seriously hope he's a short term success at Wolves and that we can do a "Scowcroft" and grab a few hundred grand"


The Kevin Kyle Appreciation thread on a coventry city forum!!

[Muscat]

Scowcroft has 7 league goals this season. If Kyle can indeed "do a Scowcroft" then I will be more than happy.

[Jack Regan]

Joke of a signing in my opinion. If he picks Kyle as a starter over any of our current centre forwards, then McCarthy should be taken out and shot.

Bizzare, perplexing and downright ridiculous.

[Dr Wolfenstein]

...

He also once poured boiling water over his nads whilst trying to make baby food.



Was he wearing a kilt? He is a Scottish international.

[Pengwern]

[ Just because we've signed a tall man doesn't mean we're going to start lumping it. It's far more likely we'll use him to get on the end of high crosses created by our two excellent wingers, because none of our other strikers are going to score many goals this way.

We were awarded 10 corners against Sheff Wed and at 6' 3'' KK is more likely to get up for them compared with our other "giants"---I am certain that we will not change to a hoof it team but can see KK as another alternative making it harder for the opposition to know how we are likely to play for the full 90 mins[/QUOTE]

The most sensible post on this thread. Now we have Jones & Jarvis, our corners are likely to become dangerous to the opposition. Imagine the opposition trying to mark an aerial threat of Kyle, Collins and Craddock at set pieces?

Also, as soon as SEB was signed, what did Bully say? 'We need a big target man to go with him!'

That makes sense for me. Also, Kyle has been injured and if he is on the way back from that he could become a 16 goal striker again. There are 17 games left this League season & the ones near the end are always nervy affairs when you are in & around the play-offs or automatic places - sometimes a bit of simple hoof is inevitable for every team when the nerves get going & if I was the manager & saw our team in that state, I would call KK up from off the bench.

[Paul76]

give it up, you sound like a clown

Why when Kyle has more experience in this league. Your little fave Eastwood is a flop. The facts speak for themselves you sap.

[Dougan was king]

what a rotten signing so this manager is the man to lead us to the premiership
I dontthink so -wake up man pace and power will get us up this league not donkeys look what happens when we play 442 with 2 widemen we win games
Jesus mm this a crap decision are you trying to turn the fans against you.

[Rhoswolf]

Kevin Kyle, MM's Steve Claridge!

[wallace]

kyle=a poor mans duncan ferguson or as this already been said?

[UEAwolf]

Why when Kyle has more experience in this league. Your little fave Eastwood is a flop. The facts speak for themselves you sap.


Rubbish.

Up until a few weeks ago he was our leading goalscorer. 'Super' Mick has played him in the wrong position, dented his confidence, and picked his chums Elliott and Ward ahead of him resulting in some of the worst football played at Molineux for a long time. At the leicester game a few weeks back, probably one of the worst 1st half performances i've seen Wolves play, Eastwood, when finally brought off the bench livened the match up.

Played in his correct position, i.e. dropping off the CF, and given a decent run of matches, he would do a very good job.

In Eastwood & Bothroyd, we have two of the most talented forwards in this division, given the right man management and coaching. Add to the mix the current partnership who are doing very well at the moment-SEB and Keogh we have more than enough strength in this department. Thats not counting the two pub footballers Ward and Elliott.

[wallace]

Rubbish.

Up until a few weeks ago he was our leading goalscorer. 'Super' Mick has played him in the wrong position, dented his confidence, and picked his chums Elliott and Ward ahead of him resulting in some of the worst football played at Molineux for a long time. At the leicester game a few weeks back, probably one of the worst 1st half performances i've seen Wolves play, Eastwood, when finally brought off the bench livened the match up.

Played in his correct position, i.e. dropping off the CF, and given a decent run of matches, he would do a very good job.

In Eastwood & Bothroyd, we have two of the most talented forwards in this division, given the right man management and coaching. Add to the mix the current partnership who are doing very well at the moment-SEB and Keogh we have more than enough strength in this department. Thats not counting the two pub footballers Ward and Elliott.

that sums it up nicely, pal

[Muscat]

Freddy the fraud managing to fool MM once again.

[goldeneyed]

Anything is better than an alternative to Eastwood. I'm willing to bet Kyle is a better player than Eastwood.

Your consistently negative comments about Eastwood are getting very boring. If you think Kyle is a better striker than Eastwood then you are completely ignorant on football matters. Eastwood will come good but needs a proper run in the team at some point. Try supporting our players FFS. Idiot.