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Darko Pancev
28-01-2008, 11:05
Recurrence of ankle injury, from club text...:(

WKET
28-01-2008, 11:08
It does not say recurrence it says reaction on the text i got,would have thought that hes had another injection in order to play Tuesday and hes had a bad reaction to it.

brummywolf
28-01-2008, 11:15
I don't $$$$ing believe it...gutted.

Waggy's Boots
28-01-2008, 11:15
Felt it in training yesterday....according to the website and was limping this morning
http://www.wolves.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/0,,10307~1226488,00.html

EasternWolf
28-01-2008, 11:21
well its a good job we've got Stephen Elliot.

scottishwolf II
28-01-2008, 11:26
Not good news - fingers crossed it's not serious and just a minor reaction.

No. 7 George Bowen
28-01-2008, 11:52
Dear Michael,
Please be a little less 'optimistic' regarding your ankle. As you can see we are doing quite well at the moment and yes, thank God we do have Stephen Elliot (ignore the prior sarcastic comment). It would have been better had you rested and you could have been on the bench next weekend. Ankles always need more rest than you think and injections only provide a temporary relief with potential long term damage, take an extra week next time, I insist.
Regards,
A well wisher.

Bugsy911
28-01-2008, 12:02
This is terrrible news , the medical staff need to get this sorted out as this guy could be the difference in whether or not we scrape into the play offs !!

jbarnettuk1984
28-01-2008, 12:04
bad news and really really annoying when you think that all is needed was a bit of extra rest...

Edgmond Wolf
28-01-2008, 12:05
Gutted

jlovatt
28-01-2008, 12:07
It's dissappointing, but by no means terrible! Let's be a bit more positive!

UEAwolf
28-01-2008, 12:08
well its a good job we've got Stephen Elliot.


lol

Markwolf
28-01-2008, 12:33
Very disappointing, but Elliot has filled in ably, so lets get behind him.

welshy
28-01-2008, 12:34
Elliot is the next best replacement we have for the right wing and does it well. he just needs those p ricks to get off his back.

Bevan
28-01-2008, 12:43
Do people really think that Kightly's reoccurrence of his injury is merely due to lack of rest? He's come back twice and has since broken down again twice.

He's already had 1 scan and they're sending him for another one tomorrow. Is our medical team the most incompetent in all the football league because it's starting to seem fairly odd to say the least?

Woburn Wolf
28-01-2008, 12:49
It has been obvious for weeks that Kites ankle is not right and this latest news makes you wonder about our medical staff. I would not be surprised if he needs an op and if that is the case he could miss most if not all of this season. I hope I am wrong as we are not the same team without him.

No. 7 George Bowen
28-01-2008, 12:49
Do people really think that Kightly's reoccurrence of his injury is merely due to lack of rest? He's come back twice and has since broken down again twice.

He's already had 1 scan and they're sending him for another one tomorrow. Is our medical team the most incompetent in all the football league because it's starting to seem fairly odd to say the least?

Yes. I have had about 5 or 6 sprained/twisted ankles in the past 15 years. They are funny things and can flare up again if you put excessive strain on them when they aren't 100%. I always did hence their recurrence and my now weak right ankle.

To quite honest I would trust my guess work as much as our medical staff and their apparent guesswork.

Maybe he will be on the subs bench on Saturday and be fit for the rest of the season but next Sat away at Watford is the game that should have been targeted as the one to come back for, from the bench that is. Watford in the cup and Sheff Wed at home are neither key nor challenging games to risk him for.

goldfish
28-01-2008, 12:50
How painfully familiar.

The number of times we've rushed players back after injury only for them to repeatedly break down/never regain form.

Papper
28-01-2008, 12:51
I'm normally not the most pessimistic but i'm having horror flashbacks to Froggy's injury a few years back which needed an ankle rebuild if i remember correctly. Not good news :(

brummywolf
28-01-2008, 12:57
To be fair, he wasn't exactly risked in the Cup against Watford- he came on for a matter of seconds- don't even think he touched the ball/made any contribution. In retrospect, it was a mistake bringing him back for the Cambridge game- but at the end of the day, he scored the equaliser and set up the winner, we wouldn't be in the 5th round if it wasn't for risking him in the game.

No. 7 George Bowen
28-01-2008, 13:02
To be fair, he wasn't exactly risked in the Cup against Watford- he came on for a matter of seconds- don't even think he touched the ball/made any contribution. In retrospect, it was a mistake bringing him back for the Cambridge game- but at the end of the day, he scored the equaliser and set up the winner, we wouldn't be in the 5th round if it wasn't for risking him in the game.

True. I am coming from more the training angle as in doing any and if so what kind though, which is legitimate I feel.

Bevan
28-01-2008, 13:08
I just find it odd that he trained all week and was, to coin Mick, "terrific in training", and yet after only a few seconds in the Watford game and 15 odd minutes training yesterday he breaks down. Why? Surely the majority of "excessive force" would have been during the preceeding days?

I think Kightly originally broke down on the Monday after the Cambridge game (7th Jan) and he was back in full training 2 weeks later. By that logic he'll be out for another 2 weeks and could probably do with leaving it another week after that to avoid yet another repeat!

goldfish
28-01-2008, 13:12
Bringing him on against Cambridge probably saved McCarthy's job, actually.

I wonder at what cost.

Wardrobe_Wolf
28-01-2008, 13:15
the Wolves injury curse strikes again, ala Lescott, Murray etc. Always happens to our best players.

bod101
28-01-2008, 13:37
i know kightly is an important player however we have other players that we don't use because they are not ready to come back from injury and won't be rushed back so why rush kightly and lose him for longer?

brummywolf
28-01-2008, 15:00
If Elliot plays like he did against Watford then a lot of people are going to be very pleasantly surprised.

Wolv3nsam
28-01-2008, 15:48
He's in too much of a hurry to get back, that's the problem.

Paul76
28-01-2008, 15:48
Jesus calm down for gods sake he's only had a slight pull.

Del Woppio
28-01-2008, 18:10
It has been obvious for weeks that Kites ankle is not right Well if it being on the website for weeks is obvious...and this latest news makes you wonder about our medical staff. I would not be surprised if he needs an op and if that is the case he could miss most if not all of this season. I hope I am wrong as we are not the same team without him.

I've said it before - his injury needs resting. It's extremely rare for the kind of ankle injury he has to need operating on.

Woburn Wolf
28-01-2008, 18:23
I've said it before - his injury needs resting. It's extremely rare for the kind of ankle injury he has to need operating on.
It sounds similar to the one Kevin Foley had when he was at Luton and that resulted in an op and Foley not playing for over 2 months.

Dewsburywolf
28-01-2008, 18:44
Dr. Klewless strikes again. Not to mention Craddock's small injury that he's taking a Dog's Age to come back from.

Essex Wolf
28-01-2008, 19:02
Dr. Klewless strikes again. Not to mention Craddock's small injury that he's taking a Dog's Age to come back from.

It will be interesting to know really who is to blame or if there is any blame to be apportioned.

goldeneyed
28-01-2008, 19:41
I reckon any real chance of promotion is resting on his fitness. If he's not able to play next Saturday or appear on the subs bench you have to fear that he could be out for a significantly longer period which would be just our luck when at last we have another winger to match him on the opposite wing.

Bumbamuffin
28-01-2008, 19:56
I've never known so many injuries that have either taken longer than anticipated to heal or players breaking down when recovering.Davies,Gobern,Kites,Craddock,Breen,O'Co nnor,Jarvis etc etc etc.

When was the last time that we had a player returning from injury earlier than first thought?

Are our physios of the required quality?

Professional
28-01-2008, 20:28
$$$$ing gutting news- perhaps it may make our wonderful manager delve into the loan market for a decent right winger on a short term deal- although that may be a bit obvious.

haden-wolf
28-01-2008, 20:36
froggy from my memory had his ankle smashed by a player we later signed. doubt it will be anywhere near as bad. I know we have had some very injury prone players and slow healers - but i'd guess our physio's are better qualified than us on ankles

Dewsburywolf
28-01-2008, 20:38
We have plenty of Options for the Right Wing. Elliott, Potter, Gibson who knows matbe even D. Edwards. MM won't Loan or Sign anyone.

N1GHTFALL
28-01-2008, 20:43
Don't worry, Tony Daley will show him the fastest route to recovery ....... oh hang on a minute....

Dewsburywolf
28-01-2008, 20:47
Tony Daley's the Fitness Coach ( no seriously ) not the Psychio.

Professional
28-01-2008, 21:38
the Psychio.
What's that? An Italian Hitchcock movie?

Dewsburywolf
28-01-2008, 21:43
Yes it is. I just thought I'd join the other Illiterates on here. Physio OK. Professional what exactly? Pedant?

19th Holer
28-01-2008, 22:35
Unlucky Kites, see you in August !

Bumbamuffin
28-01-2008, 22:54
Unlucky Kites, see you in August !

On TV for Tottenham:(

Kenny-11
28-01-2008, 23:14
What's that? An Italian Hitchcock movie?

:D

SOUTHBANK_BULLY
28-01-2008, 23:29
Bringing him on against Cambridge probably saved McCarthy's job, actually.

I wonder at what cost.



have to agree , if he hadnt of played he might be in the squad now and playing

i reckon that it will come to light in the next few days that he is out for the rest of the season needing a operation

Adrian_Monk
28-01-2008, 23:44
the guy that smashed froggatt's ankle was scott taylor.

Dr Wolfenstein
28-01-2008, 23:48
I've never known so many injuries that have either taken longer than anticipated to heal or players breaking down when recovering.Davies,Gobern,Kites,Craddock,Breen,O'Co nnor,Jarvis etc etc etc.



Exactly, how dare Watford try to undermine our victory by claiming to have rested 6 key players, We've got a whole bloody team out through injury, cup-tied, or on loan, or in Africa!

19th Holer
29-01-2008, 11:43
Exactly, how dare Watford try to undermine our victory by claiming to have rested 6 key players, We've got a whole bloody team out through injury, cup-tied, or on loan, or in Africa!


You were doing well until you mentioned Africa.

Langdale Wolf
29-01-2008, 11:54
Well according to the E&S it's a bad one that may need an op.

Bloody great.

Ah well, at least Jarvis seems to be finding his feet at the right time, and with Jones coming back, that may give us an extra option on the left, as well as Edwards.

Maybe MM will look to the loan market for extra cover if Kites is out for a few weeks? I can't see any more permanent business being done before the window shuts.

Still, on the bright side, Kites has barely featured in the last 2 games where we've actually looked like we've had a bit of width and creativity so maybe all is not lost.

jlovatt
29-01-2008, 11:56
You were doing well until you mentioned Africa.

Don't worry, that won't be the case come tomorrow.

Dewsburywolf
29-01-2008, 11:58
If Big George is coming back after Tomorrow then I really am getting worried.

Bevan
29-01-2008, 12:53
Well according to the E&S it's a bad one that may need an op.

Bloody great.

Ah well, at least Jarvis seems to be finding his feet at the right time, and with Jones coming back, that may give us an extra option on the left, as well as Edwards.

Maybe MM will look to the loan market for extra cover if Kites is out for a few weeks? I can't see any more permanent business being done before the window shuts.

Still, on the bright side, Kites has barely featured in the last 2 games where we've actually looked like we've had a bit of width and creativity so maybe all is not lost.

Kites is quoted on the Wolves site as saying it feels just as bad as it did when he first injured it, which isn't good news.

If I'm being honest with myself I don't think we will see Kightly again this season. The only positives I can get from this are (a) we will have to find a way of playing without him, which we seem to have done reasonably well the past 2 games, (b) it may force Mick to bring in additional cover, which we need anyway IMO, and finally (c) it will mean Kightly is very unlikely to leave us in the summer as he'd just be recovering from injury and I reckon he'll feel he owes us (a la Murray)

crocos
29-01-2008, 13:02
So let's just get this straight.

"Kightly rushed back too soon" = BOOOOOOOOOOOO!

"Davies not back soon enough" = BOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I see a formula in here somewhere:

"Any WWFC news" = BOOOOOOOOOO!

Woburn Wolf
29-01-2008, 13:07
Well according to the E&S it's a bad one that may need an op.

Bloody great.

Ah well, at least Jarvis seems to be finding his feet at the right time, and with Jones coming back, that may give us an extra option on the left, as well as Edwards.

Maybe MM will look to the loan market for extra cover if Kites is out for a few weeks? I can't see any more permanent business being done before the window shuts.

Still, on the bright side, Kites has barely featured in the last 2 games where we've actually looked like we've had a bit of width and creativity so maybe all is not lost.


In that Cardiff had reportedly accepted a fee, I'd like to think we would have another go at Ledley, after all Jarvis is naturally right footed and could play on the right wing.

broughtonwolf
29-01-2008, 13:08
Crocos - you have just cracked the Molineux Mix enigma code :rolleyes:

Woburn Wolf
29-01-2008, 13:10
Kites is quoted on the Wolves site as saying it feels just as bad as it did when he first injured it, which isn't good news.

If I'm being honest with myself I don't think we will see Kightly again this season. The only positives I can get from this are (a) we will have to find a way of playing without him, which we seem to have done reasonably well the past 2 games, (b) it may force Mick to bring in additional cover, which we need anyway IMO, and finally (c) it will mean Kightly is very unlikely to leave us in the summer as he'd just be recovering from injury and I reckon he'll feel he owes us (a la Murray)


I would not bank on it. If a Prem club comes shopping we have to accept that he could go as could any of our best youngsters in particular Hennessey and Foley. This is why this season has been so disappointing so far. The only way we have a decent chance of holding on to our best players is to get promoted.

Sozzled Wolf
29-01-2008, 13:11
Kites is quoted on the Wolves site as saying it feels just as bad as it did when he first injured it, which isn't good news.

If I'm being honest with myself I don't think we will see Kightly again this season. The only positives I can get from this are (a) we will have to find a way of playing without him, which we seem to have done reasonably well the past 2 games, (b) it may force Mick to bring in additional cover, which we need anyway IMO, and finally (c) it will mean Kightly is very unlikely to leave us in the summer as he'd just be recovering from injury and I reckon he'll feel he owes us (a la Murray)

I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see him for the rest of this campaign, either.

If Gobern and/or Davies are well on the road to recovery/vying for first team action soon then I think we'll have sufficient cover in this position.

If it becomes the case that he's out until the summer, and the club decide to let him move on, my main fear is that potential buyers will have justification to reduce his value by a million or so, claiming the risk factor as their excuse.

Edgmond Wolf
29-01-2008, 13:27
It is sad to say but that might be the last we see of Kites this season.

His ankle has broken down twice now, both times after a reasonable layoff and recovery period.

Also I do not see us getting in a replacement, Elliot is doing a job there at the moment and we have enough cover for right side

Bevan
29-01-2008, 13:28
Very true. If he goes in the summer after a long injury layoff we'd get nowhere near his full valuation, which I'd put at around £5m.

Sozzled Wolf
29-01-2008, 13:31
Indeedy. I'd guess £3m-£3.5m would be more likely.

saturday boy
29-01-2008, 13:36
Very true. If he goes in the summer after a long injury layoff we'd get nowhere near his full valuation, which I'd put at around £5m.

No professional footballer goes through their career without some injury - indeed most of the time, most footballers are carrying some sort of injury.

Kightly is tied down to a long term contract so Wolves don't have to sell unless they want to - and even if he ends up on the sidelines for the rest of the season it won't make a jot of difference to his valuation unless the injury is so bad that he is not going to regain full fitness for a very long time and then his value is virtually nil to whoever employs him.

Edgmond Wolf
29-01-2008, 13:39
I am not worried about his valuation to be honest. I would rather see him wearing the Old Gold & Black and running at the opposition defence.

He added excitment everytime he got the ball which we have been missing

Woburn Wolf
29-01-2008, 14:00
Unlucky Kites, see you in August !
If he still with us then!!

Woburn Wolf
29-01-2008, 14:04
No professional footballer goes through their career without some injury - indeed most of the time, most footballers are carrying some sort of injury.

Kightly is tied down to a long term contract so Wolves don't have to sell unless they want to - and even if he ends up on the sidelines for the rest of the season it won't make a jot of difference to his valuation unless the injury is so bad that he is not going to regain full fitness for a very long time and then his value is virtually nil to whoever employs him.


Whilst this is technically true the harsh reality is that if Kites really wants to go it makes no sense for the club to stand in his way. The long contract simply means we should get a halfway decent fee for him.

Dewsburywolf
29-01-2008, 14:06
How many times as Kightly said he's willing to stay and get into the Prem with Wolves?

goldeneyed
29-01-2008, 14:17
What's all this absolute gloomy nonsense about Kites leaving in the summer! Even if we don't go up he will stay (barring ridiculous offers by which I mean £6m upwards). However, after one more season I agree that he would want to go if we were still languishing in this dreadful division. Despite our current poor league position we are an upwardly mobile club with plenty of money/support. As long as we keep progressing he will stick with us imv.

Langdale Wolf
29-01-2008, 14:17
In that Cardiff had reportedly accepted a fee, I'd like to think we would have another go at Ledley, after all Jarvis is naturally right footed and could play on the right wing.

Agreed - Ledley would be a great buy. Unfortunatley, as all clubs seem to find during January, if players don't want to move, there's very little we can do.

When is the deadline for loan deals? It's possible MM could find us a wide man on loan for the season with a view to a permanent move in the summer.

I'm just praying we see Kites again this season. Expect nothing - hope for everything. That should be the motto of being a Wolves fan!!

Sozzled Wolf
29-01-2008, 14:22
How many times as Kightly said he's willing to stay and get into the Prem with Wolves?

...as long as it's this season?? ;)

No. 7 George Bowen
29-01-2008, 14:41
What's all this absolute gloomy nonsense about Kites leaving in the summer! Even if we don't go up he will stay (barring ridiculous offers by which I mean £6m upwards). However, after one more season I agree that he would want to go if we were still languishing in this dreadful division. Despite our current poor league position we are an upwardly mobile club with plenty of money/support. As long as we keep progressing he will stick with us imv.

Seconded.

There is absolutely no chance of him leaving this summer. He is signed onto the project and the earliest possible time he will leave would be the next Jan transfer window and thats only if we didn't have the remotest chance of reaching the play offs.

He is a loyal person, unlike say Ince;), both to the club and Mick who gave him his chance. Also he is young and alot of his teammates are friends not just colleagues.

Get a grip.


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