View Full Version : Who do you want as the Next Woves Manager
SmokeyGB
26-12-2007, 17:27
If MM is given the boot within the Next few weeks who would you like at the Wolves....
we love jez moxey
26-12-2007, 17:30
he should go tonight. Fingers crossed! I voted incey, but would love to see big sam at wolves.
this is assuming big sam is sacked at newcastle?
we love jez moxey
26-12-2007, 17:37
if big sam is sacked, then we have to do anything to bring him home
Adrian_Monk
26-12-2007, 17:38
awful poll, no option to keep mick, no stuart gray....
SmokeyGB
26-12-2007, 17:44
Sorry but if you want to keep MM or keep Inhouse then you must be happy with a struggling team
It's like a cancer in the club, We keep the old staff and whenever we get a new manager they never bring a Full backroom staff with them..
TBH the Club and that level needs a complete CLEAROUT.
So i am not sorry for having MM as an option like it says
" Who do you want as the Next Woves Manager ? "
If you cannot reply in a sesiable manner dont post anything at all
Oh I can't decide. I'd be happy with any of Baxter, Big Sam and Paul Ince. Although I think only Paul Ince would actually accept the job, and even then I'm not sure - he'd probably need 6 months to decide.
Visage Wolf
26-12-2007, 20:16
if big sam is sacked, then we have to do anything to bring him home
He has never had any success without spending multi-millions.
Bolton were 60m in debt by the time he left. I dont want Wolves to be in that situation.
Dewsburywolf
26-12-2007, 20:38
I said it earlier today on another post it's not just about MM. How come Terry Connor has kept his job throughout the last 4 or 5 managers? And now he's effectively Assistant Manager. That coincided more or less with the carp run we're now on.
Bolton were 60m in debt by the time he left. I dont want Wolves to be in that situation.
But we wouldn't be, cos we'd be selling out our expanded 50,000 seater stadium every week.
Harlow Wolf
26-12-2007, 21:02
I said it earlier today on another post it's not just about MM. How come Terry Connor has kept his job throughout the last 4 or 5 managers? And now he's effectively Assistant Manager. That coincided more or less with the carp run we're now on.
I mentioned to my Mrs who knows nothing about football that people are talking about Mick getting sacked (she's Irish and has a soft spot for him:)). However she made a good point by asking would they have someone else lined up which I doubt, meaning Connor would probably have to be a caretaker at a time when games are coming thick and fast. Is there anyone else at the club who could step up for a few games - I can't think of anyone.
Dewsburywolf
26-12-2007, 21:05
Dear God please don't let Connor take FULL charge of the team. I'd rather have Breen as Caretaker.
Woburn Wolf
26-12-2007, 21:22
1. Martin Jol (Only possible if Morgan is ambitious enough
2. Paul Ince ( may only be possible if Moxey goes too - yes please)
3. Sam Allardyce (but cannot see it)
4. Gary Johnson
i`d like ince from that list. I wouldnt mind somebody like houllier as i think he is somebody with vision who could change the mentality of this club. I know some will say he wasnt a success at liverpool but its all relative. I wouldnt mind wolves finishing 4th or 5th in the prem. It might be classed as failure at liverpool but it wouldnt be at wolves. Jol would be another good option. Morgan would have to show a hell of a lot of ambition though to get in a manager like that.
dolmanrj
27-12-2007, 00:57
Mick McCarthy
every body has to be a comedian :D
Adrian_Monk
27-12-2007, 01:27
I wouldnt mind somebody like houllier as i think he is somebody with vision who could change the mentality of this club.
Houllier is an idiot. His man management skills make Hoddle look like Dale Carnegie. After failing to get the required one point to qualify for USA in fixtures against Bulgaria and Israel, he blamed the entire qualifying campaign on David Ginola for a misplaced cross in the last minute of the last game.
When Sylvain Wiltord was asked whom he hoped Lyon would appoint as manager, he said 'Anyone but Houllier'. Jari Litmanen was stifled of all creativity under Houlliers stewardship, designed to squash the creative life out of any team.
His ability in the transfer market is without question the worst in the history of English football. Over £50m blown on the likes of Igor Biscan, Bruno Cheyrou, Bernard Diomede, Anthony Le Tallec, El Hadji Diouf, Salif Diao, Florent Sinama-Pongolle, Gregory Vignal, Emile Heskey, Djibril Cisse, etc.
His tactical ability is truly awful. Despite winning the mickey mouse treble, thanks in no small part to Gary McAllister, he managed to blow it in big games at Liverpool as well as for France. Who can forget the defeat against Bradford that saved City and condemned Liverpool to the UEFA cup. Also, the champions league game against Leverkusen where he replaced the outstanding Hamann with Smicer, leaving the defence exposed and inevitably resulting in defeat. Houllier continued the trend with Lyon, trickling over the finish line with an outstanding team that had the potential to reach the semi finas of the Champions League.
Finally, anyone hoping for Houllier should refer to Steve Morgans comments during his spell at Liverpool:
“He's six years into a five-year plan.”
“Anyone can make mistakes, but we just seem to have made a hell of a lot of them.”
In the words of Wiltord:
ANYONE BUT HOULLIER
He has never had any success without spending multi-millions.
Bolton were 60m in debt by the time he left. I dont want Wolves to be in that situation.
But a fair chunk of that is down to Bolton's average attendence being ****..
A wolves side with half the success Bolton have had in recent years and being an established club in the prem would have a full house every week. Part of Bolton's debt was already there when they went up If i remember rightly, we arent in that situation any more.
Whilst i wouldnt want us being majorly in debt, more or less every football club bar the big 4 has to run on a debt level these days.. Fortunately premiership survival and the £30m minimum a season cushions that debt.
HIGHLANDER
27-12-2007, 02:11
Ince or Big Sam.
Toupee4Rae
27-12-2007, 02:17
Ince should have got the job in the first place, Its only because he is black they didnt offer him the job .... remember?
What about all the work he did with france? He basically developed the side that won the world cup. And as for your list of players ( Igor Biscan, Bruno Cheyrou, Bernard Diomede, Anthony Le Tallec, El Hadji Diouf, Salif Diao, Florent Sinama-Pongolle, Gregory Vignal, Emile Heskey, Djibril Cisse ) I`d take most of them, they are better than what we have. He was still successfull with lyon , didnt he win two championships in a row?
As for his " mickey mouse treble " i`m sure you would love wolves to win just one of those trophies. Or we could just keep mick, he has excellent man managment skills doesnt he. How many honours has he won in the game again?
Adrian_Monk
27-12-2007, 02:52
there is no doubting houllier can organise- he has a talent for weeding out troublemakers and putting out an organised team. His schoolmaster approach was successful in harnessing the talents of parisian tearaways and worked in the short run with liverpools spice boys. As soon as he got a bit of money though he wasted it. We're complaining about mccarthy spending £4.5m and having more points at this stage of the season than last season, houllier spent £140m at liverpool and won an fa cup, a league cup no-one was bothered about and a uefa cup that should have been the least of his targets all thanks to owen and fowler, two players he inherited, and failed to qualify for the champions league. Would you be happy if mccarthy spent £4.5m on a midfielder who 4 years later, still in his prime, struggled to get a contract at stoke? I didn't even mention westerveld and traore in that list. If you'd be happy with that i'm afraid you're clinically insane.
i would be happy with quite a lot of those players you listed. I agree some of them are rubbish, but most of them are a lot better than what we have. I`d love to see cisse at wolves. He was an excellent player before he broke his leg. Like i have said before, houllier failed to give liverpool what they wanted, but we would be over the moon if he won those trophies at wolves. I cant argue with likes of diao, but even wenger and ferguson have wasted money on players.
I did only use houllier as an example of a manager we could bring in who could change this club for the better. There maybe better options, i just cant think of any at the moment.
Black Suit
27-12-2007, 03:11
At Bolton, Sam tended to get people in on loan and free agents rather than spend big money all of the time.
He did it well too black suit.
Plastic Shrapnel
27-12-2007, 07:39
Am I right in thinking Big Sam is a Wolves fan?
Or have I just dreamt that at some point in my life?
I'd love Big Sam at the club, but I really can't see MM getting the chop until the end of the season, and I think that's what he deserves. However if I was Morgan, I wouldn't let McCarthy anywhere near my money unless the player is a phenom of a talent, and proven!
peterwolf
27-12-2007, 07:42
forget Paul Ince MK Dons will not give permission for anyone to speak
to him. Leicester tried and failed why do you think they will change
their minds now when they look like they will get promoted.
Taffywolf
27-12-2007, 09:04
forget Paul Ince MK Dons will not give permission for anyone to speak
to him. Leicester tried and failed why do you think they will change
their minds now when they look like they will get promoted.
Because Ince would walk over glass to get the job...
wolfie smith
27-12-2007, 09:34
i think big sam is out of our league, unless of course he gets the chop at newcastle. would he come here? with the promise of money he may just fancy it, but would he bring too much baggage from his transfer dealings?
ince, up and coming a bit like the team we all want:rolleyes:.
baxter, for me a no, not sure he knows the championship too well but if he can organise a team and put square pegs in square holes get a shift out of the players then maybe!
i feel morgan has said carry on as you are building a team from lesser players and see if it works, if he can see what is happening on the pitch surely he will question at some time whether we are progressing in the right direction. we may have more points at this stage than last season but surely he can see the performances are dire at best. im afraid we may have to stomach more of the same until capt. mrogan sees the light.
Woburn Wolf
27-12-2007, 09:54
At Bolton, Sam tended to get people in on loan and free agents rather than spend big money all of the time.
Like Okocha and Campo for example.
Woburn Wolf
27-12-2007, 09:57
forget Paul Ince MK Dons will not give permission for anyone to speak
to him. Leicester tried and failed why do you think they will change
their minds now when they look like they will get promoted.
If Ince wants out and tells them so, MK will have little option but to let him go. The same applies to players. So for my money, Ince is very much a possibility. I think the barrier could be Moxey who was a bit condescending to him at the end but Morgan has the power to unload him too if he wants to.
leedswolf
27-12-2007, 10:04
For the Big Spam lovers;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/7161123.stm
Essex Wolf
27-12-2007, 10:13
Is McCarthy leaving then?
I would ask anyone who voted for Ince to consider the fact that by signing for MK Dons(they were once Wimbledon, remember?) he sold his soul and having done it once it's a safe assumption he would do it again. I would never trust him with my club.
Visage Wolf
27-12-2007, 10:17
But a fair chunk of that is down to Bolton's average attendence being ****..
Then they should have cut their cloth accordingly. SA racked up a debt of 60m and a wage bill of close to 30m a year.
Even SBB_UK could get a team to mid table premiership obscurity with that kind of support.
And the notion that a fanbase as fickle as ours would regularly fill a 50k stadium to support a comparable wage bill is quite frankly $$$$$$$$
Visage Wolf
27-12-2007, 10:18
I would ask anyone who voted for Ince to consider the fact that by signing for MK Dons(they were once Wimbledon, remember?) he sold his soul and having done it once it's a safe assumption he would do it again. I would never trust him with my club.
Ince has never been under pressure, either. He inherited a decent squad at MK |Dons, and hasnt had to make any really tough decisions. Wait until they have a few bad results (as they surely will), to see if he's a decent manager.
Essex Wolf
27-12-2007, 10:37
Thread alert thread alert, VW's opinions only.
Am I allowed to say this VW?
leedswolf
27-12-2007, 10:38
Great post Excess
Essex Wolf
27-12-2007, 10:49
Great post Excess
And today LW is a parrot.
leedswolf
27-12-2007, 10:52
Great post Pretty Boy.
Essex Wolf
27-12-2007, 10:56
Great post Pretty Boy.
A rather pathetic tw**ish parrot mind.
wolfie smith
27-12-2007, 10:59
Ince has never been under pressure, either. He inherited a decent squad at MK |Dons, and hasnt had to make any really tough decisions. Wait until they have a few bad results (as they surely will), to see if he's a decent manager.
never under pressure at macc was he, no bottom of the league miles behind others and kept them up. he didnt inherit the best team in the league at MK but has got them performing well. no guarantee he'd do it here though but im not writing him off.
wolfie smith
27-12-2007, 11:02
For the Big Spam lovers;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/7161123.stm
i was about to post a bit about this,
from that link,
Allardyce laid the blame for the defeat squarely at the feet of his team and agreed with the supporters' assessment of the performance.
He added: "If I was them I would be singing what they sang because we're not good enough," said the manager.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/shared/img/o.gif
"Everyone can have an off day, but our off days are really off
Sam Allardyce
"I know it's not good enough, so it doesn't take much for them to work out it's not good enough. They are not daft.
"The level of form the players have dropped to is unacceptable.
"Everyone can have an off day, but our off days are really off. Right now the only pressure on us is what we are putting on ourselves because we are performing at that level.
"We have to accept that pressure and use it as a positive, not a negative, not shrivel and die. "You have to roll your sleeves up, wear your heart on your sleeve and go and fight because that is what gets you out of difficult situations."
how come big sam can see his players are not performing yet sick mccarthy blames the fans and wont admit the team is playing rubbish.
Essex Wolf
27-12-2007, 11:03
WS, the facts don't apply when trying to converse with VW.
leedswolf
27-12-2007, 11:05
Who's the 'parrot' now Excess?
Essex Wolf
27-12-2007, 11:07
Who's the 'parrot' now Excess?
FFS, now you follow me as well, talk about parrot on a shoulder.:rolleyes:
leedswolf
27-12-2007, 11:10
FFS, now you follow me as well, talk about parrot on a shoulder.:rolleyes:
Not following, just putting forward an opinion. I trust that I am allowed an opinion?
kidder_wolf_II
27-12-2007, 11:14
Given the choice i would like to see Gary Johnson of Bristol City take over from MM.
Hatch End Wolf
27-12-2007, 11:52
Mick will be sacked in the very near future whether VW and his Yorkshire Puppet like it or not...........unless Morgan has been convinced by Mick, that there is an acceptable reason for the poor level of performance this season; that there is an agreed plan for an improvement; and that the purchase of ( expensive ) players in January will improve the team to an acceptable level.
Wolv3nsam
27-12-2007, 12:00
Given the choice i would like to see Gary Johnson of Bristol City take over from MM.
Considering where Bristol City are that's very unlikely.
Wolv3nsam
27-12-2007, 12:01
how come big sam can see his players are not performing yet sick mccarthy blames the fans and wont admit the team is playing rubbish.
Part of it is down to the fans. At Molineux the players are a bundle of nerves and just want the ball away from them because of the constant shouts of "SHOOT", the moans and groans, the hissy fitting.
Back the team and let them play football the way they want to. It worked last season.
Munich_Wolf
27-12-2007, 12:18
I'd hope we could get Kevin Keagan in, if MM was to go.
N. Herts Wolf
27-12-2007, 12:20
I'd hope we could get Kevin Keagan in, if MM was to go.
I'd hope that that is a joke.
kidder_wolf_II
27-12-2007, 12:24
Considering where Bristol City are that's very unlikely.
But they are a small club with limited resources. If Gary Johnson wants to be a successful Premiership manager he will need to move away from city as some point.
The question is can we sell ourselves to him or will he stick it out until a prem club comes calling?
Dewsburywolf
27-12-2007, 12:27
Only just noticed Lawrie Sanchez on the list of possible replacements for MM. Yes let's get him in he might be able to get some Irish players in. DOH !
What do people think about Billy Davies...?
What do people think about Billy Davies...?
Another loser.
Ince has never been under pressure, either. He inherited a decent squad at MK |Dons, and hasnt had to make any really tough decisions. Wait until they have a few bad results (as they surely will), to see if he's a decent manager.
He inherited a $$$$$ squad at Macclesfield as well.
Mick will be sacked in the very near future whether VW and his Yorkshire Puppet like it or not...........unless Morgan has been convinced by Mick, that there is an acceptable reason for the poor level of performance this season; that there is an agreed plan for an improvement; and that the purchase of ( expensive ) players in January will improve the team to an acceptable level.
Having lost the spine of their team how much did the Albion spend to attain their brand of free flowing, exciting 'GOAL SCORING' football. We've spent £4M+ and cant even put the friggin ball in the net.
Oldgold Wolfcub
27-12-2007, 12:50
I would be amazed if Morgan did not have who he wants as manager already in mind. Maybe though Morgan was waiting for McCarthy to become less popular before moving to his chosen manager.
I would be amazed if Morgan did not have who he wants as manager already in mind. Maybe though Morgan was waiting for McCarthy to become less popular before moving to his chosen manager.
If i was Morgan this morning i'd be thinking 'What the $$$$ing hell have i done'. SJH can be excused a wry smile .. that £30M wont last long when you're always searching for the final piece in the jigsaw.
Japan Wulf
27-12-2007, 14:07
I would be amazed if Morgan did not have who he wants as manager already in mind.
You may very well be correct but is there any reason to believe he knows any more about the subject than all the others who have chosen our managers over the past 15 years?
Hope he does or we'll still be pi** poor in yet another 15 years.
Then they should have cut their cloth accordingly. SA racked up a debt of 60m and a wage bill of close to 30m a year.
Even SBB_UK could get a team to mid table premiership obscurity with that kind of support.
And the notion that a fanbase as fickle as ours would regularly fill a 50k stadium to support a comparable wage bill is quite frankly $$$$$$$$
Didn't realise you got a place in the UEFA cup for mid table obscurity, I always thought you had to finish quite high up, thanks for enlightening me
Personally, if we changed the manager, I'd be happy with Either Gary Johnson or Paul Ince
Dewsburywolf
27-12-2007, 14:17
You can get a European spot by being a Mid table Obscurity place if you win a Cup. Not that we're gonna do that either. I bet Cambridge are wetting themselves.
leedswolf
27-12-2007, 15:20
Yorkshire Puppet
Who is that?
leedswolf
27-12-2007, 15:21
A rather pathetic tw**ish parrot mind.
Cutting ................
Ginger Chimp
27-12-2007, 15:44
I would be amazed if Morgan did not have who he wants as manager already in mind. Maybe though Morgan was waiting for McCarthy to become less popular before moving to his chosen manager.
Does that mean that Morgan's "chosen" manager is currently less popular than MM and we need to see MM become even worse before being "sold" Morgan's unpopular saviour ... if you see what I mean?:eek:
SaleWolf
27-12-2007, 16:38
Would love Incey but if Allardyce were avilable it would be a close call between the two.
Couldn't see Allardyce coming here though even if the rumours are true and he is a Wolves fan.
wolvesinwales
27-12-2007, 17:07
If i was Morgan i would be thinking those $$$$$$s on MM have now moved on from expertly pointing out where Mick is going wrong to posting a poll for his replacement.
The miss spelling of Wolves in the title of the thread says it all.
The Weasel
27-12-2007, 17:19
Mick McCarthy - lets just give him a 4 year deal and stop all the speculation right now, that way we can plan long term
duanepipe
27-12-2007, 17:33
Ideally Paul Ince for me. That way I can take up another hobby for as long as he's in charge as I wouldn't set foot in the ground or pay any of my hard earned money to the club if he was given the top job. I could barely stomach him wearing the shirt let alone wearing the captain's armband - but I did. If he was given the manager's job though, I'd take a long holiday from watching the team. He's an overrated arrogant tosspot. In many respects, he's the manager a lot of fans do deserve. At least giving him the manager's job would afford me the opportunity to experience what it's like hoping the team loses each week so I can march around with a big, fat 'I told you so' chip on my shoulder. It does look like a lot of fun.
singwolf_1
27-12-2007, 17:40
Martin Jol, thank you very much.
kidder_wolf_II
27-12-2007, 17:53
Martin Jol, thank you very much.
Keep dreaming :D:D:D
I think Paul Ince would be a excellent manager but the massive worry is Ince not having experience of spending millions in the transfer market.
Remember David Platt for Forest?
kidder_wolf_II
27-12-2007, 17:57
I think Paul Ince would be a excellent manager but the massive worry is Ince not having experience of spending millions in the transfer market.
Remember David Platt for Forest?
I would be more worried about him ditching us 6 months on if a big Premiership job came up.
He doesnt know the meaning of the word loyalty and i wouldnt trust him to do whats in the best interests of the club.
I would be more worried about him ditching us 6 months on if a big Premiership job came up.
He doesnt know the meaning of the word loyalty and i wouldnt trust him to do whats in the best interests of the club.
I don't believe that loyalty would be an issue.
He simply has no experience at this level and he's got no track record in the transfer market.
I wouldn't feel comfortable with Ince being responsible for millions of pounds. We've wasted millions in the past and we can't afford to make the same mistakes of the past.
If we are to have a new manager he's got to be proven in this league and have a proven track record in the transfer market.
HSV Wolf
27-12-2007, 18:25
The Badger.....Wolverhampton born and bred and would frighten the life out of 'em, particularly if she promised to join them in the showers after every loss !!!
peterwolf
28-12-2007, 06:00
Ken Mckenna
wanderer24
28-12-2007, 07:43
Say what you like about Ince, his record as manager is quite stunning. He saved a team that was destined for relegation and turned an average team into potential champions in a very short period.
jackfieldwolf
28-12-2007, 08:31
The Badger.....Wolverhampton born and bred and would frighten the life out of 'em, particularly if she promised to join them in the showers after every loss !!!
:D
EddieClamp-tops
28-12-2007, 09:14
He simply has no experience at this level and he's got no track record in the transfer market.
I wouldn't feel comfortable with Ince being responsible for millions of pounds. We've wasted millions in the past and we can't afford to make the same mistakes of the past.
If we are to have a new manager he's got to be proven in this league and have a proven track record in the transfer market.
Surely every manager that has ever been has had to start to spend money at some stage without having experience? No matter whether it is Stan Cullis, Matt Busby, Wenger, Ferguson, Clough or Shankly there has to be a first time to buy someone and a first time to be given the chance to manage a top club, or at least one with ambition.
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