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KAZZZZ
26-12-2007, 16:38
well even the sky sports commentators are saying shot shy wolves, and in this poor league we get smashed again by hull.

looking at the team today i was hoping for a win, although wonder why jay was playing on left and jarvis on right, and bar collins was happy with the starting team.

cant even make excuses anymore for the bad results and lack of chances and goals.

think mick has to go now, the blame has to lay with him. please take terry conner with you.

im sure the happy clappers will make his excuses again like (we are just of play offs) (look what he done last season) etc etc. but the fact is we are getting worse evrey week.

over 8 hours with no goal away from home, no saves by hull goal keeper.

The Weasel
26-12-2007, 16:57
Nah, only the people who are really pedantic about spelling

KAZZZZ
26-12-2007, 16:58
Nah, only the people who are really pedantic about spelling


so what i cant spell so good, this is about are football team not are grama.

another 16 year old getting clever.

Gratters
26-12-2007, 16:59
Just off the playoffs ? we are now only ONE point from the bottom half !! Tell the happy clappers that !

Norwich will roll us over too - then we will be around 6-7 pts off the relegation zone where we should be !

Taffywolf
26-12-2007, 17:02
We are in free fall. But worse of all the side play with no ideas, No game plan. Mick must go now whilst there is enough of the season left to turn things around..

wolfyjoe
26-12-2007, 17:02
Pardon?!

The Weasel
26-12-2007, 17:05
so what i cant spell so good, this is about are football team not are grama.

another 16 year old getting clever.

Sorry mate, you've given me a rare smile on another grim day. You make some valid points above and right now I'm still praying this is just one hell of a blip in form - though it looks to me like our confidence is shot and we just can't play as a team without Kightly out there.

I've watched us for over 20 years and countless managers, and by and large chopping and changing and throwing money at the problem hasn't worked - we're still where we were 20 years ago after all. That's why I hope we can turn this around. I know I'll get drowned out in the "sack MM" rants, but hey, whatever, we all want success for the club we love, we just don't all agree about the best way to achieve it.

And seriously, thanks for calling me a 16 year old. Made my day! :D

KAZZZZ
26-12-2007, 17:10
Sorry mate, you've given me a rare smile on another grim day. You make some valid points above and right now I'm still praying this is just one hell of a blip in form - though it looks to me like our confidence is shot and we just can't play as a team without Kightly out there.

I've watched us for over 20 years and countless managers, and by and large chopping and changing and throwing money at the problem hasn't worked - we're still where we were 20 years ago after all. That's why I hope we can turn this around. I know I'll get drowned out in the "sack MM" rants, but hey, whatever, we all want success for the club we love, we just don't all agree about the best way to achieve it.

And seriously, thanks for calling me a 16 year old. Made my day! :D


now thats what you should of wrote 1st time, i respect your opinion although i dont agree about sticking with mick.

i worry that kites and craddock come back, we start scraping a few results, and then mick thinks nothing wrong again.

sorry about the 16 year old comment

Hatch End Wolf
26-12-2007, 17:10
Dear Kazzzzzz, the problem with people who write and spell in an illiterate manner is that it's harder to take their opinions seriously.
If in fact you are not illiterate perhaps it's time to drop the stupid act!

Adrian_Monk
26-12-2007, 17:11
i'm disappointed too, but my advice is keep the faith. Don't chuck in the towel just yet- the players need to keep putting a shift in and it will come right.

5150
26-12-2007, 17:13
i'm disappointed too, but my advice is keep the faith. Don't chuck in the towel just yet- the players need to keep putting a shift in and it will come right.

My exact thoughts ....after the 2nd performance of this dire run we are on.When it gets to this many games,I seriously think a change has to be made.

Management or players ?....I am 70 / 30 at the minute.

KAZZZZ
26-12-2007, 17:13
i'm disappointed too, but my advice is keep the faith. Don't chuck in the towel just yet- the players need to keep putting a shift in and it will come right.


lol cant wait for the interview, who will he say was diff class

wolfie smith
26-12-2007, 17:14
carp, utter carp

this club needs a $$$$ing big shake up, morgan needs to get someone in with vision not someone with one drab boring way of playing. someone of the ilk of houllier, who knows how to play football, can get his own backroom staff to work these players into a team we can be proud of.
i cannot see any pattern to our play, our goals scored and shots at goal must be the worst in the country for a team supposedly chasing automatic:rolleyes:.
MM out:(

KAZZZZ
26-12-2007, 17:15
Dear Kazzzzzz, the problem with people who write and spell in an illiterate manner is that it's harder to take their opinions seriously.
If in fact you are not illiterate perhaps it's time to drop the stupid act!


listen mate, i do my best. as a fellow supporter of the team we love i think you being very cruel.

The Weasel
26-12-2007, 17:18
now thats what you should of wrote 1st time, i respect your opinion although i dont agree about sticking with mick.

i worry that kites and craddock come back, we start scraping a few results, and then mick thinks nothing wrong again.

sorry about the 16 year old comment

No worries mate, I can see where you're coming from and you may well be right - if MM has lost the dressing room then there's no way back for him, if he hasn't though and its just that this young team has lost all confidence because it lacks leadership at the back through the likes of Craddock and/or Breen and a matchwinner in Kightly, then maybe, just maybe we'd be throwing the baby out with the bathwater....

Wonder how many ManU fans wanted rid of Ferguson 18 months in when they were dire???

we love jez moxey
26-12-2007, 17:28
i thought the team selection was very positive today, but tactically we are totally without a clue. I really struggle to see results improving with the current management. I we have really struggled since the west brom game but apart from burnley i don't think we've played a decent team.

Bevan
26-12-2007, 17:28
i'm disappointed too, but my advice is keep the faith. Don't chuck in the towel just yet- the players need to keep putting a shift in and it will come right.

I've read a few of your posts on the match thread too. I can only assume that you are taking the michael on a huge scale, in which case kudos to you for being funny.

Gratters
26-12-2007, 17:43
listen mate, i do my best. as a fellow supporter of the team we love i think you being very cruel.

Ignore him - I would rather read a post from someone whos spelling isn't so good than a perfectly spelt poster talking crap ! You are as entitlied to your opinion as anyone

goldfish
26-12-2007, 18:07
It's true. I'm laughing at us. I'm sat here now, $$$$ing myself at the fact that a medium sized football club hasn't won for a few games.

jbarnettuk1984
26-12-2007, 18:10
wow. what a verdict thread this turned out to be.

Oldgold Wolfcub
26-12-2007, 18:13
wow. what a verdict thread this turned out to be.
Yep I think we have all got the spelling of verdict correct.:eek:

Ogerp
26-12-2007, 18:15
Wonder how many ManU fans wanted rid of Ferguson 18 months in when they were dire???

Remind me of what he had won at Aberdeen and what Mick's won to compare?

wolvesman
26-12-2007, 18:30
Remind me of what he had won at Aberdeen and what Mick's won to compare?

I see your point, but the suggestion here is that many many (try to get them to confess it now though !) of manure fans were booing and calling for his head. The board stuck by him and the rest is history as they say. At the time they didnt give a damn about what he had done at Aberdeen.
However personally I think the good faith between MM and the mob might be lost forever.

MK Panther
26-12-2007, 18:49
I see your point, but the suggestion here is that many many (try to get them to confess it now though !) of manure fans were booing and calling for his head. The board stuck by him and the rest is history as they say. At the time they didnt give a damn about what he had done at Aberdeen.
However personally I think the good faith between MM and the mob might be lost forever.

Ferguson very rarely went on a losing streak for years after. If he had gone on another losing streak shortly after then he would have been history. The Wolves performance is dire when it should be getting stronger. We are getting back to every team seeing us as one point or three points to be gained. They know our defence and midfield is weak and are not sitting back and going for the jugular.

big-blue-wolf
26-12-2007, 19:13
Mr Morgan needs to bring in a manager along the lines of Wenger, Ferguson or Curbishly who will change the whole ethos and structure of the club.

Unfortunately this approach would take a LOT of time, something which most Wolves fans will probably never give to any manager.

The trouble is the hardest thing would be to find that person.

Papper
26-12-2007, 19:20
Molineux Mix is currently very $$$$. The standard of posters with enough of an IQ to make a balanced contribution about the football team has been reduced to an all time low. You never get a verdict thread without girly squabbling and as a whole the place is infested with circling vultures with no sense or reason. I would also like to point out that the one's who can't spell are normally the most guilty of talking absolute and utter $$$$$. Funny that.

Taffywolf
26-12-2007, 19:30
Molineux Mix is currently very $$$$. The standard of posters with enough of an IQ to make a balanced contribution about the football team has been reduced to an all time low. You never get a verdict thread without girly squabbling and as a whole the place is infested with circling vultures with no sense or reason. I would also like to point out that the one's who can't spell are normally the most guilty of talking absolute and utter $$$$$. Funny that.

Whatever you say paper..

As High as a Kightly
26-12-2007, 19:37
I saw loads of decent efforts on goal today! Or was tha the warm-up I was watching?

northnorfolkwolf
26-12-2007, 20:37
Today's team was pretty much what we had all been asking for. They still did not have a clue. MM is really stuck for Norwich. Stick or Twist?

wallace
26-12-2007, 20:40
why do we keep belting the ball in the air when we dont have the type of players to make that approach effective? the confidence and shape as completely gone out of the team and nobody wants the ball anymore. keep it on the deck and shoot whenever possible because not getting a worthwhile shot on target gets us nowhere. the players we have are better than the results at the moment. perhaps a change of formation would help, such as 4-3-1-2.
hennessey
foley craddock ward gray
jarvis henry gibson
eastwood
keogh bothroyd
subs ikeme edwards davies potter elliot
would be the team id play at norwic.h

Dewsburywolf
26-12-2007, 20:46
Team was pretty much what we were asking for except for MM's Pet Collins at Left Back. He'll probably use that in his Interviews as well.

Willy_Bright_Jnr
26-12-2007, 21:48
Just got back in. It was a lovely drive up the M1. No problems parking (thanks leedswolf), friendly locals, pleasant stewards and staff at the stadium, a fantastic chicken balti pie, then the day went tits up!

I’ve not watched a performance that bad for a long time. I’d stopped being annoyed mid-way through the 2nd half, it was pure delirium by this stage. We only seemed to be able to either hoof the ball up field or play it on the ground side ways for 10 passes. City hustled, didn’t give us any space or time on the ball, and that was all that was required to completely unsettle us. I felt we started average in the first half and descended into the atrocious. I wouldn’t like to single any player out because as a team we were awful. We looked unbalanced and awkward from the kick off. Really not sure where we go from here :(

PeteWolf
26-12-2007, 21:55
friendly locals,
Makes a change for up there. Always been rough when I've been to Hull. At both the KC and Boothferry Park.

Harlow Wolf
26-12-2007, 22:00
Just got back in. It was a lovely drive up the M1. No problems parking (thanks leedswolf), friendly locals, pleasant stewards and staff at the stadium, a fantastic chicken balti pie, then the day went tits up!

I’ve not watched a performance that bad for a long time. I’d stopped being annoyed mid-way through the 2nd half, it was pure delirium by this stage. We only seemed to be able to either hoof the ball up field or play it on the ground side ways for 10 passes. City hustled, didn’t give us any space or time on the ball, and that was all that was required to completely unsettle us. I felt we started average in the first half and descended into the atrocious. I wouldn’t like to single any player out because as a team we were awful. We looked unbalanced and awkward from the kick off. Really not sure where we go from here :(

Thanks WBJ. The sad thing is that what you say could have been written about every game we've played since Albion and a good few of them before too. Just when you think it can't get any worse we manage to sink to new levels of incompetence. Also Mick said he was happy with the first half so it just shows how far apart ours and his expectations!

As for where we go - whats left to try? Davies, Gleeson and er...thats it really. Have my tickets for Norwich but can't say I'm looking forward to it, but if this carries on its the last game for a while I'm afraid.

Oldgold Wolfcub
26-12-2007, 22:01
Molineux Mix is currently very $$$$. The standard of posters with enough of an IQ to make a balanced contribution about the football team has been reduced to an all time low. You never get a verdict thread without girly squabbling and as a whole the place is infested with circling vultures with no sense or reason. I would also like to point out that the one's who can't spell are normally the most guilty of talking absolute and utter $$$$$. Funny that.
I cant be bothered to take any more of it so the Wolves can can go and do an almighty one for all i care.
We apologize for being under your spell as you 'can can' around our absolute and utter $$$$$

Lou Pine
26-12-2007, 22:40
Haven't been today but what I heard on the radio sounded like more of the same. Only comment I have with regards this thread is that everyone isn't laughing at us because nobody (other than Wolves and some Albion fans) really cares that much. People laughed at Leeds last season when they were in freefall because of the 'dirty Leeds' reputation they'd acquired and the sheer speed of their fall from grace. Thinking that the rest of the country are sniggering smugly at our recent poor run of results is slightly OTT. A case of thinking we're bigger than we actually are.

astraltrader
26-12-2007, 22:49
i'm disappointed too, but my advice is keep the faith. Don't chuck in the towel just yet- the players need to keep putting a shift in and it will come right.


I am starting to worry about you Adrian! You come across with a neo-religious and well intentioned zeal, promising eventual deliverence using a simple currency of Faith!
Then I noticed your username ends with MONK !!
Then I noticed the total number of your posts was 666!!!

TBH if my avatar was not derived from an 120 y.o. Golden Dawn Kabbalistic protection -


I might be very worried indeed...

Bawtry Wolf
26-12-2007, 23:15
Well not a good performance but not as bad as Barnsley. Unfortunately it was very much like the performances before Xmas last season the only difference being that whereas last season we would some how keep our goal intact, thanks to Murry et al whilst score with our one or two efforts on target. We had no creativity at all, we were disjointed and played a pass and watch style of game. Bothroyd provided a couple of signs of inspiration and I can see him out on the left but unfortunatley his mucking about led (indirectly) to their first goal. After that we had very few chances and when they did present themselves we passed rather than shot (Olifinjana) or fired weakly wide (Keogh twice). Couldn't understand the substitution of Eastwood but I think it is symptomatic, we are playing as 11 individuals not as a team. I don't think a single area of the team is functioning well at the moment and the partnerships are just not there. Special mention to Edwards who I thought had a good game on his return and in his rightful position. As to sacking McCarthy, I think we need to be careful, this is his first truly bad run sice he became manager, we have tried chopping and changing for the last 15 years and it hasn't worked. But if Morgan decides he has had enough (and it is his decision) he needs to act quickly to give the new incumbent time to do something.

Finally, on our fans, we were embarrasing. The level of expectation we have is ridiculous and we were immediately on the players backs as soon as a stray pass was made. I would hate to work where they do as you would be rollocked for any little mistake you make with no ounce of praise. When the goals went in, rather than trying to lift the team like we used to, we simply became more nasty, and at the end we had loads of people singing your not fit to wear the shirt. Well you obviously have very short memory as last season and during the close season many were lauding this group of players as the team who were going to march us into the Premiership. Similarly many of you have forgotten the traumas of the mid 80s when we had many players who were not fit to even lace the boots of this team let only wear the shirt. Our attitude and general behaviour works against the team and makes us a laughing stock, we have a young team who will lose form as they learn, we have to grow with them. Of course if you are not willing to support your team through thick and thin then there are plenty of other teams you can support, but unless you choose to support two teams in the North West or two teams in London you may find the glory you are looking for a little thin on the ground.

I expect to get loads of abuse for this post but I am extremely p***** off with the team and with our fans. I can get over the performance of the team as I have seen worse runs and performances but is the fans that are making the most dissapointed. We are supposed to support through thick and thin rather than just the good times.

Ogerp
26-12-2007, 23:18
MM is really stuck for Norwich. Stick or Twist?

BUST?

John
26-12-2007, 23:19
We are supposed to support through thick and thin rather than just the good times.
Says who?

Bawtry Wolf
26-12-2007, 23:24
Says who?
Well you certainly sum up most of the fans who went today you numpty, I can't be bothered to give you a lesson in supporting a football club as it seems to be beyond your comprehension.

John
26-12-2007, 23:29
Well you certainly sum up most of the fans who went today you numpty, I can't be bothered to give you a lesson in supporting a football club as it seems to be beyond your comprehension.
You need help don't you?
Do you hear voices?

Oldgold Wolfcub
26-12-2007, 23:36
You need help don't you?
Do you hear voices?
These are usually the posts at the beginning of the commentary thread as we try to log in to Wolves World.:cool:

Papper
27-12-2007, 00:16
We apologize for being under your spell as you 'can can' around our absolute and utter $$$$$

Apology accepted.

Oldgold Wolfcub
27-12-2007, 00:28
Apology accepted.
I am glad about that but still brassed off with the spellcheck people who could have saved me all this embarrassment in the first place by correcting me and I could have said McAllister in the first place. Its like our manager you just cant get decent staff these days.

Papper
27-12-2007, 00:33
I am glad about that but still brassed off with the spellcheck people who could have saved me all this embarrassment in the first place by correcting me and I could have said McAllister in the first place. Its like our manager you just cant get decent staff these days. You've learnt how to spell McAllister today so that's progress. A couple more away games and you might move up from the remedial class. Now stop being impudent and go back and play nicely with the other boys.

Wolv3nsam
27-12-2007, 00:40
I'm in a bad mood and incredibly depressed, still waiting for this silver lining.

10 points off top spot but at the same time 10 points off of the relegation zone..

Manitoba Wolf
27-12-2007, 00:41
It's all SJH's fault isn't it? At least that's who the idiots liked to blame the last few years. It's way more depressing listening to the faint hearted boo, whine and complain than having Wolves on this winless streak.
Does every club have this amount of "I demand a manager change at the first sign of trouble?"

Oldgold Wolfcub
27-12-2007, 01:07
You've learnt how to spell McAllister today so that's progress. A couple more away games and you might move up from the remedial class. Now stop being impudent and go back and play nicely with the other boys.
And I have you to thank for that today. Unfortunately my alzheimers will probably mean that we have to go through the whole thing again tomorrow. Anyway I am no longer impudent since I have been taking the viagra which those other little boys sold me for my pension money. I know you would probably not stand for that.

Neptune
27-12-2007, 05:59
We are supposed to support through thick and thin rather than just the good times.

Says who?

So if you don't support us when times are bad doesn't that mean you are not a supporter?

If you only support us when times are good doesn't that make you a glory hunter? If I were you, I would switch to Arsenal, I find them much more entertaining than the other options.

Papper is right, Molineux Mix seems full of nothing but vultures...

Fifty posts in and only 2 freaking verdicts...thanks to Willy Bright, Bawtry. The verdicts will only be depressing anyway, I'm glad there aren't more...goodnight

reanswolf
27-12-2007, 07:39
I was embarrassed by both the quality of play v leicester and by the vultures on the terraces.

very good post Bawtry. I knew the enjoyment of last season wouldnt last for long.

MM obviously has to sort this out, but in the meantime he and the players could do with a little more support, irrespective of the failings at present. If we dont, he and th epress will only blame things on our fickle fans again - and sadly we have some of the most girly, fickle fans you could ever wish to have (as well as some great fans I hasten to add).

Gratters
27-12-2007, 07:52
It's all SJH's fault isn't it? At least that's who the idiots liked to blame the last few years. It's way more depressing listening to the faint hearted boo, whine and complain than having Wolves on this winless streak.
Does every club have this amount of "I demand a manager change at the first sign of trouble?"

First sign ? Have you only just started watching us ? We haven't looked good in a SINGLE game ! We have been very lucky so far and our position is totally false

Woburn Wolf
27-12-2007, 07:59
Sorry mate, you've given me a rare smile on another grim day. You make some valid points above and right now I'm still praying this is just one hell of a blip in form - though it looks to me like our confidence is shot and we just can't play as a team without Kightly out there.

I've watched us for over 20 years and countless managers, and by and large chopping and changing and throwing money at the problem hasn't worked - we're still where we were 20 years ago after all. That's why I hope we can turn this around. I know I'll get drowned out in the "sack MM" rants, but hey, whatever, we all want success for the club we love, we just don't all agree about the best way to achieve it.

And seriously, thanks for calling me a 16 year old. Made my day! :D



I have been calling for Mick's head for a long time now but WELL SAID, everyone on this forum should want success for Wolves and then it's all about opinions as to how best to achieve it.

Woburn Wolf
27-12-2007, 08:08
Remind me of what he had won at Aberdeen and what Mick's won to compare?
Indeed, I lived in Aberdeen when Fergie was manager and it wasn't just that he had built a team out of nothing to win the European Cup Winners Cup, and was making Rangers and Celtic look up big time, he also had a real winners demeanour about him whenever he was interviewed. MU knew what they were getting when they took him on just like Moxey should have done when we signed Super Mick. I was totallt gutted at the time he was appointed manager (I wanted Ince) and despite him getting the team to over-perform last season my original thoughts about him have since been totally vindicated.

N. Herts Wolf
27-12-2007, 08:29
I was totallt gutted at the time he was appointed manager (I wanted Ince)

If, God forbid, Ince is ever appointed manager of Wolves, I'm going to remind you how much you wanted him when he ****s it up.

Taffywolf
27-12-2007, 08:57
If, God forbid, Ince is ever appointed manager of Wolves, I'm going to remind you how much you wanted him when he ****s it up.

And if he does well would you say "I was wrong"?

N. Herts Wolf
27-12-2007, 09:01
And if he does well would you say "I was wrong"?

Yes. If he were to do very well, I would say it with unmitigated joy, unlike some of the graceless $$$$$$s on here who would be gutted if we did well if it meant Mick kept his job.

Oldgold Wolfcub
27-12-2007, 09:44
Indeed, I lived in Aberdeen when Fergie was manager and it wasn't just that he had built a team out of nothing to win the European Cup Winners Cup, and was making Rangers and Celtic look up big time, he also had a real winners demeanour about him whenever he was interviewed. MU knew what they were getting when they took him
This is the point about McCarthy who sends shivers down me when I hear him talk and its like a loser. I couldn't believe him when at Sunderland and they were struggling and he was actually saying he had not got a clue what to do. Generally it is rare for a player to come out in open rebellion against a manager when he is still in the job but I am afraid that Keane really exposed McCarthy for what he was.
MM is the same here. For those who think that any of us criticising him are reacting to a sudden decline it is looking like the blip in form was when we played well.

Woburn Wolf
27-12-2007, 10:19
If, God forbid, Ince is ever appointed manager of Wolves, I'm going to remind you how much you wanted him when he ****s it up.
Fair enough and I will remind you when he gets us promoted and then takes us on from there.

N. Herts Wolf
27-12-2007, 10:27
Fair enough and I will remind you when he gets us promoted and then takes us on from there.

Deal.

Essex Wolf
27-12-2007, 10:27
Having stuggled to get the day off all I can say is I really wish I hadn't bothered.

Rubbish football played by players with no idea and who looked lost.

McCarthy has shown himself to be a bit of a one trick pony when it comes to management and when a manager cannot motivate a team he has all but put together himself there is something very very wrong.

Cannot think of one positive from a Wolves POV but I expect the dull, dreary dour one to find some.

Ginger Chimp
27-12-2007, 11:07
Unfortunately this approach would take a LOT of time, something which most Wolves fans will probably never give to any manager.



Wolves fans don't sack managers. If Morgan's as astute as he seems to be (you don't get to be worth £500m by being a shrinking violet) and he wants to go down that route then the supporters won't influence his management decisions.

We may pay our money but we've never appointed or sacked anyone at the club. As a group we have a large voice but it's very quiet.

dr cool
27-12-2007, 12:05
Wolves fans don't sack managers. If Morgan's as astute as he seems to be (you don't get to be worth £500m by being a shrinking violet) and he wants to go down that route then the supporters won't influence his management decisions.

We may pay our money but we've never appointed or sacked anyone at the club. As a group we have a large voice but it's very quiet.

turner after ipswich, jones after gills...

glasgowwolf
27-12-2007, 12:12
It's just a pity the verdict thread has turned into a petty squable thread.

To those that complain about bad grammer, and refuse to take someone's post seriously because the spelling is dodgy, or the punctuation is not quite what it should be. Get a grip it's a forum for fans of Wolves, not a forum on the English Language.
Being more articulate than another poster does not make you right or wrong, it makes you better at Grammer than him, no doubt he has skills that you lack.

As for the way we are playing, we are having a poor spell, every manager has one, every manager in Wolves history had one, some deserved sacking others did not.

We have sacked every manager since we got in the division as soon as they had a bad spell. The fact is it has not worked we are still in this division so I am torn betwen wanting him out because I hate Wolves losing and I hate Wolves showing no quality and just lumping balls long, and thinking he deserves more time to turn this round.

I had reservations after the Sheff Wed game last year, when I asked about the style of play on here and was shouted down.

My big, big reservation with McCarthy is his style of play. Long Ball will not get very far, I said when Watford were running away with this division 2 seasons ago that long ball would fail miserably in the prem and it did.

Allardyce was wrongly accused of being a long ball man. Anyone who watched Bolton under him could see that he mixed it up right.

If I saw the team trying to play a better style I would be more confident in keeping the manager, however all I see is hoof it football, when we play the ball on the floor ALA Bristol City first 25 mins, Leicester second half we are one of the best teams in this division.

The question has to be asked is the long ball coming from the Manager or the players?

Every manager Wolves have had put square pegs in round holes, does every manager, I don't know.... I never know what other players best positions are, I do know what I consider our players best positions are, and who are the better players at that position, our manager seems to play players out of position.

I was against Hoddle being sacked because I wanted a period of stability, I still want that stability. McCarthy should be given next season as well as this, but there needs to be an improvement in style of play, and performances.

EasternWolf
27-12-2007, 12:50
Glasgow, I think you have it about right. My only difference is that I would like another manager to be given a period of stability because I dont think the present one has the ability to get these average/good players that we have to play to the level of their own ability. Someone else might be able to do it - yes maybe Ince who seems to be doing ok but there are others out there. A young and hungry manager perhaps, who isnt devisive, who doesnt have favourites, who doesn't make public statements criticising players, who sees the value in building a team - good or bad - and then modifying it over time. A manager who recognises the importance of the supporters and their contributions and who will answer the questions they ask.

I agree about the issues related to grammar - what does it matter if some of us dont have the time to sit and correct our theses, or the natural ability to get it right first time. We all support WWFC.

I think Bawtry Wolfs contribution above is first class too.

As for the performances - surely now is the time to have some faith in players like Gobern, Little, Davies, Gleeson and Dan Jones. They have all played well enough before. Mulgrew as well. If McCarthy is not willing to try these players then all this playing for the shirt rhetoric is just nonsense

I would like to see Mulgrew in at left back on Saturday, Davies in for Olofinjana, Gobern on the right and Jarvis on the left. Maybe Bothroyd and Eastwood up front with instructions that give us a chance of scoring goals.

What is the worst that could happen? .. we could lose.

Ginger Chimp
27-12-2007, 13:08
turner after ipswich, jones after gills...
Wolves fans did not sack these managers. If you think we have enough sway to dictate the policy of the board you are sorely mistaken (imo). The decision was taken because it was believed to be the right decisionat the time NOT because the South Bank requested it.

Papper
27-12-2007, 13:15
I agree about the issues related to grammar - what does it matter if some of us dont have the time to sit and correct our theses, or the natural ability to get it right first time. We all support WWFC.

.

My grammar is a bad as the next man's and quick typing leads to mistakes ! BUT i do feel there is a direct correlation between bad spelling, text speak and idiocy. WWFC is no excuse for bad spellin innit ..







I am joking btw

JR's Boots
27-12-2007, 15:09
Glasgow

You've summed up my feelings as well. I'm feeling utterly depressed at the stupid, bovine football we play and the fact in a drossy league we can't create chances and therefore score any goals. Teams that don't score generally get relegated and another month like this one could see us down amongst the dead men struggling to stay out the bottom 3.

McCarthy picked the team that near enough most of us would have gone for. It was positive and balanced and yet we were dire. We've stopped playing football and lost all belief. Only decent coaching and better results can stop this rot.

The bad run, sack-em route has been tried and tested to death but we can't go on watching this stuff for much longer. Ultimately it's Morgan's call but if he sticks then Mick needs help with money and a stronger backroom staff. If Morgan twists then I hope he goes for Ince and quickly.

leedswolf
27-12-2007, 15:49
turner after ipswich

Chelsea in the cup wasn't it?

Stewarton Wolf
27-12-2007, 17:39
Chelsea in the cup wasn't it?

Portsmouth Away in the midweek following the Chelsea Cup game, went to both. Turner was sacked on the coach home by Jonathan Hayward.

dr cool
27-12-2007, 17:43
Portsmouth Away in the midweek following the Chelsea Cup game, went to both. Turner was sacked on the coach home by Jonathan Hayward.

yes you are right, it should have been after ipswich !!

Stewarton Wolf
27-12-2007, 17:45
yes you are right, it should have been after ipswich !!
Should of been the night of the Grimsby game when Hayward stood on the southbank

HazelGroveWolf
27-12-2007, 18:35
Quick note: Didn't we have a $$$$ December 2002 ?

Stewarton Wolf
27-12-2007, 22:02
Quick note: Didn't we have a $$$$ December 2002 ?

We were still in a better position points wise after 24 games in 2002.


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