Transfers from Wolves: 1946/7-to-2006/07.

[astraltrader]

Merry Christmas to you all. Hope you have all had an enjoyable day...

Whilst trawling about the`net I came across this fascinating and comprehensive list of all transfers from Wolves since World War 2. Really interesting statistics - along with the length of time served at the club as well as the number of appearances made and goals scored. A link at the bottom of the table will take you to the same information for any other club. All great stuff - I have never seen this site before, but apologies if you have seen it before...


http://www.neilbrown.newcastlefans.com/wolves/wolves.htm




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[Hatch End Wolf]

Thanks Astral. Lots of memories in that list. I'll have a good long look tomorrow. Probably be more fun than going to Hell...er ...Hull on Boxing |day!

[Devonwolf]

Great site, makes interesting reading

[Adrian_Monk]

i have but you don't need to apologise.

some utter $$$$e in that list, bringing back some terrible memories.

[astraltrader]

Thanks HEW and DW - it definitely helped to fill a few gaps in the memory...

[Stewarton Wolf]

Seem to be few gaps, Jason Roberts for example, although he didn't play a game for us. Great find though..

[Hatch End Wolf]

At the time I thought not giving Jason Roberts a game was a big mistake. Who was the manager who let him go?

[De Wolfs Mullet]

I couldn't help but notice carl cort's goal ratio for us, 31 goals in 94 appearences - 1 in 3. If only he could have stayed free of injury....

[Hatch End Wolf]

and Cort played on the right wing most of the time!

[Stewarton Wolf]

At the time I thought not giving Jason Roberts a game was a big mistake. Who was the manager who let him go?

Signed him and let him go - McGhee

[astraltrader]

Seem to be few gaps, Jason Roberts for example, although he didn't play a game for us. Great find though..

Thanks Stewarton - appreciated. BTW - I owe you an apology - I got my wires crossed on another thread. Someone on a different thread was banging on that only a STH`s opinion had any merit and for some inane reason I thought it was you.

I therefore unreservedly make a genuine and fulsome apology, sir!

[Hatch End Wolf]

So Mark McGhee bought in £1M Corica and let Jason Roberts go without giving him chance. And he's still a football manager!

[northnorfolkwolf]

TY Astraltrader - great site! Spent 1 hour on it and only at the Ks, so many memories! Saw the name of our new fitness coach and see in 4 seasons he played 21 games! Looked up other famous crocks - Ndah, Geoff Thomas and Masters - they totalled 14 years at Wolves and played 145 matches = just over 3 seasons! I hope Mark Davies and Gobern do not read this !!!!!

[astraltrader]

-A pleasure NNW - have to say you have uncovered one of the great unsung peices of footballing irony...still smiling about it now!

[GoldenHorseshoe]

There are some great stories there, and a few sad ones.

[northnorfolkwolf]

Still looking! What a great (sad?) way to end Xmas day! We were saying on here recently about our present lack of foreign players. When you look at the stats from Al Jaber to Van der Laan it is hard to spot a genuine success in our dealings in the foreign market. Has there been one!?

[northnorfolkwolf]

When you look at the goals return of the olden greats it makes your heart weep when we struggle to score a goal a game!

[The Bear]

Doesn't have Frankovski.

[GoldenHorseshoe]

Roy Swinbourne, Jimmy Murray?
Hancocks for a winger (didn't see him play but think he took the penalties)

[Adrian_Monk]

to think, if we'd signed jim melrose, most of those names might not be on there. Who was bob macdonald? I really don't remember him as a full back....remember stoutt, barnes, bellamy, venus, humphrey but not macdonald...?

[gornal wolf]

Alan ainscow was a favourite of mine.Remember him scoring a screamer against huddersfield last day of the season.Think that was the last time waterloo rd stand was open.

[astraltrader]

When you look at the goals return of the olden greats it makes your heart weep when we struggle to score a goal a game!

Absolutely NNW we are currently letting down very badly our great record as a club that has always stood for maximum goals return as this table clearly shows...




http://www.rsssf.com/tablese/engprof-alltime.html


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[Stewarton Wolf]

Thanks Stewarton - appreciated. BTW - I owe you an apology - I got my wires crossed on another thread. Someone on a different thread was banging on that only a STH`s opinion had any merit and for some inane reason I thought it was you.

I therefore unreservedly make a genuine and fulsome apology, sir!

Cool - its only a bit of fun...

[SL2]

This is top and was looking at Bobby Gould and saw how he had a better strike rate for us than he did for sandwell town it would be the icing on the cake to see the transfer fees but I'm not moaning

great find

[kennyB]

Interesting site although some discrepancies. Cyril Sidlow, for example, Welsh international GK transferred to Liverpool 1946-47 and they won the league that season beating Wolves 2-1 last game of the season when we only needed a draw at home to win the league for the first time. This after we had beaten them 5-1 at Anfield. Some players positions are incorrectly given too, Cliff Durandt was not a winger, played inside forward alongside Ted Farmer mostly. Anyone remember that F.A youth cup comeback from 5-1 down in the first leg against Chelsea? Won the 2nd leg 6-1, 4 for Farmer and 2 for Durandt. Jimmy Greaves played for Chelsea. 15,000 plus at the Mol that night if I remember correctly.

[cooper_J]

That makes interesting reading - I was really surprised that Chris Marsden only played 8 games for us. I was only about 13 when he was here but I remember being gutted when we sold him, as I really rated him.

On the flip side, I can't believe that Steve Sedgley played over 100 games for the club. I can't rememeber him having a good game - he was bloody useless and to think Ipswich got Veno and money! Bloody McGhee.

As for Roberts, I still struggle to get my head around that. Especially after how good he was when we sent him on loan to Torquay. Bloody McGhee.

(I'm noticing a pattern - I won't go on to Freedman, Claridge, Kalac, Corica, Slater, Gilkes....we'll be here all day)

[Adrian_Monk]

marsden did his cruciate at the mol, remember being at the game. He'd been absolutely outstanding in every game up until then and looked to have the potential to be one of our most gifted players in years. After his injury though some unsavoury rumours started to surface and i don't think he played for the first team again even when fully fit.

[Still Proud]

John Burridge - 20 clubs!!!

[Hatch End Wolf]

Most of the players who left the club didn't go on to "better things". There are, of course exceptions, like Robbie Keane and Alan Sunderland, but generally it was down and out for most.

[astraltrader]

Most of the players who left the club didn't go on to "better things". There are, of course exceptions, like Robbie Keane and Alan Sunderland, but generally it was down and out for most.

Generally I agree and most of the exceptions have been in fact youths...

[Adrian_Monk]

dean richards went on to command an £8m fee, andy gray had great success after leaving us, jim mcalliog won the fa cup after he left, willie carr went on to gain worldwide notoriety with that free kick, froggatt got an england call up, kenny miller won a league title, henri camara managed to eventually stave off relegation, jason roberts has gone on to have a decent premiership career, collymore, peter withe, etc

[astraltrader]

I think if you read carefully it was stated "generally". Secondly over half of the 9 or 10 you have managed to find can safely be said to have had the best part of their career behind them. I do conceed that your sterling efforts in the art of nit-picking has produced the fine exception of Willie Carr. I am sure that any footballer of merit would exchange a league or cup winners medal for the donkey-kick acclaim - well spotted...

[Adrian_Monk]

i didn't even mention kalac who went on to play for ac milan or naylor who has played in the champions league, or ingimarsson who plays premiership football every weekend. There are probably dozens more 'exceptions', i don't think it's as cut and dried as you make out. I admit that generally you're probably right though: mcgarrys period brought players that cared about the club and stayed for the best part of their careers, even barnwells tenure to some extent was the same. The turnover of players was incredible during the dark days, notably chapmans spell, almost all of whom ended up in pub football or a different profession- they contribute an unhealthy percentage of players on that list. Then turner, taylor, jones and mcghee bought players at the end of their careers. Some on here seem to think we destroy peoples careers but i can't agree with such nonsense, we just buy a load of $$$$e.

[Florida Wolfey]

Very interesting list....I know times were different but Dennis Westcott must have been some player.

[astraltrader]

He was indeed FW - without doubt his goals helped to launch the glory years - sadly the meagre total of just over 100 games played for the Wolves would have been far far higher but for the second world war. I have read elsewhere that if one does count the war games that he played for the club his figures would come out at around 215 scored in as many games played...

[Hatch End Wolf]

That Adrian bloke is a real fun person!

[astraltrader]

-With you on that HEW !

[MK Panther]

Generally I agree and most of the exceptions have been in fact youths...

I think it is fair to say that Wolverhampton Wanderers have never really stuck their neck out in the transfer market and the majority of the players we have had have never achieved much after leaving us. The current crop falls into the same category.

[astraltrader]

Sadly that is about right. Will the January window bring more of the same??

[Florida Wolfey]

I think it is fair to say that Wolverhampton Wanderers have never really stuck their neck out in the transfer market and the majority of the players we have had have never achieved much after leaving us.

Andy Gray :rolleyes:

[astraltrader]

Good call - but he did say "majority!"

[Adrian_Monk]

andy gray had great success after leaving us

I already mentioned Gray, Florida, only to be shot down. :(

[astraltrader]

Not shot down Mr Monk - just steered toward the meanings of "generalisation", "generally" or "majority". In those cases the introduction or reference to an exception or a minority becomes tediously like nit-picking!
No offence meant. Without wish to seem patronising your posts are often of interest. Finally - glad to see you have moved away from the number of the Beast - as I have mentioned elsewhere with a user name ending with Monk, I was begining to get worried...

[As High as a Kightly]

Who was Robbie Slater?

[astraltrader]

Who was Robbie Slater?

Robbie Slater was an Aussie International midfielder. He was once a reasonably talented player whose career in the UK probably reached a highlight in 1994 when at the age of 30 he helped Blackburn Rovers win the Prem...
Unfortunately we signed him in I think 1998 when at almost 35 his legs and skills had gone.
We paid £100K for his services and he managed a mere handful of games before returning to Oz...

[Hatch End Wolf]

Ah, Robbie Slater, completely knackered when we signed him......one of Magoo's inspired signings I think.

[astraltrader]

I thought it was one of Colin Lee`s even less inspired signings but you could be right. 1998 was definitely the year that we changed managers from Magoo to the Clown but can`t be sure which twonk was responsible...

[leedswolf]

McGhee signed Slater.

[astraltrader]

Many thanks for clearing that up...

[leedswolf]

My pleasure.....

Slater was signed just before the transfer deadline in March '98 from Soton for £100k. That same week we also recruited Neil Emblen from Palace and David Connolly on loan from Feyenoord and Jason Roberts departed Wolves and went to Bristol City ..........

............... and I nearly forgot that we signed Steve Claridge from Leicester for £325k as well..................

[astraltrader]

Not the best of months for the club then...

[leedswolf]

Yep, those signings helped us to cement 9th place ...............

[Zico]

Do any of our older posters remember much about Hugh Curran? What was his style of play like? My first games was in 1971. I don't remember if I saw him play or not so unfortunately I don't remember anything about him as a player. However his goal scoring record stands out by a mile, bagging 40 goals in 82 appearances between 1968 and 1972. That's a goal every other game. He must have been quality but 82 appearances over over 5 seasons suggest he was either injured or out of favour.

[Florida Wolfey]

Do any of our older posters remember much about Hugh Curran? What was his style of play like? My first games was in 1971. I don't remember if I saw him play or not so unfortunately I don't remember anything about him as a player. However his goal scoring record stands out by a mile, bagging 40 goals in 82 appearances between 1968 and 1972. That's a goal every other game. He must have been quality but 82 appearances over over 5 seasons suggest he was either injured or out of favour.

Hugh Curran was my favourite player until JR came along and effectively killed his Wolves career. His record was excellent but his face never seemed to fit with McGarry. He came in from Norwich in 68-69 when Alun Evans left for Liverpool and believe it or not he top scored for us in the little remembered American Championship that we won that same season. In 69-70 he was our top scorer with 23 goals with Dougan being the next best with 10.

In 70-71 he was second top scorer with 20 goals to Gould's 24 and 71-72 saw him leave as the Dougan / Richards partnership started to blossom. In all he played 90 games scoring 47 goals and Oxford became my second favourite team for a short while when he went there.

[leedswolf]

If his face (he was bloody ugly though http://www.footybits.co.uk/popup_image.php?pID=6369&osCsid=5b0a87748a3c13ae647b741db0b0fea4) didn't fit with McGarry how come he made 80 appearances in his 2 full seasons at the club ................

[Zico]

Hugh Curran was my favourite player until JR came along and effectively killed his Wolves career. His record was excellent but his face never seemed to fit with McGarry. He came in from Norwich in 68-69 when Alun Evans left for Liverpool and believe it or not he top scored for us in the little remembered American Championship that we won that same season. In 69-70 he was our top scorer with 23 goals with Dougan being the next best with 10.

In 70-71 he was second top scorer with 20 goals to Gould's 24 and 71-72 saw him leave as the Dougan / Richards partnership started to blossom. In all he played 90 games scoring 47 goals and Oxford became my second favourite team for a short while when he went there.

Cheers Florida.