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Swansea valley wolf
13-11-2007, 20:12
I was thinking who we could try to bring in January to score goals to get us up and one name springs to my mind Rob Earnshaw now at Derby.
Proven goal scorer at this level, pacy and not getting games at Derby should be available at right price for me around 3.5 million with the new Morgan money should be within reach if he is serious about getting us up.
What's everybodies thoughts, there will be more alternatives people will throw forward.
Deutsch Wolf
13-11-2007, 20:16
We don't need a striker. A creative midfielder to replace Olofinjana (permanently, not just while he's at the ANC) would be nice.
We Do Not Need A Striker !
Frankowski Ring A Bell !
Problem is this also relates to the 'present squad in the Premier post'.
Earnshaw may well score goals in this league but as proved he can't for Derby in the Prem, therefore a waste of £3.5 million which will be sorely needed when we get promoted.
Swansea valley wolf
13-11-2007, 20:29
Answer to our midfield problem I would hope by Jan when Oli goes is Mark Davies, this kid has shown he is quality, also would hope we keep Gibson for season from Man Utd
Did Earnshaw not score goals in Prem for s*** when he was there a few seasons ago?
The Bear
13-11-2007, 20:31
Earnshaw is a player who doesn't work very hard for the team but can score goals.
Evolution Wolf
13-11-2007, 20:36
I was thinking who we could try to bring in January to score goals to get us up and one name springs to my mind Rob Earnshaw now at Derby.
Proven goal scorer at this level, pacy and not getting games at Derby should be available at right price for me around 3.5 million with the new Morgan money should be within reach if he is serious about getting us up.
What's everybodies thoughts, there will be more alternatives people will throw forward.
so is Elliot and Eastwood and i might be wrong about this bit but doesnt he have a nag of getting injured.
i any case we have enough strikers and 2 are begining to gel and are scaring defences
a creative midfielder/ attacking midfielder would help
we love jez moxey
13-11-2007, 21:13
olofinjana dominates most games. Ok he goes missing from time to time, but that has a lot to do with the huge gap between our attack and defence and with henry sitting deep he is very isolated. If our defence was capable of looking after itself we would see the best of george. If you think we are capable of attracting better then you are talking out of your arse.
Problem is this also relates to the 'present squad in the Premier post'.
Earnshaw may well score goals in this league but as proved he can't for Derby in the Prem, therefore a waste of £3.5 million which will be sorely needed when we get promoted.
Earnshaw scored 14 or 15 for albion when they were up there.. not a bad return IMO for a struggling side.
Hasnt really been playing much for derby and to be fair Derby are probably the worst side in the prem for a long time.
Derby have been clever in the fact that when they come down they will have 3 20 goal a season forwards who no one in the prem will want to buy.
£3.5m is nothing to a promoted side going up to the prem anymore since the new TV deal.. all of about 6 weeks worth of TV money.
Earnshaw is bone idle git with goofy teeth and his goal celebrations are ####.
thekentwolf
13-11-2007, 22:54
We dont need a striker. Although David Nugent (we can all dream) would be nice, not getting a game at Portsmouth, quality player.
Our biggest problem come January will be filling Olofinjana's boots. He has been awesome for 18 months now, everyone has there own views but I can not understand the stick he gets. He will be missed in January.
olofinjana dominates most games. Ok he goes missing from time to time, but that has a lot to do with the huge gap between our attack and defence and with henry sitting deep he is very isolated. If our defence was capable of looking after itself we would see the best of george. If you think we are capable of attracting better then you are talking out of your arse.
That's rubbish. I don't know why Olofinjana has been put on a pedestal by so many. He doesn't dominate most games and Henry sitting deep and isolating Olofinjana is garbage.
Vio Ganea
14-11-2007, 11:11
Oh joy, another WE NEED A STRIKER THREAD!!!!!!!! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
EasternWolf
14-11-2007, 11:25
Maybe ... with 5 strikers (Ward is a striker) in contention for the first team .. and all said to be good quality, at least for the Championship, .. and none of them particularly setting the world alight yet ... we do need a specialist striker coach (please not Bully) to be signed in January .. or sooner.
We produce quality keepers and have a good goalkeeping coach .. so would a striker coach improve things?
Essex Wolf
14-11-2007, 11:27
Wolves have enough strikers on their books for the 1st team squad alone. What's needed is a pairing that work well with each other. The amouint of chances being created just need to have a few more taken.
Big Mack
14-11-2007, 11:32
We shouldn't be spending any more money on strikers. We need our coaching staff to mould the players we have into an effective unit which can attack at pace and the strikers to be in the box to provide the end product. We need a work ethic I agree, but there comes a time when our strikers need to let the midfield and defence take over and Freddie, Jay, Elliott etc ready themselves to provide outlets for our next attack.
Gold Umbro
14-11-2007, 12:25
I don't believe we need any more strikers but the rumour I have been told by two different Coventry fans is that the 'Maltese Dickov' is on the way to Wolves in January for £2m.
Please don't shoot the messenger - my reaction to the news was 'politely go away' (avoids swear filter) but they insisted 'twas a done deal.
Personally I would have thought MM would bring in a targetman if he does buy a frontman.
we love jez moxey
14-11-2007, 12:30
That's rubbish. I don't know why Olofinjana has been put on a pedestal by so many. He doesn't dominate most games and Henry sitting deep and isolating Olofinjana is garbage.
that's rubbish??? who do you think we can attract thats better then?? at this level, olo is as good as it gets. You give your opinions and I give mine,but at least I give reasons to why I came to conclusion. 'That's rubbish' is a real balanced and intelligent arguament. Give yourself a clap.
Flying Fish
14-11-2007, 12:37
I really think Mark Davis could be the answer to some of our problems the strikers are having scoring. Unfortunately this is only based on the lack of service it sounds like they get currently. Has he really been injured this long?
Isn't Mark Davies only 3 foot 5? Is he going to win headers? Will he be able to play with Henry?
I think Seyi and Davies could work but not sure about the others.
Welsh Y'am Y'am
14-11-2007, 13:35
Henry and Davies would work better than Henry and Olofinjana in my opinon - Davies is a far more complete midfielder than Olofinjana (ie he can pass and tackle with ease) and is far more willing to run at players from midfield, which Seyi doesn't do.
Wolv3nsam
14-11-2007, 16:32
We dont need a striker. Although David Nugent (we can all dream) would be nice, not getting a game at Portsmouth, quality player.
Am I the only one who thinks this lad is terribly overrated?
Woburn Wolf
14-11-2007, 16:34
Henry and Davies would work better than Henry and Olofinjana in my opinon - Davies is a far more complete midfielder than Olofinjana (ie he can pass and tackle with ease) and is far more willing to run at players from midfield, which Seyi doesn't do.
I agree but unless the problems that existed when he was fit last season have been resolved, MM won't start him.
Am I the only one who thinks this lad is terribly overrated?
NO your not the only one. Half of Porstmouth think he's crap but they said that last year about Benjani.
Woburn Wolf
14-11-2007, 16:37
Perhaps we could trade Ward or Elliott for a striker (Billy Sharp?) and use some of Morgan's money elsewhere.
Wolv3nsam
14-11-2007, 16:39
I don't believe we need any more strikers but the rumour I have been told by two different Coventry fans is that the 'Maltese Dickov' is on the way to Wolves in January for £2m.
Please don't shoot the messenger - my reaction to the news was 'politely go away' (avoids swear filter) but they insisted 'twas a done deal.
Personally I would have thought MM would bring in a targetman if he does buy a frontman.
I wouldn't want Mifsud down here because of his diving antics and that blatant elbow down here which went unnoticed., but at the same time he has scored 7 goals this season which isn't bad at all.
I'm in the same boat as you though GU, I thought if we were to improve our striking department it'd be done by introducing a tall target man.
Perhaps we could trade Ward or Elliott for a striker (Billy Sharp?) and use some of Morgan's money elsewhere.
How can you write of Elliot?
I think he's going to be our best striker.
Wolv3nsam
14-11-2007, 16:49
I'd rather have Elliot who has scored 23 goals at this level over the space of 2 seasons than Billy Sharp who has scored 0.
Where have these 23 goals come from? They certainly don't exist on any record I've seen.
He had, after all, only scored 24 goals in his entire career (since 2003) when he joined Wolves.
Wolv3nsam
14-11-2007, 16:56
Where have these 23 goals come from? They certainly don't exist on any record I've seen.
He had, after all, only scored 24 goals in his entire career (since 2003) when he joined Wolves.
15 goals for Sunderland in 2004-05
5 goals for Sunderland in 2006-07
2 goals for us this season.
A slight miscalculation, 22 goals in total at Championship level.
wolfie smith
14-11-2007, 19:28
if its a striker we need why not a cheeky bid for shola ameobi? on the fringe at newcastle, young, not great but not bad, could definately hold the ball up. earnshaw would be ok but not at £3.5m
Swansea valley wolf
14-11-2007, 20:12
The question is what sort of transfer funds will Mick get come January.
Morgan seems serious about getting us promoted this season if his plans in express & star Saturday on ground development are true.
We defo need to spend some serious money on team strengthning if we are to be promoted ans stand a chance of staying up. 3 million plus transfer fees on a striker is not big money in comparisson to the riches of promotion, will Mick have this sort of money to spend? Time will tell
Earnshaw was just my opinion for a goal scorer others will have other ideas, I agree re midfield play maker needed.
Woburn Wolf
14-11-2007, 20:52
How can you write of Elliot?
I think he's going to be our best striker.
I don't agree with you but even if I did, he ain't gonna score many goals from the treatment room.
I don't agree with you but even if I did, he ain't gonna score many goals from the treatment room.
He's pulled his hamstring, that doesn't make him a crock for life. He had a bad time last year and was unlucky with injury but that doesn't make him a liability. People are writing the chap off before he's been given a chance. Look at David Dunn for B'Ham and now for the Blackburn.
We're going to need him this year and I'm sure he'll produce.
goldfish
15-11-2007, 11:55
Here's an interesting one from leftfield. I've got a friend who supports FC United Manchester and this is what he says:
"In the summer, Manchester United released Aaron Burns, despite him being the leading scorer in the reserves. Cardiff picked him up on trial, and were set to sign him until they went instead for Robbie Fowler and JF Hasselbaink.
Due to Cardiff owning his registration, and Burns having played summer football in Iceland to keep fit, he can't sign for another club until January. No one knows why, but no one wants to be the latest club to get $$$$ed over by the FA in an Altrincham/Wimbledon/but not West Ham kind of way.
All of which is good news for FC United, as he's signed on for a few months, and scored two goals on his debut. Wherever he turns up in January should count their lucky $$$$ing stars Cardiff went for two fat, old strikers, as Burns looks mint. "
He's now scored 8 in 6 for them and is being watched by Huddersfield among others. Could be worth a punt?
Eastwood isnt proven at this level at all. One season in this league, he scored a decent amount of goals for southend. That doesnt mean he is proven at this level. That would be a striker who has done it for a few seasons, not one.
Welford Wolf
15-11-2007, 12:50
Leroy Lita has scored at both levels, is young plays for under 21's and not getting a regular start at Reading.....
How do we know Mick isn't still trying to offload Jay or one of the others, after all quite a few have also gone out the door since he's been here
Leroy Lita has scored at both levels, is young plays for under 21's and not getting a regular start at Reading.....
How do we know Mick isn't still trying to offload Jay or one of the others, after all quite a few have also gone out the door since he's been here
Lita would be class for us.
He's a lot better than any of our players IMO.
We will see a big difference once Mark Davies is back fit and in the squad imo. He has goals and flare in him and can do what no other English center midfielder can do imo since Gazza and thats beat a man with skill from the middle of the park.
I also feel this is why England struggle, theres only Joe Cole in the whole squad who can beat a man with skill.
Flitwick Wolf
15-11-2007, 15:50
Eastwood isnt proven at this level at all. One season in this league, he scored a decent amount of goals for southend. That doesnt mean he is proven at this level. That would be a striker who has done it for a few seasons, not one.
Interesting. So Saha is not proven at this level?
goldfish
15-11-2007, 18:25
Am I missing something? To me, Mark Davies is a slightly better than average Championship midfielder who needs to prove himself quickly or face a career in the lower leagues. I certainly don't see this "next Gascoigne"!
Deutsch Wolf
15-11-2007, 18:52
Yeah, he'd best hurry up, he'll be 20 soon.
goldfish
15-11-2007, 19:55
Actually, I'd forgotten he was that young. He seems to have been around for an age!
astraltrader
16-11-2007, 22:13
Here's an interesting one from leftfield. I've got a friend who supports FC United Manchester and this is what he says:
"In the summer, Manchester United released Aaron Burns, despite him being the leading scorer in the reserves. Cardiff picked him up on trial, and were set to sign him until they went instead for Robbie Fowler and JF Hasselbaink.
Due to Cardiff owning his registration, and Burns having played summer football in Iceland to keep fit, he can't sign for another club until January. No one knows why, but no one wants to be the latest club to get $$$$ed over by the FA in an Altrincham/Wimbledon/but not West Ham kind of way.
All of which is good news for FC United, as he's signed on for a few months, and scored two goals on his debut. Wherever he turns up in January should count their lucky $$$$ing stars Cardiff went for two fat, old strikers, as Burns looks mint. "
He's now scored 8 in 6 for them and is being watched by Huddersfield among others. Could be worth a punt?
If true then I would have thought he must be worth a check on at least...
you got me there flitwick. I suppose saha has scored goals at a better level than championship so you would think he could score goals at this level. It is a little bit different to somebody like an eastwood or a billy sharp who havent done it on a regular basis at level higher than division one. When you buy players like that your buying potential.
Atlas 1951
16-11-2007, 23:13
I think Bothroyd and Eastwood are fine prospects and potential Premiership players, but neither is the finished article, particularly not Eastwood, and it remains to be seen whether they gel as a unit. A tall, bustling striker would unlock other options in difficult games where teams are sitting deep, and some experience either on the bench or in the starting XI could help Jay and Freddie improve their game.
I still cannot see that the striking department would be a priority come January, though. Playmaker and some cover for the flanks (both midfield and full back positions) is surely far more important. The team needs to be able to keep its shape when there are injuries.
leedswolf
18-11-2007, 11:36
Earnshaw scored 14 or 15 for albion when they were up there.. not a bad return IMO for a struggling side.
He scored 1 PL goal in 05/06 season before going to Naarwich on loan .......
He did score 11 PL goals in 04/05 though ........... :rolleyes:
I'm still unsure about the strikers, a playmaker is a must, anyone fancy Wayne Routledge? Nigel Quashie would be a good addition to cover for Seyi, Other players - Shola Ameobi? Marlon Harewood? Heidar Helguson?
David Edgar as cover for the flanks?
I'm just throwing names into the mixer!
Rightside Boy
18-11-2007, 15:16
Earnshaw may well score goals in this league but as proved he can't for Derby in the Prem, therefore a waste of £3.5 million which will be sorely needed when we get promoted.
And your point is ?? Wolves are currently in the championship NOT the prem, deal with the problem you have in front of you first, ie getting out of this league. Even with Morgans money i doubt we will be able to attract ANY players in January that would cut the mustard in the prem.
Moving on to the prem (if we get there) i dont think 3.5 million will be sorely needed (given his wealth) or indeed wasted, some might say a fair price to pay to acheive our desired goal.
And just for the record i dont think Earnshaw would be the answer, we DONT need more forwards, possibly a midfielder who can create and chip in with a few goals would be on my shopping list.
Henry and Davies would work better than Henry and Olofinjana in my opinon - Davies is a far more complete midfielder than Olofinjana (ie he can pass and tackle with ease) and is far more willing to run at players from midfield, which Seyi doesn't do.
I think Olofinjana in a free role within a 3-5-2 would excel but it is apparent the middle third is his domain and he will cause major $$$$ for any attacking side. He is not a box to box player, who can run or even think at speed and break the net from twenty yards and i think Mick is happier to win 1-0 than 3-2.
If Morgan is idiotic enough to let Mick splash our cash on another striker he can $$$$ off back to Liverpool. I am in the mood for Morgan to show us his cards in January. As little as £100K could turn us into a top two team. We'll see.
As long as MM buys young players then there's no risk of wasting money In the long term as they can be sold if there move doesn't work out.
I think we definitely need a another striker, One in, One out.
ErnieTheMilk
18-11-2007, 17:08
Personally I'd like to see a big powerful line leader up there, someone who doesn't move too far away from the either edge of the 18 yard line, just works the centre halves, and someone our smaller nippier guys can play round.
We just don't have this option at the moment and how many times do we have crossing options and no one to aim at, no one in the box as a target man and no one to play off.
Just my thoughts...
goldfish
18-11-2007, 17:21
Until the start of this season, Earnshaw had the second best minutes:goals ratio in Premiership history (of players who'd made at least 10 appearances).
Woburn Wolf
18-11-2007, 17:35
15 goals for Sunderland in 2004-05
5 goals for Sunderland in 2006-07
2 goals for us this season.
A slight miscalculation, 22 goals in total at Championship level.
7 goals in the last season and a half. I know this is partly because of his injury record but that is something that cannot be ignored.
wolvesman
18-11-2007, 18:52
And your point is ?? Wolves are currently in the championship NOT the prem, deal with the problem you have in front of you first, ie getting out of this league.
We DONT need more forwards, possibly a midfielder who can create and chip in with a few goals would be on my shopping list.
Spot on.. I think this will be MM's aim in Jan. Forget another forward, an attack minded midfielder should be the target, probably from our division as well. Forget about all this talk of this side isn't good enough for the Prem..its stating the obvious, but we should be good enough to get out of this league.
Eastwood isnt proven at this level at all. One season in this league, he scored a decent amount of goals for southend. That doesnt mean he is proven at this level. That would be a striker who has done it for a few seasons, not one.
A striker who's done it for a few seasons and proved himself at this level is either at or on his way to a Prem club, and if not, then he's not regarded as good enough for teams who want promotion. I can't think of one striker who's been consistently banging them in at this level, still plays at this level, and is highly regarded.
If we are looking for a big man, why not somebody like rowan vine on loan from blues? He did really well for luton in this league.
I cant think of any strikers around at the moment who have done it for a few seasons. They all seem to have moved on like you said aka.
leedswolf
19-11-2007, 08:22
Kevin Kyle?????????????????????
haden-wolf
19-11-2007, 09:46
shola a. would do a good job but newcastle have just knocked back an enquiry from somebody else.
