Freddy, no Wolves rift.

[Essex Wolf]

Link (http://www.expressandstar.com/2007/10/15/freddy-no-wolves-rift/)

Fair comments if true and correct.

Seeing as Eastwood is aware of what's needed then once he has done what's required will be interesting to see what happens.

[Big Mack]

Good to hear he's aware of what's required and that any problems with his play have been communicated and accepted. Well done to him for coming out and saying so and that there is no rift with MM.

[ROVERT47]

Flogging a dead horse with this one.
Had the report said Eastwood had spit his dummy out and was calling McCarthy a useless $$$$,the thread would have been on it's second page by now.

[duanepipe]

Bit dissapointed to hear it's down to him needing to improve his defensive game. He's a goal scorer. That would be like dropping Breen for not getting enough crosses in. Besides, his defensive play against Sheff Wed away was impressive I thought and he and Jay were the two strikers who looked like they would actually put the ball in the net if given the chance. Up to the manager though. He knows the players best.

[wolf of sedgley]

Bit off putting to hear it's down to him needing to improve his defensive game.

What!? You defend from the front. Everyone has a role to play defensively. Eastwood was a joke against coventry; never applying pressure to their defenders, never trying to win and balls (even if they were in his favour). This is basic stuff, and if he can't bring himself to do it he can stay on the bench until he will.

[Essex Wolf]

I'm just pleasd that Eastwood has made these coments, as I've said before though if true and correct.

Still don't agree with his public slating and hope any change in his play isn't detrimental to his ability as a striker.

[duanepipe]

He was our top scorer. Getting dropped and told to improve your defensive play is going to be hard to take when he HAD been doing the job he is paid and was brought here to do. If that's not his game and never has been then I'd be gutted to be dropped for it. I can think of some incredible goal scoring strikers who have zero defensive attributes. If he doesn't fit the system fine, if it's being dropped for being shoddy defensively I think that's harsh. Reminds me of watching Ganea see the Pole not scoring game after after game whilst he sat on the bench. Just seems not the right reason to drop him.

[Orange Squash]

This story in the E & S has been lifted from the NOTW - South Wales edition on Sunday. There was at least half a page dedicated to this story, and essentially Eastwood was saying that he is going to carry on fighting for his place and hopefully prove in the International games this week, that he is worthy of a recall for a first team place. Didn't appear to do his case any good following his performance on Saturday, but then that can be said for most of the Welsh squad.

[Essex Wolf]

Fully understand your points dp.

Players like Berbatov, Anelka, Carew and Martins are all good scorers but offer little defensively but don't get dropped because of it.

If MM wanted a forward who offered a great deal defensively and run his nuts off he should have signed one. Maybe Elliot is that player so why has MM spent good money on Eastwood?

[Mr Wolf]

Wales have San Marino next and despite his poor display on saturday hopefully he will keep his place and be able to get a few goals to give him a boost.

We need to start scoring goals though because once again our goals for column is terrible and goal difference played a big part last year.

Essex, it's a long season and maybe Mick just wants to keep the work ethic from last season hence the players he plays. Then when it comes to the business end we can start opening up and taking more risks and I think thats when Eastwood will come good.

[Kenny-11]

Are we not over reacting a tad with all this.

From what I recall, freddy came back from the last round of games for Wales and said he was knackered. Elliot replaced him and scored. Then Freddie was recalled for the Hull game and was gash. Got dropped again and by all accounts hasn't done that much when coming off the bench

(I put by all accounts because I have missed the Cov game due to Holiday and couldn't make it to Leicester)

[Essex Wolf]

Essex, it's a long season and maybe Mick just wants to keep the work ethic from last season hence the players he plays. Then when it comes to the business end we can start opening up and taking more risks and I think thats when Eastwood will come good.

Fair enough MW but you don't buy an expensive 4x4 and expect it to handle like a sports car or vice versa. By the time you realise this it may be a waste of money.

Whilst Eastwood is still young I fear trying to change him too much could have an adverse effect on his ability as a very good striker.

[fenella]

Whilst Eastwood is still young I fear trying to change him too much could have an adverse effect on his ability as a very good striker.

Why? At the moment Eastwood is a good player, but not a great player. That's why there wasn't a queue of Premiership clubs trying to sign him in the summer. McCarthy is trying to turn him into a great player, which is what managers and coaches are paid to do. If he can improve the other areas of his game and end up playing in the Premiership I'm sure he'll thank McCarthy.

[GoldenHorseshoe]

I'm just pleasd that Eastwood has made these coments, as I've said before though if true and correct.

Still don't agree with his public slating and hope any change in his play isn't detrimental to his ability as a striker.

I agree with you Essex, all indications seemed to point to a rift, since it wasn't that long ago that MM praised Freddie for tackling back.
Better out in the open.

[ROVERT47]

I agree with you Essex, all indications seemed to point to a rift, since it wasn't that long ago that MM praised Freddie for tackling back.
Better out in the open.
"People try to say I’ve fallen out with the gaffer but it’s not true,” he said.
Could you explain how that direct quote points to a rift?

[wolverine mick]

hope freddie is working hard, think we will need both him and jay to contribute at some time during the season, hopefully when they do they will become just as hard to dislodge from the starting line up

[Gratters]

Are we not over reacting a tad with all this.

From what I recall, freddy came back from the last round of games for Wales and said he was knackered. Elliot replaced him and scored. Then Freddie was recalled for the Hull game and was gash. Got dropped again and by all accounts hasn't done that much when coming off the bench

(I put by all accounts because I have missed the Cov game due to Holiday and couldn't make it to Leicester)

All valid points until you think would a knackered (if true) Eastwood be worse than a club footed Keogh ?.

[ROVERT47]

All valid points until you think would a knackered (if true) Eastwood be worse than a club footed Keogh ?.
Illustrations

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/images/ency/tnails/9198t.jpg (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/imagepages/9198.htm)Club foot deformity (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/imagepages/9198.htm)http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/images/ency/tnails/10112t.jpg (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/presentations/100056_1.htm)Club foot repair - series (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/presentations/100056_1.htm)
Alternative Names Return to top (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001228.htm#top)
Talipes equinovarus; Talipes
Definition Return to top (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001228.htm#top)
Clubfoot is when the foot turns inward and downward. It is seen at birth.


As far as i'm aware Andy Keogh was not born with this defect,perhaps you know more than me?

[GoldenHorseshoe]

"People try to say I’ve fallen out with the gaffer but it’s not true,” he said.
Could you explain how that direct quote points to a rift?

I wasn't meaning that quote, in fact that quote says the opposite. I meant the general criticism from Mick and the lethargy from Freddie pointed to a rift. I was agreeing with Essex when he said he was glad that Freddie made the statement.

[Evolution Wolf]

very reasuring news and good timing

[Wolv3nsam]

Bit dissapointed to hear it's down to him needing to improve his defensive game.

To think, during the Stoke game Mick said he made the best tackle in the game which saved our behinds. :D

[Swinford Wolf]

To think, during the Stoke game Mick said he made the best tackle in the game which saved our behinds. :D

Does this mean honest Mick is not so honest ? :):):)

[wanderer24]

Are we not over reacting a tad with all this.

From what I recall, freddy came back from the last round of games for Wales and said he was knackered. Elliot replaced him and scored. Then Freddie was recalled for the Hull game and was gash. Got dropped again and by all accounts hasn't done that much when coming off the bench

(I put by all accounts because I have missed the Cov game due to Holiday and couldn't make it to Leicester)

Absolutely correct Kenny.

[Atlas 1951]

Are we not over reacting a tad with all this.


I think the point was that some of us (myself included) felt Mick himself overreacted with the public dressings-down.

It does seem curious that so few goals are going in when the forward line is undoubtedly our strongest area of the field. I do understand the value of backtracking and hardworking forwards, but when Wolves get beaten 1-0 away from home how many of us turn around and say, "blimey, their centre forward was useful: okay, he fluffed loads of opportunities but he didn't half unsettle our centre-halves when we were in possession."

Not saying that Freddy Eastwood is that guy (I've not seen him play), but I have seen very good teams that have lacked a natural goalscorer, and they never manage to make up for it, no matter how popular their running off the ball and racy counter-attacking is.

But, with regard to your general point: yes, many of us (myself included) have probably taken it all far too seriously.

[Gratters]

Illustrations

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/images/ency/tnails/9198t.jpg (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/imagepages/9198.htm)Club foot deformity (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/imagepages/9198.htm)http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/images/ency/tnails/10112t.jpg (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/presentations/100056_1.htm)Club foot repair - series (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/presentations/100056_1.htm)
Alternative Names Return to top (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001228.htm#top)
Talipes equinovarus; Talipes
Definition Return to top (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001228.htm#top)
Clubfoot is when the foot turns inward and downward. It is seen at birth.


As far as i'm aware Andy Keogh was not born with this defect,perhaps you know more than me?

Have to confess I haven't seen him with his boots off but have seen him in front of goal !!

[Essex Wolf]

Why? At the moment Eastwood is a good player, but not a great player. That's why there wasn't a queue of Premiership clubs trying to sign him in the summer. McCarthy is trying to turn him into a great player, which is what managers and coaches are paid to do. If he can improve the other areas of his game and end up playing in the Premiership I'm sure he'll thank McCarthy.

Well he's hardly going to turn him into a great player by A) Not playing him, B) Making him a bench warmer most games and giving him the odd run out and C) By publicly slating him.

There are alternatives to try and achieve this if it is his aim.