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goldeneyed
07-08-2007, 16:27
West Brom have now signed Hoefkens and Morrision for a combined £2.25m and it will be interesting to see if Davies and Robinson disappear now. I think TM has made one or two good signings, particularly Barnett and Morrison, but several others are foreign unknowns who may or may not do the business. Beattie got a hattrick at the weekend but can't see him having the impact Kamara did and Phillips will be one year older They are also after striker Ricardo Vaz Te of Bolton and Pele of Southampton who plays defensive midfield and CB. The former would be a very good acquisition from what I have seen.
Considering they may lose five of their best players this close season it is hard to see why they should be as strong as last season. However, they still have some quality and the new signings look pretty astute. They will definitely be among the top six imv.
They seem to be signing some good players and will be top six this season like you say.
Salop Wolf
07-08-2007, 16:45
They will be pretty strong. A lot of new players to gel together and a miserable git in charge but even so they'll definitely challenge for the play offs.
they are also considerably rich comparing the income to the expenditure.
BlahBlah
07-08-2007, 16:48
They were always going to be spend big, what with the parachute money and huge surplus on transfers available.
It's whether these players turn out to be as good as their transfer fees.
Hoefkens is a great signing for £750,000.....Barnett's got a lot to prove, so has Morrisson. Beattie would struggle to get in our team.
As for all the foreigners, anybody's guess? They could be as effective as Silas in this country.
Templeton Peck
07-08-2007, 16:49
Robinson will go to Wigan now that Baines has gone and I'd bet that Davies will be gone before the window closes. West Brom have lost some massive players this summer and I'm not convinced by the replacements so far. Barnett is no Davies and Beattie is no Kamara. Morrison is a good player but again he won't be as good as Koumas. I expect them to be in the top 8 but Mowbray has got a real job on this season IMO.
Very surprised that Boro have let Morrison go, always seemed the most likely of their youngsters who could cut it in the prem... a Very good signing for them lot IMO
Barnett will be good for them in time but isnt the player Davies is unless he improves dramatically.
albion were never not going to be in the mix again even with their departures.
The test for Mowbray this time around is that it is now definately "his" team rather than an inherited one..will be interesting how he copes with it and the pressure that will be on as he is still a fairly unproven manager at this level.
With the wholsale changes they have had, they need to "Gel" very quickly
kidder_wolf_II
07-08-2007, 16:54
Pele from Southampton is rubbish i hope they get him :D:D
fullmoon
07-08-2007, 19:20
It all boils down to desperate signings.The alarm bells were ringing when they fail to win the playoffs and it took quite a while for them to sort out their fiasco.
Tomo was hoping to keep the same team.Apparently,it backfires because their so called star players wanted out after the PO's defeat and knowing a massive of exodus leaving had to scramble buying players at free will.
But what impact will it have on the club when you look at the players wages? Surely they are gonna be another Leeds if they are not careful.
They should have done just like what we did.
Signed players from the lower league or upped the academy lads.
Sorry Baggies,this time around the team needs to gel fast and if you have Roy Keane as your Gaffer,then i will eat my words ;)
Right now,get your rosaries when Wolves comes a calling.
You will need that.:)
Salop Wolf
07-08-2007, 20:13
It all boils down to desperate signings.
Kind of like what we were doing this time last season but without the cash to spend on them. And we did OK so its not necessarily a recipe for disaster.
AmericanWolf
07-08-2007, 21:44
They're throwing down a lot of money, but they're not buying the sort of players who can just jump right into life in the ccc. Hoefkens and Barnett are the only two from this level. There's going to be an adjustment period for sure, and, the question has to be asked, how's some Portuguese fellow going to do in the pouring rain at scunthorpe? Also, it seems like they've replaced half their team, and sold off half as well. Not great for team chemistry, especially since they haven't even played a preseason together.
Salop, most of our starters at the beginning of last season had been together at Wolves for more than just a week or two. Cort, Ricketts, O'Connor, Olofinjana, Craddock, Clyde, Murray. New players were slotted in around the core of a team with us last year, we didn't really build from scratch.
Panthera
07-08-2007, 21:53
It all boils down to desperate signings.The alarm bells were ringing when they fail to win the playoffs and it took quite a while for them to sort out their fiasco.
Tomo was hoping to keep the same team.
Not at all correct.
I know someone who works there. I can tell you with 100% certainty that Mowbray wanted his own men in a very long time ago. Some of the "superstars" he sussed out a while back. He even told someone at the training ground that Kamara had a summer move lined up before last season was finished.
He's changed the squad completely and changed the system. Only time will tell.
saturday boy
07-08-2007, 22:00
I reckon Albion have made some decent signings - a mixture of potential and experience. Hoefkens has performed consistently well for Stoke for a couple of seasons, Beattie could be something (or nothing), Barnett is clearly not without some talent and in Morrison they have a player who is probably just a little bit better than most Championship midfielders but maybe got caught short at the highest level - only 21 though.
They will have one of the best 11 in the championship but scratch the surface and the quality looks to diminish rapidly.
If they are thereabouts in January they will still have a sizeable warchest to dip into.
Adrian_Monk
07-08-2007, 22:09
the last portugese winger to come over to the championship was jose dominguez. Birmingham sold him for over ten times what they paid for him. It's not always safe to assume a foreigner won't settle in the first season.
gaz kford
07-08-2007, 22:16
the last portugese winger to come over to the championship was jose dominguez. Birmingham sold him for over ten times what they paid for him. It's not always safe to assume a foreigner won't settle in the first season.Yes Ade and you find that the portugese league does not paid over inflated wages for good players let alone average players.....
Deutsch Wolf
07-08-2007, 22:17
Michael Thomas? Barry Venison? Mike Marsh? Steve Harkness? Brian Deane? Paul Hughes? Stephen McPhee?
walsall wolf
07-08-2007, 22:48
signing too many foreigners
a mate of mine is a baggies fan, worried that they have brought in not many established names.
foreigners need time too settle, players like george proved that in order too come good, i think they may well struggle!!
:D
Stewarton Wolf
07-08-2007, 22:55
As I've said in other threads Craig Beattie will be a handful, reminds me of Bully, strong, quick, bustling and can score. With someone like Phillips alongside they will be hard to play against.
Thread Killer
07-08-2007, 22:56
foreigners need time too settle, players like george proved that
One player proved it?
I think the thing with the signings is just the amount of foreigners, who have now got about 2 months to gel into a brand new style of football or they're playing catch up for the rest of the season.
It'll be interesting to see how they cope with the 100mph, in yer face style of the Championship.
Very astute signings by TM and (ex WWFC) MV.
I'm certain they will institute a rapid change of their squad to hit the season running, like MM and IE did last season.
Predict 3rd place at seasons end.
The Bear
08-08-2007, 09:27
If Robinson and Davies leave they will have lost three of their first choice back four. They'll let more goals in for certain. Koumas and Kamara going will lead to less goals too.
Personally I think they'll do well to make the playoffs.
Del Woppio
08-08-2007, 09:33
I think they're a shoe in for the top 6. Still some decent players from last season, and some good signings for me.
I think albion have done very well to get the money they have for players in a team that underperformed last season. The problem they face is that they have to have one eye on the possibility of if they don't go up this season that their income will be dramatically reduced so therefore have to be more careful with the size/length of the contracts with the players they sign than the transfer fee paid for them-hence why there are a few foreign signings in there.
It really could be a promotion or bust season for them this year-i think they'll be top 6 but think they'll struggle for top 2,i think that may depend on how good a start they get off to over the 1st couple of months.
jbarnettuk1984
08-08-2007, 10:32
i'm sure they'll be there in the top 6 come the end of the season. as much as i'd like to see them struggle, even with the players leaving they still have a stronger starting 11 then most teams in this league. Mowbray has brought in a couple of handy players - and this time around they certainly won't have the 'big-shot' attitude the likes of Kamara and Koumas had last season. We may well, for the first season in quite a while, realistically be favourites to finish above them.. but it all comes down to which team gels more quickly and hits the ground running (as others have said). I must admit.. i fancy picking up 6 points against sandwell this season ;)
Salop Wolf
08-08-2007, 11:05
Just the 6 points? How about knocking them out of the FA cup as well???!!!
I agree that they have done very well to get the money they have done for the players leaving. these players only made the play offs and massively underachieved, I didnt even rate Kamara that highly given some of his finishing in the second half of the season.
They have money to strengthen in January if its all going wrong and I think they'll be in the Play Offs.
Panthera
08-08-2007, 11:41
If Robinson and Davies leave they will have lost three of their first choice back four. They'll let more goals in for certain.
Albion had the shortest back four in the division last year. The new recruits are all 6ft plus apparently.
Thank you Sir Jack
08-08-2007, 11:55
Mowbray has done some good business. He now has his own players around him. We will have had a good season if we finish above them.
kidder_wolf_II
08-08-2007, 12:49
Skysports are reporting that west brom have bid for chris brunt
Skysports are reporting that west brom have bid for chris brunt
would be a good signing.
as somebody points out though, they've replaced players with lesser quality.
Koumas => Morrison
Kamara => Beattie
Davies (probably) => Barnett
McShane => Hoefkens
ProudWolf
08-08-2007, 12:59
I think WBA will have a lot better team spirit though this season. They are Mowbrays players and he wont have any big-time charlies / nancy boys holding them back or disrupting the team, despite the level of ability they have.
fullmoon
08-08-2007, 15:49
Wow! The season has not started just yet and already white towels are thrown........What a spirit we have here onboard?
C'mon guys, we bought a lad from Grays and he came here and did a job which we never expected of.
What's the big deal of $$$$ baggies signings anyway? I am sure they too must have wanted players that we signed.
At this point of time Tomo will be the first gaffer in line on the chopping block should they fail to delivers.
Remember we have depths and talents this season plus the most important factor 'Young and Hungry!'
Up the Wolves!
ROVERT47
08-08-2007, 16:02
Wow! The season has not started just yet and already white towels are thrown........What a spirit we have here onboard?
C'mon guys, we bought a lad from Grays and he came here and did a job which we never expected of.
What's the big deal of $$$$ baggies signings anyway? I am sure they too must have wanted players that we signed.
At this point of time Tomo will be the first gaffer in line on the chopping block should they fail to delivers.
Remember we have depths and talents this season plus the most important factor 'Young and Hungry!'
Up the Wolves!
Careful mate, you'll have the love all teams fascists on your case.
wanderer24
08-08-2007, 20:14
Pant-wetters. Ask yourself this - Are the players they have signed better than the one's they sold?
I don' think so.
At this point of time Tomo will be the first gaffer in line on the chopping block should they fail to delivers.
I think that honour will go to Mick. I doubt Mr Morgan will settle for failure, but we will have to wait and see.
Pant-wetters. Ask yourself this - Are the players they have signed better than the one's they sold?
I don' think so.
perhaps not but the players they have signed dont have the "big i am" mentalitity about them which ultimately cost them promotion last season
cant stand Mowbray but some of his signings this summer have been very good, Barnett is slightly overpriced but will do well, Morrison is a great signing for this division and to top it off they may get the best left winger in the league from last season (bar Koumas)in Brunt
I think that honour will go to Mick. I doubt Mr Morgan will settle for failure, but we will have to wait and see.
Agreed
I think that honour will go to Mick. I doubt Mr Morgan will settle for failure, but we will have to wait and see.
Are you suggesting Gerard Houllier by christmas?
Dewsburywolf
08-08-2007, 22:23
Molineux mix. Why the .... are we discussing the **** ?
Are you suggesting Gerard Houllier by christmas?
It all depends on where we are. I don't think Mick will survive a poor season.
fullmoon
09-08-2007, 15:16
Bring em on!
Japan Wulf
09-08-2007, 15:22
It all depends on where we are. I don't think Mick will survive a poor season.
What do you class as a poor season?
What do you class as a poor season?
It'll be what Mr Morgan classes as a poor season that counts.
Kenny-11
09-08-2007, 15:32
It'll be what Mr Morgan classes as a poor season that counts.
Outside the top 6 = poor season
Defeat in the play off semi final = poor season
Will probably get away with a 3rd place and a narrow defeat in the Final
That would be my reckoning on how Morgan would see a poor season, based up progressing from last season.
Outside the top 6 = poor season
Defeat in the play off semi final = poor season
Will probably get away with a 3rd place and a narrow defeat in the Final
That would be my reckoning on how Morgan would see a poor season, based up progressing from last season.
Micks going to find it tough to keep his job then.
Kenny-11
09-08-2007, 16:26
Micks going to find it tough to keep his job then.
Thats just my take on it. We finished 5th last season, new owner who wants this club in the Prem quickly. Anything that isn't an improvement on last season with the players added so far and who we add during the season (loans or in the Jan transfer window) and I think Morgan will see that as a poor season. I could, as usual, be wrong though
