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26-08-2005, 08:57
A couple of lads in my local both non Wolves fans had a sponsored freebie down to the Chester game. (I missed it due to having a dry week)smileys/smiley19.gif


They gotto speak to Lee in one of the lounges and apart from being little and a nice bloke his comments went roughly as follows.


He felt his form and career were going backwards under DJ, but has made significant progress under Hoddle and is really happy playing for him. We have a great chance of promotion.


Its not much, but it confirms that Lee has the same opinion as many posters on here. Hoddle appears to know how to bring the best out in a player. Ihave a feetling thatEdwards will prove to be the next example of Glenns attention.

Goldwolf
26-08-2005, 09:06
Ihave a feetling thatEdwards will prove to be the next example of Glenns attention.


You may well be right. I've been much more impressed with Edwards already his season compared to last season. Maybe it's just that he's fully fit now, but maybe Hoddle has been working with him too.

Essex Wolf
26-08-2005, 09:11
I can't think of one player who has worsened under GH whereas several under DJ seem to lose skill, confidence and effort.

Wolvesthrunthru
26-08-2005, 09:23
I can't think of one player who has worsened under GH whereas several under DJ seem to lose skill, confidence and effort.


Ditto

EasternWolf
26-08-2005, 09:36
I think the problem on here is that too many posters are talking down the quality of players like Edwards, Craddock and Olofinjana - Ricketts as well perhaps, in the same way that they did Kennedy and Naylor last year. Many of them, who are disappearing after tuesday, did it for Anderton before we bought him. Iam sure Essex will agree with me when I say we are only beginning to realise the full extent of what the Jones factor did to many players. Maybe the Hoddle factor is just the opposite and is causing players to raise their games beyond their own expectations.


Dont get me wrong - I like Lescott - but for many people he is the only worthwhile player in the team, especially in the defence. The rest are always under suspicion.

Notty Wolf
26-08-2005, 10:50
But you all seem to be forgetting something.........





DJ ONLY signs players that don't need training!!! smileys/smiley36.gif

fielden05
26-08-2005, 13:27
I can't think of one player who has worsened under GH whereas several under DJ seem to lose skill, confidence and effort.





seol??terrible atm imo

peckhamwolf
26-08-2005, 13:30
I can't think of one player who has worsened under GH whereas several under DJ seem to lose skill, confidence and effort.





seol??terrible atm imo





Remember wide players are by their very nature inconsistent, no-one will be able to change that- they are used fleetingly during games and when double marked need to find that star quality that enables them to do soemthing different. Seol may not have it at the moment but Hoddle will find out what is required and Seol will deliver- but not overnight.

fenella
26-08-2005, 14:00
I can't think of one player who has worsened under GH whereas several under DJ seem to lose skill, confidence and effort.


Ditto





It makes sense because Hoddle is widely regarded as a very, very good coach. DJ is not a coach, and didn't even do most of the coaching when he was here. That's not always a bad thing provided the manager employs a good coach, which DJ failed to do.


Where I worry about Glenda is in his ability to make 11 well-coached players who are playing well actually get the ball in the back of net on a consistent basis.


Also, there's been a feel good factor around the Mol since Glenda arrived and that helps the players confidence. But if we go through a bad spell and the crowd start having a go (which is going to happen this season) then that's when we'll see how good Glenda is at motivation and building confidence in a team - I don't think that side of his job has been tested yet and I think it was something DJ was quite good at (not brilliant at, before you all start having a go at me).

Essex Wolf
26-08-2005, 14:07
I can't think of one player who has worsened under GH whereas several under DJ seem to lose skill, confidence and effort.





seol??terrible atm imo





Don't forget though that Seol was another of DJ's signings who has since GH's arrival improved overall. He is having a poor patch just now but he will get better and is still class player. Under DJ he would have just become another expensive signing who fizzles out to become a player the club lose a fortune on and ends up elsewhere only to improve under a better coach.

fenella
26-08-2005, 15:22
Under DJ he would have just become another expensive signing who fizzles out to become a player the club lose a fortune on and ends up elsewhere only to improve under a better coach.


For example?........

Essex Wolf
26-08-2005, 17:46
Silas cost the club a hefty chunk and yet DJ failed miserably, after ages of having him apparently watched, to get anything from the bloke. He now plays in Portugal and by all accounts is doing well.


Unless Wolves recoup a decent fee for him he will be a perfect example.

peckhamwolf
26-08-2005, 17:50
Under DJ he would have just become another expensive signing who fizzles out to become a player the club lose a fortune on and ends up elsewhere only to improve under a better coach.


For example?........





Cedric Rousell and to an extent Shaun Newton.

lostinbristol
26-08-2005, 17:53
Cedric Rousell





What a joke that whole saga was. Didn't he end up trying to basically sue the club?

Essex Wolf
26-08-2005, 17:55
Cedric Rousell





What a joke that whole saga was. Didn't he end up trying to basically sue the club?



Don't know about that but he went on to become his sides leading scorer.

Black Suit
26-08-2005, 18:44
[QUOTE=fielden05]


[QUOTE=seol??terrible atm imo


Remember wide players are by their very nature inconsistent, no-one will be able to change that..........


Why? You've lost me there mate. smileys/smiley5.gif

Black Suit
26-08-2005, 18:53
[/QUOTE]


It makes sense because Hoddle is widely regarded as a very, very good coach. DJ is not a coach, and didn't even do most of the coaching when he was here. [/QUOTE]


DJhas his qualifications! Therefore he can be regarded as a coach.


I have been to see Wolves train six times since Easterand GH has only fleetingly taken part. In fact the sessions on three of the occasions were very poor indeed.


There are people on here that are making comments that obviously haven't seen Wolves train. I cannot make generalisations after just six sessions, but I have yet to see anything of interest that I haven't seen at Notts Co, Mansfield, Chesterfield and Forest, Alfreton Town, Hucknall Town etc.


Coaching in this country is poor. I have no knowledge of what people do abroad at all but it can't be worse than here. My son is currently being coached by Forest at weekends and is at best fun and basic.
Edited by: Black Suit

peckhamwolf
26-08-2005, 18:59
[QUOTE=fielden05]


[QUOTE=seol??terrible atm imo


Remember wide players are by their very nature inconsistent, no-one will be able to change that..........


Why? You've lost me there mate. smileys/smiley5.gif





For one the law of averages means even the best don't beat their man every time.Secondly with teams doubling up even on the likes of Andy Sinton and Mark Kennedy, Barnes and Waddle, Giggs, SWP, Duff and Robben, etc,subconciously we feel they weren't as good as they used to be, or have lost their spark- it's simply that defenders have wised up to them, they are marked by two men,and they have less space to find that special piece of skill to beat their man than, for instance, a Berkovic, Ronaldinho, Kinkladze or Kaka in the middle

Black Suit
26-08-2005, 19:23
Surely that's the same for other positions when the player in question perhaps is a one-trick pony. e.g. Ronaldo and a step over or two!


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