New Bully 'n' Mutch

[wanderer24]

I thought the understanding between Ward and Keogh was fantastic, they played as a pair and worked off each others shoulders. Last time we had a REAL partnership between the strikers?

[John]

High point of the day for me.

[wolf of sedgley]

It was nice to see. Ward sure knows how to win headers!

[Goldwolf]

Surely that should be the new Steve and Andy? :D

I do agree that the interplay and understanding between them was excellent. Between them they were winning practically everything in the air.

[HIGHLANDER]

When they score 80 goals between them in a single season they'll have earnt the right for such a comparison.I think their first game together is just a little bit early.I'm not suprised though to read such tripe on this forum.

[wanderer24]

When they score 80 goals between them in a single season they'll have earnt the right for such a comparison.I think their first game together is just a little bit early.I'm not suprised though to read such tripe on this forum.

You could have stopped at the little bit early bit - but no, you had to go on to be an arsehole..................
the thread was just suppost to be a discussion on their potential and where it might lead. Obviously they haven't done enough to be compared with them, but you know, i saw enough today to suggest they could play a very important role in getting us promoted next season.

[Pengwern]

Their supplier is on his way:-

From the Stockport County website: "By this time the Blue & White Army's victory anthems were ringing around the old stadium but there was still time for one very, very special moment.

'One Stephen Gleeson, There's Only One Stephen Gleeson, began to echo out of the packed away end.

And, on the final whistle the young Irishman went straight over to the magnificent travelling fans to show his appreciation.

The 18-year-old was moved to tears by the ovation, which he later admitted, would remain with him for the rest of his life".

[Pengwern]

and Stockport's manager says:-

"Jim Gannon admitted that although he will be saddened by Stephen Gleeson's departure after Saturday's game at Hereford he's excited for the midfielder who has really matured during his three-month loan spell at Edgeley Park.

Speaking exclusively to stockportcounty.com the County chief said: "Stephen has been fantastic for us and it's been amazing the way he's grown over the last three months not just as a player but also as a person as well.

"He's got all the skills for a footballing midfielder and you don't see too many of them that are willing to get on the ball and move the ball with pace and quality.

"He can travel with the ball as well, and pick a pass off and see a pass and he's a joy to watch in training and a joy to watch matches.

"I am disappointed that he's leaving us and saddened by him going but on the other side I'm really excited for him because I think the three months has done him the world of good.

"He goes back to Wolves now to face another challenges and I wish him well in that challenge and I think if he adds the quality that he's added to us then he'll be pushing Wolves to the play-offs like he's done for us."

[leedswolf]

Their supplier is on his way:-



Presumably the 'New Robbie Dennison' :o

[wanderer24]

He always impressed me in the youth team and reserve games. Suprised at the start of the season it wasn't him rather than O'Conner given a chance in cm.

[luiandlui]

When they score 80 goals between them in a single season they'll have earnt the right for such a comparison.I think their first game together is just a little bit early.I'm not suprised though to read such tripe on this forum.

Please let us all know what season Steve Bull and Andy Mutch scored 80 goals in this division. Then we will all take your comments seriously. Until then everyone will treat them as the gibberish they are.

[gaz kford]

Please let us all know what season Steve Bull and Andy Mutch scored 80 goals in this division. Then we will all take your comments seriously. Until then everyone will treat them as the gibberish they are.
Should that be"that they are";)

[wanderer24]

It's like posting threads with my mum watching, people seem more concerned with spelling and grammar than they are with content on this site...........................

[HIGHLANDER]

You could have stopped at the little bit early bit - but no, you had to go on to be an arsehole.And you have stoop to playground language......You said that you were trying to start a discussion.If you live to be a thousand I very much doubt if Wolves will ever have another partnership like Bull and Mutch.Comparing Keogh and Ward to the two after their first match together is frankly not worth "discussing".....This thread has to be one of the worse ever.

[gaz kford]

It's like posting threads with my mum watching, people seem more concerned with spelling and grammar than they are with content on this site...........................
If you dont like it $$$$ off back under the rock you came from. ;)

[leedswolf]

It's like posting threads with my mum watching, people seem more concerned with spelling and grammar than they are with content on this site...........................

Surely spelling and grammar is the content :confused:

[wanderer24]

If you dont like it $$$$ off back under the rock you came from. ;)


whether i like it or not, i still have the right to my opinion and i don't anyone who actually lives under a rock....

[wanderer24]

And you have stoop to playground language......You said that you were trying to start a discussion.If you live to be a thousand I very much doubt if Wolves will ever have another partnership like Bull and Mutch.Comparing Keogh and Ward to the two after their first match together is frankly not worth "discussing".....This thread has to be one of the worse ever.

that's funny, because there were plenty of people coming out of the ground who too thought the partnership showed great promise and forgive me for thinking positively about the future of it.

[gaz kford]

whether i like it or not, i still have the right to my opinion and i don't anyone who actually lives under a rock....

You miss know. And before you start i had the same $$$$ when i first joined.;)

[luiandlui]

You miss know. And before you start i had the same sh-t when i first joined.;)


Shouldn't that be you missed know ??

Touche.

[wanderer24]

You miss know. And before you start i had the same sh-t when i first joined.;)

$$$$ happens when you're trying to type too quickly - it's the raging anger that people seem to get caught up the detail and miss the bigger picture.
We do have the makings of a very good team, we all want wolves to do well and we all want the molineux to be bouncing. Let's all work in the same direction...............

[HIGHLANDER]

Please let us all know what season Steve Bull and Andy Mutch scored 80 goals in this division. Then we will all take your comments seriously. Until then everyone will treat them as the gibberish they are.Seeing You are so clever,perhapes you would like to tell us all how many goals Bull and Mutch scored between them in the 87/88 season? I think that you'll admit that my comments weren't such gibberish when you find out.

[luiandlui]

Seeing You are so clever,perhapes you would like to tell us all how many goals Bull and Mutch scored between them in the 87/88 season? I think that you'll admit that my comments weren't such gibberish when you find out.

What division was that in ?

[gaz kford]

Shouldn't that be you missed know ??

Touche.
:D Please translate :D

[HIGHLANDER]

that's funny, because there were plenty of people coming out of the ground who too thought the partnership showed great promiseWas that coming out of the family enclosure with your granny and grandpa.........How sweet.

[luiandlui]

:D Please translate :D


Sorry, got a bit continental

[HIGHLANDER]

What division was that in ?I didn't say division, I said Season.

[luiandlui]

I didn't say division, I said Season.

Are you suggesting that the amount of goals a striker scores in a season should be the benchmark of that striker regardless of the level of football that striker is playing at the time ?

[leedswolf]

Seeing You are so clever,perhapes you would like to tell us all how many goals Bull and Mutch scored between them in the 87/88 season? I think that you'll admit that my comments weren't such gibberish when you find out.

75 goals between them in all competitions. That was in Division 4. luiandlui was making the point about their aggregate in the CCC (Division 2). Their best aggregate for all competions in this division is 39.

[wolfman]

Those were the days my friend I thought they would never end.
Get real folks we will never have the likes of Bull and Mutch here again but lets not compare todays footballers to yesterdays heros they did well today and lets give them a chance , yesterday is history .

[luiandlui]

I didn't say division, I said Season.
Wayne Gretzky scores 70+ goals most seasons in the NHL. Should we sign him ?

[leedswolf]

Those were the days my friend I thought they would never end.
Get real folks we will never have the likes of Bull and Mutch here again but lets not compare todays footballers to yesterdays heros they did well today and lets give them a chance , yesterday is history .

Spot on. They are the new Ward and Keogh.

[leedswolf]

Wayne Gretzky scores 70+ goals most seasons in the NHL. Should we sign him ?

Didn't he retire in '99? :confused:

[luiandlui]

Didn't he retire in '99? :confused:


Perhaps we should be searching for the new him !!

[HIGHLANDER]

Are you suggesting that the amount of goals a striker scores in a season should be the benchmark of that striker regardless of the level of football that striker is playing at the time ?You are changing your tune now and backing off from your original argument....How funny.....

[wolfman]

Spot on. They are the new Ward and Keogh.

Yes and let them be that let them be a partnership without compair to "Richards and Dougan or Bull and Mutch " ( or miller and blake :P ).

For gods sake let us get real.
Lets get behind The New Wolves..........

[wanderer24]

Was that coming out of the family enclosure with your granny and grandpa.........How sweet.

No, that was coming out of the south bank and then walking past supporters coming out of the BW and all the way back to my car.
By the way, my granny and grandpa are dead - thanks for mentioning.

[luiandlui]

You are changing your tune now and backing off from your original argument....How funny.....

Please let us all know what season Steve Bull and Andy Mutch scored 80 goals in this division. Then we will all take your comments seriously. Until then everyone will treat them as the gibberish they are.

That was my original argument. Not sure how I've backed away from it (apart from the Wayne Gretzky stuff, it is late !!). I do agree that its miles to early to compare Keogh and Ward to any strike partnership let alone th best we've had in many years. However, to suggest that to get that comparison a strike partnership would have to score 80 goals in a season is ridiculous as Bull and Mutch would never have achieved that at this level.

[wanderer24]

75 goals between them in all competitions. That was in Division 4. luiandlui was making the point about their aggregate in the CCC (Division 2). Their best aggregate for all competions in this division is 39.

So it's 39 to beat for Andy and Steve for next season?

[HIGHLANDER]

75 goals between them in all competitions. That was in Division 4. luiandlui was making the point about their aggregate in the CCC (Division 2). Their best aggregate for all competions in this division is 39.75 goals,I wasn't that far out.I said 80 as the nearest round figure...I dont think Luiandlui had the remotest clue judging by subsequent posts.I clearly stated 'season' as well and not 'division'

[luiandlui]

75 goals,I wasn't that far out.I said 80 as the nearest round figure...I dont think Luiandlui had the remotest clue judging by subsequent posts.I clearly stated 'season' as well and not 'division'

I don't think there is a Wolves fan alive, me included, who couldn't have guessed closer. Again you continue to miss the point...

[wanderer24]

75 goals,I wasn't that far out.I said 80 as the nearest round figure...I dont think Luiandlui had the remotest clue judging by subsequent posts.I clearly stated 'season' as well and not 'division'
You weren't far out and you did say season but there is a difference between 2nd and 4th division. Let's see at the end of the season how well these pair do and we should have a pretty good idea of what their capable of.

[HIGHLANDER]

By the way, my granny and grandpa are dead - thanks for mentioning.Yeah, I knew that and was just being a $$$$:rolleyes:

[Chiswick_Wolf]

Highlander - I don't think people are arguing the fact you mention on nearly 80 goals being scored by Bull and Mutch during the season in question - they are simply saying that the figure was achieved at a much easier level and therefore expecting Keogh and Ward to achieve that in the Championship is a very different proposition.

[GoldenHorseshoe]

It's like posting threads with my mum watching, people seem more concerned with spelling and grammar than they are with content on this site...........................

Did you eat all of your greens today, young man?

[wanderer24]

Did you eat all of your greens today, young man?

It's been a long time since i've been called that. Don't forget to take your teeth out before you go to bed.

[Mr Wolf]

I cannot believe i just sat and read through all that.

[HIGHLANDER]

they are simply saying that the figure was achieved at a much easier level and therefore expecting Keogh and Ward to achieve that in the Championship is a very different proposition.

The facts are,Bull and Mutch scored over 70 goals in two consequtive seasons.I dont think any Wolves strike partnership can match that or will match it in the future.It doesn't matter if it was in division four or the Championship it was a purely amazing partnership that cannot be compared to anything since,either at Wolves or ant other league club.Put any present striking partnership in div 2 and they wouldn't score over 70 goals two sseasons running.

How many strike partnerships in League one or League two have got anywhere near Bull and Mutch's record since or before ?

For those of you rattling on that their best aggregate in the league was 39.I'll show my backside on the townhall steps if Keogh and Ward get 39 between them in the league next season.

[GoldenHorseshoe]

It's been a long time since i've been called that. Don't forget to take your teeth out before you go to bed.

I'll have you know we have excellent dental care in Canada. (Austin)

[GoldenHorseshoe]

For those of you rattling on that their best aggregate in the league was 39.I'll show my backside on the townhall steps if Keogh and Ward get 39 between them in the league next season.


That's a very tricky option you're suggesting there Highlander. on the one hand of course we want out 2 new strikers to score more than 39 goals, but on the other hand..............

[Papper]

Its a bit too soon to make comparisons but watching them pair today was a joy. I dont know what it is but they just look like 'Wolves' players. Keogh has that arrogant but strong gait about him and Ward is just a snarl, sleeves rolled up, snot and attitude. We'll see if they can play first i reckon. Early days.

Kightly's the main man :cool:

[Japan Wulf]

The fact that people are prepared to argue the point whether Keogh and Ward should be compared to Mutch and Bull is in itself encouraging for me.

At least, it seems that few left the ground thinking," Christ.... not another bloomin' donkey".
My cup is at least half full.

[wolfman27]

That's a very tricky option you're suggesting there Highlander. on the one hand of course we want out 2 new strikers to score more than 39 goals, but on the other hand..............

I'd suggest you don't want your other hand anywhere near highlander :eek:

[cannockwolves]

It is too early to be saying we have a new bull and mutch, but the link up play awareness of each other, keogh's unselfishness for the goal, the quality of ball control by both really gave me the impression that in this pair we have more than a collection of individuals - they show the traits and patterns of play of a strike partnership that we have not seen for a very long time. I for one enjoyed it for what it was evidence that two of our players can be more than the sum of their parts (2+2=5)

[Bilston_Wolf]

I think they linked up well but to call them the new Bull and Mutch is a bit extreme at this early stage, hopefully they can develop though and i must admit i liked the look of them, especially Keogh.

[Hatch End Wolf]

I thought they looked a good pairing, certainly the best at the Mol for a long time. They didn't look out of place in the Championship and it has to be remembered that neither has played at this level before. Pity Big Mick had to spoil it by swapping Bothroyd for Ward in the second half.

Of course we are Wolves, so just when we look to have improved our attacking options the defence and midfield have got worse.

[Staten Island Wolf]

".....backside on the townhall steps....." I'm wearing my Ireland scarf and Wolves shirt to the Southampton match! Ole Ole Ole....Ole...Ole...;)

[Staten Island Wolf]

Might need a bikini wax Highlander!:eek:

[Lupo Italiano]

The new Bull and Mutch is a little premature.

However, there is no denying that this partnership was a breath of fresh air and to see 2 young lads in Wolves shirts knowing how to play as a productive front pair, wining the ball in the air, flicking it on to his partner...

I had the pleasure of meeting Big Mick last night and I told him that out of all the partnerships he has tried this season, this looked by far the most competant and promising.

I can't wait to see them again next game.

[HIGHLANDER]

Might need a bikini wax Highlander!:eek:Liposuction as well.:D

[Staten Island Wolf]

:p LOL! You're obviously a bit of a card Highlander. I'll buy you a pint in the New Inns on sat 31. Look for two skinny grey haired 50 year olds. My brother might be singing Fields of Athenry if he's had his quota.

[SBDJ]

To me it's more important that they don't turn out to be the new Akinbiyi and Ndah

[Lupo Italiano]

I think Akinbiyi and Ndah would have been a great partnership if Matt Carbon hadn't have crocked George in only his 3rd game for the club

[SBDJ]

I think Akinbiyi and Ndah would have been a great partnership if Matt Carbon hadn't have crocked George in only his 3rd game for the club

Exactly

[leedswolf]

New Inns on sat 31. Look for two skinny grey haired 50 year olds. My brother might be singing Fields of Athenry if he's had his quota.

I will definitely look out for your brother ;)