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Essex Wolf
23-01-2007, 19:33
Couldn't make last weekends V's Cardiff due to other commitment and just wondering if anyone could obilge by answering my question.
Having seen the gate was below 17000 I was disappointed to think Wolves could have gone into a PO place and yet so little interest was shown.
Accepting there were no Cardiff fans even if there were the gate wouldn't I believe have reached much more than a tad over 18000.
So I'm interested to know if a lot of Wolves fans boycotted this game in sympathy with those who chose to demonstrate?
If the answer is no then the gate was terrible and a real shock as it seems the Wolves support is leaving in droves.
Lupo Italiano
23-01-2007, 19:39
Couldn't make last weekends V's Cardiff due to other commitment
Thought the atmosphere was lacking somewhat :D
Considering the contents of your post, surely the thread should be entitled 'Question for those who didn't go Saturday'?
I was there so can't say why others weren't!
Essex Wolf
23-01-2007, 19:45
Thought the atmosphere was lacking somewhat :D
Considering the contents of your post, surely the thread should be entitled 'Question for those who didn't go Saturday'?
I was there so can't say why others weren't!
Cheers LI but you get the gist.;)
Lupo Italiano
23-01-2007, 19:55
Though I was there, got to say this: whilst I felt sorry for the majority of decent Cardiff fans suffering as a result of their moronic, but significant minority, no way would I miss a game out of sympathy for them.
I was hoping our significant numbers compared to their lack of away support would intimidate the life out of their players.
Unfortunately I was wrong!
I think the low crowd was just a continuation of how things have been all season, general apathy. Our crowds have generally been around 18,000, so if you take away the away element, that makes 16,000 about right.
The Weasel
23-01-2007, 19:57
I thought Cardiff were predicting bringing 3000 had they been allowed, I know there were a hell of a lot of them during last year's half time entertainment! That would have taken us to about the 20k mark which is par the course these days especially for an early kick-off on a cold January day.
Couldn't make last weekends V's Cardiff due to other commitment .
What was this other commitment?
You have previously questioned my priorities for missing a match to attend a family party so I'm curious as to what sort of occasion made you miss a match.
derbyrameater
23-01-2007, 21:15
take out ST`s who didn`t go..could it have been even less than 16000?
Black Suit
23-01-2007, 22:40
I didn't attend.
Welsh Y'am Y'am
23-01-2007, 23:00
Also take into account the fact you couldn't buy a ticket unless you'd already been to three matches or more this season.
Lupo Italiano
23-01-2007, 23:07
I didn't attend.
Can't you be more helpful and tell us why? :D
Stewarton Wolf
23-01-2007, 23:33
I find the fall in attendances somewhat suprising if we believe the comments of the silent majority on the board and who clearly throw their support behind the well run club under the exceptional guidance of SJH and the best Chief Exec bar none Jez Moxey.
Or could it be that there are significant numbers me included who feel they cannot support the way the club has been run and the spin/lies/mis-information/incompetance call it what you may and are voting with their feet.
As for Cardiff fans I have no sympathy sorry, you picked the wrong coppers to mess with last season.
London Wolves
23-01-2007, 23:40
take out ST`s who didn`t go..could it have been even less than 16000?
Agreed. As STHs are counted as being there when not, the gate I reckon was about 14k
wolf of sedgley
23-01-2007, 23:53
Agreed. As STHs are counted as being there when not, the gate I reckon was about 14k
I reckon it was 2k!
Corica was King
23-01-2007, 23:54
THe fact that the club seem to bow down to Mest midlands Police at every opportunity. Why have a one o clock kick off when no away fans. We need to stand up to the police, demand a three o clock kick off and make them do their job.
whitemouse75
24-01-2007, 06:19
does the kick-off time matter that much, particularly when the pubs are closed?
Visage Wolf
24-01-2007, 08:30
THe fact that the club seem to bow down to Mest midlands Police at every opportunity. Why have a one o clock kick off when no away fans. We need to stand up to the police, demand a three o clock kick off and make them do their job.
They wouldnt agree to it. Full stop.
Stamping our collective feet like petulant children wont change that.
wolfie smith
24-01-2007, 08:31
THe fact that the club seem to bow down to Mest midlands Police at every opportunity. Why have a one o clock kick off when no away fans. We need to stand up to the police, demand a three o clock kick off and make them do their job.
PERHAPS YOU COULD CONTACT CARDIFF'S MANY THOUSAND WHO TURNED UP ON A BUS SATURDAY, they sure no how to throw a protest.
im pretty sure if we tried to stand up to the police we'd get absolutely nowhere.
i only went because i won 2 tickets, the cost is prohibitive otherwise.:(
Wivey Wolf
24-01-2007, 08:32
They wouldnt agree to it. Full stop.
Stamping our collective feet like petulant children wont change that.
Maybe if we all hold our breath until we're blue in the face might help?
JR's Boots
24-01-2007, 09:21
A decent CEO would have realised that the attendance would be lower than normal due to no away supporters, early kick off time etc and that the atmostphere would be worse than normal. To counteract this he would have announced a kids for a fiver scheme, or some other ticket promotion to attract more supporters.
The problem is we're currently stuck with a bean counter who is more interested in money that the club's fan base and team affairs.
19th Holer
24-01-2007, 09:32
I was in the Ticket Office last Wednesday picking up my cup tickets and quite a few people came in trying to buy Cardiff tickets as I talked to someone I knew in there. I don't think any of them could satisfy the criteria required to purchase. Two people wanted tickets for themselves and a child but were told they could only have one ticket, something to do with supporter numbers. There were some very p**d off fans in there.
If that 20 minutes was indicative of the situation then I'm not surprised the crowd was down.
wolfie smith
24-01-2007, 09:35
essex you missed the advertising hoardings flying about but it was nothing compared to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIKdK-T-jZM
Del Woppio
24-01-2007, 09:52
A decent CEO would have realised that the attendance would be lower than normal due to no away supporters, early kick off time etc and that the atmostphere would be worse than normal. To counteract this he would have announced a kids for a fiver scheme, or some other ticket promotion to attract more supporters.
The problem is we're currently stuck with a bean counter who is more interested in money that the club's fan base and team affairs.
The problem with ticket promotions is that the supporter history requirement for that match would have rendered it fairly pointless.
RichRalph
24-01-2007, 10:34
The "floating" fans were not allowed to attend unless they had recent history of attending games and a supporter number. Add to this the fact that they had to collect their tickets from 11am and you have the ideal recipe for a small crowd.
I think the club's hands were tied by the Health and Saftey Group and the Police, but let's blame Moxey anyway. (If he doesn't agree with them, we lose our H&S certificate and thus, no games are allowed at Molineux, but let's still blame Moxey)
Allowing kids for a fiver would have made no difference, unless they could satisfy the above criteria.
The 1pm KO time would also have put a few off maybe. Especially those travelling from a long distance.
Having said all that, our crowds are still very poor this season, for which I blame Glenn Hoddle and the pricing structure of football in this country.
Uncle Festa
24-01-2007, 10:58
Your right about the real attendance. I would have said about 14000 which doesn't bode well for next year. Looks as if the escape strategy for Moxey has come just at the right time.
PREM.L.L
24-01-2007, 11:27
Was there any evidence of ANY Wolves fans staying out in sympathy??
What bloody mincers if there were!
grumpy old wolf
24-01-2007, 11:33
I am a STH but did not attend as I worked that morning and could not make the early KO . It seems that the number of 3pm Saturday KO's are getting less and less each year . Does anyone else find this a pain
welshwolf
24-01-2007, 12:26
due to the nature of my job and where I live I only make 6/8 games a year,( i know I am a bad person and have no right to post on here) this was one I targeted at the beginning of the year (having lived in Cardiff most of my life)and booked time out of my diary to go however due to the criteria was unable to go.
also if you had opened it up to kids for a fiver you would have had 3000 valley commandos in short trousers and welsh accents
JR's Boots
24-01-2007, 14:20
Why is the club, faced with declining attendances, hell bent on making it so difficult for people to buy tickets? It's a bizaare attitude and policy to adopt.
We seem to be developing a situation now where the manager and the team are heading in the right direction but the fans feel utterly alienated and disgruntled by those in charge.
I remain a Wolves fan to the core of my being but can't ever remember being so disenchanted with the way we're being fleeced, misled and treated by the club.
Visage Wolf
24-01-2007, 14:23
Why is the club, faced with declining attendances, hell bent on making it so difficult for people to buy tickets? It's a bizaare attitude and policy to adopt.
Im not so sure they are - it just seems that way as we've had two games in sucvcession where the club have needed to verify exactly who is buying tickets - hence the requirement to verify purchase history, for example.
We seem to be developing a situation now where the manager and the team are heading in the right direction but the fans feel utterly alienated and disgruntled by those in charge.
I remain a Wolves fan to the core of my being but can't ever remember being so disenchanted with the way we're being fleeced, misled and treated by the club.
IMO you're overreacting.
Black Suit
24-01-2007, 16:28
Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Suit
I didn't attend.
Can't you be more helpful and tell us why? :D
My youngest plays football on Saturday mornings, and I transport the little bleeders. :mad:
I can't go on Sunday either, Fiskerton have a game! We are not allowed to postpone a game, the League have warned all clubs. Mainly because Forest play Chelsea on the same day and loads of players are going apparently. :mad: :mad:
Boss Hogg
24-01-2007, 16:58
Why is the club, faced with declining attendances, hell bent on making it so difficult for people to buy tickets? It's a bizaare attitude and policy to adopt.............
I agree with this and taking it further, at some games earlier on in the season if you wanted to pay on the day, the only cash turnstiles were the billy quiet or steve bull stands - so not only did you have to pay more, but you end up in the quietest parts of the ground.
Essex Wolf
24-01-2007, 17:20
What was this other commitment?
You have previously questioned my priorities for missing a match to attend a family party so I'm curious as to what sort of occasion made you miss a match.
Politely put it's sweet FA to do with you.
Politely put it's sweet FA to do with you.
Then perhaps you shouldn't question the priorities of others who miss games then.
Essex Wolf
24-01-2007, 17:45
Then perhaps you shouldn't question the priorities of others who miss games then.
My response John was because I don't recall questioning you but if I did there would have been reason I imagine as opposed to just questioning for the sake of it.
My only gripe with those who don't go is when they have no reason not to and then try and make out they are a supporter. We all have occasion when circumstances stop us attending a game and sobeit.
welshwolf
24-01-2007, 20:42
Im not so sure they are - it just seems that way as we've had two games in sucvcession where the club have needed to verify exactly who is buying tickets - hence the requirement to verify purchase history, for example.
agreed to an extend but the rules did seem too strict, I purchase around 8/10 tickets per year,plus all the spending I do on the club shop etc they have my details and are not slow at contacting me when they want me to part with my money so why doubt that I am a Wolves fan.
