Bradders
10-01-2007, 09:49
Journo behind the story in the Mirror on Talksport NOW...
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Wivey Wolf
10-01-2007, 09:53
Has he got his facts right yet?
Bradders
10-01-2007, 09:57
This is a rough outline of what was said...
The talks were more than "$$$$ chat".
Souness was dealing with the man that matters - SJH - NOT an employee of the company - Moxey. "talking to organ grinder not the monkey".
Doesnt' want to disrupt the club or sack MM. Will give funds for players to push for promotion.
Likes MM.
SJH has had his time and it's time for someone fresh.
Was a pretty anti-Moxey chat.
GS & SJH talking figures for one week.
GS DESPERATE to buy the club. It's the right time to buy the club as SJH has had his time and has other interests, i.e. 3 month world cruise.
Pini Zahivi is NOT involved.
Other person is a British businessman who doesn't want to be known at this time.
The talks were more than "$$$$ chat".
Souness was dealing with the man that matters - SJH - NOT an employee of the company - Moxey. "talking to organ grinder not the monkey".
Doesnt' want to disrupt the club or sack MM. Will give funds for players to push for promotion.
Likes MM.
SJH has had his time and it's time for someone fresh.
Was a pretty anti-Moxey chat.
GS & SJH talking figures for one week.
GS DESPERATE to buy the club. It's the right time to buy the club as SJH has had his time and has other interests, i.e. 3 month world cruise.
Pini Zahivi is NOT involved.
Other person is a British businessman who doesn't want to be known at this time.
tatlor
10-01-2007, 09:57
he says souness's backer is british
Uncle Festa
10-01-2007, 09:57
Like the comment about talking to the organ grinder and not the monkey. Sums Wolves up though when he says that Jack is now on a three month holiday so they have to talk to Moxey. What the $$$$ is going on? If you want to sell the club then you cancel your frigging holiday and get negotiating. The club ain't for sale that is clear. Also interesting to note that the money behind it is British.
UEAwolf
10-01-2007, 09:58
"Wanted to talk to the organ grinder rather than the monkey" :) (SJH rather than Moxey!)
Money is British from an established business, the owner wanting to remain anonymous for the time being.
Pini Zahavi/foreign money not involved- any other rumours are from people "wanting to keep hold of their jobs"
Souness interested for a long time--took this long to raise funds.
Souness initially discussed deal with SJH before Moxey became involved later on.
Money is British from an established business, the owner wanting to remain anonymous for the time being.
Pini Zahavi/foreign money not involved- any other rumours are from people "wanting to keep hold of their jobs"
Souness interested for a long time--took this long to raise funds.
Souness initially discussed deal with SJH before Moxey became involved later on.
scottishwolf II
10-01-2007, 10:12
Other person is a British businessman who doesn't want to be known at this time.
Maybe Wolves should act in a similarly professional manner to GS and name the businessman who doesn't want to be named.
Maybe Wolves should act in a similarly professional manner to GS and name the businessman who doesn't want to be named.
The_Blade
10-01-2007, 10:14
Maybe it's Willie Mckay?
Nashie
10-01-2007, 10:14
I did say yesterday that Souness' comments were alluding to the fact that he views Moxey as the stumbling block. This appears to confirm this.
Papper
10-01-2007, 10:15
Maybe Wolves should act in a similarly professional manner to GS and name the businessman who doesn't want to be named.
I saw somebody (local) sat in front of Souness in the photo from the E&S and that gave me a cold sweat.
I saw somebody (local) sat in front of Souness in the photo from the E&S and that gave me a cold sweat.
UEAwolf
10-01-2007, 10:15
Maybe Wolves should act in a similarly professional manner to GS and name the businessman who doesn't want to be named.
Good point.
Would like to see Talksport (which really is a crap radio station) get a representative from the club on to hear the other side.
Good point.
Would like to see Talksport (which really is a crap radio station) get a representative from the club on to hear the other side.
Visage Wolf
10-01-2007, 10:16
Alan Nixon is one of Souness's chums. Its hardly objective journalism.
Bradders
10-01-2007, 10:18
Good point.
Would like to see Talksport (which really is a crap radio station) get a representative from the club on to hear the other side.
They apparantly tried to get Moxey on but he refused.
Would like to see Talksport (which really is a crap radio station) get a representative from the club on to hear the other side.
They apparantly tried to get Moxey on but he refused.
Del Woppio
10-01-2007, 10:21
I find that hard to beleive - he has been on several times in the past. Unless he's bored of saying the same thing over again...
WA Wolf
10-01-2007, 10:35
he says souness's backer is british
What's to say that the "mystery backer" isn't someone associated with a club at the moment and that's why they request anonymity eg. Rangers....
Souness did have a close relationship with the Rangers Chairman who was the person who offered him shares in the club when he became their manager?
Could this be a reason for anonymity? Are their rules from preventing a man running 2 clubs in different countries..
What's to say that the "mystery backer" isn't someone associated with a club at the moment and that's why they request anonymity eg. Rangers....
Souness did have a close relationship with the Rangers Chairman who was the person who offered him shares in the club when he became their manager?
Could this be a reason for anonymity? Are their rules from preventing a man running 2 clubs in different countries..
Jamboon
10-01-2007, 10:39
Doesn't Roman Abramovich owned the Majority share In CSKA Moscow?
paddingtonwolf
10-01-2007, 10:40
organ grinder / monkey thing shows that journo knows absolutely sod-all about buying a British business - see my post on "Other directors" thread.
Taffywolf
10-01-2007, 10:44
GS seems very keen to get Wolves. He can probably see that we are only 2/3 quality players away from the Premiership, He also knows that a premiership team can fill out the Mol every week. The potential is still there at the Mo but another 2/3 seasons of SJH messing about and we wont be such an attraction..
As for Moxey, I cant help but think he is looking after his own job. What's he on a year???
As for Moxey, I cant help but think he is looking after his own job. What's he on a year???
PREM.L.L
10-01-2007, 10:45
It's not that double glazing $$$$er is it?
paddingtonwolf
10-01-2007, 10:48
you buy one, you get one free??????
smallsall?
smallsall?
Nashie
10-01-2007, 10:49
As for Moxey, I cant help but think he is looking after his own job. What's he on a year???
I got shouted down for suggesting that yesterday. It is true he would get a fat payoff but I think the man likes to be in control of a club with very little meddling from the owner.
I got shouted down for suggesting that yesterday. It is true he would get a fat payoff but I think the man likes to be in control of a club with very little meddling from the owner.
scottishwolf II
10-01-2007, 10:50
I find that hard to beleive - he has been on several times in the past. Unless he's bored of saying the same thing over again...
Nightmare interview situation - Jez will just end up looking an idiot on it, with the amount of information he can divulge, and it would also somewhat undermine his point about not conducting their business through the media.
Nightmare interview situation - Jez will just end up looking an idiot on it, with the amount of information he can divulge, and it would also somewhat undermine his point about not conducting their business through the media.
scottishwolf II
10-01-2007, 10:52
I did say yesterday that Souness' comments were alluding to the fact that he views Moxey as the stumbling block. This appears to confirm this.
How? It's SJH who's binned it off by the look of it - see Paddy's thread on directors/board meetings etc.
How? It's SJH who's binned it off by the look of it - see Paddy's thread on directors/board meetings etc.
paddingtonwolf
10-01-2007, 10:53
sort of a bit like getting an invite to defend your stance on Watchdog which has already lynched your product for the last 5 minutes and protrayed you as a total crook with the scruples of a particularly nasty weasel.
you go on - you're trashed
you refuse - they imply you definitely are a crook
to be honest the ducking stool and trial by fire probably had more jurisprudential merit.
you go on - you're trashed
you refuse - they imply you definitely are a crook
to be honest the ducking stool and trial by fire probably had more jurisprudential merit.
Del Woppio
10-01-2007, 10:53
As for Moxey, I cant help but think he is looking after his own job. What's he on a year???
About £350k p/a; though that is not an issue in my view. If let go, he would recieve a hefty pay off, and certainly not struggle for a similarly lucrative role, inside or outside of football.
About £350k p/a; though that is not an issue in my view. If let go, he would recieve a hefty pay off, and certainly not struggle for a similarly lucrative role, inside or outside of football.
Big Mack
10-01-2007, 11:17
About £350k p/a; though that is not an issue in my view. If let go, he would recieve a hefty pay off, and certainly not struggle for a similarly lucrative role, inside or outside of football.
Weren't Villa linked with an offer for him a year or so ago?
Weren't Villa linked with an offer for him a year or so ago?
Del Woppio
10-01-2007, 11:19
Not that I'd heard - be interesting to see who'd negotiate the compensation package!
wolfie smith
10-01-2007, 11:22
mystery backer, moores at liverpool
Del Woppio
10-01-2007, 11:23
Source? Or guess?
wolfie smith
10-01-2007, 11:40
sorry i inadvertantly omitted the question mark, i am so sorry your highness
Del Woppio
10-01-2007, 11:43
No need to get arsey, for some unknown reason I was intrigued by the content of your post, and wanted to understand it. I'll know better next time.
John
10-01-2007, 11:47
he says souness's backer is british
Must be a crook then.
Must be a crook then.
wolfie smith
10-01-2007, 11:53
No need to get arsey, for some unknown reason I was intrigued by the content of your post, and wanted to understand it. I'll know better next time.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Mack http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?p=335812#post335812)
So what's the question, on one hand you want us to nominate who is lying and on the other who is telling the truth. I'm confused! Probably just me, but can you word this better please?
It's not just you, it sums up the thread poster though.
posted by you in response to a poll i posted, what did you mean by that?
as for moores, ive seen it posted on here somewhere that he is waiting for the dubai people to complete and will then have money spare, friend of souness.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Mack http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?p=335812#post335812)
So what's the question, on one hand you want us to nominate who is lying and on the other who is telling the truth. I'm confused! Probably just me, but can you word this better please?
It's not just you, it sums up the thread poster though.
posted by you in response to a poll i posted, what did you mean by that?
as for moores, ive seen it posted on here somewhere that he is waiting for the dubai people to complete and will then have money spare, friend of souness.
Del Woppio
10-01-2007, 11:56
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Mack http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?p=335812#post335812)
So what's the question, on one hand you want us to nominate who is lying and on the other who is telling the truth. I'm confused! Probably just me, but can you word this better please?
It's not just you, it sums up the thread poster though.
posted by you in response to a poll i posted, what did you mean by that?
as for moores, ive seen it posted on here somewhere that he is waiting for the dubai people to complete and will then have money spare, friend of souness.
I meant that most of your posts are the confused ramblings of an idiot, which is why I have disappointed myself by asking for clarification on yet another poorly articulated post.
Originally Posted by Big Mack http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/vb/showthread.php?p=335812#post335812)
So what's the question, on one hand you want us to nominate who is lying and on the other who is telling the truth. I'm confused! Probably just me, but can you word this better please?
It's not just you, it sums up the thread poster though.
posted by you in response to a poll i posted, what did you mean by that?
as for moores, ive seen it posted on here somewhere that he is waiting for the dubai people to complete and will then have money spare, friend of souness.
I meant that most of your posts are the confused ramblings of an idiot, which is why I have disappointed myself by asking for clarification on yet another poorly articulated post.
John
10-01-2007, 11:57
I meant that most of your posts are the confused ramblings of an idiot, which is why I have disappointed myself by asking for clarification on yet another poorly articulated post.
$$$$
$$$$
wolfie smith
10-01-2007, 12:02
I meant that most of your posts are the confused ramblings of an idiot, which is why I have disappointed myself by asking for clarification on yet another poorly articulated post.
ooooooooooh get her, meanwhile every post you make is fantastic, intelligent, always correct and not worthy of us mere mortals. i will never sleep again knowing i am an idiot:rolleyes:
ooooooooooh get her, meanwhile every post you make is fantastic, intelligent, always correct and not worthy of us mere mortals. i will never sleep again knowing i am an idiot:rolleyes:
Mutchy
10-01-2007, 12:03
Don't spoil the thread please guys...
Del Woppio
10-01-2007, 12:07
ooooooooooh get her, meanwhile every post you make is fantastic, intelligent, always correct and not worthy of us mere mortals. i will never sleep again knowing i am an idiot:rolleyes:
I am obviously not consistently fantastic, and I do get things wrong and my speeling is somewhat suspect - however whether or not anybody agrees with the content, 99% of the time it does make sense.
You're obviously a very passionate Wolves fan, and I don't wish to become embroiled in some silly feud - I just like to understand what I am reading; which is not always possible with your posts.
I am obviously not consistently fantastic, and I do get things wrong and my speeling is somewhat suspect - however whether or not anybody agrees with the content, 99% of the time it does make sense.
You're obviously a very passionate Wolves fan, and I don't wish to become embroiled in some silly feud - I just like to understand what I am reading; which is not always possible with your posts.
NathanP100
10-01-2007, 12:20
Doesn't Roman Abramovich owned the Majority share In CSKA Moscow?
He doesnt and officially he never has. Sibneft, the company he sold last year, were the sponsors of CSKA to the tune of £30m a figure significantly larger than any sponsorship deal ever seen in russia. This enabled them to bring talented brasilian youngers like vagner love and daniel carvalho into europe and therefore some people suspected CSKA as being almost a feeder club to chelsea especially following jiri jarosiks cut price move to chelsea. However nothing was proven by a FIFA investigation and abramovich sold sibneft last year with the new owners cancelling the sponsorship deal.
He doesnt and officially he never has. Sibneft, the company he sold last year, were the sponsors of CSKA to the tune of £30m a figure significantly larger than any sponsorship deal ever seen in russia. This enabled them to bring talented brasilian youngers like vagner love and daniel carvalho into europe and therefore some people suspected CSKA as being almost a feeder club to chelsea especially following jiri jarosiks cut price move to chelsea. However nothing was proven by a FIFA investigation and abramovich sold sibneft last year with the new owners cancelling the sponsorship deal.
Nashie
10-01-2007, 12:27
How? It's SJH who's binned it off by the look of it - see Paddy's thread on directors/board meetings etc.
"I was told 'no' by Jez Moxey but the offer still stands. It is Sir Jack's football club and if he chooses not to sell it at this time, that's his prerogative. He can do what he wants."
I read that at the time and still do as being a thinly veiled attack on Moxey. Not SJH.
"I was told 'no' by Jez Moxey but the offer still stands. It is Sir Jack's football club and if he chooses not to sell it at this time, that's his prerogative. He can do what he wants."
I read that at the time and still do as being a thinly veiled attack on Moxey. Not SJH.
Visage Wolf
10-01-2007, 12:32
"It is Sir Jack's football club and if he chooses not to sell it at this time, that's his prerogative. He can do what he wants."
Im sure SJH is very relieved that he has Souness's permission.....
Im sure SJH is very relieved that he has Souness's permission.....
ooh la la
10-01-2007, 12:38
This is a rough outline of what was said...
The talks were more than "$$$$ chat".
Souness was dealing with the man that matters - SJH - NOT an employee of the company - Moxey. "talking to organ grinder not the monkey".
Doesnt' want to disrupt the club or sack MM. Will give funds for players to push for promotion.
Likes MM.
SJH has had his time and it's time for someone fresh.
Was a pretty anti-Moxey chat.
GS & SJH talking figures for one week.
GS DESPERATE to buy the club. It's the right time to buy the club as SJH has had his time and has other interests, i.e. 3 month world cruise.
Pini Zahivi is NOT involved.
Other person is a British businessman who doesn't want to be known at this time.
Wasn't there talk at one time of Virgin and Richard Branson being our sponsors, maybe old Richard is interested in buying a nice football club with all the tradition that needs new direction.
The talks were more than "$$$$ chat".
Souness was dealing with the man that matters - SJH - NOT an employee of the company - Moxey. "talking to organ grinder not the monkey".
Doesnt' want to disrupt the club or sack MM. Will give funds for players to push for promotion.
Likes MM.
SJH has had his time and it's time for someone fresh.
Was a pretty anti-Moxey chat.
GS & SJH talking figures for one week.
GS DESPERATE to buy the club. It's the right time to buy the club as SJH has had his time and has other interests, i.e. 3 month world cruise.
Pini Zahivi is NOT involved.
Other person is a British businessman who doesn't want to be known at this time.
Wasn't there talk at one time of Virgin and Richard Branson being our sponsors, maybe old Richard is interested in buying a nice football club with all the tradition that needs new direction.
RoffeyWolf
10-01-2007, 12:40
Wasn't there talk at one time of Virgin and Richard Branson being our sponsors, maybe old Richard is interested in buying a nice football club with all the tradition that needs new direction.
He wont. Definately.
He wont. Definately.
John
10-01-2007, 12:40
Wasn't there talk at one time of Virgin and Richard Branson being our sponsors, maybe old Richard is interested in buying a nice football club with all the tradition that needs new direction.
HE is someone I'd want less than SJH
HE is someone I'd want less than SJH
Taffywolf
10-01-2007, 12:42
I got shouted down for suggesting that yesterday. It is true he would get a fat payoff but I think the man likes to be in control of a club with very little meddling from the owner.
Moxey is running the club as if it's his own but with none of his own money at stake.. If GS has been talking to SJH for a week, Hayward must of been interested with what he had to say But I can't understand why there is 20 million on the table (what SJH wants) and Moxey has said NO?? Something doesn't seems right to me and until the club make a statement and tell the fans whats going on people are going to be coming to their own conclusions which could be way off the mark...
Moxey is running the club as if it's his own but with none of his own money at stake.. If GS has been talking to SJH for a week, Hayward must of been interested with what he had to say But I can't understand why there is 20 million on the table (what SJH wants) and Moxey has said NO?? Something doesn't seems right to me and until the club make a statement and tell the fans whats going on people are going to be coming to their own conclusions which could be way off the mark...
BlahBlah
10-01-2007, 12:45
Is Sam Hammam British these days?
scottishwolf II
10-01-2007, 12:46
"I was told 'no' by Jez Moxey but the offer still stands. It is Sir Jack's football club and if he chooses not to sell it at this time, that's his prerogative. He can do what he wants."
I read that at the time and still do as being a thinly veiled attack on Moxey. Not SJH.
I would assume from that that SJH told Moxey to tell him its a no. That is the implication of the rest of it.
I read that at the time and still do as being a thinly veiled attack on Moxey. Not SJH.
I would assume from that that SJH told Moxey to tell him its a no. That is the implication of the rest of it.
John
10-01-2007, 12:49
I would assume from that that SJH told Moxey to tell him its a no. That is the implication of the rest of it.
Don't assume, you'll have mr companies house on here telling you that's not how buisness operates(despite this being a buisness with a single owner who does what he wants)
Don't assume, you'll have mr companies house on here telling you that's not how buisness operates(despite this being a buisness with a single owner who does what he wants)
Aylesbury Wolf
10-01-2007, 12:52
At the end of the day, whatever you may think of SJH, he has done a lot for Wolves and the club is obviously still close to his heart and he wants the best for the club. If he doesn't think it is right to sell to Souness then we should respect his decision.
I for one am quite happy to see everything continue as it is for the time being - it's a new era and a refreshing one.
Quite why everyone is so excited at the prospect of an outsider coming in and throwing money at the team to get promoted I don't know. We've been there before and it didn't work!!
I for one am quite happy to see everything continue as it is for the time being - it's a new era and a refreshing one.
Quite why everyone is so excited at the prospect of an outsider coming in and throwing money at the team to get promoted I don't know. We've been there before and it didn't work!!
Visage Wolf
10-01-2007, 12:53
At the end of the day, whatever you may think of SJH, he has done a lot for Wolves and the club is obviously still close to his heart and he wants the bes for the club. If he doesn't think it is right to sell to Souness then we should respect his decision.
I for one am quite happy to see everything continue as it is for the time being - it's a new era and a refreshing one.
Quite why everyone is so excited at the prosepect of an outsider coming in and throwing money at the team to get promoted I don't know. We've been there before and it didn't work!!
Indeed. He saved the club from going extinct, so he can do what he wants, IMO.
I for one am quite happy to see everything continue as it is for the time being - it's a new era and a refreshing one.
Quite why everyone is so excited at the prosepect of an outsider coming in and throwing money at the team to get promoted I don't know. We've been there before and it didn't work!!
Indeed. He saved the club from going extinct, so he can do what he wants, IMO.
scottishwolf II
10-01-2007, 12:54
Moxey is running the club as if it's his own but with none of his own money at stake..
What do you think CEO's should do?
If GS has been talking to SJH for a week, Hayward must of been interested with what he had to say.
Some initial interest. They are in fairly significantly different time zones and it's hardly like they've been talking non-stop 24 hours a day for 7 days. It could have been two calls for all you know - one to say I've got £20m, one to say I'm not sure you have so I'm not interested.
But I can't understand why there is 20 million on the table (what SJH wants)
You don't know what the payment structure of the £20 million was or what any of the implications of the deal were. So you (and I) can't hope to understand whether there was really £20 million or not and whether it was a good route for Wolves.
Moxey has said NO??
Because SJH told him to
Something doesn't seems right to me
You love a bit of drama?
until the club make a statement and tell the fans whats going on people are going to be coming to their own conclusions which could be way off the mark...
Which is exactly what SJH & JM were trying to avoid by not doing this deal in the media. Thereby showing that they in fact were going about things the right way.
Even if they make another statement about it - plenty of people on here will take it to pieces and draw their own conclusions about the implications of every word in that statement. So what's the point? They can save themselves a bit of time not having to approve the statement and just let people draw their own conclusions on what's already out there.
What do you think CEO's should do?
If GS has been talking to SJH for a week, Hayward must of been interested with what he had to say.
Some initial interest. They are in fairly significantly different time zones and it's hardly like they've been talking non-stop 24 hours a day for 7 days. It could have been two calls for all you know - one to say I've got £20m, one to say I'm not sure you have so I'm not interested.
But I can't understand why there is 20 million on the table (what SJH wants)
You don't know what the payment structure of the £20 million was or what any of the implications of the deal were. So you (and I) can't hope to understand whether there was really £20 million or not and whether it was a good route for Wolves.
Moxey has said NO??
Because SJH told him to
Something doesn't seems right to me
You love a bit of drama?
until the club make a statement and tell the fans whats going on people are going to be coming to their own conclusions which could be way off the mark...
Which is exactly what SJH & JM were trying to avoid by not doing this deal in the media. Thereby showing that they in fact were going about things the right way.
Even if they make another statement about it - plenty of people on here will take it to pieces and draw their own conclusions about the implications of every word in that statement. So what's the point? They can save themselves a bit of time not having to approve the statement and just let people draw their own conclusions on what's already out there.
John
10-01-2007, 12:56
Indeed. He saved the club from going extinct, so he can do what he wants, IMO.
Your funny.
And gay.
I think you're Matt Lucas
Your funny.
And gay.
I think you're Matt Lucas
scottishwolf II
10-01-2007, 12:58
Don't assume, you'll have mr companies house on here telling you that's not how buisness operates(despite this being a buisness with a single owner who does what he wants)
I'll assume what I like as mine would seem relatively small (and highly likely) in comparison with the other theories on here which are along similar lines to the Sunday Sport's classic "WWII bomber found on moon."
I'll assume what I like as mine would seem relatively small (and highly likely) in comparison with the other theories on here which are along similar lines to the Sunday Sport's classic "WWII bomber found on moon."
Visage Wolf
10-01-2007, 12:59
Your funny.
My funny what?
My funny what?
John
10-01-2007, 13:00
My funny what?
your funny very
your funny very
Mutchy
10-01-2007, 13:00
My funny what?
Stop it.. we're actually seeing some discussion...
Stop it.. we're actually seeing some discussion...
HIGHLANDER
10-01-2007, 13:02
Indeed. He saved the club from going extinct, so he can do what he wants, IMO.Looking for bites are we?;)
John
10-01-2007, 13:07
Looking for bites are we?;)
Of course.
Of course.
Visage Wolf
10-01-2007, 13:09
Stop it.. we're actually seeing some discussion...
No we're not.
Discussion means considering contradicting points of view. What we're actually seeing is the equivalent of a bunch of kids in the playground with their fingers in their ears going 'Lalalalala....cant hear you', because they disagree with what someone is saying, rather than an adult discussion of the issues at hand.
No we're not.
Discussion means considering contradicting points of view. What we're actually seeing is the equivalent of a bunch of kids in the playground with their fingers in their ears going 'Lalalalala....cant hear you', because they disagree with what someone is saying, rather than an adult discussion of the issues at hand.
Mutchy
10-01-2007, 13:10
No we're not.
Discussion means considering contradicting points of view. What we're actually seeing is the equivalent of a bunch of kids in the playground with their fingers in their ears going 'Lalalalala....cant hear you', because they disagree with what someone is saying, rather than an adult discussion of the issues at hand.
Maybe, but on the whole its being done without too much squabbling, and the thread is generally staying on topic. Its a start...
Discussion means considering contradicting points of view. What we're actually seeing is the equivalent of a bunch of kids in the playground with their fingers in their ears going 'Lalalalala....cant hear you', because they disagree with what someone is saying, rather than an adult discussion of the issues at hand.
Maybe, but on the whole its being done without too much squabbling, and the thread is generally staying on topic. Its a start...
romulus
10-01-2007, 13:15
Stop it.. we're actually seeing some discussion...
A bit unfair Mutchy-Visage made a valid point it did not require the smart answer and Vis has a right to respond.
AND
I would rather have piles than support Vis most of the time!!
A bit unfair Mutchy-Visage made a valid point it did not require the smart answer and Vis has a right to respond.
AND
I would rather have piles than support Vis most of the time!!
Mutchy
10-01-2007, 13:18
None of it was needed Rom. I could have quoted from Vis or John...not singling either of them out, just sick of seeing so many threads go the same way.
John
10-01-2007, 13:18
Visage made a valid point
Pardon, are you on about his usual fishing comment of Sir Jack saved Wolves?
Pardon, are you on about his usual fishing comment of Sir Jack saved Wolves?
John
10-01-2007, 13:19
None of it was needed Rom. I could have quoted from Vis or John...not singling either of them out, just sick of seeing so many threads go the same way.
Understood. Perhaps you could just delete any comments to the effect "Sir Jack saved Wolves". We don't want lies on the message board.
Understood. Perhaps you could just delete any comments to the effect "Sir Jack saved Wolves". We don't want lies on the message board.
wolfyjoe
10-01-2007, 17:20
Fight! Fight! Fight!
