View Full Version : For the attention of club officials (2)
HIGHLANDER
18-11-2006, 15:22
Can i just make this clear, that many of us fans feel short changed by the lack of "investment" in the team this season.
can any who agree please sign this thread, those who dont agree dont post on this thread, it is not for discussion please discuss if you disagree on a separate thread thanks.
HIGHLANDER
18-11-2006, 15:43
Come on Stewarton,Bumbamuffin and Monkwolf e.t.c ffs sign my thread,I didn't have you guys down as being Moxey loving sheep like the others.
Bumbamuffin
18-11-2006, 16:06
Alright,calm down-just got in from the match.
Signed.(as long as you are talking about steady,sensible investment rather than the 'boom-bust' approach).
HIGHLANDER
18-11-2006, 17:35
I see Bod has stuck to his word and has edited out all of those who disagreed with him.
I've just edited out the ones who disagreed with you...
Stewarton Wolf
18-11-2006, 17:37
Totally agree, 5 minutes on the radio and Hayward is wonderful. He talks a good game and delivers little time to go Hayward.
HIGHLANDER
18-11-2006, 17:40
I've just edited out the ones who disagreed with you...What a wonderful late gesture.I see you also edited out my other post which I made at 17.25...I'll accept that maybe you did this accidently as there was no racist or offensive content in my post..
Just to refresh:
My post just illustrates just how unrepresentative Molineux mix is.Many posters on this board are exiles and very rarely go to games and therefore dont share the same opinions or passion of match going supporters.If you asked my question in a Wolverhampton pub I doubt if such a ratio of fans would disagree with me, probably many more would agree with me.
I put my thread up to add a bit of balance to Admistrator Bods thread seeing as he would edit out and not listen to anybody who disagreed with him.It's a shame that posters could not respect my request rather than order.
28th March 1965
18-11-2006, 17:44
Signed...
Bugsy911
18-11-2006, 17:47
Signed ...the club do need some investment and MM cant do much more than he is now whilst his hands are tied behind his back.
Stans the man
18-11-2006, 17:47
Just for the record I would hope that posters don't take either thread as some form of 'hit-list' for later use. Similarly whoever has the greater numbers does not mean that they are necessarily right in what is a subjective point.
What a wonderful late gesture.I see you also edited out my other post which I made at 17.25...I'll accept that maybe you did this accidently as there was no racist or offensive content in my post..
Just to refresh:
My post just illustrates just how unrepresentative Molineux mix is.Many posters on this board are exiles and very rarely go to games and therefore dont share the same opinions or passion of match going supporters.If you asked my question in a Wolverhampton pub I doubt if such a ratio of fans would disagree with me, probably many more would agree with me.
I put my thread up to add a bit of balance to Admistrator Bods thread seeing as he would edit out and not listen to anybody who disagreed with him.It's a shame that posters could not respect my request rather than order.
I removed the posts that stopped your thread running as you requested. The post you refer to was in response to one that I had removed, so it made no sense to leave it there.
HIGHLANDER
18-11-2006, 18:16
For what ever reason, a post that I spent quite some time writing just dissepeared.To set the record straight,I did not request that this post be deleted.
reanswolf
18-11-2006, 18:19
Signed....and I agree that this borad is NOT representative of local fans.
Let me tell you why, I would have signed the other one IF we had seen financial return from the outgoing transfers. SJh mentioned today that regards the Lescott transfer we do not eceive the entire amount immediately, but that does not wash with me, that surely is true for our purchases too then!
I do not expect him to continue to financially back us, but over the last 2-3 years the annual profit has NOT been ploughed back into the club.
For what ever reason, a post that I spent quite some time writing just dissepeared.To set the record straight,I did not request that this post be deleted.
You wanted equal moderation, you got it, but if you want discussion on the thread now thats fine.
HIGHLANDER
18-11-2006, 18:32
Signed....and I agree that this borad is NOT representative of local fans.
Let me tell you why, I would have signed the other one IF we had seen financial return from the outgoing transfers. SJh mentioned today that regards the Lescott transfer we do not eceive the entire amount immediately, but that does not wash with me, that surely is true for our purchases too then!
I do not expect him to continue to financially back us, but over the last 2-3 years the annual profit has NOT been ploughed back into the club.You make a very good point in that, just as we dont receive all the Lescott money at once, we wont have to pay any outgoing transfer fee all at once,as is standard.
If you add up all incomings and out goings and wages saved over the past few years and then are told only x amount is availble for transfers,It's no wonder questions are asked.
HIGHLANDER
18-11-2006, 18:44
You wanted equal moderation, you got it, but if you want discussion on the thread now thats fine.I wouldn't have even started this thread if Bod hadn't openly stated that his thread was only open to those who agreed with him.My thread was just meant to try and balance things out a bit.Some of our less intelligent members couldn't respect this though and told me to $$$$$$ o** to the Albion......
Only one thing will happen to this message board if moderators use their powers to exclude views that they dont agree with.
Black Suit
18-11-2006, 18:45
[QUOTE=reanswolf;316632]Signed....and I agree that this borad is NOT representative of local fans.
You see my Movie Film?
A reluctant signature. I think there's a position somewhere between the two - don't throw good money away yet make wise investments in the team. I don't think McCarthy is a wise investment.
gaz kford
18-11-2006, 19:09
A reluctant signature. I think there's a position somewhere between the two - don't throw good money away yet make wise investments in the team. I don't think McCarthy is a wise investment.
Let's make a 1.5 group somewhere on the fence, is that not what the Yanks did before pearl harbour. :rolleyes:
HIGHLANDER
18-11-2006, 19:19
A reluctant signature. I think there's a position somewhere between the two - don't throw good money away yet make wise investments in the team. I don't think McCarthy is a wise investment.Mark all I ever said was,"I felt short changed by the lack of investment in the team this season". ".I just feel that after selling £7m of talent and slashing the wage bill by millions in the summer,I'm not happy with only £200,000 of this money being reinvested in the team.I know 'limited' funds are going to be made available in January, but I feel that by then that it might be too late.I suppose the next delight to look forward to after that will be our annual cocked up close season.
HIGHLANDER
18-11-2006, 19:21
Let's make a 1.5 group somewhere on the fence, is that not what the Yanks did before pearl harbour. :rolleyes:
Well, at least he is leaning the right way.
I wouldn't have even started this thread if Bod hadn't openly stated that his thread was only open to those who agreed with him.My thread was just meant to try and balance things out a bit.Some of our less intelligent members couldn't respect this though and told me to $$$$$$ o** to the Albion......
Only one thing will happen to this message board if moderators use their powers to exclude views that they dont agree with.
the thread i started was meant to be like a petition. i am glad you put up an opposing one as requested. i can only apologise for not moderating it as i wasnt here and have only just returned. i see that this one has more discussion on it, if you would like any further posts on this thread removed so that it doesnt contain any ot views please pm me so i can ammend it.
Essex Wolf
19-11-2006, 15:02
Signed.
The club needs investment and soon.
SJH could and is in a position to do something about the current situation but chooses not to. If it is because he doesn't want to spend/waste anymore of his own cash fair do's but this latest sale offer should have been done long ago.
Seems because he phones a radio show and says he is interested everything is rosey and okay again.
East Bay Ray
19-11-2006, 15:17
signed
Bend It Like Dennison
20-11-2006, 07:47
Signed. That 'other' thread made me feel ill.
Why is this thread not sticky at the top?
Is only one viewpoint to be visible?
Mind you with the number of threads per day, it could take a while to shift.
Just to refresh:
My post just illustrates just how unrepresentative Molineux mix is.Many posters on this board are exiles and very rarely go to games and therefore dont share the same opinions or passion of match going supporters.
Bull$$$$.
How dare you assume that because most posters disagree with you, they don't go to as many games as you? How dare you claim to be more of a fan because you complain about something you know absolutely nothing about?
Perhaps you'd care not to just take crackpot ideas out of your head to be portrayed as facts? There are a lot of people on this board who do go to games, and a lot of people who don't. People from both sides of the spectrum disagree with you, so just accept that and don't try to make yourself look like the only real fan around here.
reanswolf
20-11-2006, 17:28
Its a free country he can say what he likes. And I agree with him....the majority of local fans have concerns about spending.
Even now, the E & S report that SJh will splash out his own money (in the region of £1m). I thought that was transfer money available that had been generated thru sales!!! ??? A fraction of the £6m generated. No wonder the fans get confused about finances.
'the majority of local fans'
'no wonder the fans get confused'
And what mandate do you have to speak for all local fans, or any fan other than yourself? You can't just pronounce such a judgement, because you clearly don't know for a fact that most fans of Wolves feel short changed by the investment so far (despite - may I add - the fact that it is very difficult to make big money signings when the transfer window is closed!). He has every right (as do both you and I) to say what 'we' believe. However, nobody here has the right to speak for every single fan, or a majority of fans.
And whether we live in a 'free country' (very disputable indeed) or not, that has no bearing on whether any of us would be correct to speak for others on this issue, when clearly the majority is in favour of the other side of the argument.
'the majority of local fans'
'no wonder the fans get confused'
And what mandate do you have to speak for all local fans, or any fan other than yourself? You can't just pronounce such a judgement, because you clearly don't know for a fact that most fans of Wolves feel short changed by the investment so far (despite - may I add - the fact that it is very difficult to make big money signings when the transfer window is closed!). He has every right (as do both you and I) to say what 'we' believe. However, nobody here has the right to speak for every single fan, or a majority of fans.
And whether we live in a 'free country' (very disputable indeed) or not, that has no bearing on whether any of us would be correct to speak for others on this issue, when clearly the majority is in favour of the other side of the argument.
ALERT!! ALERT!! Blood pressure problem, blood pressure problem!!
:eek: :eek: :eek:
reanswolf
21-11-2006, 08:23
Of course we can DJjack, I am perfectly entitled to state what is my genuine opinion from speaking to hundreds of local fans. Because it is an opinion you can make any sweeping generalisations you want, knowing fully well that people are entitled to challenge them.
Get off your high horse and take a chill pill.
signed
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Dissatisfied with level of investment this year and quality/consistency over the last 20 years.
Of course we can DJjack, I am perfectly entitled to state what is my genuine opinion from speaking to hundreds of local fans. Because it is an opinion you can make any sweeping generalisations you want, knowing fully well that people are entitled to challenge them.
Get off your high horse and take a chill pill.
Ah, but if you check the first post of this thread we apparently can't challenge these generalisations. Indeed, I'm sure my challenge will eventually find itself deleted anyway.
I may be on my high horse, but at least I don't claim to speak for people that I don't represent.
Ah, but if you check the first post of this thread we apparently can't challenge these generalisations. Indeed, I'm sure my challenge will eventually find itself deleted anyway.
I may be on my high horse, but at least I don't claim to speak for people that I don't represent.
Get back onto the supporters only thread!
Wivey Wolf
21-11-2006, 14:15
Get back onto the supporters only thread!
Yes - this thread's for non-supporters only! <<<ducks>>>
Yes - this thread's for non-supporters only! <<<ducks>>>
Who are you calling "ducks"? Cheeky sod!
HIGHLANDER
21-11-2006, 20:10
I see that my thread keeps getting hijacked.Wqnky Wolf and the others,if you have something to say please go and post it on Bods thread.
Bumbamuffin
21-11-2006, 20:30
I see that my thread keeps getting hijacked.Wqnky Wolf and the others,if you have something to say please go and post it on Bods thread.
Your thread?!
Excuse me,if it wasn't for the heavyweight whingers like me and Stewarton,you'd have nothing.You even begged us to join in..;)
HIGHLANDER
21-11-2006, 20:56
Your thread?!
Excuse me,if it wasn't for the heavyweight whingers like me and Stewarton,you'd have nothing.You even begged us to join in..;)We just need Adrianmonk now to come along and help us out against the board taliban.I think all the other moaners must have gone off to other boards, judging by the lack of new threads and posts on MM these days.
HazelGroveWolf
21-11-2006, 21:53
'the majority of local fans'
'no wonder the fans get confused'
And what mandate do you have to speak for all local fans, or any fan other than yourself? You can't just pronounce such a judgement, because you clearly don't know for a fact that most fans of Wolves feel short changed by the investment so far (despite - may I add - the fact that it is very difficult to make big money signings when the transfer window is closed!). He has every right (as do both you and I) to say what 'we' believe. However, nobody here has the right to speak for every single fan, or a majority of fans.
And whether we live in a 'free country' (very disputable indeed) or not, that has no bearing on whether any of us would be correct to speak for others on this issue, when clearly the majority is in favour of the other side of the argument.
Spot on. It is quite clear who the 'Purple Loans' crowd are on here.
Bumbamuffin
21-11-2006, 21:59
Spot on. It is quite clear who the 'Purple Loans' crowd are on here.
:D
East Bay Ray
21-11-2006, 23:03
We just need Adrianmonk now to come along and help us out against the board taliban.I think all the other moaners must have gone off to other boards, judging by the lack of new threads and posts on MM these days.
I'm still moaning...
HIGHLANDER
22-11-2006, 21:45
I'm still moaning...Well done Eastbay,sorry I forgot to include you in the hallowed ranks of the heavy weight moaners.:)
When I'm down the Mol,all I seem to hear is moaning (Me included)Come on here though and they are all happy,even when Moxey announces the latest rounds of cutbacks and sprouts all the "young and hungry" $$$$$$.What's that all about,hey?
When I'm down the Mol,all I seem to hear is moaning (Me included)
Congratulations. Do you want a medal?
loopy lupine
23-11-2006, 12:57
12 out of the 46 posts are signing the 'statement'... hardly a major win eh!
I agree with the 1.5 people, there is a case for financial stability but always with an eye for potential major purchases, i.e. Sharpe & Keogh (circa 1million).
But isn't that what we are doing anyway?
Who on here knows what Mick's transfer budget is? He only had a month to actually spend any money because of the silly transfer window, had he gone out and paid real money for Potter and Wheater would we all be moaning now that he's wasted what he had to spend?
Let's see what January brings, and if Mick doesn't sign anyone, then I will presume that there was not anybody out there we could afford that would add benefit to the squad.
Bend It Like Dennison
23-11-2006, 13:41
'the majority of local fans'
'no wonder the fans get confused'
And what mandate do you have to speak for all local fans, or any fan other than yourself? You can't just pronounce such a judgement, because you clearly don't know for a fact that most fans of Wolves feel short changed by the investment so far (despite - may I add - the fact that it is very difficult to make big money signings when the transfer window is closed!). He has every right (as do both you and I) to say what 'we' believe. However, nobody here has the right to speak for every single fan, or a majority of fans.
And whether we live in a 'free country' (very disputable indeed) or not, that has no bearing on whether any of us would be correct to speak for others on this issue, when clearly the majority is in favour of the other side of the argument.
You have the majority on a messageboard mate, a majority made up of posters including 'Timbucktu Wolf', 'Greenland Wolf' & 'Beijing Wolf'. Sure, all probably looks rosey on Wolves World... bargain basement squad, brink of the play offs, nice Yorkshireman as a manager... lovely jubbly you probably all think. The reality is very much different, as the gates clearly prove. 6000 have'nt just disappeared because of price alone.
Spot on. It is quite clear who the 'Purple Loans' crowd are on here.
So you're above having a 'Purple Loan' coz you live in Bedfordshire?? I take it from that smug remark you think everyone on this thread are fake Burberry wearing knuckle draggers from Bilston yes?? And everyone on the other thread are local boys done good, now living down south, making $$$$ loads of money for some Blue Chip company, doing the occassional journey up the M40 in their big shiney BMW X5 to see their shrewdly assembled Wolves side stagger to 1-0 victories over Colchester safe in the knowledge that 'the business is making money'??
Bend It Like Dennison
23-11-2006, 13:44
Let's see what January brings...
Excuse after excuse after excuse. And maybe a Sunderland reserve on a 3 month loan deal if we're lucky.
Deutsch Wolf
23-11-2006, 13:56
Hazel Grove is in Cheshire.
Bend It Like Dennison
23-11-2006, 14:03
Hazel Grove is in Cheshire.
:D Oooops!! I've undone all my good work with my appauling Geography!!
OK replace, Bedfordshire with Cheshire, ''up' with 'down' & the M40 with the M6 & the point is valid.
Visage Wolf
23-11-2006, 14:16
6000 have'nt just disappeared because of price alone.
Indeed. If it was down to price alone then a cut-price ticket offer wouldnt be enough to create a full house.
Hang on......
Bend It Like Dennison
23-11-2006, 14:22
Indeed. If it was down to price alone then a cut-price ticket offer wouldnt be enough to create a full house.
Hang on......
Babum tsch!! Comedy timing perfected again!!
Its a tenner. About what our footballs worth at the minute. £10 is $$$$$$$ all- it would just about get you a sandwich around your neck of the woods.
Visage Wolf
23-11-2006, 14:29
Babum tsch!! Comedy timing perfected again!!
Its a tenner. About what our footballs worth at the minute. £10 is $$$$$$$ all- it would just about get you a sandwich around your neck of the woods.
So it *is* down to prices?
So it *is* down to prices?
No. We charge too much for whats on offer. Either we up the quality or lower the price or attendances will continue to drop.
Visage Wolf
23-11-2006, 15:10
So it *is* down to prices?
No. We charge too much for whats on offer.
So it *isnt* down to prices, but it *is* down to how much we charge?
Compared with other forms of entertainment football is expensive but at it's best it's well worth the money. Sadly, the fare offered at Molineux is far from the best.
Best doesn't have to mean the best players; it means exciting football, played with passion and sometimes with flare. It means watching wolves beating the opposition, not 6-0 thrashings (although one or two a season wouldn't go amiss) but by out-playing them leading to a sense of relief and achievement at full time.
We haven't seen this a the Molineux for sometime, regardless of whether money is being spent or held back, regardless of whether we have an ex-england manager, a promising young one or an old hack. We don't get it with a team of experienced old pros or a team of eager young kids.
Through out all these experiments, there have only been two main constants, the fans and the senior management. Strangely, at different times, both have blamed each other. Which one is right?
So it *isnt* down to prices, but it *is* down to how much we charge?
Correct, it isn't down to price
Visage Wolf
23-11-2006, 15:35
Correct, it isn't down to price
Right...its because we 'charge too much' (your words).
Whats the difference between the price the club sets, and what the club charges?
I suspect that what your blindly scrabbling around for, much like a blind dog in a sewer, is the term 'value for money'.
Its ok - you dont need to thank me.
What would I thank you for, when you've just corrected yourself?
Are you now going to post no more drivel?
RoffeyWolf
23-11-2006, 15:41
Correct, it isn't down to price
You're not doing yourself and favours here...
Visage Wolf
23-11-2006, 15:49
You're not doing yourself and favours here...
I suspect he's attempting to watch the Ashes by digging his way there....
Sadly, the fare offered at Molineux is far from the best.
Best doesn't have to mean the best players; it means exciting football, played with passion and sometimes with flare. It means watching wolves beating the opposition, not 6-0 thrashings (although one or two a season wouldn't go amiss) but by out-playing them leading to a sense of relief and achievement at full time.
This sums it up perfectly!
I want to be entertained and excited. I am neither at them moment.
