Visage Wolf
21-09-2006, 14:47
http://www.wolves.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10307~900744,00.html
View Full Version : He's not interested....
O.W.E.I
21-09-2006, 14:53
...so he's off back to the Bahamas...
SEKOTN
21-09-2006, 15:02
Nah, but then he knows he has seen the best bit of the season. It is all down hill from here...
Citizen Erased
21-09-2006, 15:07
christ, hes looking ancient..
how old is he now?
how old is he now?
wolfan
21-09-2006, 15:08
...so he's off back to the Bahamas...
Got to dodge some tax init.
Got to dodge some tax init.
Midlander
21-09-2006, 15:09
...so he's off back to the Bahamas...
Best place for him.....$$$$$$
Best place for him.....$$$$$$
Bill McCai
21-09-2006, 15:11
Best place for him.....$$$$$$
:o
:o
Wolvesthrunthru
21-09-2006, 15:19
christ, hes looking ancient..
how old is he now?
Was 83 in June
how old is he now?
Was 83 in June
Visage Wolf
21-09-2006, 15:20
...so he's off back to the Bahamas...
...with suitcases full of cash that he's embezzled from the club?
...with suitcases full of cash that he's embezzled from the club?
Visage Wolf
21-09-2006, 15:20
Best place for him.....$$$$$$
*belms*
*belms*
Markwolf
21-09-2006, 15:31
Can an 83 yr old really be called a $$$$$$?
Midlander
21-09-2006, 15:33
Can an 83 yr old really be called a $$$$$$?
Apologies.......senile old $$$$$$ ;)
Apologies.......senile old $$$$$$ ;)
PREM.L.L
21-09-2006, 15:34
Those waiting outside the ground to send him on his way are hacking up greenies as we speak!
Templeton Peck
21-09-2006, 15:41
Probably gone home to spend his own money in any way he sees fit. The $$$$$$$$$$$$!!
Midlander
21-09-2006, 15:44
*belms*
rotflmfao
rotflmfao
wolfan
21-09-2006, 15:48
SJH leaves just as Mandaric resigns from Pompey....
Anyone else getting five?
.
Anyone else getting five?
.
O.W.E.I
21-09-2006, 17:08
Maybe he's found another plane to spend his money on.
He obviously needs to do something with all that cash - especially as he doesn't care about Wolves...
He obviously needs to do something with all that cash - especially as he doesn't care about Wolves...
Black Suit
21-09-2006, 17:11
Best place for him.....$$$$$$
That's uncalled for.
Who are 'we' as he refers in the article.
That's uncalled for.
Who are 'we' as he refers in the article.
wolfan
21-09-2006, 17:11
He obviously needs to do something with all that cash
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Over-13-000-CRAZY-BIZZARE-FREAKY-PICS-VIDS-on-1-DVD_W0QQitemZ250028275425QQihZ015QQcategoryZ1469QQ rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem :confused:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Over-13-000-CRAZY-BIZZARE-FREAKY-PICS-VIDS-on-1-DVD_W0QQitemZ250028275425QQihZ015QQcategoryZ1469QQ rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem :confused:
Bahama Wolf
21-09-2006, 17:15
Best place for him.....$$$$$$
It is actually..its great here...90 degrees at the mo..:p :cool: ;)
It is actually..its great here...90 degrees at the mo..:p :cool: ;)
Big Mack
21-09-2006, 17:37
Nice swipe at previous managers who wouldn't play the youth too. He also says he'll be back to see as many games as he can, which is great for an 83 year old. But don't let that stop some of you having a dig at him.
wolfan
21-09-2006, 17:55
If he was a real fan, then he'd pay his taxes and buy a season ticket. They even do discounts for old people, so no excuse really.
Essex Wolf
21-09-2006, 18:39
Love the comment about losing 11 or 12 players at the start of the season but he feels we are better off for it now.
Who is better of, who exactly, as already asked by BS, is we and does he not realise that some of those lost players may have left because of the new direction the club has taken, a direction taken with him still as owner. As owner of the club I would have thought he would/should know what was going on.
Who is better of, who exactly, as already asked by BS, is we and does he not realise that some of those lost players may have left because of the new direction the club has taken, a direction taken with him still as owner. As owner of the club I would have thought he would/should know what was going on.
Stans the man
21-09-2006, 19:30
I would take that to be his wife.
Or his PA
*cough*
Or his PA
*cough*
stuj4z
21-09-2006, 19:31
ffs get off the guys back. if i was in his position id probably do the same after all the money that has been wasted over the years.
is it something like only 90 days that you can stay in the country, anything over that you have to pay tax?
is it something like only 90 days that you can stay in the country, anything over that you have to pay tax?
Stans the man
21-09-2006, 19:33
Still 90 days yes iirc
SBDJ
21-09-2006, 20:44
Love the comment about losing 11 or 12 players at the start of the season but he feels we are better off for it now.
Who is better of, who exactly, as already asked by BS, is we and does he not realise that some of those lost players may have left because of the new direction the club has taken, a direction taken with him still as owner. As owner of the club I would have thought he would/should know what was going on.
eh ? .............
Who is better of, who exactly, as already asked by BS, is we and does he not realise that some of those lost players may have left because of the new direction the club has taken, a direction taken with him still as owner. As owner of the club I would have thought he would/should know what was going on.
eh ? .............
Essex Wolf
21-09-2006, 20:47
I just read the article and wondered who we is.
SBDJ
21-09-2006, 20:52
Ok, I'll bite ! I took it by "we" he means the club as whole - owners, board members, fans are better off for having cleared the dead wood out. Personally I agree. What was your interpretation ?
Wednesbury Wolf
21-09-2006, 20:55
Can't believe the nasty jibes about SJH.
Prodigal Wolf
21-09-2006, 21:36
Can't believe the nasty jibes about SJH.
After 1,000+ posts, I can only assume you're being ironic.
After 1,000+ posts, I can only assume you're being ironic.
Essex Wolf
22-09-2006, 13:14
Ok, I'll bite ! I took it by "we" he means the club as whole - owners, board members, fans are better off for having cleared the dead wood out. Personally I agree. What was your interpretation ?
Does it matter that much to you?
It's his club so "we" doesn't come into it.
Does it matter that much to you?
It's his club so "we" doesn't come into it.
thaibri2
22-09-2006, 16:20
I am amazed at most of the comments re SJH, obviously you are all newbie Wolves fans and dont know jack $$$$e about what the great man has done for Wolves. Without him we would probably been playing at Aldersley in the Rymans or similar league.
Wivey Wolf
22-09-2006, 16:42
Still 90 days yes iirc
An average of 90 days per year over a period of four tax years, no more than 183 days in any one tax year.
An average of 90 days per year over a period of four tax years, no more than 183 days in any one tax year.
wolfan
22-09-2006, 16:47
I am amazed at most of the comments re SJH, obviously you are all newbie Wolves fans and dont know jack $$$$e about what the great man has done for Wolves. Without him we would probably been playing at Aldersley in the Rymans or similar league.
Or more realistically, be a mid-table Championship team (like when he bought the club) with a modern, redeveloped ground. (like every other club at our level, who haven't had a rich benefactor to rely on). :rolleyes:
Or more realistically, be a mid-table Championship team (like when he bought the club) with a modern, redeveloped ground. (like every other club at our level, who haven't had a rich benefactor to rely on). :rolleyes:
ROVERT47
22-09-2006, 17:11
I am amazed at most of the comments re SJH, obviously you are all newbie Wolves fans and dont know jack $$$$e about what the great man has done for Wolves. Without him we would probably been playing at Aldersley in the Rymans or similar league.
Lets get this straight once and for all,after the Bhattis debacle (B$$$$$$$)Wolverhampton Council,Asda,and a local builder called Gallagher (cant think of is other name)stepped in to save my club.When first Brian Little then Graham Turner managed to get the club back on an even keel,Sir Jack stepped in to take over,as for the popular myth about the money he put into the club,the egg chaser Rick is alleged to have said once "the old man's had every penny back he's put into this club".....
Lets get this straight once and for all,after the Bhattis debacle (B$$$$$$$)Wolverhampton Council,Asda,and a local builder called Gallagher (cant think of is other name)stepped in to save my club.When first Brian Little then Graham Turner managed to get the club back on an even keel,Sir Jack stepped in to take over,as for the popular myth about the money he put into the club,the egg chaser Rick is alleged to have said once "the old man's had every penny back he's put into this club".....
Kenny-11
22-09-2006, 17:14
alleged
Great word.......used to cover up $$$$ rumours.
Great word.......used to cover up $$$$ rumours.
ROVERT47
22-09-2006, 17:22
Great word.......used to cover up $$$$ rumours.
Yeh a bit like Benefactor.
Yeh a bit like Benefactor.
Kenny-11
22-09-2006, 17:23
Yeh a bit like Benefactor.
Not really is it.
Not really is it.
ROVERT47
22-09-2006, 17:26
No not really.;)
Kenny-11
22-09-2006, 17:29
No not really.;)
ooh baffled by the ;) does that mean you are joking!! Man this forum lark is hard to get used to at times.
ooh baffled by the ;) does that mean you are joking!! Man this forum lark is hard to get used to at times.
holloholloway
22-09-2006, 18:29
I met sir jack after the chesterfield match and speaking to him I know he cares about wolves, more than me and most of the rest of you. Cut him some slack will you.
SBDJ
22-09-2006, 18:46
Does it matter that much to you?
It's his club so "we" doesn't come into it.
Not particularly, no, but as this is a discussion board I thought I'd gauge your opinion.
It's his club so "we" doesn't come into it.
Not particularly, no, but as this is a discussion board I thought I'd gauge your opinion.
HIGHLANDER
22-09-2006, 19:15
An average of 90 days per year over a period of four tax years, no more than 183 days in any one tax year.Maybe the reason the old taxdoger buys ancient aircraft and ships for the country is because he is on a guilt trip about the millions that he has deprived our nation of in potential tax.
loopy lupine
22-09-2006, 23:39
SJH cannot win... when he's ploughing millions of (wasted) pounds into buying $$$$e players then he's wasting money, and being a golden tit, when he wants a period of financial stability he doesn't care.....
Who financed the £millions Mark Mghee, Colin Lee, Dave Jones spent before the premiership 'windfall'?
We can debate the 'where's the money gone' till the cows come home, but where did it all come from in the first place.
We've have many good players over SJH years, and many poor ones, but guaranteed most of them cost over £million...
Robert Taylor, Cedric Rousell, Zelko Kalac... 3 players who cost nearly £3million and hardly kicked a ball... who payed for them (and their wages!).
Who financed the rebuilding of the stadium?
When SJH joined we were in the 4th Division, 2 sides of the ground shut and training on a car park, During his reign the stadium has been rebuilt to one of the best in the country and we now have a world class training ground.
Now I'm not saying he's ploughed his own money into all this, but his investment into the club allowed the club to invest in such things instead of paying debtors and loans.
Football is all about opinions and debate, but how anyone can have a go at SJH after all the work he has put into our great club is way beyond me.
Who financed the £millions Mark Mghee, Colin Lee, Dave Jones spent before the premiership 'windfall'?
We can debate the 'where's the money gone' till the cows come home, but where did it all come from in the first place.
We've have many good players over SJH years, and many poor ones, but guaranteed most of them cost over £million...
Robert Taylor, Cedric Rousell, Zelko Kalac... 3 players who cost nearly £3million and hardly kicked a ball... who payed for them (and their wages!).
Who financed the rebuilding of the stadium?
When SJH joined we were in the 4th Division, 2 sides of the ground shut and training on a car park, During his reign the stadium has been rebuilt to one of the best in the country and we now have a world class training ground.
Now I'm not saying he's ploughed his own money into all this, but his investment into the club allowed the club to invest in such things instead of paying debtors and loans.
Football is all about opinions and debate, but how anyone can have a go at SJH after all the work he has put into our great club is way beyond me.
Deutsch Wolf
22-09-2006, 23:44
People have a go at him because of our lack of success on the pitch, which fundamentally has been down to poor management. And yes, SJH had a hand in choosing all those managers. His detractors will have you believe that this makes him a failure and that clubs like Reading and Wigan have the right idea. They ignore the fact that both of those clubs get a large source of income through ground sharing and both have chopped and changed managers alarmingly over the past 10 years. But don't let facts get in the way of a good argument, eh?
loopy lupine
22-09-2006, 23:46
Sorry Forgot to mention the millions spent by Graham Turner (Geoff Thomas, Kevin Keen) and Graham Taylor (Tony 'deadleg' Daley!! amongst others) to add to the long list of wasted money that has been 'invested'
wolfan
22-09-2006, 23:47
During his reign the stadium has been rebuilt to one of the best in the country and we now have a world class training ground.
http://www.shropshire.btinternet.co.uk/smiley/roll.gif
Talk about believing the hype.
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http://www.shropshire.btinternet.co.uk/smiley/roll.gif
Talk about believing the hype.
.
Essex Wolf
24-09-2006, 12:19
Not particularly, no, but as this is a discussion board I thought I'd gauge your opinion.
My opinion doesn't matter does it though?
My views are already known anyway.
My opinion doesn't matter does it though?
My views are already known anyway.
lon chaney jr
24-09-2006, 12:27
I just read the article and wondered who we is.
We is Wolves, innit.
We is Wolves, innit.
EasternWolf
24-09-2006, 12:38
Like you mine doesnt matter either.. but some of you need to cut him a lot of slack as someone else said. He has my support because of what we've achieved off the pitch and the opportunities he has created on it. Sir Jack can only ever be part of hiring an apparently competent manager. It is not down to him if they dont achieve success. Some of you will say he should have given more money ..even more money ... at certain times but other clubs have achieved more on less money. It is clearly not just about buying expensive players unless you can afford the very best expensive players - like Chelsea, Arsenal, Man U etc. Something else approaching success has to take place over a sustained period before you can do that.
As for the embezzlement accusations, why not just get a copy of the accounts and argue on the basis of facts - they are in the public domain.
Sir Jack has also spent a very great deal of money on other things in this country and in his 83 years to date has achieved very much more than any of us.
Some of the Jack the Lads who have posted on this thread may be ignorant - that would be a reasonable excuse, some may be ill mannered generally - that would be a reasonable excuse, some may actually be winding people up - that would a reasonable excuse as well, some may think it is funny - so would that be reasonable, but to believe this stuff? I feel really sorry for those.
As for the embezzlement accusations, why not just get a copy of the accounts and argue on the basis of facts - they are in the public domain.
Sir Jack has also spent a very great deal of money on other things in this country and in his 83 years to date has achieved very much more than any of us.
Some of the Jack the Lads who have posted on this thread may be ignorant - that would be a reasonable excuse, some may be ill mannered generally - that would be a reasonable excuse, some may actually be winding people up - that would a reasonable excuse as well, some may think it is funny - so would that be reasonable, but to believe this stuff? I feel really sorry for those.
SBDJ
24-09-2006, 13:35
My opinion doesn't matter does it though?
Why do you voice it so often then ?
Why do you voice it so often then ?
EasternWolf
24-09-2006, 14:29
Does he do it because this is a Wolves forum and he has some opinions? God that will never do. Shame on you Essex for having an opinion
SBDJ
24-09-2006, 15:31
Does he do it because this is a Wolves forum and he has some opinions? God that will never do. Shame on you Essex for having an opinion
Isn't that pretty much what I said ? If you read the thread you'd realise that He's the one that said his opinion doesn't matter
Isn't that pretty much what I said ? If you read the thread you'd realise that He's the one that said his opinion doesn't matter
HIGHLANDER
24-09-2006, 18:19
When SJH joined we were in the 4th Division, 2 sides of the ground shut and training on a car parkFFS ,another of our supporters that likes to believe the myth about SJH saving the club.Any Wolves fan who knows what they are talking about knows that SJH took over when we were in the same division that we are now in and that it was Wolverhampton council and the Gallaghers who saved the club.
Essex Wolf
24-09-2006, 18:42
Lon chaney jr, we is Wolves innit might seem a tad more applicable if the fans actually had some real say in the clubs running but we don't mate.
SBDJ, strange as it may seem but a chat site forum is where people have their say but it doesn't mean what they say is right or wrong or if it matters or not, it's for people to say their bit. Problem is some on here take things too literally.
EasternWolf, yes mate know what you mean about having an opinion but you should know by now that unless your opinion falls in line with certain posters than it causes all sorts of problems for them with much sarcasm following.
Highlander, well said re above but conveniently this rather important fact is lost to some.There is still a great deal all Wolves fans should thank SJH for but save the club he did not.
SBDJ, strange as it may seem but a chat site forum is where people have their say but it doesn't mean what they say is right or wrong or if it matters or not, it's for people to say their bit. Problem is some on here take things too literally.
EasternWolf, yes mate know what you mean about having an opinion but you should know by now that unless your opinion falls in line with certain posters than it causes all sorts of problems for them with much sarcasm following.
Highlander, well said re above but conveniently this rather important fact is lost to some.There is still a great deal all Wolves fans should thank SJH for but save the club he did not.
Papper
24-09-2006, 18:44
FFS ,another of our supporters that likes to believe the myth about SJH saving the club.Any Wolves fan who knows what they are talking about knows that SJH took over when we were in the same division that we are now in and that it was Wolverhampton council and the Gallaghers who saved the club.
The Gallaghers were interested in Asda and Wolves City Council would never have been forgiven for letting it's greatest ASSET die. Sir Jack was the only one who put money into the club by rebuilding the Molineux and pumping millions of his own money into getting the best manager and players available to us.
The fact is that the stream of managers and players failed to get the club promoted despite coming close and perhaps because of horrific injury lists that didn't help Mcghee and Taylor.
I dont blame him for spending the majority of his time in the Bahamas and who wouldn't. It doesn't mean he's not interested. I'm grateful for what he has done and continues to do.
The Gallaghers were interested in Asda and Wolves City Council would never have been forgiven for letting it's greatest ASSET die. Sir Jack was the only one who put money into the club by rebuilding the Molineux and pumping millions of his own money into getting the best manager and players available to us.
The fact is that the stream of managers and players failed to get the club promoted despite coming close and perhaps because of horrific injury lists that didn't help Mcghee and Taylor.
I dont blame him for spending the majority of his time in the Bahamas and who wouldn't. It doesn't mean he's not interested. I'm grateful for what he has done and continues to do.
one4canel
24-09-2006, 18:49
http://www.wolves.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10307~900744,00.html
only bloke i know to get a knighthood on offshore tax free money, just think how much dollor he would have to cough up if he stayed here ,very brainy person mr hayward .And seeing he has lost all interest with the football club , ie ownership,,, putting in money,, and not having the $$$$$$$$$$$$$ to give jones the dosh to keep us in the prem .. well maybe the bahamas is the right place for mr hayward to stay and count his mi££ions, and watch this space, because if the wobbles did go up this season ,well you tell me where the moneys going to come from,, ie and if you bump in to him sjh that is can you ask him why he payed dave jones a large sum of money to keep his mouth shut ?:mad:
only bloke i know to get a knighthood on offshore tax free money, just think how much dollor he would have to cough up if he stayed here ,very brainy person mr hayward .And seeing he has lost all interest with the football club , ie ownership,,, putting in money,, and not having the $$$$$$$$$$$$$ to give jones the dosh to keep us in the prem .. well maybe the bahamas is the right place for mr hayward to stay and count his mi££ions, and watch this space, because if the wobbles did go up this season ,well you tell me where the moneys going to come from,, ie and if you bump in to him sjh that is can you ask him why he payed dave jones a large sum of money to keep his mouth shut ?:mad:
Mutchy
24-09-2006, 18:50
Lon chaney jr, we is Wolves innit might seem a tad more applicable if the fans actually had some real say in the clubs running but we don't mate.
I'm sure that in saying 'we' Sir Jack meant the club as a whole.. what do you want/expect him to say.. 'I'??
I'm sure that in saying 'we' Sir Jack meant the club as a whole.. what do you want/expect him to say.. 'I'??
Essex Wolf
24-09-2006, 18:51
Point is papper that SJH did not save the club as many like to believe or make out.
Papper
24-09-2006, 18:53
Point is papper that SJH did not save the club as many like to believe or make out.
And Jesus didnt save mankind but he's still respected by many.
And Jesus didnt save mankind but he's still respected by many.
Essex Wolf
24-09-2006, 18:53
I'm sure that in saying 'we' Sir Jack meant the club as a whole.. what do you want/expect him to say.. 'I'??
Yes well erm thanks for that.
Yes well erm thanks for that.
Essex Wolf
24-09-2006, 18:54
And Jesus didnt save mankind but he's still respected by many.
Sport and religion, no don't go there.
Sport and religion, no don't go there.
Mutchy
24-09-2006, 18:55
You have to be pretty desperate to have a go if you want to pick holes in him referring to the club as 'we'...:rolleyes:
Essex Wolf
24-09-2006, 19:00
You have to be pretty desperate to have a go if you want to pick holes in him referring to the club as 'we'...:rolleyes:
Get down of your high horse Mutchy and have a read through the whole thread. Upon doing so you will find the "we" comment was questioned long before I.
Seems you are getting as bad as some of the other poor soles who can't wait for me to post before diving in with a retort.
Get down of your high horse Mutchy and have a read through the whole thread. Upon doing so you will find the "we" comment was questioned long before I.
Seems you are getting as bad as some of the other poor soles who can't wait for me to post before diving in with a retort.
Papper
24-09-2006, 19:02
Sport and religion, no don't go there.
Football IS religion Essex. The blind leading the blind innit.
Football IS religion Essex. The blind leading the blind innit.
Essex Wolf
24-09-2006, 19:06
Football IS religion Essex. The blind leading the blind innit.
Can't disagree there papper, it's certainly a relgion to me but that's a different type to the churchy variety.;)
Can't disagree there papper, it's certainly a relgion to me but that's a different type to the churchy variety.;)
Rudewolf
24-09-2006, 19:09
your the $$$$ing $$$$.......no brain and no balls - just a small man with who wont ever support or contribute to wolverhampton or wolves like SJH has - and he has done it with humility and integrity, neither of which you possess or understand...idiot!!!!!
Papper
24-09-2006, 19:11
Can't disagree there papper, it's certainly a relgion to me but that's a different type to the churchy variety.;)
I think you should give up moaning about Sir Jack for a month and put three Hail Sir Jack's in your siggy. :D ;)
http://www.bluesaders.co.nz/images/brother-lee-love.jpg
I think you should give up moaning about Sir Jack for a month and put three Hail Sir Jack's in your siggy. :D ;)
http://www.bluesaders.co.nz/images/brother-lee-love.jpg
Essex Wolf
24-09-2006, 19:13
I think you should give up moaning about Sir Jack for a month and put three Hail Sir Jack's in your siggy. :D ;)
http://www.bluesaders.co.nz/images/brother-lee-love.jpg
:D
One thing at a time papper.
http://www.bluesaders.co.nz/images/brother-lee-love.jpg
:D
One thing at a time papper.
Mutchy
24-09-2006, 19:15
Get down of your high horse Mutchy and have a read through the whole thread. Upon doing so you will find the "we" comment was questioned long before I.
Seems you are getting as bad as some of the other poor soles who can't wait for me to post before diving in with a retort.
What high horse? Asking what was meant by the 'we' is one thing, criticising him for it another..
And is that really what you think? That anyone who disagrees with you only does so because they're waiting for you to post something they can react to? Dear god.. you want to be free to post your opinions, but it seems very much as though you don't think I should be.
Seems you are getting as bad as some of the other poor soles who can't wait for me to post before diving in with a retort.
What high horse? Asking what was meant by the 'we' is one thing, criticising him for it another..
And is that really what you think? That anyone who disagrees with you only does so because they're waiting for you to post something they can react to? Dear god.. you want to be free to post your opinions, but it seems very much as though you don't think I should be.
Papper
24-09-2006, 19:26
Dear god.. you want to be free to post your opinions, but it seems very much as though you don't think I should be.
Dont take the Lord's name in vain Mutchy ;) :D
Essex shall be delivered amd Mick will lead the lads to the land of milk and honey and hopefully not an opening day sacrifice somewhere like Blackburn.
Dont take the Lord's name in vain Mutchy ;) :D
Essex shall be delivered amd Mick will lead the lads to the land of milk and honey and hopefully not an opening day sacrifice somewhere like Blackburn.
Essex Wolf
24-09-2006, 19:31
Then tell me Mutchy, and be honest, why did you not question the first poster who asked the question re "we"?
Hardly surprising I think as I do when what's good for one is not for another. Another case of MM's double standards.
Hardly surprising I think as I do when what's good for one is not for another. Another case of MM's double standards.
Mutchy
24-09-2006, 19:40
Then tell me Mutchy, and be honest, why did you not question the first poster who asked the question re "we"?
Hardly surprising I think as I do when what's good for one is not for another. Another case of MM's double standards.
Somebody asked what/who was meant by 'we'. You did too, but also said it's Jack's club so there is no 'we'. My point was that it is perfectly natural for him to refer to the club as a whole as 'we'. After all, what are the alternatives.. you? I?
Hardly surprising I think as I do when what's good for one is not for another. Another case of MM's double standards.
Somebody asked what/who was meant by 'we'. You did too, but also said it's Jack's club so there is no 'we'. My point was that it is perfectly natural for him to refer to the club as a whole as 'we'. After all, what are the alternatives.. you? I?
Essex Wolf
24-09-2006, 19:43
Somebody asked what/who was meant by 'we'. You did too, but also said it's Jack's club so there is no 'we'. My point was that it is perfectly natural for him to refer to the club as a whole as 'we'. After all, what are the alternatives.. you? I?
My or mine would be the correct term if your wish to talk about syntax.
My or mine would be the correct term if your wish to talk about syntax.
Mutchy
24-09-2006, 19:48
So where Jack says 'we', he should say my/mine? Doesn't make sense at all.
Essex Wolf
24-09-2006, 19:52
So where Jack says 'we', he should say my/mine? Doesn't make sense at all.
Not a lot he says does anymore but it is his club so the term "we" , seeing as you are now wanting to be so pedantic, is the incorrect word to use.
However whilst you drag this crap out I'm wasting time and I really do want to go out soon. Can't you just drop it now, let me have MY opinion and accept I wasn't having a pop at SJH just asking a question, as had another poster, and that I'd pointed out it is his club which it is.
Not a lot he says does anymore but it is his club so the term "we" , seeing as you are now wanting to be so pedantic, is the incorrect word to use.
However whilst you drag this crap out I'm wasting time and I really do want to go out soon. Can't you just drop it now, let me have MY opinion and accept I wasn't having a pop at SJH just asking a question, as had another poster, and that I'd pointed out it is his club which it is.
Mutchy
24-09-2006, 20:02
Its crap alright.. we agree on that. Have a pleasant evening.:)
SBDJ
24-09-2006, 20:03
SBDJ, strange as it may seem but a chat site forum is where people have their say but it doesn't mean what they say is right or wrong or if it matters or not, it's for people to say their bit. Problem is some on here take things too literally.
I think you'll find that that is what I have been saying. I told you what I thought SJH meant and then I merely asked you for your interpretation of what SJH had said. Funny, you always seem happy to give an opinion and then when I specifically ask what yours is you go all coy and shy !
I think you'll find that that is what I have been saying. I told you what I thought SJH meant and then I merely asked you for your interpretation of what SJH had said. Funny, you always seem happy to give an opinion and then when I specifically ask what yours is you go all coy and shy !
Colin Swedewolf
24-09-2006, 20:12
West Bromwich Albion saved Wolverhampton Wanderers
Deutsch Wolf
24-09-2006, 20:14
Don't you mean A****n?
Colin Swedewolf
24-09-2006, 20:15
It would seem the swear filter doesn't work for me.
MickMac
24-09-2006, 21:50
Can't believe the nasty jibes about SJH.
Don't worry WW, this lot are aptly summed up by that word chanted by the crowd at the ref on Saturday..... rhymes with "tanker". ;)
Don't worry WW, this lot are aptly summed up by that word chanted by the crowd at the ref on Saturday..... rhymes with "tanker". ;)
Fickleasfolk
24-09-2006, 21:56
I met sir jack after the chesterfield match and speaking to him I know he cares about wolves, more than me and most of the rest of you. Cut him some slack will you.
Plenty of people have spoken to S.J. and he is a very charming bloke but what did he say for you to form the opinion that he cares more about the Wolves than me or the rest?:confused:
This is not a dig at S.J. it's to do with a sweeping statement by you based on probably a 30 second chat with a man who will always give you the time of day.
Plenty of people have spoken to S.J. and he is a very charming bloke but what did he say for you to form the opinion that he cares more about the Wolves than me or the rest?:confused:
This is not a dig at S.J. it's to do with a sweeping statement by you based on probably a 30 second chat with a man who will always give you the time of day.
lon chaney jr
24-09-2006, 23:54
Lon chaney jr, we is Wolves innit might seem a tad more applicable if the fans actually had some real say in the clubs running but we don't mate.
I was making a joke about your use of 'is' and 'we' together like that sounding like colloquial grammar.
I was making a joke about your use of 'is' and 'we' together like that sounding like colloquial grammar.
holloholloway
25-09-2006, 00:21
I've met him three times in all and i could tell by speaking to him that he really cares so much for the wolves.
