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Mutchy
06-08-2005, 14:53
Great going!smileys/smiley20.gifsmileys/smiley32.gif

wolf of sedgley
06-08-2005, 14:55
He has rinsed them, getting 3.3m! No one else would pay that much money for the clown!

Grizzled Wolf
06-08-2005, 14:56
Great going!smileys/smiley20.gifsmileys/smiley32.gif


I'll thank him when he buys two or three top drawer players with the proceeds!

Rogsman
06-08-2005, 14:56
Well done Jez, i think even your Haters will like you at the moment smileys/smiley36.gif

Papa
06-08-2005, 15:00
God forbid we make a bad start to the season and you can rest assured Moxey and SJH will become the 'Great Satan's' again.


Just hope the players are up for it this season and get out the blocks quicker than the rest.

EasternWolf
06-08-2005, 15:01
I really cannot see how anyone can be unhappy with Jez Moxey.


Griz, I cant see any reason for denying him praise for getting a good profit from Camara. I am sure everyone would like 3 top notch players for £3M, but I dont think we need them. Just one central midfielder would satisfy me.

chickie
06-08-2005, 15:04
What a great job of negotiating Jez has done. Cannot believe we got such a fee! smileys/smiley32.gif

Grizzled Wolf
06-08-2005, 15:06
I really cannot see how anyone can be unhappy with Jez Moxey.


Griz, I cant see any reason for denying him praise for getting a good profit from Camara. I am sure everyone would like 3 top notch players for £3M, but I dont think we need them. Just one central midfielder would satisfy me.





I am not denying Jez anything.. he did well...I just want to see Hoddle and the team getting the benefits. Cash at the Mol has a bad habit of disapearing like spring snow.

Guests
06-08-2005, 15:07
Great going!smileys/smiley20.gifsmileys/smiley32.gif


I'll thank him when he buys two or three top drawer players with the proceeds!



Me too. 5-6M should be available now if you take into account the two
1M bids we have lodged with two PL teams that haven't come off (yet)

Rogsman
06-08-2005, 15:11
I really cannot see how anyone can be unhappy with Jez Moxey.


Griz, I cant see any reason for denying him praise for getting a good profit from Camara. I am sure everyone would like 3 top notch players for £3M, but I dont think we need them. Just one central midfielder would satisfy me.





I am not denying Jez anything.. he did well...I just want to see Hoddle and the team getting the benefits. Cash at the Mol has a bad habit of disapearing like spring snow.





Not wrong there smileys/smiley19.gif

SSW
06-08-2005, 15:12
Perhaps now we can concentrate on bringing players IN, we don't seem to
have a problem getting players OUT. It's time we made sure our focus
was on the field of play rather than the bank balance.



I'm very surprised we got as much as we did for Camara, Moxey must take
a great degree of credit for that. But it will be no good if we just
tread water in the middle of the division next season.



It now has to be 'all systems go' on strengthening our thin squad.

Grizzled Wolf
06-08-2005, 15:15
Perhaps now we can concentrate on bringing players IN, we don't seem to have a problem getting players OUT. It's time we made sure our focus was on the field of play rather than the bank balance.

I'm very surprised we got as much as we did for Camara, Moxey must take a great degree of credit for that. But it will be no good if we just tread water in the middle of the division next season.

It now has to be 'all systems go' on strengthening our thin squad.



Well said that man!! smileys/smiley32.gif

Guests
06-08-2005, 16:03
excellent work moxey,

Bankswolf II
06-08-2005, 16:05
Booo Moxey dont you realise how important he is to the team.....

Black Suit
06-08-2005, 16:08
I really cannot see how anyone can be unhappy with Jez Moxey.


Griz, I cant see any reason for denying him praise for getting a good profit from Camara. I am sure everyone would like 3 top notch players for £3M, but I dont think we need them. Just one central midfielder would satisfy me.





'Ere, 'ere, Wigan were absolutely desperate, nowt to do with the negotiation.


Well done Willie, rot in hell you git, wish you were my agent.Edited by: Black Suit

Mutchy
06-08-2005, 16:12
'Ere, 'ere, Wigan were absolutely desperate, nowt to do with the negotiation.





Right.... and wrong...smileys/smiley17.gif

chickie
06-08-2005, 16:13
'Ere, 'ere, Wigan were absolutely desperate, nowt to do with the negotiation.





Right.... and wrong...smileys/smiley17.gif







Yup.

Guests
06-08-2005, 16:17
Credit where credit's due - well done Pillsbury.


Now I must echo the sentiments of SSW - STRENGTHEN!!!

Gio Pippinardi
06-08-2005, 16:23
Bring Idiakez IN now...and we are ready for the championship's 1st place.smileys/smiley4.gif

Black Suit
06-08-2005, 16:27
Chickie,


Why have you heard his war stories about how he cornered the Wigan board into submission. smileys/smiley9.gif


WHATEVER. smileys/smiley2.gif


Only credit due is for the fact that he recognised that they had boasted about having £25m to spend and haven't been able to spend it. Very clever? The Chairman was very foolish to announce the fact, taking candy off a baby really. I bet Jezebel has had tougher negotiations this summer.smileys/smiley5.gif


Hardly a tough negotiation in the true light of day.

Winelord
06-08-2005, 16:31
Cheers Jez. What an unexpectedly happy ending to a sorry saga.

Mutchy
06-08-2005, 16:36
Chickie,


Why have you heard his war stories about how he cornered the Wigan board into submission. smileys/smiley9.gif


WHATEVER. smileys/smiley2.gif


Only credit due is for the fact that he recognised that they had boasted about having £25m to spend and haven't been able to spend it. Very clever? The Chairman was very foolish to announce the fact, taking candy off a baby really. I bet Jezebel has had tougher negotiations this summer.smileys/smiley5.gif


Hardly a tough negotiation in the true light of day.





You lose!smileys/smiley17.gif

lostinbristol
06-08-2005, 16:36
Indeed a great bit of business pulled off Mr Moxeysmileys/smiley32.gif

holloholloway
06-08-2005, 16:43
and we've got him off the wage bill too. 14k was a lot to pay per week if it's true that is what he was on.

Eddie Catflap
06-08-2005, 16:48
Wigan must be desperate. It's a ludicrous purchase. Unless it works out for them of course which will make it a great purchase. Can't see it though...

arooooo
06-08-2005, 17:01
Only credit due is for the fact that he recognised that they had boasted about having �25m to spend and haven't been able to spend it. Very clever? The Chairman was very foolish to announce the fact, taking candy off a baby really. I bet Jezebel has had tougher negotiations this summer

Hardly a tough negotiation in the true light of day.
Black Suit, you have no idea.
Gobs and gobs of credit to Jez on this one!

p.s. went to log on to Wolves World, got banner ad: "Cheap calls to Africa on your mobile" .. heh.Edited by: arooooo

Eddie Catflap
06-08-2005, 17:09
we don't seem to have a problem getting players OUT


Yep, Wolveshad hadno problem getting rid of Camara.

Oldgold Wolfcub
06-08-2005, 17:32
Wigan must be desperate. It's a ludicrous
purchase. Unless it works out for them of course which will make it a
great purchase. Can't see it though...

Edward could you wait until after Monday before you let Wigan know about this.smileys/smiley24.gif

Black Suit
06-08-2005, 19:31
Chickie,


Why have you heard his war stories about how he cornered the Wigan board into submission. smileys/smiley9.gif


WHATEVER. smileys/smiley2.gif


Only credit due is for the fact that he recognised that they had boasted about having £25m to spend and haven't been able to spend it. Very clever? The Chairman was very foolish to announce the fact, taking candy off a baby really. I bet Jezebel has had tougher negotiations this summer.smileys/smiley5.gif


Hardly a tough negotiation in the true light of day.





You lose!smileys/smiley17.gif








Chickie, (I preferred the old spelling!)


I've lost what? smileys/smiley36.gif


Convince me, please.

Black Suit
06-08-2005, 19:39
Only credit due is for the fact that he recognised that they had boasted about having �25m to spend and haven't been able to spend it. Very clever? The Chairman was very foolish to announce the fact, taking candy off a baby really. I bet Jezebel has had tougher negotiations this summer

Hardly a tough negotiation in the true light of day.
Black Suit, you have no idea.
Gobs and gobs of credit to Jez on this one!

p.s. went to log on to Wolves World, got banner ad: "Cheap calls to Africa on your mobile" .. heh.


Aroo,


Please tell me more, I've had two explanations so far and they have been so far fetched!


Jeremy is a lucky boy, that:


1. WAFC were desperate


2. Boasted about the funding


3. Fans were putting the board under pressure.


Tell me more about the cheap calls to Africa. smileys/smiley36.gifsmileys/smiley2.gif

Stan Cutlass
06-08-2005, 19:49
Bye Henri, can I have your Von Dutch hat?


Second thoughts, give it to Jez.

peckhamwolf
06-08-2005, 19:49
Great going!smileys/smiley20.gifsmileys/smiley32.gif


I'll thank him when he buys two or three top drawer players with the proceeds!

Me too. 5-6M should be available now if you take into account the two
1M bids we have lodged with two PL teams that haven't come off (yet)




reference your signature, whatsa matter with you? I think your brain's goin' soft ...never tell anybody outside the family what you're thinking again.

Ashley
06-08-2005, 20:00
Well done Jez. Give Glenn the money and get some extra quality in. Played well today but a extra bit of class here and there and we'll have a very good team for the challenge ahead.

D.A.A.
06-08-2005, 20:08
I thought we'd be lucky to get £2M for the arrogant swine. Fatty'sdug his heels in and played his hand very well, again.

SOA Wolf
06-08-2005, 20:11
Even I have to admit that Moxey has done well to get shot of HC for over £3m and reduce the wage bill. I can only think he must have sent the tapes of the goals against Everton and the like followed up by an e-mail telling the Wigan board how misunderstood poor Henri is and how he just needs some TLC to become African Footballer of the Year....and that the nasty people in Wolverhampton never gave him a chance....citing Ulven as the witness of how foul people were to him.smileys/smiley2.gif

Sparky
06-08-2005, 20:15
Yes, well done Jez for doing your job. Now for a few players in before the end of the month - then I might even send you a thank-you card.

LIQ IV
06-08-2005, 21:47
What a pathetic response sparky. And where were the people talking about wigans warchest when they announced it 2 months ago? Seeingwolves fansgo out of their way not to praise (rather than showing some class and saying nothing) the club for getting the very best out of a ugly situation is shocking.


IMO this isthe best bit of (outgoing) transfer business this club has ever been involved in, getting £4.7m for Camarat in the last two seasons is amazing, the fact that £3m+ of it came after the season he had last year makes it even better.


The fact we did it without allowing that **** to wear a wolves shirt again makes it all the more sweeter, I think everyone involved in this (inc DJ) has played a blinder and the result is better than we could have hoped for.


I love JJB sports.Edited by: LIQ IV

Sparky
06-08-2005, 22:22
How was it pathetic? His job was to get the best possible fee - and he did that, well done.

Maybe I sounded a bit sarcastic, but the sarcasm was towards getting players in. The pre-season transfer activity has been focused on Camara leaving, like it was last season. Maybe now he's gone the two players who we had seven figure bids for will start to get moving. Perhaps these two bids were dependant on Camara leaving, but who knows.

D.A.A.
06-08-2005, 22:34
How was it pathetic? His job was to get the best possible fee - and he did that, well done.

Maybe I sounded a bit sarcastic, but the sarcasm was towards getting players in. The pre-season transfer activity has been focused on Camara leaving, like it was last season. Maybe now he's gone the two players who we had seven figure bids for will start to get moving. Perhaps these two bids were dependant on Camara leaving, but who knows.


This is the bit I can't get my head around.


Are you saying that now we'vegot some money for the rat,we shouldincrease our bids, or offer more lucrativewagesforplayersthat we don't even know the identity of?

wolf of sedgley
06-08-2005, 23:02
If someone does their job well you praise them. Jez gets plenty of
stick when things arn't going well, so when he does something good then
why shouldn't he get praise. I would have excepted £2m for the rastad
but jez swindled 3.3m out of them- well done jez!

HazelGroveWolf
06-08-2005, 23:03
Even I have to admit that Moxey has done well


Whooasmileys/smiley4.gif.

HazelGroveWolf
06-08-2005, 23:06
Just testing the new sig.smileys/smiley1.gif

SOA Wolf
06-08-2005, 23:09
Don't milk it HGW, you know the phrase the exception proves the rule.smileys/smiley2.gif

SSW
06-08-2005, 23:11
We have done well to get £3m for Camara but let's not get carried away.
As has been said already, Wigan broadcast to the nation that they would
spend big money this summer and it was widely predicted that a newly
promoted side would come in for the Rat.



Also, Wigan offered £4m for Jagielka who's a centrehalf and something like £7m for Scott Parker.



Credit where it's due - we have done well financially out of Camara,
but the hard work starts NOW trying to get the right players in to help
get us up. If Jez Moxey can negotiate a few more deals like the Jackie
Mac one he'll deserve unstinting praise. It's probably a lot more
difficult to bring in players than offloading over-rated primadonnas to
desperate clubs, but that's where Moxey and Hoddle will have to earn
their substantial corn.

SOA Wolf
06-08-2005, 23:12
spot on SSW

HazelGroveWolf
06-08-2005, 23:28
It's probably a lot more difficult to bring in players than offloading over-rated primadonnas to desperate clubs, but that's where Moxey and Hoddle will have to earn their substantial corn.



I reckon they will earn their corn if they can keep a few quid under themattress and still get us promoted. That would send the right message - top club, top management, right ambitions and OK supporterssmileys/smiley2.gif.

SSW
06-08-2005, 23:38
I reckon they will earn their corn if they can
keep a few quid under themattress and still get us
promoted.

Quite right. Let's bring in our primary targets now, then go down to
the lower leagues to pick up the best emerging rough diamonds. That way
we'd keep the bulk of the money to spend in January if necessary.

Vic the Greek
07-08-2005, 00:31
Moxey presumably only acts on instructions from Hoddle.


Full praise to Moxey for maximising all sales values.


Why is there an udercurrent insinutaing that Moxey ids not bringing the best playerssmileys/smiley3.gif

Black Suit
07-08-2005, 06:38
We have done well to get £3m for Camara but let's not get carried away. As has been said already, Wigan broadcast to the nation that they would spend big money this summer and it was widely predicted that a newly promoted side would come in for the Rat.

Also, Wigan offered £4m for Jagielka who's a centrehalf and something like £7m for Scott Parker.

Credit where it's due - we have done well financially out of Camara, but the hard work starts NOW trying to get the right players in to help get us up. If Jez Moxey can negotiate a few more deals like the Jackie Mac one he'll deserve unstinting praise. It's probably a lot more difficult to bring in players than offloading over-rated primadonnas to desperate clubs, but that's where Moxey and Hoddle will have to earn their substantial corn.



Totally agree mate. The biggest hurdle seemed to be personal terms and NOT the fee which was stumped up readily. Loads of cash and nowhere to spend it.

Essex Wolf
07-08-2005, 08:47
Back on the subject of the original theme of this post I agree it's an excellant piece of work by Moxey and as someone has already said hopefully it will keep some of his back a while.

Jack Bauer
07-08-2005, 10:28
I really cannot see how anyone can be unhappy with Jez Moxey.


Griz, I cant see any reason for denying him praise for getting a good profit from Camara. I am sure everyone would like 3 top notch players for £3M, but I dont think we need them. Just one central midfielder would satisfy me.





I am not denying Jez anything.. he did well...I just want to see Hoddle and the team getting the benefits. Cash at the Mol has a bad habit of disapearing like spring snow.








Not this old chestnut again, tell me what money has disappeared? And back that up with some facts. We have invested more money in the team in the last ten years that any other club at our level.

Essex Wolf
07-08-2005, 10:36
JB, this old issue pops up every so often and I don't think it will ever go away fully unless one day SJH suddenly decided to show people his accounts, somehow can't see that happening.

Jack Bauer
07-08-2005, 10:43
JB, this old issue pops up every so often and I don't think it will ever go away fully unless one day SJH suddenly decided to show people his accounts, somehow can't see that happening.








Wolves accounts are fully available and show no such thing has happened. I can't believe people still make comments like 'We've got the 7m parachute money to spend'.

Essex Wolf
07-08-2005, 10:48
JB, dodgy ground this mate and accounts can be made to look however you want them too I'm sure.


The fans are aware of the parachute money but I accept that the club would not spend it all just on player signings.


However with the sale of Camara and fact the club have already said they have two large bids tabled then I would both hope and imagine that GH has a decent sum to play with now because if not people will be asking questions all the more.

Jack Bauer
07-08-2005, 10:49
JB, dodgy ground this mate and accounts can be made to look however you want them too I'm sure.


The fans are aware of the parachute money but I accept that the club would not spend it all just on player signings.


However with the sale of Camara and fact the club have already said they have two large bids tabled then I would both hope and imagine that GH has a decent sum to play with now because if not people will be asking questions all the more.





I agree that we've now got lots to spend, but people are jumping on Moxeys back after he's just pulled off the second best deal in the history of the club. The first being the £5m Moxey got for Akinbiyi.

kford wolf
07-08-2005, 10:52
JB, dodgy ground this mate and accounts can be made to look however you want them too I'm sure.





Another comment about the clubs / SJH's accounts??

Jack Bauer
07-08-2005, 10:55
JB, dodgy ground this mate and accounts can be made to look however you want them too I'm sure.





Another comment about the clubs / SJH's accounts??





Can Essex kill another forum?smileys/smiley36.gif

Essex Wolf
07-08-2005, 10:55
You certainly won't find me ever slating Moxey JB as I have backed the bloke more often than not since he has been at Molineux. Even when some were having a whinge about his wages I still backed the bloke for the most part because he saves us far far more than he has ever cost us.


To me he is good at his job but is in the sort of position where he is an easy target.


This latest Camara deal is excellent work as Wolves paid £1.5 million and have made well over £3 million profit on him.

Essex Wolf
07-08-2005, 10:56
JB, dodgy ground this mate and accounts can be made to look however you want them too I'm sure.





Another comment about the clubs / SJH's accounts??





That's why I'm saying very little on the matter.smileys/smiley1.gif

Jack Bauer
07-08-2005, 10:58
You certainly won't find me ever slating Moxey JB as I have backed the bloke more often than not since he has been at Molineux. Even when some were having a whinge about his wages I still backed the bloke for the most part because he saves us far far more than he has ever cost us.


To me he is good at his job but is in the sort of position where he is an easy target.


This latest Camara deal is excellent work as Wolves paid £1.5 million and have made well over £3 million profit on him.





It might help if all these Moxey haters had had the same chat with Sir Jack about Moxey as I have. Although most of them probably hate Sir Jack as well.

Essex Wolf
07-08-2005, 11:03
I would hope no one hates SJH as that would not only be a great shame but totally uncalled for. I have howeverin the past questioned his decisions I must admit.

kford wolf
07-08-2005, 11:04
It might help if all these Moxey haters had had the same chat with Sir Jack about Moxey as I have. Although most of them probably hate Sir Jack as well.


I've got to say I'm a big fan of JM now.


Last season I did go off him but he's anastute business man and with him we can only be on the up.

Jack Bauer
07-08-2005, 11:06
It might help if all these Moxey haters had had the same chat with Sir Jack about Moxey as I have. Although most of them probably hate Sir Jack as well.


I've got to say I'm a big fan of JM now.


Last season I did go off him but he's anastute business man and with him we can only be on the up.





I think a lot of people would rather we had John Richards in charge still, just because he is an ex-player.

Essex Wolf
07-08-2005, 11:24
Only my opinion here but to me JR was as poor a CEO as he was great player for the club.


As a player I have many great and fond memories of JR but not as CEO.

Jack Bauer
07-08-2005, 11:27
Only my opinion here but to me JR was as poor a CEO as he was great player for the club.


As a player I have many great and fond memories of JR but not as CEO.





Exactly, I can't imagine JM not putting a sell on clause in Robbie Keane's deal.

Essex Wolf
07-08-2005, 11:29
To me JB that was possibly his biggest mistake. There is often talk about why there wasn't a sell on clause but I'm 99.9% certain JM would have made sure there was one.

Jack Bauer
07-08-2005, 11:31
To me JB that was possibly his biggest mistake. There is often talk about why there wasn't a sell on clause but I'm 99.9% certain JM would have made sure there was one.


He even gotone for Akinbiyi, as if anyone was gonna pay more than £5m for him.smileys/smiley36.gif

Essex Wolf
07-08-2005, 11:33
Possibly his best performance even to this day.

SOA Wolf
07-08-2005, 14:12
It might help if all these Moxey haters had had the same chat with Sir Jack about Moxey as I have. Although most of them probably hate Sir Jack as well.


JB, I have had a long chat with SJH about JM and it still did not change my opinion, this has been formed by several other factors, that I will not bother going through....again!! As for SJH, I have stated many times on here that I believe him to be one of the true gentlemen of the world, a true Wolves fan, straight talking and a nice bloke.

Oldgold Wolfcub
07-08-2005, 14:21
Only my opinion here but to me JR was as poor a CEO as he was great player for the club.


As a player I have many great and fond memories of JR but not as CEO.

I feel it was like playing Richards out of position in the team. I am
sure he would have had a good impact on the Board but not doing the
tasks he was asked to do. Given what happened to him he obviously had
no choice but to go but if JM had been here before and JR was asked to
join the Board things may have been very different. Oh how we cry out
for someone on the Board who knows football.

basher
07-08-2005, 18:59
Essex

I think any opinions you have about the clubs accounts/money matters
should be left unsaid!! You've already closed down one message board!!
smileys/smiley2.gif

Fair play to Moxey on this one, best mugging his done since he pulled the
wool over Leicester's eyes and robbed them of £5mil for Akinbiyi!!

As for that "Urban Myth" regarding money disappearing at the Mol, what
total $$$$$$$$!! We were one of the biggest spenders last season in the
CCC, check the facts!

Black Suit
07-08-2005, 19:04
You certainly won't find me ever slating Moxey JB as I have backed the bloke more often than not since he has been at Molineux. Even when some were having a whinge about his wages I still backed the bloke for the most part because he saves us far far more than he has ever cost us.


To me he is good at his job but is in the sort of position where he is an easy target.


This latest Camara deal is excellent work as Wolves paid £1.5 million and have made well over £3 million profit on him.





It might help if all these Moxey haters had had the same chat with Sir Jack about Moxey as I have. Although most of them probably hate Sir Jack as well.





No mate, I don't.

Black Suit
07-08-2005, 19:05
Only my opinion here but to me JR was as poor a CEO as he was great player for the club.


As a player I have many great and fond memories of JR but not as CEO.





Exactly, I can't imagine JM not putting a sell on clause in Robbie Keane's deal.





I can't imagine JR would now.

Black Suit
07-08-2005, 19:13
As CEO of this club we adore, he has overseen some woeful business strategies, transactions and policies. I hope DJ is interviewed soon, so that he can blow the lid off Moxey's 'holier than thou' stance.

DJ and his team created a wish list of players they wanted to sign, for 'he of the pie' to go and negotiate terms. So essentially, it JM himself that overspent as DJ was never allowed to negotiate fees and salaries. I would also like to know a little more about who was on the wish list versus who we actually signed, as the wrong mix from that wish list could be disastrous - like missing a key ingredient from a recipe.

BTW, I certainly do not lay all the blame at JM's door here, but after 26/5 as the summer went on, I bet DJ was almost grateful just to see any new faces at all. There has been public recognition about the lack of support two years ago, moreso from SJH and Rick (one R5 Live interview in particular). Without the budget to spend at that time, DJ had to look at the bargain 'Bosmans' until the paying public got restless and suddenly we managed to panic buy another overpriced 'star'.

Then of course he oversaw the exodus of players who were frustrated at the Contract Negotiations being left to the close season. Negotiations could have taken which division we were going to be in, into consideration. Instead we lost some players very cheaply indeed, with the false economy of 'cutting our cloth' when we had to pay transfer fees for their replacements!

The way he has endeared himself to the supporters is stunning. I realise that there are supporters across the whole <?:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><ST1:COUNTRY-REGIoN w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE w:st="on">UK</ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGIoN> that criticise their board, but as CEO he runs the ship, if he doesn't he is not CEO. He will point to sound decisions that have raised money for the club, like the premium rate ticket hotlines, the sponsorships, the kit (quality and brand, let alone a shocking design, peeling logos etc).

Le Coq Sportif is a brand that enjoyed it's peak many moons ago, it is permanently on the '<ST1:PLACE w:st="on"><ST1:CITY w:st="on">Sale</ST1:CITY></ST1:PLACE>' racks at JJB. <?:namespace prefix = v ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" /></V:IMAGE></V:SHAPE>
One of the more popular brands; Nike, Adidas, moreso than Umbro, would probably have lead to more replica sales albeit on a lower margin - especially on the training wear side, tracksuits, rainjackets, boots and trainers even! The supporters were given a choice of the design of the shirt, and there was a clear winner - the actual shirt bears little resemblance really due to the amount of black material, though the blue away shirt does. Design is important - the gold shirt is poor, bland.

The tat in the club shop is embarrassing at times, the quality and value for money for the Christmas stocking fillers should have found themselves onto BBC1's Watchdog!

The protracted recruitment campaign that lead to Hoddle being appointed - another farce! Especially with the 6 month contract, wanted by Hoddle so I understand, a sign of desperation as several targets turned Wolves down. He is the boss, he has to take the blame, even if DJ failed in his role towards the end Moxey is the boss

SOA Wolf
07-08-2005, 19:21
Great post Black Suit... like you I find it amazing at the short term memories of people, it is like being surrounded by goldfish....I suppose the colour is correct at least.


It is true we will not know all the issues that go on behind closed doors, but some of the problems that we have had have are not all down to DJ...there has been a CEO in charge of several managers, but the buck has always seemed to have stopped well before him.

Grizzled Wolf
07-08-2005, 19:22
Ok! lets clear this up right away...first of all I am one of Moxeys long time supporters..even when a lot of fans on here were turning against him, I supported him and still do. He is there to do a job and he does it very well!


Next..when I say that money has a way of disappearing..the first thing that some people think is that there is a hand in the till. This is not what I meant at all!!!!!!! What I maybe should have made clearer is that some of the purchases made over the last few years have been a gross waste of money. That is where the money has melted away.


I respect SJH very much and have never come within a million miles of what JB is hinting at!!


By the way JB..I hatename droppers, although I am sure SJH confided his innermost feelings about his CEO to you!!!! smileys/smiley24.gif

basher
07-08-2005, 19:23
He was also there when the club finally achieved promotion to the top
flight after 19 years away!!

What happened afterwards I think also took Moxey by surprise. By that
I'm refering to SJH stating that the club was for sale.I feel that the was a
sudden climate shift in the club regarding the financing available to
strengthen during the Prem pre-season. The funds available were not
forthcoming as Moxey & DJ expected, hence targets had to be re-
evaluated.

HazelGroveWolf
07-08-2005, 20:43
JB, I have had a long chat with SJH about JM and it still did not change my opinion..........





Obviously SJH wasn't swayed one iota either. Get real SOA, you may have aspirations but they certainly do not qualify for a position on the WWFC board.


As for BlackSuit's shouting, can you please speak in a considered and mild mannered way in the future ? Oswald Moseley style speeches may get through to some on here but not me. Remember the Ghosts of Cable Street.Edited by: HazelGroveWolf

Black Suit
08-08-2005, 00:32
As for BlackSuit's shouting, can you please speak in a considered and mild mannered way in the future ? Oswald Moseley style speeches may get through to some on here but not me. Remember the Ghosts of Cable Street.


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No shouting mate, I just cut &amp; paste an old posting that still stands true. Apologies for the size of the font! Should read a little easier now.Edited by: Black Suit


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