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View Full Version : Keane as a Manager.... ooh la la 28-08-2006, 19:17 Now it's official how do you think Keane is going to fair as a manager? In my opinion he is inheriting a good team built by our Mick but do you think his managerial style is going to be like Souness and rule by intimidation or do you think he'll be a straight talking manager with a bit more upstairs? Lupo Italiano 28-08-2006, 19:21 My money would be on him being a Souness type of manager, he has always had that air about him as witnessed before the 2002 World CUp when he fell out with Mick. I can't believe Sunderland, a Championship side, are going to pay a novice £2m pa to manage their club. Seems crazy to me and a gamble that may well backfire spectacularly. ooh la la 28-08-2006, 19:27 My money would be on him being a Souness type of manager, he has always had that air about him as witnessed before the 2002 World CUp when he fell out with Mick. I can't believe Sunderland, a Championship side, are going to pay a novice £2m pa to manage their club. Seems crazy to me and a gamble that may well backfire spectacularly. He certainly does have that reputation as a player Lupo. I think Sunderland will do ok to start but as the season goes on I think they will loose momentum with Keane showing his lack of experience as manager. Down the road if he can get over that intimidating attitude I think he might do ok. Huge of Sharjah 28-08-2006, 19:43 . Thought 'managers' had to take some form of 'management' training at some point to be allowed to practice the art of managing or am I just a old codger. . OldWolvesfart 28-08-2006, 19:46 Keane, 35, put pen to paper after Monday's Coca-Cola Championship 2-0 win over West Brom at the Stadium of Light. He will be formally introduced at a press conference on Tuesday. What if they lost would he and his agent waited for a win before signing. Lets see him manage and what players he buys. Cannot believe with his temperement that he will be able deal with a couple of games when they loose. It would be no different than a team bringing in David Beckham as a manager a big name to bring in revenue and temporary confidence. Maybe he will prove us all wrong but that's a big maybe Mick McCarthy probably knows the answer to this one and when we get to play them it's going to be one hell of a game. leedswolf 28-08-2006, 19:46 I can't believe Sunderland, a Championship side, are going to pay a novice £2m pa to manage their club. Seems crazy to me and a gamble that may well backfire spectacularly. Some people thought that Ince would be the man to take over after Hoddle Hatch End Wolf 28-08-2006, 19:48 Roy Keane=unpleasant person with psychopathic tendencies....( alleged! ). I'll stick with Big Mick thank you very much, he's far less likely to commit GBH on his own players. Sunderland will have the inevitable upturn in form ( it started today! ) and then disaster will strike when Keane starts a fight on the Molineux touchline with Big Mick and Sunderland have to sack him! ooh la la 28-08-2006, 19:49 . Thought 'managers' had to take some form of 'management' training at some point to be allowed to practice the art of managing or am I just a old codger. . You ARE and old codger "huge of sharjah" :D. I think he has taken them or is in the process of taking them. johnybig32 28-08-2006, 21:06 Quinn was desperate, Keane wanted some more money. I dont think Keanes heart will b in it and i dont think he will make a good manager. I think he will become easily frustrated when a player doesnt do something he wants. Yes there will be a brief motivation, and he may be able to attract some players, but who will want to go there... De Wolfs Mullet 28-08-2006, 21:21 Probably the same players that want to come here.... Simmowolf 28-08-2006, 21:25 More Sunderland fettish. Couldn't give a crap. I support Wolves. Ogerp 28-08-2006, 21:27 Done well so far, let's pray that MM get's a home win over Albion. johnybig32 28-08-2006, 21:28 How has be done well so far...? ashfordwolf 28-08-2006, 21:29 Will Keane be able to curb his frustration with sub standard players... Lupo Italiano 28-08-2006, 21:29 How has be done well so far...? Done well for himself... trousering £2m a year for an apprentice job, makes Sir Clive look like a minimum wage job! Ogerp 28-08-2006, 21:29 You ARE and old codger "huge of sharjah" :D. I think he has taken them or is in the process of taking them. Do the Irish badges count over here though, I mean they get them from the horse traders on the Dublin Estate.....ermmmmm aledgedly Lupo Italiano 28-08-2006, 21:30 Will Keane be able to curb his frustration with sub standard players... He coped okay at Celtic :D ashfordwolf 28-08-2006, 21:31 How has be done well so far...? Got himself a big fat contract with no managerial experience! Nice work if you can get it ashfordwolf 28-08-2006, 21:31 He coped okay at Celtic :D Simply brilliant! Ogerp 28-08-2006, 21:31 How has be done well so far...? Just by sitting in the stands they get their 1st win and over, high flying, Albion too. thekentwolf 28-08-2006, 22:12 Anyone see Keane and Quinn, greet each other in the stands. I have heard of a love, hate relationship, think this might be a hate, hate relationship. Very strange considering Quinn has just given Keane a job. ooh la la 28-08-2006, 22:14 Anyone see Keane and Quinn, greet each other in the stands. I have heard of a love, hate relationship, think this might be a hate, hate relationship. Very strange considering Quinn has just given Keane a job. Should be interesting when they are trounced by our Mick! The Bear 28-08-2006, 23:01 I can just see Big Mick holding out a hand to Keane at the final whistle with a smug look on his face after we beat them 2-0. I'll bet he doesn't get a handshake. Stewarton Wolf 28-08-2006, 23:16 The Irish FA preparation for the 2002 world cup was appalling - Keane spoke out and rightly so - McCarthy as a manager was limited in what he could say due to his position, I have no doubt if push came to shove McCarthy and Keane wouldnt have been far apart on the football issues - Its just that management can compramise you at times. It will be interesting to see if Keane is so forthright when in a similar position or will he be a Keegan with tantrums and walkouts £2m a season contract may just curb some of his excesses. I like the bloke and hope he does well - a real working class hero - warts and all. I also think Ince will soon be on the scene in this division, should be fun. wolf of sedgley 28-08-2006, 23:22 I hope he fails, because he is a thug. Lupo Italiano 28-08-2006, 23:55 Anyone see Keane and Quinn, greet each other in the stands. I have heard of a love, hate relationship, think this might be a hate, hate relationship. Very strange considering Quinn has just given Keane a job. Just caught that on the repeat showing. Very strange reaction. Quinn (supposedly Keane's new boss) tapped Keane on the shoulder enthusiatically and Keane looked up and icily nodded his head to him. No smile, no niceities, no rapport. Not what I would expect between a Chairman and his new manager. Quinn then sat well apart from Keane, few rows in front. The commentators dismissed it as Keane 'concentrating on the game'. :rolleyes: Deutsch Wolf 29-08-2006, 00:02 But Keane's always been that way with everyone - team mates at Utd, Ferguson, international colleagues - he admits in his autobiography that he's a loner and doesn't have a single friend in football. For what it's worth, I think he'll get Sunderland stable and midtable this season and take them up next season. He's got a very sharp tactical mind, can see problems developing before other people (he knew Man Utd had major problems when they lost to Bayern Munich in 2000/01 and was subsequently proved right, look at their record in the Champions League since), isn't afraid to tell it like it is and commands respect in the game. Lupo Italiano 29-08-2006, 00:08 On 'You're On Sky Sports', Steve Claridge was questioning whether Keane has the tactical nouse to succeed as a manager... Could bode well for Keane, Claridge isn't convinced by him! ROVERT47 29-08-2006, 07:55 More Sunderland fettish. Couldn't give a crap. I support Wolves. Couldn`t agree more mate my only concern is for the boys in Gold & Black!! Essex Wolf 29-08-2006, 08:24 Couldn`t agree more mate my only concern is for the boys in Gold & Black!! Exactly. HICKO 29-08-2006, 11:43 You ARE and old codger "huge of sharjah" :D. I think he has taken them or is in the process of taking them. More of a "Raffles" type I would have thought........ As for Keane, I normally agree with Deutsch Wolf but I am not at all convinced about him. No doubting his footballing skills,leadership qualities etc.but he is on uncharted waters. To my mind a lot could depend on who he has helping him. OldWolvesfart 29-08-2006, 11:52 But Keane's always been that way with everyone - team mates at Utd, Ferguson, international colleagues - he admits in his autobiography that he's a loner and doesn't have a single friend in football. For what it's worth, I think he'll get Sunderland stable and midtable this season and take them up next season. He's got a very sharp tactical mind, can see problems developing before other people (he knew Man Utd had major problems when they lost to Bayern Munich in 2000/01 and was subsequently proved right, look at their record in the Champions League since), isn't afraid to tell it like it is and commands respect in the game. My God you've read the autobiography? I think ignoring people is part of his attitude problem and this early meeting with Quinn indicates how difficult it may be for Keane to deal with it. Ginger Chimp 29-08-2006, 12:25 Sunderland's success (or lack of it) will depend on Keane's back room staff rather than himself. As a front man he is a sop to the fans by an increasingly desperate Quinn. (and I don't really care either). wtonlad 29-08-2006, 13:50 Anyone see the sky interview about a year ago? "Quinn in a word, would Keane make a good manager?" "Errrm.......Doubtful!" duanepipe 29-08-2006, 17:46 I think Keane's appointment will be a good chance to see how important the style of chairmanship is. Jordan at Palace is the polar opposite of Quinn. Jordan has said to Peter Taylor, get us promoted now or I'll kill your children and eat your pets. Affable Niall has politely asked Roy if he could see fit to pointing the club in the right direction over the coming 10 years. It will be very interesting to see whether the inexperienced manager working under a patient chairman delivers success over the ravenous chairman and the experienced manager with a good CV. Is patient planning going to win through over dynamic, hands on leadership? ashfordwolf 29-08-2006, 17:47 Anyone see Keane and Quinn, greet each other in the stands. I have heard of a love, hate relationship, think this might be a hate, hate relationship. Very strange considering Quinn has just given Keane a job. Perhaps Keane is driving Quinny home. After all, thats why i'm pleasant to you... thekentwolf 29-08-2006, 20:27 Anyone see the sky interview about a year ago? "Quinn in a word, would Keane make a good manager?" "Errrm.......Doubtful!" Yeap I saw that, Brilliant. TheDarkside 29-08-2006, 20:43 I hope he fails, because he is a thug. I hope he fails because I hate the Sunderland fans so much. They are always on about them being a sleeping giant, and what a big club they are. Arrogant sods. thekentwolf 29-08-2006, 20:45 Jordan has said to Peter Taylor, get us promoted now or I'll kill your children and eat your pets. Er..........no he has'nt. duanepipe 29-08-2006, 21:15 He said it in sign language at the press conference. I may have misread him though. It was possibly 'pet' rather than pets. ooh la la 29-08-2006, 21:31 I hope he fails because I hate the Sunderland fans so much. They are always on about them being a sleeping giant, and what a big club they are. Arrogant sods. I hope that was a little "tongue in cheek" with that quote. ashfordwolf 30-08-2006, 09:07 Er..........no he has'nt. I see, now you are privvy to all of the Owner/Manager conversations at Palace are you? John 30-08-2006, 11:48 Having read his interview, I think he may be a suprise to some, and do better than expected. Given the closing of the transfer window he may not do too well this season, but even if he does get the best out of his team, he will never be worth £2m a year. His salary is madness. Essex Wolf 30-08-2006, 11:56 Although I'm not that interested in Keane's appointment it does seem the media are trying to hype things up for when Wolves play Sunderland on 25th November. Link1 (http://www.wolves.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=28960) Link2 (http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,1810_1459478,00.html) Link3 (http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2006400195,00.html) Bankswolf II 30-08-2006, 12:17 Although I'm not that interested in Keane's appointment it does seem the media are trying to hype things up for when Wolves play Sunderland on 25th November. Link1 (http://www.wolves.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=28960) Link2 (http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,1810_1459478,00.html) Link3 (http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2006400195,00.html) Thats if Keane is still in with a job by then I cant see it lasting at all to be honest a riskey appointment doesnt give it justice this idea of having just retired players become managers is getting ridiculous i mean you only have to look at Boros last result to really see how much it is actully working *Note- yes i know they beat Chelsea but every team is entitled to a fluke every now and then* Essex Wolf 30-08-2006, 12:23 Thats if Keane is still in with a job by then I cant see it lasting at all to be honest a riskey appointment doesnt give it justice this idea of having just retired players become managers is getting ridiculous i mean you only have to look at Boros last result to really see how much it is actully working *Note- yes i know they beat Chelsea but every team is entitled to a fluke every now and then* BWII, you could well be right and IMHO the amount of media coverage this appointment is getting is rediculous and plain OTT. Only time will tell if Keane is going to make he grade but the media seem to be loving every second of his appointment and are stirring things 3 months before the game. paddingtonwolf 30-08-2006, 12:25 If the Mackems want to spunk £2 million a year on a psycho let em get on with it. I reckon it will all implode spectacularly just after we beat them and Mick has the last laugh. Essex Wolf 30-08-2006, 12:30 If the Mackems want to spunk £2 million a year on a psycho let em get on with it. I reckon it will all implode spectacularly just after we beat them and Mick has the last laugh. Dare say a lot of people want Keane to fail and if he does Sunderland will look mighty silly having to pay out a massive fee to unload him after all he build up to his appointment. Visage Wolf 30-08-2006, 12:31 If the Mackems want to spunk £2 million a year on a psycho let em get on with it. I used to know a slightly mental bloke in Oxford who'd let you do it for a can of Special Brew. 2m is a rip off. Kenny-11 30-08-2006, 12:47 Dwight Yorke is his first target........... Visage Wolf 30-08-2006, 12:55 Dwight Yorke is his first target........... http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/1220/thatsracistwz8.gif AndyP 30-08-2006, 12:56 Can see him getting Rossi, especially if Fergie gets Tevez in the next couple of days. Essex Wolf 30-08-2006, 13:05 Whoever Keane gets in he need to act fast with tomorrow being the last day before the transfer window closes for a while. Deutsch Wolf 30-08-2006, 13:08 The loan window re-opens next month for Football League clubs. Essex Wolf 30-08-2006, 13:10 The loan window re-opens next month for Football League clubs. Cheers DW. With loans being used a lot by CCC clubs dare say Keane will use it to max effect if he needs to. Black Suit 30-08-2006, 14:24 Anyone see Keane and Quinn, greet each other in the stands. I have heard of a love, hate relationship, think this might be a hate, hate relationship. Very strange considering Quinn has just given Keane a job. Body language was awfully cold. :) Black Suit 30-08-2006, 14:32 I think Keane might take a little heat off Jose Mourinho for a while. I reckon the media would love him to fail, and will probably wind him up at every opportunity. Me thinks it'll end in tears personally. :( :) Essex Wolf 30-08-2006, 15:17 He certainly wasn't hard to wind up as a player and if carries the same attitude into management can imagine a few tochline disagreements with officials and oppostion staff. Now wouldn't that be a shame. thekentwolf 30-08-2006, 22:09 Bet of the season. Roy Keane to be sent to the stands as manager of Sunderland this season. 6/4. I will be having a large wager on that. |
