WestOZ Wolf
27-08-2006, 15:34
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/manchester/5290534.stm
Words fail me :rolleyes:
Words fail me :rolleyes:
View Full Version : Man City's gay recruitment drive
Jack Bauer
27-08-2006, 15:43
Shouldn't be allowed.
markb
27-08-2006, 15:45
why not?
Jack Bauer
27-08-2006, 15:46
why not?
Just trying to wind people up.
Just trying to wind people up.
Papper
27-08-2006, 15:47
Nothing like alienating a minority of the public by giving them special treatment.
Political Correctness.
Why dont they instigate a Poof Package? Invite them all into the same box on a matchday away from the nasty heterosexuals who want to torture and kill them !!
Political Correctness.
Why dont they instigate a Poof Package? Invite them all into the same box on a matchday away from the nasty heterosexuals who want to torture and kill them !!
Jack Bauer
27-08-2006, 15:50
Surely if you're gay and a football fan you would go to the match anyway. Or is that too obvious.
Florida Wolfey
27-08-2006, 15:53
Nothing like alienating a minority of the public by giving them special treatment.
Political Correctness.
Why dont they instigate a Poof Package? Invite them all into the same box on a matchday away from the nasty heterosexuals who want to torture and kill them !!
"poof package".......LOL :)
Political Correctness.
Why dont they instigate a Poof Package? Invite them all into the same box on a matchday away from the nasty heterosexuals who want to torture and kill them !!
"poof package".......LOL :)
Papper
27-08-2006, 15:58
"poof package".......LOL :)
Whatever next eh? You'll get a club offering free tickets to Asylum Seeking Spongers :rolleyes:
Whatever next eh? You'll get a club offering free tickets to Asylum Seeking Spongers :rolleyes:
Hatch End Wolf
27-08-2006, 16:06
You're a bit off message Papper, even New Labour have decided that it's not racist to question the influx of immigrants into this paradise on earth!
Papper
27-08-2006, 16:14
You're a bit off message Papper, even New Labour have decided that it's not racist to question the influx of immigrants into this paradise on earth!
So why didnt they do it prior to the last election?
I talked to a guy once who flew Spitfires in the Battle of Britain (He was Polish) Now the Battle Cry is ' Sprouts are going unpicked in the fields and Cockles unpicked from the Shores '
So why didnt they do it prior to the last election?
I talked to a guy once who flew Spitfires in the Battle of Britain (He was Polish) Now the Battle Cry is ' Sprouts are going unpicked in the fields and Cockles unpicked from the Shores '
the_wanderer
27-08-2006, 16:47
Surely if you're gay and a football fan you would go to the match anyway. Or is that too obvious.
No, its not too obvious at all... There are plenty of us...
No, its not too obvious at all... There are plenty of us...
the_wanderer
27-08-2006, 16:51
But to be honest I don't see the point. If gay people are pushing for equality in so many areas, why do they need a special mention here?
It's just a PR case for City - what jobs could we do that they don't have anyway? *cue the hundreds of comments to advise stereotypical job roles*
It's just a PR case for City - what jobs could we do that they don't have anyway? *cue the hundreds of comments to advise stereotypical job roles*
Papper
27-08-2006, 16:52
No, its not too obvious at all... There are plenty of us...
Do you want a medal?
Poof goes to football match shocker !!
Do you want a medal?
Poof goes to football match shocker !!
the_wanderer
27-08-2006, 16:53
No I don't want a medal at all. Why do you think I've never mentioned it off topic?!?! I'm just a lad who loves my football at the end of the day...
Papper
27-08-2006, 17:03
No I don't want a medal at all. Why do you think I've never mentioned it off topic?!?! I'm just a lad who loves my football at the end of the day...
My apologies, it just annoys me how me people are people are put into separate pockets (No pun intended)
My apologies, it just annoys me how me people are people are put into separate pockets (No pun intended)
the_wanderer
27-08-2006, 17:09
Oh I know - I'm not a "Gay Football Fan", I'm a gay lad who happens to love his football. I'm pretty obsessed with it. And before anyone says, I'd much rather be travelling to Sunderland for a tuesday evening match than be listening to Kylie and drinking alcopops...
I do actually think I may be the most homophobic gay man in existence...
:rolleyes:
I do actually think I may be the most homophobic gay man in existence...
:rolleyes:
HIGHLANDER
27-08-2006, 17:22
Would all the negative publicity that Man City have received this week due to the Ben Thatcher incident have anything to do with all of this.
HIGHLANDER
27-08-2006, 17:23
Whatever next eh? You'll get a club offering free tickets to Asylum Seeking Spongers :rolleyes:Are you talking about Wolves a couple of years back?
The Bear
27-08-2006, 18:08
MAN CITY UNVEIL THEIR NEW KIT:
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/02/27/daffyd_narrowweb__300x414,0.jpg
http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/02/27/daffyd_narrowweb__300x414,0.jpg
derbyrameater
27-08-2006, 18:14
In the next few weeks, the organisation will be looking at specific areas to target..:eek:
Dr Wolfenstein
27-08-2006, 18:20
Whatever next eh? You'll get a club offering free tickets to Asylum Seeking Spongers :rolleyes:
Leading to an acronym of staggering insensitivity in the circumstances.
Leading to an acronym of staggering insensitivity in the circumstances.
Dr Wolfenstein
27-08-2006, 18:23
Oh I know - And before anyone says, I'd much rather be travelling to Sunderland for a tuesday evening match than be listening to Kylie and drinking alcopops...
:rolleyes:
Look, don't feel you have to have anything to prove to the rest of us. I'm not gay, but Sunderland before Kylie....!
:rolleyes:
Look, don't feel you have to have anything to prove to the rest of us. I'm not gay, but Sunderland before Kylie....!
thekentwolf
27-08-2006, 23:13
Shocking!!!
the_wanderer
28-08-2006, 16:54
Look, don't feel you have to have anything to prove to the rest of us. I'm not gay, but Sunderland before Kylie....!
:D
:D
MickMac
28-08-2006, 17:05
Is a recruitment drive like a beetle drive? Do you roll dice and then pin the appropriate piece of anatomy on the gay? Lets hope they're not masochistic gays, they may like it!
In fact that's a nailed on certainty! :D
In fact that's a nailed on certainty! :D
Lupo Italiano
28-08-2006, 17:11
Is a recruitment drive like a beetle drive?
The idea of men driving Beetles is gay, especially those with flowers on the dashboard!
The idea of men driving Beetles is gay, especially those with flowers on the dashboard!
dazmanwolf
28-08-2006, 17:26
Nothing like alienating a minority of the public by giving them special treatment.
Political Correctness.
Just like Alton Towers Muslims Only Day ;)
Political Correctness.
Just like Alton Towers Muslims Only Day ;)
Lupo Italiano
28-08-2006, 17:32
Just like Alton Towers Muslims Only Day ;)
Cancelled due to lack of interest. No alcohol, no music, dress code... no wonder none of them were interested in attending, sounds pretty dull doesn't it!
Cancelled due to lack of interest. No alcohol, no music, dress code... no wonder none of them were interested in attending, sounds pretty dull doesn't it!
Markwolf
28-08-2006, 17:33
The idea of men driving Beetles is gay, especially those with flowers on the dashboard!
All this coming from a bloke who is the messiah of football shirt fashion................
All this coming from a bloke who is the messiah of football shirt fashion................
Lupo Italiano
28-08-2006, 17:34
All this coming from a bloke who is the messiah of football shirt fashion................
Cheers mate! And don't forget I work in a VW garage too!
Cheers mate! And don't forget I work in a VW garage too!
fenella
29-08-2006, 10:23
It all sounds to me like cynical money-grabbing marketing men trying to get some of that pink pound. Its only a matter of time before Jez has a go.
markb
29-08-2006, 11:50
It all sounds to me like cynical money-grabbing marketing men trying to get some of that pink pound. Its only a matter of time before Jez has a go.Perhaps he's already begun - he made one of the ball boys wear a pink hat last year.
wtonlad
29-08-2006, 14:02
Just like Alton Towers Muslims Only Day ;)
To be fair, I thought it was pretty crappy too. But they had organised to hire the park, just like anyone of us could do if we wished, but still, think of the uproar there'd have been if it was "Christians only day at the towers!"
To be fair, I thought it was pretty crappy too. But they had organised to hire the park, just like anyone of us could do if we wished, but still, think of the uproar there'd have been if it was "Christians only day at the towers!"
Lupo Italiano
29-08-2006, 14:06
To be fair, I thought it was pretty crappy too. But they had organised to hire the park, just like anyone of us could do if we wished, but still, think of the uproar there'd have been if it was "Christians only day at the towers!"
There were those people who had a wedding there the same weekend but were told they weren't allowed to play music and their guests could drink no alcohol as it would offend the organisers/guests of the Muslim Day :rolleyes:
There were those people who had a wedding there the same weekend but were told they weren't allowed to play music and their guests could drink no alcohol as it would offend the organisers/guests of the Muslim Day :rolleyes:
glasgowwolf
29-08-2006, 14:49
why not?
It is discrimantion plain and simple.
It discriminates against hetrosexuals.
Now lets say some one went out of the way to attract more hetrosexuals in place of homosexuals would that be allowed, just?
It is discrimantion plain and simple.
It discriminates against hetrosexuals.
Now lets say some one went out of the way to attract more hetrosexuals in place of homosexuals would that be allowed, just?
paddingtonwolf
29-08-2006, 14:53
I hate discrimantion I do.
the_wanderer
29-08-2006, 14:55
Exactly my thinking!
In attempting to not discriminate, they blatantly are!
Football fans are football fans, does it really matter whether they are male, female, gay, straight, muslim, christian, or from mars? (the latter just reserved for David Mellor ;) )
In attempting to not discriminate, they blatantly are!
Football fans are football fans, does it really matter whether they are male, female, gay, straight, muslim, christian, or from mars? (the latter just reserved for David Mellor ;) )
Lupo Italiano
29-08-2006, 14:59
Exactly my thinking!
In attempting to not discriminate, they blatantly are!
Football fans are football fans, does it really matter whether they are male, female, gay, straight, muslim, christian, or from mars? (the latter just reserved for David Mellor ;) )
And David Icke :D
In attempting to not discriminate, they blatantly are!
Football fans are football fans, does it really matter whether they are male, female, gay, straight, muslim, christian, or from mars? (the latter just reserved for David Mellor ;) )
And David Icke :D
fenella
29-08-2006, 15:03
It is discrimantion plain and simple.
It discriminates against hetrosexuals.
Eh? How are they discriminating against hetrosexuals?
It discriminates against hetrosexuals.
Eh? How are they discriminating against hetrosexuals?
Stuart Smith
29-08-2006, 15:06
why dont you email peter tatchell and give your views on it? He can be contacted at peter@tatchell.freeserve.co.uk (peter@tatchell.freeserve.co.uk) .
I'm not being flippant, i would imagine he would have quite interesting views on it
I'm not being flippant, i would imagine he would have quite interesting views on it
glasgowwolf
29-08-2006, 15:30
Eh? How are they discriminating against hetrosexuals?
By specificvally targetting 1 section of the community IE Homosexuals they are discriminating against there opposite, Hetrosexuals.
If any one was to target white people to atend a function, it would be discriminating against Non White's.
They call it positive discrimination, there is no such thing as positive discrimination.
All discrimination is wrong and has no part to play in today's society.
Only when all forms of discrimination is recognised as being unjust and unacceptable will the world become more tolerant.
RANT OVER
By specificvally targetting 1 section of the community IE Homosexuals they are discriminating against there opposite, Hetrosexuals.
If any one was to target white people to atend a function, it would be discriminating against Non White's.
They call it positive discrimination, there is no such thing as positive discrimination.
All discrimination is wrong and has no part to play in today's society.
Only when all forms of discrimination is recognised as being unjust and unacceptable will the world become more tolerant.
RANT OVER
fenella
29-08-2006, 15:45
By specificvally targetting 1 section of the community IE Homosexuals they are discriminating against there opposite, Hetrosexuals.
RANT OVER
No they aren't. That's not discrimination. If Wolves, say, wanted to encourage more youngsters to attend matches by doing a marketing campaign with an actor from Neighbours (for example), they aren't discriminating against old people. They're just marketing to a specific audience that they feel will result in the biggest increase in revenue.
Wolves currently make attending a match friendly towards $$$$$heads by providing beer. That's good marketing. It pees me off because it means I have to queue to have a slash. But I don't feel it discriminates me just because I drive to the match so can't drink.
They make attending a match friendly to chavs by playing crap music, but I don't feel it discriminates against me just because I'm a hippy.
RANT OVER
No they aren't. That's not discrimination. If Wolves, say, wanted to encourage more youngsters to attend matches by doing a marketing campaign with an actor from Neighbours (for example), they aren't discriminating against old people. They're just marketing to a specific audience that they feel will result in the biggest increase in revenue.
Wolves currently make attending a match friendly towards $$$$$heads by providing beer. That's good marketing. It pees me off because it means I have to queue to have a slash. But I don't feel it discriminates me just because I drive to the match so can't drink.
They make attending a match friendly to chavs by playing crap music, but I don't feel it discriminates against me just because I'm a hippy.
wtonlad
29-08-2006, 16:04
I think the "ladies day" is a wrong. Yes, they are filling seats that otherwise wouldn't be filled, trying to encourage more women to come, blah blah blah, but why not make it "bring a friend" day?
Stuart Smith
29-08-2006, 16:06
[quote=fenella;285379]
Wolves currently make attending a match friendly towards $$$$$heads by providing beer. quote]
ummmm not quite. They discriminate against $$$$ heads by outsourcing the catering to a mob who make it impossible to get a pint and consume it within the alloted 15.
but i get your point
Wolves currently make attending a match friendly towards $$$$$heads by providing beer. quote]
ummmm not quite. They discriminate against $$$$ heads by outsourcing the catering to a mob who make it impossible to get a pint and consume it within the alloted 15.
but i get your point
fenella
29-08-2006, 16:33
I think the "ladies day" is a wrong. Yes, they are filling seats that otherwise wouldn't be filled, trying to encourage more women to come, blah blah blah, but why not make it "bring a friend" day?
Well, according to Glasgowwolf, that would discriminate against people who don't have friends.
Well, according to Glasgowwolf, that would discriminate against people who don't have friends.
glasgowwolf
29-08-2006, 16:45
No they aren't. That's not discrimination. If Wolves, say, wanted to encourage more youngsters to attend matches by doing a marketing campaign with an actor from Neighbours (for example), they aren't discriminating against old people. They're just marketing to a specific audience that they feel will result in the biggest increase in revenue.
Wolves currently make attending a match friendly towards $$$$$heads by providing beer. That's good marketing. It pees me off because it means I have to queue to have a slash. But I don't feel it discriminates me just because I drive to the match so can't drink.
They make attending a match friendly to chavs by playing crap music, but I don't feel it discriminates against me just because I'm a hippy.
Ok so targetting some one on the basis of race, religion, nationality or colour to a place/event is not discrimination.
Thats fine now tell me when a pub targets White's only, no blacks or Asians is that acceptable. Ie a pub landlord says you are not allowed in here due to your colour...
2 people going for the same job one is black one is white the black is better qualified however the owner / manager wants to target whites so gives the white guy the job is that fair ?
Wolves currently make attending a match friendly towards $$$$$heads by providing beer. That's good marketing. It pees me off because it means I have to queue to have a slash. But I don't feel it discriminates me just because I drive to the match so can't drink.
They make attending a match friendly to chavs by playing crap music, but I don't feel it discriminates against me just because I'm a hippy.
Ok so targetting some one on the basis of race, religion, nationality or colour to a place/event is not discrimination.
Thats fine now tell me when a pub targets White's only, no blacks or Asians is that acceptable. Ie a pub landlord says you are not allowed in here due to your colour...
2 people going for the same job one is black one is white the black is better qualified however the owner / manager wants to target whites so gives the white guy the job is that fair ?
Stuart Smith
29-08-2006, 16:50
Thats fine now tell me when a pub targets White's only, no blacks or Asians is that acceptable. Ie a pub landlord says you are not allowed in here due to your colour...
A licensee can bar anyone from enteing eth pemesis WITHOUT giving a reason. However, if they then said that reason was based on skin colour, they would be breaking the law.
2 people going for the same job one is black one is white the black is better qualified however the owner / manager wants to target whites so gives the white guy the job is that fair ?
Another obvious illegality, UNLESS a GOQ applies and there aint many that would allow you to employ a white person over a member of an ethnic minority
A licensee can bar anyone from enteing eth pemesis WITHOUT giving a reason. However, if they then said that reason was based on skin colour, they would be breaking the law.
2 people going for the same job one is black one is white the black is better qualified however the owner / manager wants to target whites so gives the white guy the job is that fair ?
Another obvious illegality, UNLESS a GOQ applies and there aint many that would allow you to employ a white person over a member of an ethnic minority
Mutchy
29-08-2006, 16:58
Ok so targetting some one on the basis of race, religion, nationality or colour to a place/event is not discrimination.
Thats fine now tell me when a pub targets White's only, no blacks or Asians is that acceptable. Ie a pub landlord says you are not allowed in here due to your colour...
2 people going for the same job one is black one is white the black is better qualified however the owner / manager wants to target whites so gives the white guy the job is that fair ?
Isn't it just a case of encouraging a specific group of people (who may be reticent) to attend matches? They aren't doing it at the expense of any other group... they aren't having a match where only gays can attend, or giving them priority for tickets.
Thats fine now tell me when a pub targets White's only, no blacks or Asians is that acceptable. Ie a pub landlord says you are not allowed in here due to your colour...
2 people going for the same job one is black one is white the black is better qualified however the owner / manager wants to target whites so gives the white guy the job is that fair ?
Isn't it just a case of encouraging a specific group of people (who may be reticent) to attend matches? They aren't doing it at the expense of any other group... they aren't having a match where only gays can attend, or giving them priority for tickets.
Jack Bauer
29-08-2006, 17:12
Imagine a match only gays could attend, that would be some spectacle.
paddingtonwolf
29-08-2006, 17:19
I dunno - I wouldn't be able to see it.
Jack Bauer
29-08-2006, 17:21
I dunno - I wouldn't be able to see it.
Depends how you had to prove it I suppose.
Depends how you had to prove it I suppose.
Reddish Wolf
29-08-2006, 17:26
Depends how you had to prove it I suppose.
Buggered if I know
Buggered if I know
paddingtonwolf
29-08-2006, 17:28
hmm - a difficult one. They could offer you some one to f in the a and see if you turned it down I guess. If you were only required to wear pink of something a few chancers may try and get in.
Jack Bauer
29-08-2006, 17:30
hmm - a difficult one. They could offer you some one to f in the a and see if you turned it down I guess. If you were only required to wear pink of something a few chancers may try and get in.
What if you were gay but just didn't fancy them? I mean, if you had to prove you were heterosexual and were given Michelle McManus it would be tough.
What if you were gay but just didn't fancy them? I mean, if you had to prove you were heterosexual and were given Michelle McManus it would be tough.
the_wanderer
29-08-2006, 19:20
Why do they have to invite gays to attend full stop? Surely if they wanted to go, they'd already be going? :confused:
Jack Bauer
29-08-2006, 19:26
Why do they have to invite gays to attend full stop? Surely if they wanted to go, they'd already be going? :confused:
Exactly what I said earlier, probably all us homophobes putting them off.
Exactly what I said earlier, probably all us homophobes putting them off.
Slip On Shoes
29-08-2006, 23:03
Maybe Gay Wolves will go and support Man City now, he was hardly made welcome on the old E&S message board!!
Thread Killer
29-08-2006, 23:26
By specificvally targetting 1 section of the community IE Homosexuals they are discriminating against there opposite, Hetrosexuals.
Don't be so $$$$ing ridiculous.
Don't be so $$$$ing ridiculous.
Papper
30-08-2006, 01:04
The way to attract more families to football matches is to lower the prices and make it a good spectacle not necessarily to encourage gay's to go to football.
Can you imagine Mr and Mrs X saying ' Yes we've decided to take our three kids to the football because we will be sat with nice, peaceful gays. We've decided not to go again though because it cost nearly £250.00 and the football was $$$$$. We've made lovely friends in Justin and Tarquin and they've invited us round for a cup of tea next Saturday. I saw that one player kiss another and hug him and it's just mocking Justion and Tarquin, this homophobic attitude is not needed in this day and age and god forbid my son starts kissing other boys when he plays football and i'm writing to Peter Tatchell to complain'
Can you imagine Mr and Mrs X saying ' Yes we've decided to take our three kids to the football because we will be sat with nice, peaceful gays. We've decided not to go again though because it cost nearly £250.00 and the football was $$$$$. We've made lovely friends in Justin and Tarquin and they've invited us round for a cup of tea next Saturday. I saw that one player kiss another and hug him and it's just mocking Justion and Tarquin, this homophobic attitude is not needed in this day and age and god forbid my son starts kissing other boys when he plays football and i'm writing to Peter Tatchell to complain'
Visage Wolf
30-08-2006, 08:39
By specificvally targetting 1 section of the community IE Homosexuals they are discriminating against there opposite, Hetrosexuals.
If any one was to target white people to atend a function, it would be discriminating against Non White's.
They call it positive discrimination, there is no such thing as positive discrimination.
All discrimination is wrong and has no part to play in today's society.
Only when all forms of discrimination is recognised as being unjust and unacceptable will the world become more tolerant.
RANT OVER
Would you consider a 'kids for a quid' offer to discriminate against adults?
If any one was to target white people to atend a function, it would be discriminating against Non White's.
They call it positive discrimination, there is no such thing as positive discrimination.
All discrimination is wrong and has no part to play in today's society.
Only when all forms of discrimination is recognised as being unjust and unacceptable will the world become more tolerant.
RANT OVER
Would you consider a 'kids for a quid' offer to discriminate against adults?
John
30-08-2006, 08:41
Would you consider a 'kids for a quid' offer to discriminate against adults?
Obviously.
Even more so against OAP's, who usually pay the same as kids.
Everyone should pay the same price!(Technically paying a pound a game under Hoddle might have been a fair price)
Obviously.
Even more so against OAP's, who usually pay the same as kids.
Everyone should pay the same price!(Technically paying a pound a game under Hoddle might have been a fair price)
the_wanderer
30-08-2006, 08:42
Exactly what I said earlier, probably all us homophobes putting them off.
ALL us homophobes? :confused: :rolleyes:
ALL us homophobes? :confused: :rolleyes:
the other rightside boy
30-08-2006, 09:05
Human Rights Act 1998
Article 14 of the Convention gives the right for an individual not to be
discriminated against. It is concerned with the way in which the other
rights are protected.
This means an issue of discrimination under Article 14 of the Human
Rights Act can only be raised when an alleged breach of another Article is
alleged.
For example: a person alleges an unlawful arrest (breach of Article 5 -
Right to Liberty) but it occurred as a result, or because, of their ethnic
origin (breach of Article 14 - Discrimination).
Areas not covered as yet by legislation are:
Religious beliefs
Age
Sexual Orientation
Article 14 of the Convention gives the right for an individual not to be
discriminated against. It is concerned with the way in which the other
rights are protected.
This means an issue of discrimination under Article 14 of the Human
Rights Act can only be raised when an alleged breach of another Article is
alleged.
For example: a person alleges an unlawful arrest (breach of Article 5 -
Right to Liberty) but it occurred as a result, or because, of their ethnic
origin (breach of Article 14 - Discrimination).
Areas not covered as yet by legislation are:
Religious beliefs
Age
Sexual Orientation
Stuart Smith
30-08-2006, 09:07
There are currently moves to include age as a discriminatory device.
ashfordwolf
30-08-2006, 09:47
I think the "ladies day" is a wrong. Yes, they are filling seats that otherwise wouldn't be filled, trying to encourage more women to come, blah blah blah, but why not make it "bring a friend" day?
Make ya right there
Make ya right there
ashfordwolf
30-08-2006, 09:49
Is this 'anti gay male' as you can't bring a male 'partner'? Shocking news, Man City go one way, Wolves the other!
Jack Bauer
30-08-2006, 18:11
ALL us homophobes? :confused: :rolleyes:
Yes all of us.
We should make it a gay day next time we play Reading, see if any of them get bummed by fans in the Steve Bull.
Yes all of us.
We should make it a gay day next time we play Reading, see if any of them get bummed by fans in the Steve Bull.
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