WA Wolf
16-08-2006, 09:45
Here from Liverpool on a 12 month loan - anyone know anything about him?
View Full Version : Darren Potter
horsham_dingle
16-08-2006, 09:47
No, but his brother Harry is a bit of a wizard
paddingtonwolf
16-08-2006, 09:47
christ that was predictable!
I was going to do a line on getting Weasley and Grainger in too but it was too shameful to contemplate.
I was going to do a line on getting Weasley and Grainger in too but it was too shameful to contemplate.
Mutchy
16-08-2006, 09:48
Republic of Ireland Under-21 international Darren Potter ended the 2005/06 season on loan at Championship side Southampton.
Potter was given his Liverpool debut by Rafael Benitez in the Champions League qualifier with Graz in August 2004.
A creative central midfield player, Potter came on as a substitute in the first leg in Austria then made his full debut in the second leg 1-0 defeat.
He saw regular action in the Carling Cup run in 2004 and made 10 appearances in the 2004/05 season.
Potter is a former Liverpool schoolboy's captain who was once with Everton but the Blues didn't take the option to sign him.
Potter is a highly rated central midfield player who has a good eye for a pass. He has progressed from the Academy and has been a regular member of the reserve side, under the close influence of Hughie McAuley.
Potter was given his Liverpool debut by Rafael Benitez in the Champions League qualifier with Graz in August 2004.
A creative central midfield player, Potter came on as a substitute in the first leg in Austria then made his full debut in the second leg 1-0 defeat.
He saw regular action in the Carling Cup run in 2004 and made 10 appearances in the 2004/05 season.
Potter is a former Liverpool schoolboy's captain who was once with Everton but the Blues didn't take the option to sign him.
Potter is a highly rated central midfield player who has a good eye for a pass. He has progressed from the Academy and has been a regular member of the reserve side, under the close influence of Hughie McAuley.
Nashie
16-08-2006, 09:51
Cool.
Think he is backup or a starter?
Sounds like he's is a starter until Mark Davies comes back from injury.
Think he is backup or a starter?
Sounds like he's is a starter until Mark Davies comes back from injury.
Mutchy
16-08-2006, 09:52
Twelve months ago..
His encouraging displays down the right flank in recent games have suggested that he now deserves a regular first teamplace but the down-to-earth Academy graduate is refusing to get too carried away.
He adds: "I haven't set myself any goals particularly, just to stay in and around the first team. I am not looking too far forward. I thought maybe a loan deal would do me good this season but now I have been involved I am just trying to play as well as I can.
"I am more comfortable in the middle than on the right, but you know that Steven Gerrard, the best player in Europe, Xabi Alonso and Didi Hamann are competing for those places, so it is not going to be easy playing there.
His encouraging displays down the right flank in recent games have suggested that he now deserves a regular first teamplace but the down-to-earth Academy graduate is refusing to get too carried away.
He adds: "I haven't set myself any goals particularly, just to stay in and around the first team. I am not looking too far forward. I thought maybe a loan deal would do me good this season but now I have been involved I am just trying to play as well as I can.
"I am more comfortable in the middle than on the right, but you know that Steven Gerrard, the best player in Europe, Xabi Alonso and Didi Hamann are competing for those places, so it is not going to be easy playing there.
xbomber
16-08-2006, 09:57
I'm pleased he can play on the right. We need a good right winger more than a centre mid right now... assuming Rosa is ready and Davies is a few weeks away.
Malicious Steve
16-08-2006, 10:00
so who's going to be the first to slag him off then?
Nashie
16-08-2006, 10:03
"He did excellently. He is a modern day centre midfielder, he is young and hungry and we are happy to see him here at Wolves."
Nice to see that the buzz phrase is in there - 'young and hungry'.
:D
Nice to see that the buzz phrase is in there - 'young and hungry'.
:D
PREM.L.L
16-08-2006, 10:04
He's $$$$.
PREM.L.L
16-08-2006, 10:05
It was me then.
Sounds a good all rounder type any stats on him? Height, weight etc.
Sounds a good all rounder type any stats on him? Height, weight etc.
paddingtonwolf
16-08-2006, 10:09
6'1" apparently
Mutchy
16-08-2006, 10:13
6'1" apparently
and 10st 8.
and 10st 8.
Nashie
16-08-2006, 10:13
It was me then.
Sounds a good all rounder type any stats on him? Height, weight etc.
Is he a 'utility man'? We haven't had a jack of all trades since Neil Emblen. ;)
Sounds a good all rounder type any stats on him? Height, weight etc.
Is he a 'utility man'? We haven't had a jack of all trades since Neil Emblen. ;)
ProudWolf
16-08-2006, 10:20
He's a central midfield player. He's not the right winger that we require unless Gobern can show something decent when he gets fit. He played right-midfield for Liverpool because of who they had to pick from in central midfield so I expect Potter will compete with Olofinjana, Henry, O'Connor for the central berths at Wolves.
PREM.L.L
16-08-2006, 10:22
BUT he can play on the right though?
ProudWolf
16-08-2006, 10:25
BUT he can play on the right though?
He can play there but is no winger. I'd probably liken it to Gerrard playing there for Liverpool. If he does play on the right then we definately need a pacey out-an-out winger for the left side.
He can play there but is no winger. I'd probably liken it to Gerrard playing there for Liverpool. If he does play on the right then we definately need a pacey out-an-out winger for the left side.
paddingtonwolf
16-08-2006, 10:31
He can play there but is no winger. I'd probably liken it to Gerrard playing there for Liverpool.
So he is going to get 2 crackerjacks in the final and bring the FA cup to Wolverhampton?
I could live with that...
So he is going to get 2 crackerjacks in the final and bring the FA cup to Wolverhampton?
I could live with that...
goldeneyed
16-08-2006, 10:40
Young creative midfielder and Wolves mentioned in the same breath....I think I need to lie down.
Havn't seen him but if he can give us a semblance of control in midfield, pass accurately and make attacking runs....could be good. All in all I'm impressed with the kind of players MM is trying to get in and competition in the squad is gradually increasing. We still need that raiding winger and someone younger and faster in the centre of defence plus a pacy striker. People can mock if they like but I want this 'young and hungry' idea to stay around. It is the only way this club is going to move forward.
My only concern about Potter is that he might impede Mark Davies's development as they seem to be very similar players. But the more competition the better I guess.
Havn't seen him but if he can give us a semblance of control in midfield, pass accurately and make attacking runs....could be good. All in all I'm impressed with the kind of players MM is trying to get in and competition in the squad is gradually increasing. We still need that raiding winger and someone younger and faster in the centre of defence plus a pacy striker. People can mock if they like but I want this 'young and hungry' idea to stay around. It is the only way this club is going to move forward.
My only concern about Potter is that he might impede Mark Davies's development as they seem to be very similar players. But the more competition the better I guess.
Nashie
16-08-2006, 10:47
People can mock if they like but I want this 'young and hungry' idea to stay around.
I mock the way that this term is being thrown around again and again to put a positive spin on a lack of funds to buy quality players to mount a realistic promotion challenge.
At the end of the season, they'll be young, they may well have fight in them too (and therefore fulfill the 'hungry' criteria') - but will they have the quality? Thats the important question.
I applaud signing any decent young player and he sounds like he could be a useful player.
But can you please name me a balanced attacking midfield from the squad of players we have? At the moment its a patchwork midfield. Ricketts, Rosa, Olofinjana are all going to be tried out on the wing - but none of them should be playing there!
We have a wealth of players who can play in the middle of the pitch but our options on the left and right are very limited.
Gobern is our only out and out right winger. On the left - Clapham is too slow to go bursting down the left wing, Daniel Jones may be a better option.
I mock the way that this term is being thrown around again and again to put a positive spin on a lack of funds to buy quality players to mount a realistic promotion challenge.
At the end of the season, they'll be young, they may well have fight in them too (and therefore fulfill the 'hungry' criteria') - but will they have the quality? Thats the important question.
I applaud signing any decent young player and he sounds like he could be a useful player.
But can you please name me a balanced attacking midfield from the squad of players we have? At the moment its a patchwork midfield. Ricketts, Rosa, Olofinjana are all going to be tried out on the wing - but none of them should be playing there!
We have a wealth of players who can play in the middle of the pitch but our options on the left and right are very limited.
Gobern is our only out and out right winger. On the left - Clapham is too slow to go bursting down the left wing, Daniel Jones may be a better option.
Jamboon
16-08-2006, 10:56
Logged on to saintsforever asked for there opinion
got these comments
"good signing. we were hoping to get him on a permanent but GB didn't seem to want to. He improved with every game. Upset that he's going to another championship club hoping to make the play-offs."
"Very good. Took a little bit of time to settle but once he did he was very good!"
"I'd have liked up to get him back Jamboon. Good technique, good vision, good passing, good set-piece delivery. Works fairly hard too. Decent player.
"He was a decent player. I know that quite a few of our fans would have liked us to get him back for this season. He'll do well for you."
No negative comments at all as yet.
Promising
got these comments
"good signing. we were hoping to get him on a permanent but GB didn't seem to want to. He improved with every game. Upset that he's going to another championship club hoping to make the play-offs."
"Very good. Took a little bit of time to settle but once he did he was very good!"
"I'd have liked up to get him back Jamboon. Good technique, good vision, good passing, good set-piece delivery. Works fairly hard too. Decent player.
"He was a decent player. I know that quite a few of our fans would have liked us to get him back for this season. He'll do well for you."
No negative comments at all as yet.
Promising
goldeneyed
16-08-2006, 11:06
Nashie I agree to a large extent with what you say. But quality players (under 30) tend to cost way over a £1m these days and it seems we can only afford them when they are right at the end of their career (and we know that most of the time that doesn't work and even if it does is only a short term solution).
It will be some time before we can compete for the younger quality players we need. In the meantime I, perhaps naively, believe the club may have learnt some lessons from past errors and is concentrating on getting in younger players on the way up who hopefully have something to prove. That is the right decision.
But if someione like Whittingham was available at around £500k then it would be nice to know we could get him if the manager wanted to. Only 21 with plenty of league and U.21 experience etc. But there aren't many like that left within our price range these days. So frees/loans are going to be the main way we strengthen the squad for the moment whether we like it or not.
It will be some time before we can compete for the younger quality players we need. In the meantime I, perhaps naively, believe the club may have learnt some lessons from past errors and is concentrating on getting in younger players on the way up who hopefully have something to prove. That is the right decision.
But if someione like Whittingham was available at around £500k then it would be nice to know we could get him if the manager wanted to. Only 21 with plenty of league and U.21 experience etc. But there aren't many like that left within our price range these days. So frees/loans are going to be the main way we strengthen the squad for the moment whether we like it or not.
EddieClamp-tops
16-08-2006, 11:11
Liverpool schoolboys captain and played in Liverpool's 1st team. Sounds like top quality to me Nashie.
I guess this is one we can stop worrying about - let's concentrate on worrying about Leon's quality :)
I guess this is one we can stop worrying about - let's concentrate on worrying about Leon's quality :)
The Punisher
16-08-2006, 11:16
Sounds like this lad could be a good signing.
Why dont we try and tempt Liverpools young winger Anderson here on loan. I think they signed him from Hull last season. I'm quite sure Liverpool would let him come on loan for the season.
It will be interesting to see if McCarthy signs either or both Johnson and Senda. From what I have heard of them I would sign them both. Johnson has the potential to be a very good player at this level by all accounts.
I would still like to see us bring in a pacey centre back and we'll need to bring in a left sided player if Naylor leaves.
Why dont we try and tempt Liverpools young winger Anderson here on loan. I think they signed him from Hull last season. I'm quite sure Liverpool would let him come on loan for the season.
It will be interesting to see if McCarthy signs either or both Johnson and Senda. From what I have heard of them I would sign them both. Johnson has the potential to be a very good player at this level by all accounts.
I would still like to see us bring in a pacey centre back and we'll need to bring in a left sided player if Naylor leaves.
AndyP
16-08-2006, 11:26
Apparently Hearts were willing to pay £750,000 for this lad and make him their joint highest paid player on £10,000 a week! Looks like it might have fallen through because he broke a vertebra.
http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport.cfm?id=91572006
http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport.cfm?id=91572006
Nashie
16-08-2006, 11:44
It will be some time before we can compete for the younger quality players we need. In the meantime I, perhaps naively, believe the club may have learnt some lessons from past errors and is concentrating on getting in younger players on the way up who hopefully have something to prove. That is the right decision.
But if someione like Whittingham was available at around £500k then it would be nice to know we could get him if the manager wanted to. Only 21 with plenty of league and U.21 experience etc. But there aren't many like that left within our price range these days. So frees/loans are going to be the main way we strengthen the squad for the moment whether we like it or not.
The problem is there hasn't been a period of transition, it was a case of, throw all our old players a way and lets get some bodies in to make up the numbers very quickly.
Hopefully over the next couple of years we will see the club buying 18, 19, 20 year old exciting prospects from lower league sides for between 300 and 500k and developing a good attacking side. Right now Mick has a fight just to field a side of square pegs in square holes.
But to get back to the signing of Potter - this seems to be an ideal signing, a young player with promise from a Prem team on loan for a year. The comments have all been positive, well done Mick. Now can we have 2 pacey wingers please!
But if someione like Whittingham was available at around £500k then it would be nice to know we could get him if the manager wanted to. Only 21 with plenty of league and U.21 experience etc. But there aren't many like that left within our price range these days. So frees/loans are going to be the main way we strengthen the squad for the moment whether we like it or not.
The problem is there hasn't been a period of transition, it was a case of, throw all our old players a way and lets get some bodies in to make up the numbers very quickly.
Hopefully over the next couple of years we will see the club buying 18, 19, 20 year old exciting prospects from lower league sides for between 300 and 500k and developing a good attacking side. Right now Mick has a fight just to field a side of square pegs in square holes.
But to get back to the signing of Potter - this seems to be an ideal signing, a young player with promise from a Prem team on loan for a year. The comments have all been positive, well done Mick. Now can we have 2 pacey wingers please!
QB Wolf
16-08-2006, 12:10
I hate to be negative but hope he fairs better than our previous loan signings such as Huddlestone and Cole, feels like a mid-table signing to me!!
Bill McCai
16-08-2006, 12:13
On that sainsforever site, someone has just said he is like 'a New Gerrard'. That’s right,, we have 'The New Vieira AND The New Gerrard". Automatic promotion inevitable.
Markwolf
16-08-2006, 12:20
He sounds like a good signing, but as mentioned, we have no balance in the midfield at all.
wolf of sedgley
16-08-2006, 12:23
Well this Potter kid sounds like a good player. Hopefully this solves our attacking central midfield issue until Davies comes back. Still need a left winger urgently, and i'd like a central defender with some pace.
manc_wolf
16-08-2006, 12:39
I hate to be negative but hope he fairs better than our previous loan signings such as Huddlestone and Cole, feels like a mid-table signing to me!!
Maybe I am wrong, but I thought the general opinion on Huddlestone was pretty good - and he was missed after he'd gone??? i personally thought he added something to the team at the time
Agree on Cole though - still surprised he hasn't "found his level" after all this time :)
Maybe I am wrong, but I thought the general opinion on Huddlestone was pretty good - and he was missed after he'd gone??? i personally thought he added something to the team at the time
Agree on Cole though - still surprised he hasn't "found his level" after all this time :)
johnybig32
16-08-2006, 12:46
MM oviously sees Darren Potter bringing something extra to the midfield, or otherwise he wouldnt waste what little money he has at his disposal.
Potter obvious has some talent as he is with liverpool, and looking at the strength of the midfield there is no way he going to get in there at the moment...
More good news for us IMO!
Potter obvious has some talent as he is with liverpool, and looking at the strength of the midfield there is no way he going to get in there at the moment...
More good news for us IMO!
Essex Wolf
16-08-2006, 12:49
Sounds a decent signing, could soon have almost half a team of long term loan signings and if they do the business then good news.
Wulfhere
16-08-2006, 12:59
It is an area where we are short and need strengthening, lets hope he can do the business for us. As always he sounds promising but we will have to judge him on what he achieves at the club.
manc_wolf
16-08-2006, 13:03
Sounds a decent signing, could soon have almost half a team of long term loan signings and if they do the business then good news.
anyone know what the rules are for loan signings? I thought it was no more 2 loan signings at any one time - and 4 in 1 season????
It's been a while since i allowed myself to play "championship manager" or whatever its called now (due to D.I.V.O.R.C.E. etc) :D
anyone know what the rules are for loan signings? I thought it was no more 2 loan signings at any one time - and 4 in 1 season????
It's been a while since i allowed myself to play "championship manager" or whatever its called now (due to D.I.V.O.R.C.E. etc) :D
stuj4z
16-08-2006, 13:37
4 loan signings at any one time and 8 over the course of a season i think. someone mentioned the rules properly a few weeks ago but i always forget them.
looks like a good signing from what everyone is saying about him. i expect him to be on the bench at burnley on saturday.
also, i thought huddlestone did well when he was here as well, cole was a waste of space though
looks like a good signing from what everyone is saying about him. i expect him to be on the bench at burnley on saturday.
also, i thought huddlestone did well when he was here as well, cole was a waste of space though
johnybig32
16-08-2006, 13:45
I think Cole will have a good season this year. The guy was strong, quick, powerful, skillful, and did seem to have an abilty...Huddlestone to me is exactly the same...
Both of the players started well but lost there way pretty quickler...TH after the Derby goal.I do think Twoddle didnt use him effectively though...
Both of the players started well but lost there way pretty quickler...TH after the Derby goal.I do think Twoddle didnt use him effectively though...
stuj4z
16-08-2006, 13:47
.I do think Twoddle didnt use him effectively though...
thats a shocking statement to make :D
thats a shocking statement to make :D
Deutsch Wolf
16-08-2006, 13:48
Just my opinion, but Carlton Cole is dross. Lazy, arrogant, average player with less poise on the ball than Carl Cort and the workrate of Leon Clarke.
As for Potter - he's always looked good to me on the rare occasions I've seen him play for Liverpool. Good news if we can bring him in.
As for Potter - he's always looked good to me on the rare occasions I've seen him play for Liverpool. Good news if we can bring him in.
johnybig32
16-08-2006, 13:50
I thought we had brought him in??
Hes gotta have something about him if Rafa played him in Europe...?
Hes gotta have something about him if Rafa played him in Europe...?
Space Wolf
16-08-2006, 13:53
Alot of players are willing to go out on loan to get first team football etc but with Cole wasn't he sent to us for disciplinary problems at Chelsea?
I don't think he had much choice in the matter. He did score against Norwich.:o
I don't think he had much choice in the matter. He did score against Norwich.:o
Brizzlewolf
16-08-2006, 13:55
Sounds like he could be the final piece of the jigsaw....
manc_wolf
16-08-2006, 13:57
i remember watching crystal palace v liverpool in last seasons league cup on the box - and i seem to remember they were raving about darren potter - they did a "player profile" type thing on him before the match - and i remember then saying how difficult it was going to be for him with gerrard, hamman and sisoko et all ahead of him - but nevertheless, everyone had very high expectations of him within the club
lets hope we get the best of him this season :)
lets hope we get the best of him this season :)
sconner_b
16-08-2006, 14:42
a bit confused as to why we've made this signing tbh
not the area of the team which most needs looking at. i.e - the wings, or experienced defensive midfielder ala carsley, or a quick centre back
good to see we're bringing in another striker too though in johnson
not the area of the team which most needs looking at. i.e - the wings, or experienced defensive midfielder ala carsley, or a quick centre back
good to see we're bringing in another striker too though in johnson
RyanWolf
16-08-2006, 14:45
Darren Potter's a Champ Manager legend on 03/04!
Bend It Like Dennison
16-08-2006, 16:15
To be fair this is a very, very good signing. Well done Wolves.:)
You'll easily see this after 1 game, let alone 3, what a quality young central midfielder really is.
No pun intended.
You'll easily see this after 1 game, let alone 3, what a quality young central midfielder really is.
No pun intended.
-MTW-
16-08-2006, 16:39
Good reports from my red mates. Strong, good attitude and loads of potential.
AmericanWolf
16-08-2006, 16:51
I'm sure he's great, but I don't see why we're putting money into central midfield. We've already got:
Davies, Olofinjana, Rosa, Henry, O'Connor, Finkler, Cornes, etc. capable of playing there.
We need more bloody wing players.
Davies, Olofinjana, Rosa, Henry, O'Connor, Finkler, Cornes, etc. capable of playing there.
We need more bloody wing players.
-MTW-
16-08-2006, 16:54
I thought our midfield was dreadful against Preston and anything that strengthens it is a good move.
SaleWolf
16-08-2006, 16:59
and 10st 8.
Underweight then!!! Yet another lightweight midfielder :rolleyes:
Sounds ok, just hope he does the business.
Underweight then!!! Yet another lightweight midfielder :rolleyes:
Sounds ok, just hope he does the business.
Ashley
16-08-2006, 17:15
To be fair this is a very, very good signing. Well done Wolves.:)
You'll easily see this after 1 game, let alone 3, what a quality young central midfielder really is.
No pun intended.
have to agree with ya. replacement for O'conner and IMO fighting for a place against Seyi to partner Henry. Carsley deal looks like it ain't happening!
You'll easily see this after 1 game, let alone 3, what a quality young central midfielder really is.
No pun intended.
have to agree with ya. replacement for O'conner and IMO fighting for a place against Seyi to partner Henry. Carsley deal looks like it ain't happening!
G-Wulf
16-08-2006, 17:51
No negative comments at all as yet.
Could this be because they're not Wolves fans? :confused:
Could this be because they're not Wolves fans? :confused:
UNCLE REMUS
16-08-2006, 18:58
Work with a load of Liverpool fans, they say he's good and should "eat" our division.
I.D.
16-08-2006, 19:10
To be fair this is a very, very good signing. Well done Wolves.:)
You'll easily see this after 1 game, let alone 3, what a quality young central midfielder really is.
No pun intended.
This post illustrates a point I made on another thread, if you had stopped at the first line perhaps the less articulate on here wouldn't always be telling you to $$$$ off.
You'll easily see this after 1 game, let alone 3, what a quality young central midfielder really is.
No pun intended.
This post illustrates a point I made on another thread, if you had stopped at the first line perhaps the less articulate on here wouldn't always be telling you to $$$$ off.
holloholloway
16-08-2006, 19:20
carsley is on about 30k a week there is no way we could afford his wages.
Cosmo Kramer
16-08-2006, 20:17
To be fair this is a very, very good signing. Well done Wolves.:)
You'll easily see this after 1 game, let alone 3, what a quality young central midfielder really is.
No pun intended.
no pun spotted
You'll easily see this after 1 game, let alone 3, what a quality young central midfielder really is.
No pun intended.
no pun spotted
Rhoswolf
16-08-2006, 20:22
Sounds like an excellent signing - here's hoping, shame it's not that Gerrard character but I guess we'll just to have to make do!
GoldenHorseshoe
16-08-2006, 20:36
I'm sure he's great, but I don't see why we're putting money into central midfield. We've already got:
Davies, Olofinjana, Rosa, Henry, O'Connor, Finkler, Cornes, etc. capable of playing there.
We need more bloody wing players.
We can always play one of the above on the wing. (just call me GH):p
Davies, Olofinjana, Rosa, Henry, O'Connor, Finkler, Cornes, etc. capable of playing there.
We need more bloody wing players.
We can always play one of the above on the wing. (just call me GH):p
stever
16-08-2006, 21:13
Darren Potter's a Champ Manager legend on 03/04!
champ manager, the bible of today's football fan!
champ manager, the bible of today's football fan!
SBDJ
16-08-2006, 21:30
no pun spotted
Glad I'm not the only thickie who dodn't see the joke
Glad I'm not the only thickie who dodn't see the joke
Scott.Cooper
16-08-2006, 21:36
Read the post mentioned above on Saints Chat
The majority of fans really rate him, however a coule have said he's too lightweight.
Seems his passing ability is his real strength.
And why on that forum do they have a saints fan with the username "Big Steve Bull"?
The majority of fans really rate him, however a coule have said he's too lightweight.
Seems his passing ability is his real strength.
And why on that forum do they have a saints fan with the username "Big Steve Bull"?
Cosmo Kramer
16-08-2006, 22:10
he might be called stephen bull and be really really ... small
