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TheDarkside
15-08-2006, 22:34
Since when has Olofinjana become the magical saviour, able to carry a sub-standard squad single handledly?
I have counted about 15 references to "Olofinjana should start on Saturday" or "Olofinjana could be a brilliant player this year" on various threads on this board.
When did this magical transformation happen?
I have seen nearly all the games he has played in for Wolves, and I would go as far as to say that he is in the top three worst value for money signings we have ever made.
Could someone explain to me why he is going to turn things around when playing in a team which is an order of magnitude worse than any we have fielded in the last 10 years?
Just puzzled, that's all. :confused:
brummywolf
15-08-2006, 22:37
He looked OK against Preston, apparently scored a couple today and seems to be coming back to something that is near match-fit. I don't think anyone is kidding themselves that he is going to be a world beater but he certainly showed a bit of fight at times against Preston which is what we need at the moment.
It's Mixu Paatelainen
15-08-2006, 22:40
Because he's class like.
TheDarkside
15-08-2006, 22:43
He looked OK against Preston, apparently scored a couple today and seems to be coming back to something that is near match-fit. I don't think anyone is kidding themselves that he is going to be a world beater but he certainly showed a bit of fight at times against Preston which is what we need at the moment.
Are you sure he looked OK and showed some fight? He was just anonymous to me.
The_Blade
15-08-2006, 22:43
... waiting for Bill McCai's comments_
wolf of sedgley
15-08-2006, 22:52
Since when has Olofinjana become the magical saviour, able to carry a sub-standard squad single handledly?
He's isn't . It's just that he is a better option than O'Connor at this current time.
holloholloway
16-08-2006, 00:15
Her looked good in pre season too.
Olofinjana will at least have a go and try and create something in the middle of the park and with Davies out, he's possibly the only fit central midfield player currently at the club that can do this.
As some of us have been saying (the ones without any form of mental illness) the team will start to compete at this level when players like Olofinjana, Rosa, Mcnamara, Cort and Davies all return to full fitness.
The constant hysterical whining from certain posters is starting to remove whatever level headed sanity this place had, which I grant you, wasn't much, but that's another thread all together.
Meanwhile, what most people understand is that Olofinjana will make a positive difference to the current Wolves side. He hasn't shown consistancy in a Wolves shirt as of yet, although he has put in a handful of very good performances. Lets also not forget that he has been injured for the past 6-12 months.
I understand that people have pre-conceptions where he is concerned due to who bought him and for how much, with certain people using him as a scapegoat for the past 2 seasons failures.
The reality of the situation is Olofinjana is now one of Wolves better players. He has always had talent but injuries, a lack of confidence and probably the realisation that he has signed for a club run by $$$$ing idiots has halted his progress somewhat.
It's a clean slate now though and Wolves need him at his best.
I hope he can produce.
GoldenHorseshoe
16-08-2006, 01:36
When did this magical transformation happen?
:confused:
Shortly following Merlins appointment.
Markwolf
16-08-2006, 07:37
I think he has definate talent, but little confidence in it. He's to nice as well - Watch if he clatters someone. Instead of continuing play, he'll stop to help them up. Oppostion players should be terrified of him.
The Bear
16-08-2006, 07:45
It's called optimism Darkside. Something you know very little about.
paddingtonwolf
16-08-2006, 07:48
at least his user name is apt, considering doomwolf had already snapped up the best one for him.
PREM.L.L
16-08-2006, 07:53
If he could smack a few trackles in and send a few teeth flying i'd be happier. I've no probs with him going forward but it's the defensive side I worry about. That's why as it currently stands i'd like 3 in the middle with one holding/defensive type. Henry? with Rosa and Olo infront of him?
Black Suit
16-08-2006, 07:55
More like the 'first round of the World Cup' Viera. But we live in hope! :)
danhlibertine
16-08-2006, 08:03
This "new Viera" tag is another one of those myths that goes around on here. Dave Jones never said he was the "new Viera, nobody else did either. All that happened was Jones said in an interview that Patrick Viera was the prototype footballer because he has a huge physique but also has pace, and that he wanted to sign a holding player in this ilk.
When did this magical transformation happen?
It happened when we 'trimmed away all the deadwood!' - aka - got rid of a lot of good championship players which other clubs were happy to sign up - in favour of assembling a mixture of cast-offs and kids in a very short space of time. All of a sudden Olofinjana looks like a midfield dynamo in a squad filled with mediocrity.
dazmanwolf
16-08-2006, 08:19
Since when has Olofinjana become the magical saviour, able to carry a sub-standard squad single handledly?
I have counted about 15 references to "Olofinjana should start on Saturday" or "Olofinjana could be a brilliant player this year" on various threads on this board.
When did this magical transformation happen?
I have seen nearly all the games he has played in for Wolves, and I would go as far as to say that he is in the top three worst value for money signings we have ever made.
Could someone explain to me why he is going to turn things around when playing in a team which is an order of magnitude worse than any we have fielded in the last 10 years?
Just puzzled, that's all. :confused:
In case you forgot - every game he played for us up until recently - he was carrying a hairline fracture injury to his spine!
I am gonna give him a chance to prove himself to me before I jump on the doom and gloom train!
Its only been 3 games FFS! ;)
Bill McCai
16-08-2006, 08:31
... waiting for Bill McCai's comments_
We need him to produce this season so I hope he can get some kind of run of form going, regardless of the fact he has been a big let down since we shelled out close to £2m for him. He looked OK v Preston so maybe he can come in and take some responsibility?
As some of us have been saying (the ones without any form of mental illness) the team will start to compete at this level when players like Olofinjana, Rosa, Mcnamara, Cort and Davies all return to full fitness.
The constant hysterical whining from certain posters is starting to remove whatever level headed sanity this place had, which I grant you, wasn't much, but that's another thread all together.
Meanwhile, what most people understand is that Olofinjana will make a positive difference to the current Wolves side.
The reality of the situation is Olofinjana is now one of Wolves better players. He has always had talent
Ooh, hark at you! I look forward to you being proved right. How do you know how good Olifinjana is, though? He's still a bit of an unknown quantity to me (I'm in the minority apparantly).
after recovering from his back injury olo has looked a fitter, stronger player already in the brief time weve seen him so far this season. as with other players such as the likes of oconnor if some of the no brains that make stupid comments on here allow time some will develop into useful players at this level.
EasternWolf
16-08-2006, 08:51
Since when has Olofinjana become the magical saviour, able to carry a sub-standard squad single handledly?
I have counted about 15 references to "Olofinjana should start on Saturday" or "Olofinjana could be a brilliant player this year" on various threads on this board.
When did this magical transformation happen?
I have seen nearly all the games he has played in for Wolves, and I would go as far as to say that he is in the top three worst value for money signings we have ever made.
Could someone explain to me why he is going to turn things around when playing in a team which is an order of magnitude worse than any we have fielded in the last 10 years?
Just puzzled, that's all. :confused:
The answer is quite simple. You are wrong.
Last year he had a very painful injury. As I said on a previous thread i played three season's of football with a similar injury and had to retire at the end of it. You simply should not judge people out of context. How did you judge Matt Murray through about 4 seasons of injury? or Joleon Lescott when he was injured for a long period? Or Kenny Miller? Judge Seyi in the same way.
I think he will prove to be a very fluent midfielder for Wolves if he is injury free. Of course he will be unable to change a team that is playing that badly, but, there again, you are presuming now that they will play that badly and taking it as a given in your argument.
thekentwolf
16-08-2006, 09:49
How can a player suddenly become as utter rubbish Olofinjana. From what I have seen of him, his passing and tackling do need to be a lot better than at current,but I personally believe that he can be a great player for us. Many people who saw him play in Norway say he was awesome, and if he had not failed a medical at Monaco he would have joined a club which had just played in a European cup final.
From the evidence of watching him play for Wolves he is a miles away from been compared to Vieira although potentially he has it all. Why can't he perform for Wolves?
EasternWolf
16-08-2006, 10:00
How can a player suddenly become as utter rubbish Olofinjana. From what I have seen of him, his passing and tackling do need to be a lot better than at current,but I personally believe that he can be a great player for us. Many people who saw him play in Norway say he was awesome, and if he had not failed a medical at Monaco he would have joined a club which had just played in a European cup final.
From the evidence of watching him play for Wolves he is a miles away from been compared to Vieira although potentially he has it all. Why can't he perform for Wolves?
You ever had a hairline fracture and a nerve trapped in your back? There's your answer.
And for the Vieira reference read above
Bill McCai
16-08-2006, 10:04
Did he have a hairline fracture during 2003/04?
thekentwolf
16-08-2006, 10:07
Did he have a hairline fracture during 2003/04?
Exactly.
goldeneyed
16-08-2006, 10:21
Get off Seyi's back! Yes this is a make or break season for him. But he needs to build his confidence up and get match fit after a long injury lay off. Yes he has been disappointing to say the least. But he has been making the right sounds over recent weeks and I am convinced that he could play an important part this season and that he has the talent to make his mark at last. The supporters need to get behind him.
What he doesn't need is the 'boo boys' hounding him every time he makes a mistake. Let's judge him at season's end and give him and a new team a lttle bit of slack for a while as MM tries to find a winning combination.
The first half of the season is likely to be rough but I believe the second half will be much better with hopefully Seyi playing with freedom and confidence by then. How many more £1.7ms can this club afford to pour down the drain? Brace yourself for Franko leaving on a free......Jody £1.75m...are we insane?
thekentwolf
16-08-2006, 10:47
Get off Seyi's back!
No wonder he had a trapped nerve
johnybig32
16-08-2006, 11:02
From what i have seen, the new Vieira is Momo Sissoko at liverpool....Seyi is very similar to him in all honesty. Powerful runner, quite creative...Momo wasnt very strong when he first started but on Sunday he put both Ballack and Lampard in their place. Seyi looks a lot stronger to me this year...
TheDarkside
16-08-2006, 22:03
From what i have seen, the new Vieira is Momo Sissoko at liverpool....Seyi is very similar to him in all honesty. Powerful runner, quite creative...Momo wasnt very strong when he first started but on Sunday he put both Ballack and Lampard in their place. Seyi looks a lot stronger to me this year...
You are kidding, right? Seyi's overall performance since his signing is abysmal. He has been rotten rubbish - simply dismal, and you are implying that he would be able to Lampard and Ballack in their place?
And as for playing with injuries - that is not a very professional attitude, but if you are playing absolutely rubbish with injuries that just plain pathetic.
ashfordwolf
16-08-2006, 22:07
Big George will revel in the senior player role and will enjoy being a bigger fish in a much smaller pond this year. When fit he has the power and mobility to be a useful weapon and played well for the last half hour against Preston, but Vieria, Lampard, Ballack, Sissoko he ain't, by a million miles
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